sostupid sifu,

catch no ball what you said
please make you idea clear and short,
beh-ta-han reading lah.....
macam ada something , what is it ?don't know , tak tau, 不懂， புரிந்து கொள்ள முடியவில்லை.

sostupid,

very sorry to tell you that I will skip your comment from now
if not, then my kepala pusing, pusing,....
whole night can not sleep, thinking hard what you actually want to tell us
write in chinese lah ...
I know your Chinese very very good .
OTB also can understand Chinese.
don't believe?
you try.

sostupid sifu,

please lah...
I know you are a great sifu, like tai-ji-zhang-san-feng
so when you are very kind-hearted explain tai-ji in English
we kepala pusing lah...
please lah
write in chinese
don't believe?
you see you talk so much about OTB, but OTB never answer you
why ????
kepala pusing lah......
how to answer?

sostupid,

you really can make us see stars ,pusing,pusing....
I know you know Chinese, i feel you can express yourself better in Chinese
you may have some good points to share with us
honestly speaking I really can not understand your English lah...
I believe many readers also see stars with your English
don't believe?
ask sifu tksw....
so, please lah... write in chinese,
we do not want to miss your extraordinary points of views
thank you

Posted by calvintaneng > Dec 13, 2016 03:35 PM | Report Abuse

tksw,
gadang got job no job another matter. sale of capital city 21 still not finished. so money will leak out from pockets full of holes.
A sure buy and hold is Drb as ECommerce going full time when Jackma comes on March 2017.



calvin,

do you know what you are talking ?
if sale of of capital city already finished and gadang has got the money , then the price should be 9.0 not 0.9

sostupid,

why so much eggs and chickens?
so difficult to understand .
you better write in Chinese
if not , before we got your eggs and chickens
our blood already boiled

Posted by stockmanmy > Dec 13, 2016 01:51 PM | Report Abuse

bintang.....both KYY and I have written extensively on Gadang. Either you believe or you don't.

I bought a little bit with play play money at 91.5 sen on determination of ESOS pricing. For one reason or another, shares generally do well for 1 or 2 weeks after after determination of such pricing because this is the marketing period.....after that it is previous trend resumes.



stockmanmy,

it is not how many articles you and KYY had written that matter. it is the content, whether it is accurate ,comprehensive, fair and unbiased the matter more . I also can write a few hundred articles here if you want to read?

do you aware you are not dealing with its value, you are focusing more on price movement that is determined more by market sentiment than its value . this more a gambling than investing based on your logic.

Posted by stockmanmy > Dec 13, 2016 12:57 PM | Report Abuse

Gadang is hopeless case once its last quarter results are announced




stockmanmy,

why hopeless?
just because of you boss KYY had sold all his shares?

you may be an accountant in a small firm busy looking for some side income from KYY . you are definitely not a financial practitioner working in a big corporate suggesting to the bod way and means to improve profit margin.

Posted by stockraider > Dec 13, 2016 12:12 PM | Report Abuse

For Gadang....u must listen KYY loh.....!!
He has been into construction for so many many years....he is an expert & he knows all the nitty gritty of Construction loh....!!
It is to the reader favor to listen to KYY mah....!!



based on the common sense I absolutely agree with you
but do not forget KYY is out of the industry for a long time , I guess he was forced out because he can't tell NAJIB what to do like he was trying to tell KOK ONN how to cook the quarter profit.
he can sell all his gadang shares to punish KOK ONN
but he can't sell his Malaysian citizenship to punish NAJIB

KC,

what if I say FA is simple valuation + common business sense
nothing much to learn , what more pay money to learn, the relevant information is easily available here and plenty of good analysis reports and great ideas and views shared by some value traders , generous bloggers and analysts of IB .

isn't the mentioned statement sound too general to a sifu like you and many readers here?
isn't it very irresponsible on my part to tell you and everybody here I do not owe you and any reader here any explanation ?

Posted by kcchongnz > Dec 13, 2016 11:55 AM | Report Abuse

Posted by bintang21 > Dec 13, 2016 11:46 AM | Report Abuse

So, what's wrong with GADANG's cashflow and earning ?
can you please kindly enlighten us ?
What make you feel so sure it can not and definitely can not replenish its order book in the near future?
what had made you feel so sure its 2018 result can not and definitely can not be better than the 2017?
Why Gadang is such a hopeless company to you are the freebie but meet all the requirements of the magic formula which is your most powerful winning formula ?


I never say there is anything wrong with all the above, except just a cautionary statement about its recent cash flows. I have say none of the above.

You have this confirmation bias that you will never want to listen to opposite opinion, which I don't wish to give you any opinion. There is no point.


KC,

is this the way you answer when you can not explain ?
who is confirmation biased ?
you or me ?
let the readers here be the judge .

KC,
you are very contradicting in your teaching when you talking about GADANG
you always emphasize NOT look at one quarter result only ,go for annual and keep for long term 3 years 5 years , 10 year or forever as long as the price is still below its intrinsic value and earning sustainability still visible for the near future

I would like to share with you some data extracted from bursa market place

FREE CASH FLOW :
2012: RM41.62M
2013: RM110.89M
2014: -RM47.52M
2015: RM64.67M
2016: -RM1.14M

NET PROFIT
2012: 14.45M
2013: 20.47M
2014: 43.22M
2015: 59.84M
2016: 94.77M




So, what's wrong with GADANG's cashflow and earning ?
can you please kindly enlighten us ?
What make you feel so sure it can not and definitely can not replenish its order book in the near future?
what had made you feel so sure its 2018 result can not and definitely can not be better than the 2017?
Why Gadang is such a hopeless company to you are the freebie but meet all the requirements of the magic formula which is your most powerful winning formula ?

Whey whey,

What apini said are general fact. Common sense.
Why so agitated?

I agree with apini that your mother really has to teach you some good manner

You need not have to explain if you do not wish to because you indeed did not owe us anything. Other than this answer I do not think what else can you rationalise your negligence

If you really have no intention to discredit Gadang, then you should have limited your discussion on the the price played up and down by the old man KYY . Not on the fundamental aspects that you did not well prepared. Right?

KC,
This are the fact and data I hope to get from you but provided by sosfinance instead. A wise man like you can sometimes behave foolish. Do not take the readers here for granted , there are not all novice. Do your homework well before you start your comments on Gadang. Please learn

Very sad...
A well accepted and respected sifu can behave such low class

So it is the you answer when you can not explain your nonsensical view?

You talked about Gadang deceiving growth. What and where is your fact and data. Are you going to ask me to read the article again? Or are you going to tell me you do not owing me and readers here any explanation

KC,
You gave a general statement of negative cash flow of gadang for some of the years, did you explain where the cash was spent. Did the company debt keep increasing . Did you provide any fact and data the company is burning cash? Did you provide such fact and data ? NO !
Unbiased? Fair to those who had invested based on the FA may be learnt from you?
Hope this does not sound offensive to you .
Thanks

KC,
now you are back on the right path.knowledge sharing ,fair and unbiased
forgive me to express my view frankly, the article title " another lesson from Gadang" I feel itis biased and unfair. not a comprehensive analysis of your usual style. you talked about gadang deceiving growth but you did not offer any good explanation.
I dare not ask because I know you may answer "can't you read from the article" or "I do not owe you any explanation".
you are a well accepted and respected sifu ,if you are willing to share your knowledge and your view, then I believe you will not feel annoyed to explain if requested

tksw,

you are right . KOK ONN had said in the agm that Gadang growth is sustainable , 2017 will not worst than 2016, he will not make a fool of himself, he is tan sri, not KYY, he can't afford it. KYY is old and can not think well .

Victor Tan,
well said, we don't want people , including the well respected sifu KC,creating fear with their biased and half true statement or article about Gadang . only those who are lazy to do homework will believe everything they said without doubt

Bro,

today i have a hope, I hope there is a kind man to help me push up the price just a bit , half a sen is good enough, so that we can have a nice profitable weekend.

look at the all the comment here, no one dare to question the growth of this company

so it got all the potential to fly

why no fly?

wait for to sell ma.....

you sold already then it will fly loh.....

we have great skill but we can win big, why?

no patience

bro

have you forgotten I am Confucious's follower?

I do not bother how much the price moves each day

why?

I had bought enough and I am not going to sell today or tomorrow


why so confident?

my homework says frontkn worth more than 40 sen

what to do?

wait

what to do if the market crashes?

do not do anything

why?

market can crash but a good company won't crash.

why not you follow other to run first and come back later at the lower price

good idea but I do not have the skill and luck, moreover my cost is cheap

how about your profit margin?

I will find money to top up if it is still worthwhile and wait again

why so much waiting?

which thing do not need to wait

tanam durian you got to wait

tanam pisang also got to wait.

durian wait longer so more profit



I am just talking for fun, do not take it seriously, I have no intention to cause any dislike

after the rough sea is smooth sail

good, very good to both of you , I like

after so many rounds of buys and sells with big volume, the demand is till there. you can see with your own eye
the big kaki had collected quite a lot, do you think they are happy with this price.
just follow their pattern of trading,
do not sell less than 30sen, not worthwhile, can get higher

my good friends

please stay calm

believe the reason you buy frontkn

believe your own decision is right

believe my brother tp is achievable

believe you loyal bintang is still holding tight

I am with you till 38

good morning brother and all my good friends here,

alphar trader,

I wish to remind you, though here is the public forum, you have the right to write whatever you like but do not forget at the same time it also reflects what sort of mentality you are

if you have already sold , need not have to publicize here if you confident with what you do. so I have the reason to doubt your intention

to all other traders
same advice, you have the right to say but need not have to behave so child-like

most of us are small retailers, here to gain some extra income for better living, do we need to behave like Rohingya refugees , killing or cursing each other for survival

my TP is 4.00, still a long way to go, dividend is more realistic, 5 sen is good goood enough

matrix,

148 sound good, I also want to collect a little, hoping it will declare some dividend to spend

Optimuse

your IQ is higher than KCChong, Kiasutrader , Cole-eye,.....

people should praise you

what a pity

you should gain a lot of applaouse

I think one day , you will

you deserved it

please believe, I am not say to please you

before I have high IQ, but less EQ, nobody like me,

now I change , raise my EQ

I think ,later. more and more people like me

deoptimus,

now a day , high IQ less welcome, high EQ gains more

you have done a good job here, sharing your valuable view, so that, we less known won't lose direction.

you know so many a time, after we have sold, the price shoot up sky high

that's why I always listen more all the sifu talk here and learn from them, including you. Gain more because at the receiving end

that why you said stupid people gain more

I am very grateful to have a stupid look

not easy to see how wise a person is

we only see ourselves very smart

why?

wise man look stupid

a burger seller can also be very successful, with your wisdom , I believe one day you can buy over burger king and have your own brand.
but you must believe you CAN

I am very lucky, I follow one sifu, he thought me " know enough" , it look simple but difficult to absorb, I am still learning to be a better self.

brother,

I have rubber plantation also

So i can call myself farmer, oil palm worker or rubber tapper, all these jobs are my occupation, my source of income

we can make funs here , we can talk gila-gila here, but we respect and love each other, because my sifu said, love and friendship is more valuable than gold

bro tkp1 and all my good friends here

good morning

everyday I go to my durian plantation, my durian trees don't seem to bear fruits, I ask my workers just carry on with THE routine maintenance, because I know if I can't wait when OR how can I see the fruits at the tree. I know and very confident my durian will fetch good price because they are XO musang king.

similarly to my oi palm, everyday the trees still look the same not much grow, but I know not far later, I can go round the world with my girl friend, while many still shouting hard here

so can wait and patience is the key words, if not why should I plant durian and oil palm, I might as well plant emas

In share market , it is always better to do nothing than to think too much

you think this , you think that, at the end you do nothing right

that why my brother tkp1 is very smart, he knows, it is always the stupid people win more because they just follow the trusworthy advice to do and do nothing else

if you look further into its performance, and the type of services it provides to the industries, then you will know why we are that least worry about this counter
if we know a company is worthwhile to invest then we must be brave to bet on what we know and believe what it would be and have the patience to wait for it to happen

after so many rounds of people buying and selling, the price still remain at the top, you tell me how far can we be wrong

market never move in a straight line, it is trading cheap today does not mean tomorrow you can not sell at a higher price. most important you do not lose your own direction. you can't make it this quarter, who dare to say you can't make it next quarter, or next next quarter as the along as the price does not drop like no tomorrow and the the green arrow for TTM is still there and we see more and more. why should we worry our profit can vanish all in a sudden. if it does happen, let it be, it is our nasib, we can't escape . no one can escape, so we accept it willingly