TheContrarian

TheContrarian | Joined since 2016-04-28

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I buy when the majority are selling, I watch when the majority are buying, I sell when the majority are getting excited!

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2024-04-25 16:59 | Report Abuse

Posted by Sslee > 4 hours ago | Report Abuse

This coming quarter end 31/3/2024 very interesting to check what will be the disposal gain on 10 million inari and 100 million M&A share.

Insas has sold sufficient amount of Inari and M & A shares to report a nice lovely EPS.

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2024-04-25 16:53 | Report Abuse

Insas sells Inari merely to manipulate its quarterly results.

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2024-04-25 15:33 | Report Abuse

Eh, I have 121,100 shares at the moment.

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2024-04-25 10:20 | Report Abuse

Director sold RPS.

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2024-04-24 20:07 | Report Abuse

Affin AGM tomorrow at 10 am.

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2024-04-24 20:04 | Report Abuse

The Board of Insas comprised of puppets and Thong is the puppet master.

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2024-04-24 13:40 | Report Abuse

Increased people get to share Insas cash hoard.

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2024-04-24 12:53 | Report Abuse

More people exercising their warrants.

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2024-04-23 23:42 | Report Abuse

Exactly.

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2024-04-23 20:16 | Report Abuse

There's no tussle, buyer and seller is the same person.

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2024-04-23 12:51 | Report Abuse

It will cost Tong probably twice his cost in Star to build a 5% stake in Insas.

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2024-04-23 10:15 | Report Abuse

Needs to buy 35 million shares to become substantial shareholder.

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2024-04-23 01:29 | Report Abuse

And there's also a Chong.

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2024-04-22 22:59 | Report Abuse

Tong is boss of The Edge, Thong is boss of Insas.

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2024-04-22 21:53 | Report Abuse

@xiaoeh, Tong is not Thong.

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2024-04-22 19:05 | Report Abuse

It's sad to see the forum here gone totally cold. Made some money from Pensonic here back in September 2023.

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2024-04-22 13:37 | Report Abuse

Thong smart, he ensured Insas haram so EPF or KWAP can't buy Insas.

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2024-04-22 10:09 | Report Abuse

Mr Sslee is asking why funds buy Inari via private placement rather than making a hostile takeover of Insas.

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2024-04-22 09:25 | Report Abuse

Funds buy Inari for the regular quarterly dividends.

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2024-04-22 02:49 | Report Abuse

When will Leno return? Will Leno ever return?

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2024-04-22 02:48 | Report Abuse

Anyway most people don't understand what I am saying. If they could they would have sold all or partially when price broke through RM1.30. They keep dreaming of RM2 ..... RM3 ...... RM4 ...... RM5 ...... RM60!!!

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2024-04-22 02:48 | Report Abuse

And don't dream of a hostile takeover. Thong has made sure that's impossible.

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2024-04-22 02:48 | Report Abuse

Insas will never go to RM4.28 or RM3.57 or RM2.56 ........ even if Thong privatize Insas he will offer a very low price because Insas never traded above RM1.40 in the past 25 years.

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2024-04-22 01:39 | Report Abuse

Because speakup has small mind.

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2024-04-21 12:29 | Report Abuse

If speakup having sold at 1.20 and buys back at 1.00 he makes around 20% gain. Speakup buy back or not?

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2024-04-21 12:24 | Report Abuse

On the other hand if one were to have bought Insas at 1.10 and cut loss at 1.00 last Friday then he would have lost around 10%.

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2024-04-21 12:22 | Report Abuse

A couple of weeks ago when Insas was 1.10, if one were to sell them at 1.10 and last Friday bought back at 1.00 there would be around 10% gain, way better than FD interest rate.

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2024-04-21 11:51 | Report Abuse

Buying a dollar for a quarter is American lingo. The people here are followers of Benjamin Graham, Warren Buffett, George Soros, Joe Biden, Obama Barrack, Donald Trump etc.

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2024-04-21 11:46 | Report Abuse

As Israel-Iran tension eases, tomorrow ought to be bargain hunting day. Would that include Insas? How high would Insas go? Or would the floor break and we see trades done below RM1? Tomorrow will be an interesting day.

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2024-04-21 11:03 | Report Abuse

If not for the sharks Insas would be hovering around 80 to 90 sen. I wouldn't be able to make a four fold gain. Sharks have a purpose. Swim with the sharks but don't get eaten.

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2024-04-21 11:01 | Report Abuse

Thong merely watches from the sidelines, he has his own plan, the ultimate end game.

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2024-04-21 11:00 | Report Abuse

Always buy before the sharks pump, and sell before they dump.

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2024-04-21 10:59 | Report Abuse

Sharks objective is not to take over. It's pump and dump. Sometimes they pump to drizzling heights, sometimes they just pump up 30%.

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2024-04-21 10:55 | Report Abuse

On 10th April during a Raya function Abang Jo said Bank Negara approval within 2 weeks. The 2 weeks is coming to an end soon. Something that was apparently done and dusted back in December is taking a longer time than expected.

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2024-04-21 10:46 | Report Abuse

I only started investing in Insas eight years ago and it has been such a wonderful investment. Thrice I completely sold off Insas because one of my investment rule is never to fall in love with any of my investment. I can easily let go of what I love at the right time for the right price. This brings us to the question of right timing. The best time to sell has always been when everyone else gets so excited.

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2024-04-21 10:34 | Report Abuse

Insas has all the superb financial numbers (well, except dividend yield) and yet, yet it drifts down continuously for weeks, with no end in sight. I already gave a likely reason. But people here mostly don't understand what I am saying. They think they are buying a dollar for a quarter.

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2024-04-21 10:09 | Report Abuse

I don't expect people here to understand what I am saying. Benjamin Graham, Warren Buffett, George Soros and the like-minded wouldn't understand anyway. That's how some people can make a four fold gain on Insas while others, well others are still waiting for Insas to move from RM1 to RM5 for their four fold gain.

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2024-04-21 10:05 | Report Abuse

The articles gave the impression that Insas rally is the start of a fruitful journey that would take the share to drizzling heights, and that a person would be a fool to miss this golden opportunity.

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2024-04-21 09:58 | Report Abuse

Insas rally was a result of sharks switching out of Dr Yu's companies into Insas. This excited Tong and also Chong who wrote lengthy articles to justify the spike comparing wonderful deep, deep undervalued Insas to Dr Yu's speculative overvalued companies.

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2024-04-20 22:38 | Report Abuse

Posted by Sslee > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse

On Feb 2026 if Insas is below 90 sen then Thong and PAC can collect all WC not already owned by them at 0.5 sen and then convert all the WC to insas.

Assuming that this takes place, there will be instant dilution of the NTA of Insas. And the losers will be the minority shareholders.

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2024-04-20 22:32 | Report Abuse

Insas-WC will expire in 22 months. How will Insas shares be played out until then? What is Thong's game plan?

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2024-04-20 21:55 | Report Abuse

KUALA LUMPUR (July 9): Insas Bhd is planning to raise up to RM132.6 million from a renounceable rights issue of redeemable preference shares (rights RPS) with free detachable warrants to repay its bridging loans.

In a filing with Bursa Malaysia, the group said the rights issue involves up to 132.6 million new redeemable preference shares at an issue price of RM1 per rights RPS, together with 331.51 million new free detachable warrants on a basis of two rights RPS and five warrants for every 10 shares.

The tenure of the rights RPS is five years and it has a dividend rate of 3.8% per annum based on the issue price of the rights RPS.

When Insas issued the RPS it was done with so much warrants (5 : 2 ratio) attached. Obviously Thong benefited the most from this.

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2024-04-20 21:53 | Report Abuse

speakup, don't make us all laugh at you. Hahahahahahaha 🤣

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2024-04-20 21:33 | Report Abuse

I think this is Thong's last chance to increase his shareholding via the exercising the warrants route. It's going to be difficult to justice another round of RPS with free warrants again because Insas is hoarding so much cash and M&A Equity Holdings has already been listed.

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2024-04-20 21:27 | Report Abuse

Posted by Sslee > 19 minutes ago | Report Abuse

On Feb 2026 if Insas is below 90 sen then Thong and PAC can collect all WC not already owned by them at 0.5 sen and then convert all the WC to insas. What will be Thong and PAC holding % of Insas then?


Approximately 55.2% of the enlarged share capital.

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2024-04-20 20:26 | Report Abuse

Thong and PAC have 218 million shares and 112 million warrants. Do your own calculation. It's simple Maths.

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2024-04-20 20:23 | Report Abuse

Benjamin Graham, Warren Buffett, George Soros and whoever out there wouldn't understand what I am saying. Only Thong knows this.

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2024-04-20 20:16 | Report Abuse

I doubt that most people understand what I am saying here. This is one reason why Insas price always drift down back. There's absolutely no reason for Thong to push up share price of Insas. He can get them so cheap at 90 sen at any time he chooses.

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2024-04-20 20:13 | Report Abuse

Insas setting such a low warrant exercise price of 90 sen greatly benefited Thong.

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2024-04-20 20:10 | Report Abuse

MrSslee, I want you to take note of this. If Thong exercise all his warrants at 90 sen he will instantly increase his shareholding in the the enlarged capital of Insas to approximately 42.5%. He is obliged to make a MGO at 90 sen but even if no one accepts the offer, Thong still will end up with 42.5%.