hi

yes ... REAL PAIN. REAL cut-loss is needed if one is to be in market. REAL money ... I advised the newbies to take REAL trades. Use small portion, buy small lots ... get cuts, bruised and if it still didnt cause the pain, buy larger portions. PAIN is needed to be called 'experience'.

Yes, 3-weeks is ridiculous. It did not reflect anything much. In fact I m going to ask them to PUNT into hot-stocks, pray ... and those lucky ones, good. Those not, too bad.

These kids will NOT appreciate trading. It is not real and they want to win the prizes rather than learning. But, it will be good if we could see few logical ones. They could be trained to have RIGHT mindset, from younger age.

TEH

morning ... JCY at 0.81 today. Again, I don't know how to console those ignorants punting into her WITHOUT knowledge. I was blamed to post that JCY is being manipulated, as if JCY is their best bet in whole investment lives.

Anyway, JCY will still be pushed up once this mark-down over. Checking 60cents and thai-flood stories, yet again?

We shall see how it plays out. For those claiming JCY is under-valued at 1.50 levels, please BUY hugely as it is at huge discount to that so-called under-valued levels.


TEH

Hi

For dividend, checkout blotto. 6.5cents.

Teh

Hi Edwin

Don't forget about usd and Thai flood. These will be used again, then they will have analysts upgrading etcetc and send someone to tell others here that it worth rm2 at least, due to reliable insider news. Many will give their emails away to get those insiders tips while get trapped into it, believing that rm2 news. That is how market works. Very cruel towards those naive and ignorant retailers, searching for sure win tips. It is playing on fear and greed.

If only we have more logical traders and investors. Someone who know logics, experienced enough to smell rats and avoid traps. Too bad, the latest share buy back stories us fizzling too. They really needs Thai flood or something huge again to goreng it up. A current level, avoid or trade short terms with leading technical indicators. Easier aid than done.

Good luck to those taking the trade. I can't answer someone from i3 who bought at rm1.30. I don't know what to say. Sorry.

Teh

Hi

I just feel we need to be responsible with what we are writing, especially those newbies are following some so called sifu's calls. It is so risky.

As for klci, I do not see any stocks worth buying to hold for a year. Certainly not maybank or orient, tho personally I do like oriental fundamentally.

No system in the world could give us trading scomi and johotin, signals in both. No way. It's ridiculous not to understand scomi is manipulated and johotin having her own stories. I want to repeat that due to lacking in liquidity and Malaysia boleh market conditions, no software could give us good enough signals to enter or exit. It is certainly not hat simple and I m worry for many followers here believing in such systems really exist. It does not.

I m a novice, I stand to share logic with many newbies. They are ignorants. Use hem in proper manner. Let them have time to learn. By giving them the fishes, and not pointing out the risk is not right.

I do not wish to be seen as a spoiler but if one is sincere to share knowledge, I m more than willing to share a piece of my mind. After all, there is no certainty in markets?

TEH

Hi

I disagree on the long term part. If u r going to hold for a year, we do not buy anything which over valued in such risky traders' market. It is near suicidal buying to hold at this point of time. I do hope more of those know how would help to rectify these.

Johotin is in right issue news related and rm3? Base on what valuations, may I ask?

Klse stocks could not be traded using pure technical and most of flawed software screening. Those buying blindly into such calls should practice caution as I m worry that those newbies will fall into such calls.

Learn to know about businesses, about market pulse, some basic fundamentals, cooperate exercises, basic technical analysis and lots of common sense. Get real.

Please consult those know how as anything written here are of personal opinions?

TEH

Hi fat cat

No point talking to u as u do seem to hv some hatred inside u. Still don't understand why u r reading my postings. Weird.

I let u rest in peace as I believe in God. Do good as things will turn back to u. I m still struggling in the wheel, and moving forward out of it soon. Thank God. How about u? Still cursing in forums? Hmmm

TEH

Hi

Yup, tho i m below average, I would say I m satisfied.

TEH

morning

i dont view it as sacrifices. I just-do-it as that is written in my goal. I may fail or side-tracked, it doesnt matter. I am ok with my own adventure as I m the one tracking my paths. Those books as reminders each time we are tired, we are side-tracked and when we need that assurance. The journey is long and kinda alone. Simply put, average normal person won't even think of it, certainly won't bother to consider any sacrifices.

we need to be reminded. If i could be reminded, even reading few pages, it is worth my rm50.

TEH

Hi

He is a millionaire. Who are u, then?

TEH

Hi Edwin

Yes, I used technical for the trade. Basically, it is technical analysis. Gapped down with hammer/spinning top/doji with strong volume is a strong buy to me.

Those without experiences of catching a knife SHOULD NOT be buying but wait for reversal to confirm, for example the confirmation in hammer or perhaps, MACD in green. Buying at 3.10 above could be a 'safer' buy rather than a crazy buying at 2.85 or below.

I bought hugely due to Malindo news, actually. Without bad news, it could not create panic-selling. Without that, many will not cut-loss or selling it at deep discount. Without these noisy forums(and many more) making those noises, we could not gauge the FEAR level in markets. I thought they said ... be greedy when market is fear? No?

Anyway, I explained to my whole group about my trades as I do not want them to follow blindly and caught a knife, wounded and do not know how to get out.

Yes, it a shooting star or even a doji to form nearing to my resistance level, I will sell. Shooting star, or hanging man, sell ALL. Doji ... well, sell half or more.

I have given my whole groups 7(I could name 12, actually) why one should not be buying AA at 3.50 when a report came out to BUY with target RM4+. Sigh ... so much about contrarian.

Anyway, we shall watch together how I exited(I shown all my entry ... and may bought lower than me!!) and many could learn, if they appreciate my postings.

Nothing is for certain. Manage your risk.

Good luck.

TEH

HI Edwin

Got your sms. Thanks.

It is great to know u r back and in here too. Yes, I m glad as many of here could benefit from your analysis.

I will clear some at 3.15-3.20 and let others to run but resistance at 3.30 must be respected, taking profit point if needed too. When more retailers pushing in, it is a SELL to me.

Do trade as planned. If u dont know how to plan, you many want to join my tratles group and we could share opinions on stocks.

TEH

Well, AA is at 3.10. Still under repair.

Sit on it and see if it flies higher?

TEH

yup, phew. QE3 saved me and my whole group. Then, many start to say 'it is pure luck'. some might thinking of chasing at 3.09(now) ... market really doesnt make sense. Later it drops to 2.95 again, they will start to hope again it will go up. It is not for these illogical people, trading without plans.

just waiting for more to come in to jump, QE3 news blahblahblah ... and start to sell. Check on laggards, then.

TEH

I think it won't reach my 2.68 level, and with qe3, distribution will be at higher now. Hope it drop further but it won't, I think

TEH

hi Mat

well, it is not to comfort others or adding salts to the wounds. I m just pointing here because I m responsible of my own trades. Everyone should. I am a novice, trying to read market pulse ... in real. Not those so-called guru who will only come out to yell how much profits they have gained. I do understand the RISK involved.

I am not worry about so-called reputation or such. I m writing here before it rebound or fly off later. At the moment, it is crashing ... hard landing. It is just another trades for me, but for those who seldom taking trades, these knives catching is NOT for them.

So, I am NOT asking anyone to buy/sell. I am merely stating I am buying. That is not giving anyone what-so-ever logic to buy into such risky trades. If they profit, they will say u r good(mostly, they will just keep quiet and stating THEY are the one taking the risk, they are good) but if they lose money ... imagine all those unwanted words coming out from these gamblers.

Note that I am not trying to comfort anyone. Please consult those know-how or your brokers/dealers for trading advices.

Note : I do NOT buy to hold.

TEH

Hi all

it is very risky to catch a knife. Please note.

I did ask the group to cut-loss if 3.15 broken, but i dont know if they did. I told them I will buy more nearing RM3, my queue at 3.02 and 3.03 done so far. We plan, then we could reduce the risk. No one could tell anyone how high/low it could go. Just plan your trade and trade your plan.

TEH

Hi

Glad to clear so many of my holdings as technical bearish-biased being shown last week.

I will go for technical rebound tmr, when local funds coming in to support. 1600 level will be in view. Trade at your own risk or else stay sideline.

The election rumours will be in play, thus creating more fear in markets. Downgrading of Malaysia etc etc will fuel the fear. Margin-calls, flushing off contra-players ... cutting losses by newbies/novices to create a panic selling bringing us to Sept 2011, yet again. But this time might be more severe and exodus of foreign-funds will be substantial.

Hence, avoid AirAsia, Genting, CIMB and those with high foreign holders. I am just pointing out and NOT making a sell call, please. Do contact your autorised dealers for consultation and remember to trade at your own risk.

Thanks and I am out of here.

Note : Yes, traders get excited when market corrected. More homework to be done.

TEH

Hi all

Noobie : Those are good questions. To trade or invest in proper manner, it is not as easy as buy good stocks or sell when revenues decrease. More factors to it. If one bought Genting at rm11, at rm9 now is deemed cheap? We need to know why Genting being pushed up to rm11 and why it is downtrending now. Know what I mean? The chances that Genting drops 20 to 30% per day is very remote, I won't say not possible. Think of it, do u think muhibah is good fundamentally? Why do u say so? If it is good, why cimb want out? Anything to do with political risk? Etc etc. Giving dividends also may not be a good stock. Hence, many criteria to consider before one trade or invest.

Time frame. Please consider that in ones trading plan. Do we plan in the first place?

So, general rules ... Do not touch goreng stocks. If one is telling me Genting is cheap at rm11 as the target was rm13 by our friendly analysts, then rm9 should be a cheap sales? Wait a minute, klci at new high ... The risk is much higher to buy at rm9, how about rm7. Will that be a good entry price? Perhaps rm5 is cheap enough and we do not expect it to go to rm3 again? Why yes? Why not?

Thinking critically is very important. Only very few in markets will use brain to think, do their own homework and analysis. Do not trust your broker reports.

TEH

Hi passerby

the author is Pauline Yong and I doubt she will be here. Well, I do like "Jesse Livermore" book.

TEH

If I read it correctly, it said consider house first, car is just a necessity ... So buy not because of status, but because we need it. I could only hope my proton basic could last me another 5years or more as ... Err ... Proton cars won't last? Low quality? But it is still the cheapest I could afford.

Wish I could think it this way 10years ago. To the youngsters, do think about it before buying a car or change a new car?

TEH

Hi kian Wei

I can't read Chinese. But I google translate it. Good one. I was 10 years late. I was one of those ignorants. But I work doubly hard to compensate my lost years. I will hope to see results in another 5 years time as I have only started to learn about personal financial and investment about 5 years ago.

Where can I get these articles or book?

Thanks again

TEH

Morning PureBULL

Thanks for ur words. I do not have love-hate, certainly not towards things posted in noisy forums. I do feel appreciative towards those giving morale support, such as Donpazac(thanks) and I could ignore those bad words. Afterall, I am just writing a dairy for my own reading purposes. I do know many not so-good human around and I m for sure drawing boundaries to eliminate their bad 'vibes'. No worry.

My blog is featured here ... and I was told there is educational values that i3-admin seen in my blog and hoping I will share and guide those newbies. I have written my blog in daily basis for MY own recordings but if it helps others in changing their mindset, motivating some of them to be better than themselves, inspiring new newbies to be a good trader ... etc etc ... positively added values, why not?

But if my blog becoming not relevent ... readers may choose not to waste their time to read those craps(which I do admit that. haha), or if i3-admin feels it is no longer serving their purposes, it is very OK to me not to be featured here. Remember, I do not asked to be here.

Anyway, I do not read many noises here much, those I wish to spend quality time to guide and sharing some "Q&A" with many newbies. Seeing many good seniors here guiding, I think it is OK for me to move away from this forum.

I do have few from i3 becoming my tratles and also some e-mailed me and we becoming friends in facebook. Again, it doesn't matter to me ... I told everyone before ... even my blog without a single reader, I will still write as it is ... my dairy.

Yes, let the stock market speaks for itself.

Good trading ahead.

TEH

thanks. U too, learn to live your own lives more meaningful by not being mean to me? Hmm ... it is a crap, I admit. LOL

TEH

hi FCTB

haha ... u r still around?

yes, check who is the loser here?

But u r not a pain to me at all, honestly. I m still smiling. Just wonder how young u r?

Oh yes, will only write the blah blah ... perhaps later since I want to rest, it is Sunday.

Happy Sunday to you, tho my postings causing u 'pain'? Weird ... how is that?

TEH

Hi

I m from FA school, not TA as most thought so. Even my tratles only got to know that. I don't see the point of putting FA vs TA as I will ertainly draw huge attention into such, which I do not want to.

It is ok. Everyone should have their own likings and ways being in markets. The bottom lines are still profits.

As klci moving to the high levels, I prefer to trade, not buy and hold. Then, when market collapsing, it will be good to buy good coouters with FA to hold till recovery. When we trade at current moment, make your position small, but when we scoop for the bottom fishing, increase our positions when the situation becoming worst.

These are basic concepts in trading vs investing and as I said, if one knows how to manage the risk, we should be doing well. Majority 80% will still lose money as they talk about ingens, rc or whatever wasting time messages here. It is feel good, and casual chatting rather than intellectual discussion. I find such a waste of time as m a novice, learning to do better than myself ... Not anyone else.

Reading is good but will not get us far. Doing and learning in serious manner, logical and planning will slowly bu surely moving us towards our goals, being in markets.

Ask yourself. Why are you in markets? Why are we in this website or any sites? Why are we in this forum? Will it be a waste of time? What do I get to learn from this one posting or is it just another blah blah ?

Think critically. Just do not do what the majority are doing,, after all we have 90% losing money in markets, right?

Nightzzzz

TEH

Hi

I posted in my blog. Thanks.

I could not read Chinese, so I hv to use google translate. There are few more from you buy I do have time to read or such. Will keep those article and might enjoy reading it one day.

Thanks again.

TEH

Hi jpleow

U do give some good comments. By why these bs things here for?

TEH

HI all

at 2.35 today this morning done if queued? once it drops and planned to buy, got buy? Once planned to sell at resistance, got sell?

that is the difficult of of trading.

TEH

Hi CCW,

‎82, Jalan Desa 4/6, Rawang Country Home. Masliza 012-266 3649.

Thanks

TEH

hi all ...

thanks for the emotional supports. I m just doing what I like to do, sharing and imparting knowledge ... not selfish. I am being brought up to appreciate what I have and reminded to look at those more unfortunate ones. So, I am doing what my heart guiding me to. That explains how I could be so dedicated to teach my tratles well in trading, as I am just a teacher. I am humbled by many good traders around. Hope we could appreciate others too.

God bless

TEH

Hi all

I bought Pantech 10k units only. Breaking higher, ascending triangle. Will average up.

TEH

Hi

weida, , I bought 10k units some time ago too, but don't know about the news?

TEH

hi YS

I guaranteed you that .. I won't.

I am out of here. Good luck.

Dream on ...

TEH

p/s : I bought SKPetrol and MPHB, just for your info.

morning YungShen

Err .. I do think you still do not understand that NO ONE could tell you when they want to speculate on KNM, unless u r on Lee's side.

Profit 30% is BS ... that is not reality, not with KNM. Those who claimed to catch to profit 30% is ... err ... never mind, they are good(or good luck?).

Sorry again, I am a real trader. I m too logical to explain to newbies further. I hv pointed enough and want to be out of this thread now.

Take care YS and all.

Off

p/s : There is no way u could sell at 0.765 ... otherwise, u r TOO good for me. That was shooting-star, expecting T+4 to sell and see if they want to goreng up again, otherwise ... back to 0.57, will you buy?

TEH

This KNM is still alive ... active ... and flying above RM1?

Technical Analysis used for KNM? Haha ... this is punting stock, can use TA? As for speculative stocks, candle-sticks are planted anyway. Don't tell me if a person in markets for so long do not know such basics. So, after t+4, pushed down ... and then push ... above RM1, is it? Then ... time to clear ALL my other stocks and sai-lang it here ... ride on her?

Please teach me how to make 10%-25% per month consistently? I do see many queueing up their e-mail ... but I am still logical tho it is late ...

May I ask ... can earn millions already in market, why still hanging around in this forum? To HELP newbies, novices like us here? SURE?

THINKing allowed? Defying logics ... night.

TEH

Well, randomly keep 100 analyst reports. Check them after a year, as most of the target prices are meant for a year. Then, check the validity. Check the percentage of those get even near to the target prices.

Repeat that for five years.

Take the average percentage. Analyse which broker house reports have highest accuracy level.

Try that. It will be interesting topic. Then, make a survey, ask how many of them buying into stocks reading broker reports and their performances.

We could be surprised.

TEH

hi KC bro

The analysts are 'wrong' most of the time. We should not blame them as they are just following instructions and employed to 'do' their jobs.

It is also interesting to note that many newbies and novices WILL read those reports to buy-sell. So, we could get to know the market/stock sentiments and trade accordingly, normally ... just go against the herd, we should be alright.

So, I do not read analysts reports.

TEH

Hi frank

Thanks bro for the promotion. Haha. Well, I m certainly not going to talk about speculative stocks such as KNM, but when he kept mentioning the word 'investing', it is not right. There are huge differences between investing and trading. You can trade KNM at the moment if you know how but you should never buy-n-hold such speculative stocks. If a person buy and accidentally got stacked with such stocks, we have to admit that we were not right, and think critically how we should rectify the situation, rather than insisting we are investing or wanting to be right. To me, preservation of capitals is more important to show I m right?

Opportunity cost - this is another thing newbies need to learn. With our funds stucked for long time into such stocks, how are we going to buy into something better for us to profit? Unless one has infinite resource of funds?

Admitting wrong, analyses critically our mistakes, then only one could learn to be better trader or nvestor. Without knowing such basics, there is no way we could improve. Never be in state of denial. Be real, always. Be logical and critical.

In sept 2011, when some of my tratles came to me and shown me their portfolios, I critically asked them some questions. Whether to cut loss or not, the final decisions are still theirs. With stocks like iris, KNM, Saag, hwgb ... Even I remembered some remisiers asking them to buy perwaja at rm1plus, how not to lose money? There are few of them with about 10 to 15 stocks in hands, mostly losing 20 to 60% below their cost prices. How will you advise them? I never advise anyone as I m not licensed to do such, but I just tell them some painful facts, pour some cold water into their unrealistic dreams or target prices. Then, I changed their mindset ... Making them to realize how market actually works, teach them some basics ... They are on the way to recovery, and will do well some day.

With many appreciate my pointers, and feel appreciated, it is natural for me to advise some novices here when I see such calls to buy KNM? No doubt that many newbies will be attracted to the huge profits in short days, but they will be the one get trapped and silently biting on paper losses.

That is how market works, anyway. Just be very careful.

When things getting too good to be true, it is not true. Waking up and pick up the pieces, learning to be strong again and making more logical trades in future, hopefully.

Yes, do listen to kc or some good ones here. It is all personal opinions, anyway.

TEH

Dear yungshen,

As I said, an investor do not buy such counters. Investors will look for dividends, upside, fund buyings, core business, trusted management, company policies etc etc. If I m going to write in detail about KNM, you will know what an investor, a trader, a speculator and a punter ... The differences.

Those buying into KNM are not called investors. They are caught by promises, cooked up reports by broker reports, played by some parties etc etc. buying into her could be due to ignorant, newbies caught in the hype 3years ago when she was the darling of Klse.

No one could predict the future, but investors do not place hope in such counters. He market risk, business risk are simply not logical.

So, I wish KNM will go to your level predicted, but market doesn't work the way u mentioned. Market players are too smart for those greedy ones. They play on emotions of retailers.

Alright, enough said.

Just all the best. You are still young, u could learn if u wish too.

TEH

Hi again

Ok, since u pulled me in again, I will write about it, in my personal opinion these few days. I m on holiday now.

Happy holiday.

All the best for yor KNM.

TEH

Hi yungshen

Investors won't buy KNM. It is plain illogical.

Traders will trade short term, wait for t4, then see if they are going to push for momentum play again.

Punters love her, as they give thrills.

Many look into her as they got stuck at very much high levels, above rm2 or at least rm1. So, it is understandable suddenly many talk about her for short while.

For newbies and novices, it is still my personal advices not to touch such counters. But again, they won't listen, I guess.

I m looking at it now as I m a trader and with risk management. Trade at your own risk.

Do not believe in not trustworthy management, with non consistent decisions made. Lee supposed to take it private at 90cents, which is rm3.60 at current price. Hmmm

Take care yungshen.

TEH

Hi Kian Wei

It depends on individual risk appetite, time frame and trading plan.

One may want to go for strong uptrending stocks such as Padini and many more. One may like to punt into pure speculative stocks for short thrills. Another person may be using dollar-averaging and collecting good counters when the counter in correction mode, such as the two G. Check out GentingS.

There is not right and wrong, some wont touch call-warrants ... some dont even know what warrants are. Some will buy due to so-called tips places in forums while other do lots of personal homework, yet did not profit well. Some of us may be total out of markets by now as KLCI reaching new high, while another larger group will rush into current markets, confident that it will be 1670 or even predicted 1700?

I do not belong to any of the group, as I do not believe in pure FA, I do not believe in pure TA ... I do not believe in noises(but it is a good indicator I am using too. haha).

I am learning ... I am in the learning group, and I m going to learn how to trade those 'dividend' stocks, those with right-issues, those syndicated counters etc etc ... and currently I am learning to trade FKLI. Well, surely I will trade FCPO too. Then, I want to learn to trade STI or HSI index, learning to trade ETF(GLD, SLV, 2840.hk ... etc etc) ...

Those are my plans. So, being the REAL trader, I will need more years to learn ... and I have to be patient to learn.

If one could not even handle a simple Genting to trade, what are they talking about Permaju or call-warrants? I can't understand how their brains work, but I m surely know how my brain work ... it logical manner.

It is very difficult to trade. Newbies and novices stand no chance in longer time frame.

Thanks for giving me a chance to explain myself and sharing some words and my plans. Believe me, majority DO NOT want to learn and will get badly burnt. Too bad ... that is how market works.

TEH

Hi kc and all,

Sorry that I do to follow the stories. I do know that we could always let go of others opinions and stick to our own views, if we do not agree.

Just spend our time sharing and learning. Always remember that there are 90% losing in markets. So, do expect more noises in public forums. I3 platform is one of the best around but not the forums anymore.

When do we buy hugely? When the whole forum is quiet. It is noisy, showing it is bullish. Contrarians will win anytime.

Have ice holiday and keep peace in tact.

TEH

hi Imoogi

I dont know if u r the Imoogi I knew.

Haha

Cheers.

TEH

Hi al833d,

Can accumulate mphb for mid-term play.

TEH

Hi bro kc

Cool it. Treat it as noises leh. I do not know about the friction but we could continue our pointers to help others by ignoring those many whom we feel not worth the time.

But I like many of your creative jokes. Like your email alias, haha .... And garubawah? Haha.

Take it likely.

Cheers la.

TEH

Hi mat cendana,

I m just following my logical plan. Many in my group bought at 0.495-0.505 levels, so I asking them to sell at resistance around 0.55 to 0.57.

This is the third time of buying at support 0.50 and sell at 0.55 resistance, that is merely technical.

Be contrarian, I told all and share with all. Plan and plan. Trade with good risk management. Be patience and wait. Take profits when needed, cut loss when it is needed too.

Yeah, the whole group is glad today. What's next?

Buy if breakout confirmed, that will be next plan.

TEH

hi all

since many want Alam, it is time to sell.

It is a sell at 0.55-0.57 levels.

Thanks.

TEH

thanks all. will do if i m still around?

TEH