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General

2014-04-02 23:25 | Report Abuse

btw, tewnama you bought many OCK stock, unclez said oldman keep knocking the door and I thought about you :-)

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2014-04-02 23:24 | Report Abuse

sorry pakcik. Minta maaf. Slap Slap my face :-)
Tak tahu Tewnama handsome juga, semua puan puan pun mari loh.

Christine, your beautiful picture has stirred up the pakcik bangun tenga malam. Is that really you :-) ?

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2014-04-02 23:15 | Report Abuse

Asam, takaful I may want to top up as well. UncleT has reiterate his call many times besides coastal. Believe or not, he has recommended tropicanal. I know, I know it is one of the worst stock but he notice unusual fund collecting the stock. So I bought some to play/play to see how bad can that be. The landbank is massive btw, second to UEM sunrise.


Christine, I have been cheated before. The women I dated before turned out to be a man. Haha, just kidding lah. We are very young handsome here and don't dare to show the photo or else our thread will fill with unwanted disturbance. For some their wife will slap them when they found out they are chit-chat with beautiful women. We have some student here and one respectable oldman here call tewnama here. Occasionally some annoying ghost visiting here too. Just pretend not seeing them when we are SiWanDai. Asam is our leader here. Unclez never appear but watching us. The rest, I don't want to list their disgusting name

Let's join here more and talk about stock as I know you are very sharp as well ( in a good way).

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2014-04-02 22:53 | Report Abuse

Welcome Christine, we have just talked about no women in this thread and here you come. Provided you are not one of those fake one in facebook try to cheat poor oldman, we sincrely welcome you here. Of course I have to ask my fellow forumers to change their disgusting name.

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2014-04-02 22:50 | Report Abuse

asam, don't forget to call here when UMA come for CMSB. I am waiting.

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2014-04-02 22:32 | Report Abuse

anti20,
Not sure whether is this one that you are talking about

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/anpth/977575.jsp

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2014-04-02 22:30 | Report Abuse

asam, have you bought cmsb at the end? rise like no tomorrow woh.

inari - fly fly to 3.2 soon. I just can't keep up the comment. so just stay aside and enjoy the ride.

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2014-04-02 22:25 | Report Abuse

rlch welcome back.

Yes but not as good as before compare to last year. If you read my post earlier, EPS will be increased significantly end of this year once they cut cost by 35% and not spending as much to acquire land, building and equipment.

At least still cheaper than MYEG.

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2014-04-02 22:17 | Report Abuse

We need some woman in this thread, all the kuku and gogochiao here really not fun :P

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2014-04-02 22:16 | Report Abuse

yes, don't speculate too much. Some will take you to Holland and the other type will take your to cloud 9. Let them fight with each other and we enjoy the business class lounge here speculating who is unclez, kakaka.

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2014-04-02 21:59 | Report Abuse

relax, relax, yesterday was April fool. Many people including bursa just make fun on you.

General

2014-04-02 21:53 | Report Abuse

Kukuman, whether he is the one or not, please x3, don't put the name up, ok? He may need be remain anonymous to share his view for some obviously reason.

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2014-04-02 21:24 | Report Abuse

Lim, when you feel most boring and thinking of switching everyday and watching all other counters is rising, the next day you sell, it will rise like no tomorrow.
Then you will buy back and said I sold it too early
Familiar with this kind of story?

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2014-04-02 21:13 | Report Abuse

There is initial cost that cut the profit and when it is turned around, you will be too late to buy. There will be a one off frenzy buying of lots of stuff from super mall before gst kicks in and that will give a one of windfall. You can study from recent japan interest hike. Also gold will be bought massively before that.

Forget about TP. More importantly is the price after split and bonus.

General

2014-04-02 21:02 | Report Abuse

no worries matrix. Just make sure you execute what you plan and don't jump ship often. See how good it is if you can wait patiently for MATRIX to go up above rm4. OCK definitely a better choice for one year. Insas can only be played short term and highly depends on inari's performance.

For chart, inari may turn towards 3.1-3.2, this will create a buying frenzy of insas.

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2014-04-02 20:50 | Report Abuse

joke of the year :-), optimus, I salute your humour and imagination.

I predict you will become version 8 soon after dying for 6 times. wakaka

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2014-04-02 19:00 | Report Abuse

Siva free float is roughly 57%. Majority hold by individual share holders and fund hold about 16.5%

http://prestariang.listedcompany.com/shareholdings.html

After bonus, free float may increase only if they sell the extra issues.

Dsonic free float is still lower after bonus.

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2014-04-02 18:45 | Report Abuse

Steven, yesterday, I already give some hint when we play speculation game, haha.

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2014-04-02 18:42 | Report Abuse

btw, on the serious note, Inari and insas will fly tomorrow.

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2014-04-02 18:41 | Report Abuse

chartist said it may retrace to 3.92 woh. I hope it's true and I can get more bargain. Not sure he work for the short sellers haha.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2014/04/02/Datasonic-snaps-winning-streak-after-second-Bursa-Securities-caution/

Kukuman, His team is working on the numbers. Ok, I promise that I will chase him tonight but there is a problem, I can't find his number. I know him very well and I treated him as my best friend. The problem is he don't know me, kikiki. Sorry Kukuman, as you always sarcastic in your reply, I treat you the same, hope you don't mind.

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2014-04-02 18:00 | Report Abuse

Siva it's a kind of company that you can't look at PE. just 497.47 in klse screener or 382.9 as reported in i3 :-).
It is a kind of company that turn around from loss to profit in the future. You are buying it at a low price.

Let unclez write about it.

matrix6050, don't call be sifu lah, only unclez is sifu. I am a young man that you can call brother hahaha

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2014-04-02 17:44 | Report Abuse

moneysucker1, if you don't like roller coaster and steady counter that give you good night sleep and earning in two months time - look at AEON co. No body is talking about it atm.
It give bonus then split.
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1577961

just buy 250 shares minimum forget about it and wait until July.

I like to go against the crowd. When I started to look at takaful few years back and recently MKH and coastal hardly anyone talking about it.

Anyway, stay invested and don't spread too much. All unclez stock like OCK and Presbhd also good.

B/S at your own risk

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2014-04-02 17:19 | Report Abuse

moneysucker1 really read my mind.

Now dsonic is like a pressure cooker. A lot of people are eager to buy but has been restricted by this warning from bursa.

I can guarantee if there is any contract announcement to give us a reason whether it is 1m or 100m, Pressure cooker will burst and it will shoot through the roof.

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2014-04-02 17:16 | Report Abuse

btw, anyone got bargain this morning for dsonic?

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2014-04-02 17:13 | Report Abuse

Yeah. Presbhd, press hard

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2014-04-02 16:49 | Report Abuse

Yesterday I mentioned that it bottom at 2.61, now base on chart reading it will head above 3 and possibly reach 3.2. Once that is broken ---imagine!!!

B/S at your own risk.

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2014-04-02 16:17 | Report Abuse

Good morning. Just wrote my longest message in dsonic forum :-)
I had a really good night sleep and missed the roller coaster this morning.
Someone noted my message about Scable and push it above 1.55 ;-)

Hope you remember what I said yesterday at 4:12pm

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2014-04-02 16:11 | Report Abuse

To be a successful stock picker one must be able to look beyond PE ratio. Peg ratio is more important as well as free cash flow in a company.

Pe ratio is useful to filter out certain kind of stock. If you apply it to technology related stock that is light on asset, you'll probably miss out most of the best stocks in the world including Google.

When you see a high Pe stock keep rising, there are few reasons that market is pricing for. Of course this including driving force from speculators.


1. Forecast of revenue improvements.

So far significant of revenue comes from printing MyKad and passport. This is a threat as the company rely too much of this. However we can feel safe as it is contract based and cannot easily change hands. This can also be turned into opportunity if Dsonic can win more overseas contract. This is a business that never die as long as population is growing and more foreign migrants choose to stay in Malaysia.

The mandatory to change credit card to use one time pin in 2016 will also be a great catalyst.

The company is also diversifying to other business area such as cctv. I am not going to list out all other business they have. Please visit their website.

2. Cost reduction.
When you are in a business, you'll need to deal with cost issues such as operating costs, improve equipment, cost of subcontracting, cost of material. If one can find a magic ingredient to tackle this, net profit will rise significantly.

Datasonic has used significant amount of revenue last year to build assembly plant to reduce the cost of manufacturing the card by as much as 35% end of the year.
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/highlights/266134-interview-datasonic-embarks-on-expansion-trail.html

When they no longer need to spend the same money this and last year and couple with reduction of 35% cost,
Eps will be improved significantly.

When this happens, Rhb will update their target and everyone will take it by surprise.


Most people including bursa don't understand why Dsonic is so strong and a lot of people still skeptical about the rise, including some respectable columnist. Others just follow the crowd to buy when price rise, play contra to earn few cents and throw in panic when there is slight warning.

I hope you will stay invested wisely and spend more time to read the financial statement and other report and news to stay informed. Without this knowledge, you can easily throw away a golden goose in panic like this morning. I am not going to repeat how much we earn by holding on to the shares here as you should have read it many times.

I don't really care what the price movement daily as I know what it can achieve in few years down the line.

Good luck to those who choose to invest in low Pe stock that is undervalued but no one dare to touch. Mark down your price and let's compare again in a year time. Dsonic has proved you wrong last year. I have no doubt that it will do it again.


Apologies for long message. Feel free if you want to put this in a blog if you don't mind my broken English

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2014-04-02 01:40 | Report Abuse

fortune, last time it happened to iris in 2006, it rised 17 times in eight months. Another one is Harvest that received two UMA, Union paper that manufacture toiet paper sky rocketed 1,229% in 3 months.

For Dsonic, it rise a roughly 7-8 times in last eight months that is backed by few hundred percent improvement of profit in comparison to 2012

Iris was designated after a month after initial warning. This is just early warning and the rise of Dsonic has been backed by excellent results in comparison to the other that were manipulated and fined in court.

At the moment the PE 39 is still below MYEG 42 and I don't see any problem yet but of course need to be cautious when it run wild in the next few weeks if it rise without any backing of more contract announcement. Hopefully this will stop contra player and we can be enjoying the rise smooth and slowly.

General

2014-04-02 00:20 | Report Abuse

Now, this is what I call useful speculating.
It's speculating, don't take it too seriously. Don't tembak randomly :-). Fundamental is still key.

Ock may be end of wave 3 and in wave 4, if you understand what I mean. But chart reading can be wrong depends on market sentiment. So?

Take care. Now I guarantee you can't sleep well with too much speculating :-)

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2014-04-01 23:39 | Report Abuse

Guys, let me give you some hint. If Dsonic is cooled down tomorrow or for a few days, where will people or big fund turned into?

$$$

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2014-04-01 23:13 | Report Abuse

That's why you still need to learn in the stock market. You always speculate the wrong stock. Now you speculate the wrong person. UncleZ will one day log in here and tell you the truth. Hopefully he will not slap me in the face. hahax. Sorry uncleZ - These guys a bit qi sin now at late night.

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2014-04-01 22:44 | Report Abuse

If tomorrow announce iris win contract then sell like no tomorrow.
It's just a bursa warning, cehhhh. Treat it like nyamuk, Slap it.

:-). It's feels more like IRIS or tan wee reporting to bursa.

Close your screen tomorrow and come back next week.

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2014-04-01 22:35 | Report Abuse

GogoChiao, you shouldn't buy it in the first place.

Ok, how can I help you. It's unlikely that you will able to sell at a good price if it falls tomorrow. Since it is a small amount, I will leave it. We are not talking about market crash and anything related to company that has changed here. Just a bloody Bursa kacau. Even losing of the plane, MAS only drop little next day. Even a war was announced twice, DSONIC hardly moved. If tomorrow people sell in panic, it will be short lived. That's why I will buy on dip.

After few weeks, renewal of contract will be announced and dsonic mother will rise. People will forget about this again,
Don't forget the bonus shares.

If you still believe this can happen, then the CA will be worth more than tomorrow's price.

Good luck and be an investor. Hope everyone can learn some lesson from this to face the bigger challenge in the future.

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2014-04-01 22:19 | Report Abuse

Yes fundamentally it is sound and warning doesn't change a thing. Be focused and calm.

Buy on dip if there is any. Only those that bought CA need to be cautious as it is way over priced.

When it is traded way above MYEG PE, only I will start worrying.

Bursa cannot issued UMA as the price increase percentage is not reached. Bursa warning is justified as we don't want a good counter turn into a bubble and I think to be fair it should be more towards CA. Let it rise steadily and not overheat

Dsonic has won new project recently and it is expected that they will win the MyKad project.

As I have mentioned time and time again, if you play contra, you will get burnt or punished. For those long term investor, stay calm and we will be back to business again just like after UMA.

B/S at your own risk. I am not selling a single share and will get ready to top up more if you want to sell.

General

2014-04-01 21:49 | Report Abuse

Opportunity!!! Woho - now for those itchy to buy but missed the boat, this come at the right time. The warning has not changed any of the fundamentals, why fear? Only those play contra will fear. The contract is in the bag and more project won recently. The passport contract will run for 5 years. UncleT said no need to worry. Bursa always kacau rising counter.

Just like UMA, it didn't change the fundamentals at all, it came back second day and become stronger.

My bullet is ready. If you see basher coming in, then you see they have confidence and also those weak holder will be shaken out.

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2014-04-01 18:51 | Report Abuse

Lim, not all eggs in one basket.

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2014-04-01 18:38 | Report Abuse

Let's say you have rm5. You can buy one dsonic or 4 ock.
if I tell you that Ock can goto 1.45 ++ and you buy again 1.12-1.15? Which one is better?

I really don't know lah, it's up to you. I always hold tight and don't trade every day even though I know there is correction.

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2014-04-01 17:46 | Report Abuse

So far four stocks that recommended by unclez has been up except Scable.

Many people asked the same question, why scable is not rising like the other. One need to realise that even Warren Buffet can also pick the wrong stock or the stock need sometime before it turn bullish. UncleZ has 80% success rate and don't expect him to be 100% right all the time. Even if he suggest an affordable stock, we need to examine and do our due diligence before we jump in.

First of all Scable is a down trend stock since August 2013 and at the moment it is trading at side way. The highest of scable 2.28. I would suggest to only start collecting when there is a bullish cross over 1.55 resistant with high volume. Otherwise it will stay there for ages and you will pay for opportunity cost. There is some catalyst down the line and the contract it won will start contributing FY14 onwards.

If you can wait for one year, then it is definitely a good stock. I am afraid most of us here has been spoiled by rising price of dsonic, ock and presbhd daily and weekly and other fundamental stock is gathering dust. At the moment, I view pestech better than scable.

Just my two cents.

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2014-04-01 16:50 | Report Abuse

If what Joel said is true, then there can only be two possibilities,
1.The target is a TA target,
2. Dsonic win the contract
Actually one more possibility, Joel or his remisier or who ever gave him the information is a liar or heavily invested on CA :-)

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2014-04-01 16:27 | Report Abuse

zoomboom, your imagination is as good as Chrollo. Young man always dreaming. Don't be silly, I am just a follower of unclez. Kukuman will come out to scold me saying I am imitating him :-)
Kikiki,kekeke.

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2014-04-01 16:12 | Report Abuse

asam, very true, it feels like we become the second generations of the dsonic. It's good to earn from the rise of stock. It's even better to earn something together with others that can share your joy. No need to thank here and there. We have experienced many up and downs. Without encouragement from one and another, we can lose focus.

There will be a day when stock will be down and I hope all those who thank here will not turn to cursing. I can see how OTB suffer from this. When he recommended some stock and up, everyone treat him like sifu/God. When stock is down, all those zombie is chasing him especially optimus and curse on him. That's why it's good for unclez remain anonymous. Everyone is so happy now but the market will crash one day and few out of those millions that follow his advice will turn to him.

Sorry, I don't mean to spoil your mood but I have to remind you all to stay vigilant and prepare for the worse and don't trust anyone that put a high tp here and there.

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2014-04-01 15:32 | Report Abuse

Inari hit 2.61 support and may bounce back from here, keep an eye. Just my two cents. I may be wrong .

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2014-04-01 15:19 | Report Abuse

Different story. Look at Eps of Aeon. I knew about Hupseng but not comfortable with high Pe food stock.

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2014-04-01 15:15 | Report Abuse

Hold tight!!

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2014-04-01 03:45 | Report Abuse

http://unclezmalaysia.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/rewinding-old-records.html?m=1
Good morning everyone. Enjoy the day.
unclez :" Stay focus, invest for long term. "

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2014-03-31 23:24 | Report Abuse

kkpan13113, no sifu here-> presbhd by a mile. If you want to choose, choose between presbhd and karex.

Siva, OCK don't buy above what it worth. The price we bought is safe. Don't expect too much without any more profit earning. Mid term 1.5. Otherwise it is pure goreng and be careful that shark may play this as well.

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2014-03-31 22:24 | Report Abuse

Lim,
Put aside some money. Think of the crash is the biggest sales ever. You should be happy and you will make a fortune from the crash but need patience. Gradually move away from penny stock.

Study all the good counters now and make sure you pick good fundamental stocks that give out dividend. Those that is supported by EPF will weather the storm better although price does not fly as fast as the other.



http://business.financialpost.com/2014/02/10/the-best-way-to-buy-stocks-if-you-fear-a-market-crash-and-why-you-have-never-heard-of-it/