In my opinion, there is possibility the number here may drop in upcoming days due to true impact of MCO 2.0 (which is still more stringent than CMCO before as state border cross is not permmited during MCO 2.0).

if cases drop in upcoming days, based on remark by Ministry of Health/government, I think the economy may be allowed with stricter SOPs.

And if the situation improves, we have more time for economy recovery with more vaccines development/roll out, as well as new medications being developed to deal with COVID worldwide.

GENTING and GENM are still hopeful in upcoming weeks/months with more and more news updates in vaccine roll out.

Just my two cents. NOt a buy call or sell call.

Good luck to all.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-sees-60-drop-in-hospitalizations-for-over-60s-in-weeks-after-vaccination/

I am hopeful more and more encouraging data would be released from the country, where vaccinations drive is the fastest in the world,...I believe this will boost the tourism stocks...

I am hopeful market will see a huge boost when more and eventual data out from this nation with most vaccination drive being carried out...Just like back in September2020, where vaccine news rock the market for recovery...

My two cents, not a buy call/sell call.

DIsclaimer: This is personal opinion, not a buy call or sell call, risk on own.

@MG9231, thanks for posting this.

I am hopeful more and more encouraging data would be released from the country, where vaccinations drive is the fastest in the world,...I believe this will boost the tourism stocks...

I am hopeful market will see a huge boost when more and eventual data out from this nation with most vaccination drive being carried out...Just like back in September2020, where vaccine news rock the market for recovery...

My two cents, not a buy call/sell call.

history tends to repeat where we saw a panic sell-off back in March20, and a strong rebounds afterwards...

I will add more if the share drop to around rm 3.6/7..

More and more vaccines and medicines being developed and coming out...I believe recovery is in sight....The mankind will SCIENCE this XXX out....

history tends to repeat where we saw a panic sell-off back in March20, and a strong rebounds afterwards...

I will add more if the share drop to around rm 3.6/7..

More and more vaccines and medicines being developed and coming out...I believe recovery is in sight....The mankind will SCIENCE this XXX out....

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/22/health/covid-19-vaccines-johnson-and-johnson-next/index.html

More vaccines could be coming soon and they could be a big boost to the rollout...

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/22/health/covid-19-vaccines-johnson-and-johnson-next/index.html

More vaccines could be coming soon and they could be a big boost to the rollout...

@shareinvestor88. NO body know, except the NSC (MKN) would have some ideas. I think it really depends on number of cases in upcoming days.

But my personal opinion, the impact on GENTING/GENM would be minimal, because most businesses under GENM and GENTING have already shutted down due to MCO 2.0.

But more stringent SOP enforcement, or a possible tightened MCO, would do good to help to bring the number lower sooner possible. So, there is a positivity out of this tightened MCO 3.0, rumoured to be enforced soon.

I think most people would already expect longer MCO till maybe after CNY...so maybe the current sell down has already reflected all these unfavaourable factors.

but as long as there are solutions in sight (vaccines, herd immunity under planned), I still have hope on recovery in next 2-3 quarters.

By the way, my personal opinion, just my opinion, we maybe able to see cases dropping in upcoming days, where MCO 2.0 impact would start surfacing.

And I also keep some hopes, that in upcoming weeks, there is this game changer, one-dose Johnson and Johnson developed vaccine to be out in market, massed produced....

As well as I m also hoping there will be some breakthrough news in medicines to treat Covid severe patient, which I hope all these can help to end the pandemic soon.

Just my two cents, my own thinking and hopes.

Disclaimer: Not a buy call, or sell call. Please analyze on own.

If there is a solution in sight to combat the pandemic, which is happening now with more and more vaccines and more new medicines, I don;t think the downside is huge, maybe some weak holders will give up...But I see many are still patiently holding, waiting opportunity to top up more...after learning the experiences back in March20.

I really doubt GM will down to below rm2, or GENTING will down to below rm 3.5...coz i think now situation is different, there are already some solutions, and more and more solutions are coming out.

I learned from Dr. Fauci, from one of his interviews last 2- days. He mentioned about one more giant pharmaceutical com, J&J will release its trial test result end of this month. This maybe game changer, it is a one-dose vaccine, and from one of largest companies, J&J. I actually hope the vaccine from J&J can me even more distinctive, as it took longer time for development process.

There can be more options, more availability for vaccines for many countries with more and more approval on the new developed vaccines, which is giving hopes on near future recovery.

Just my two cents to share..just my opinion, the possible total lock down won;t really affect what is already happening to most GENM and GENTING business.

My concern is only, if vaccines fail, and if vaccine fails, it means no solution in sight, if this happens, the recovery stocks may collapse totally.

Just my two cents to share.

back in March, there was a panic plunged as most people caugt up with this pandemic with no solution in sight.

But now, though it is a tough ride looking at the Covid cases, but the fact is there is vaccine and it is on rolling out actively everywhere...which means, there is an officially a solution to this pandemic in sight, and more and more new medicines and vaccines being approved to combat the pandemic...

I think there will not be a total collapse in tourism stock such as GENM and GENTING, as people anticipating market recovery with the vaccines and medications.

Just my opinion to share.

I think Steveleehs may be somewhat right, the GENTING businesses mostly are off already due to MCO 2.0.

The possible total lock down may affect more the manufacturing/construction,other non critical sector including retail businesses.

On the positive side, imagine if the possible total lock down is able to restore the situation...

Its certainly a tough ride now due to high number of Covid cases.

However, most investors keep holding still at rm2.3++ as of last friday, so that we have yet to see a sharp drop in share price, which is good...

I hope in upcoming weeks, the impact of MCO 2.0 will start surface out with reduce in COVID cases, which can shed some lights on the recovery.

Elsewhere, vaccination keeps rolling out, daily we are exposed to different vaccination progress and development, and news and uptake rates, some are encouraging and some news are a bit worrying.

The particularly encouraging is the one from US giant pharmaceutical company, Johnson & Johnson, with trial result to be out by this month end, expected to be in mass production soon. This J&J vaccine require only one dose to be effective, unlike other vaccines. This can be a game changer. The fact that J&J is taking its time in the tests and development, would means something really distinctive.

With more and more vaccines and even with some varying efficacy, I believe herd immunity will be achieved in next few quarters to come.

Based on the vaccination progress, there should be more and more news out, and we are embracing our own vaccination in Malaysia starting in next month.

I hope and keep faith in that, mankind is gonna SCIENCE this XXX out soon.
Let's keep faith, be positive that the SCIENCE will help bring back our life in upcoming months.

My two cents on recovery.

Disclaimer: NOt a buy call or sell call. Invest on own. Study own analysis and make own wise decision.

Its certainly a tough ride now due to high number of Covid cases.

However, most investors keep holding still at rm2.3++ as of last friday, so that we have yet to see a sharp drop in share price, which is good...

I hope in upcoming weeks, the impact of MCO 2.0 will start surface out with reduce in COVID cases, which can shed some lights on the recovery.

Elsewhere, vaccination keeps rolling out, daily we are exposed to different vaccination progress and development, and news and uptake rates, some are encouraging and some news are a bit worrying.

The particularly encouraging is the one from US giant pharmaceutical company, Johnson & Johnson, with trial result to be out by this month end, expected to be in mass production soon. This J&J vaccine require only one dose to be effective, unlike other vaccines. This can be a game changer. The fact that J&J is taking its time in the tests and development, would means something really distinctive.

With more and more vaccines and even with some varying efficacy, I believe herd immunity will be achieved in next few quarters to come.

Based on the vaccination progress, there should be more and more news out, and we are embracing our own vaccination in Malaysia starting in next month.

I hope and keep faith in that, mankind is gonna SCIENCE this XXX out soon.
Let's keep faith, be positive that the SCIENCE will help bring back our life in upcoming months.

My two cents on recovery.

Disclaimer: NOt a buy call or sell call. Invest on own. Study own analysis and make own wise decision.

Moderna news...More and more vaccine news are rolling out...Let's hope we can end the pandemic with Science and life can return to normal...

https://www.chinapress.com.my/20210123/%e2%97%a4%e5%85%a8%e7%90%83%e5%a4%a7%e6%b5%81%e8%a1%8c%e2%97%a2-400%e4%b8%87%e4%ba%ba%e6%89%93%e8%8e%ab%e5%be%b7%e7%ba%b3-%e4%bb%8510%e4%be%8b%e4%b8%a5%e9%87%8d%e8%bf%87%e6%95%8f/

@choysun. agree.

Let's be patient, riding through the volatile market during Covid Pandemic.

Be firm on our believe, and make wise analysis.

I myself will keep the Buffetts famous ALL TIME quote in mind:

"We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful."

I am preparing to add more if the GENM dip to RM 2.3/2, in batches, and most likely to load some more at around rm 2/below.

Some more news to share on efficacy of vaccines, I think this gives some ideas on worry for new variants and strains of the Covid virus.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/21/dr-fauci-says-covid-vaccines-appear-to-be-less-effective-against-some-new-strains.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9178525/Dr-Fauci-says-one-shot-Johnson-Johnson-vaccine-approved-two-weeks.html

Dr.Fauci said that the new vaccine (From Johnson & Johnson) presents 'really good news' because once approved it will make it easier for the public to get inoculated since it's a single-dose shot.

'That's really important because you can expect to start to see results 10, 14 days or so right after,' he said.

'But it has a less stringent cold chain requirement, which is really good.'

Fauci's comments come a day after Dr. Mark McClellen, a Johnson & Johnson board member, told CNBC on Thursday that the nation's COVID-19 vaccine supply will receive a huge boost in the coming weeks 'if the clinical trial works out.'

'I do know that J&J is making a very large supply, going all out with its production, both here in the US and elsewhere around the world, with the goal of having perhaps enough vaccines for 100 million Americans by spring, by this April or so,' McClellan, the former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, said on Thursday.

Actually I feel all are welcomed to share respective thoughts and ideas and findings, since this is an open forum for all on GENM...

But not to overwrite some others postings here. Disagreements should be permissible, but never ever write off other opinions and laugh off someone shared ideas for own interest.

I will never laugh off someone to be kidding themselves for their postings and comments here, as I truly know how big is the world and things we are not expert in.

Never ever be so sure on something, trying to laugh off people, write off others sharing, just because you want to scare away people to sell in panic for your to buy low.

You can share on your thoughts on negativity of GENM, or posivity of GEMM, but what is your points to insist that you are the one one who will be right in your analysis?!

Some more news to share: Light at the end of the tunnel?!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9178525/Dr-Fauci-says-one-shot-Johnson-Johnson-vaccine-approved-two-weeks.html

Some news to share, from Dr. Fauci (US infectious diseases expert and leader)

https://www.enanyang.my/%E5%9B%BD%E9%99%85/%E7%A6%8F%E5%A5%87%E7%96%AB%E8%8B%97%E5%AF%B9%E5%8F%98%E5%BC%82%E7%97%85%E6%AF%92%E6%9C%89%E6%95%88

Actually I think those who feel like GENM is going south, can just stay away from this counter if this counter is hopeless to you. I mean if this is not your pick, why not you just stay away and save your time to do other things.

If you think Covid is gonna vanish the tourism industry, then just leave this forum, save your time for other stocks which you think high?!

Or you want to create fear based on market sentiment, and expect the share to dip further, so that you can buy low at RM 2?!

I really don;t think this will work, there are so many investors out there with own study and analysis.

@chokin, i just wanted to share with you never say never to things that beyond our knowledge. We all dunno much of these mother nature things, so never ever conclude that Cobid is forever with us.

I think Covid will fade away, but before it materializes my way or your way, please do not tell me that I am kidding myself. I just shared what I thought and equally I am not saying you are living your own world and you must be kidding yourself by creating this Panic here.

I have faith in Vaccine, Be optimistic Chokin! It is friday, let's relax, rest, and look forward for next weeks/month development.

Happy investing, lets hope we all make gain in the share market together.
Take care.

@chokin...we will know in due course if I am kidding you or myself, or the opposite. Never say never for things that beyond our knowledge. The power or technology is something we all will not know the entire thing. I discovered too many great things during my PhD study in Engineering in Germany and yet, I don;t know the much things of this nature for sure.

Do not underestimate the ultimate function and role of the vaccine. It may not be a smooth ride in the recovery. But mankind will survive....Most pandemic ends when times come, JE, Spanish Pandemic, H1n1, SARS etc...

I hope we can exchange some more ideas by end of the year 2021...and we will know maybe I am kidding myself, yourself, or the opposite.

This is only my own analysis and thinking. Times will tell if my analysis and thinking are right...

Be optimistic @choking...go study what is a vaccine and how does it work in due course, and mutation of virus, process, etc, and I am sure you will be more optimistic than now, which is good.

Disclaimer: NOt a buy call or sell call. Just my own two cents to share with fellow investors here.

@752-michael_chan, the important thing is that the vaccine must work to reduce the contraction rate, and reduce the severity of the covid symdrome. These can help to end the pandemic.

I really hope so, and we are anticipating more and more efficacy data out soon, One of countries in middle east already have 20% of population vaccinated with first dose and they released some efficacy data, even though lower than claimed by Fritzer, but it didn;t say it is not helpful.

The percentage of contracted patient is still low, that is after first dose of vaccination. Second dose will follow after 24 days, and we may be seeing the efficacy data of second dose soon. If the data is close to what Fritzer claimed. That will be the first mass vaccination real efficiancy reported, and if that news come out positive, I really think the dawn is at the end of tunnel...

Just some of my hopes and I am convinced the pandemic will end sooner than expected.

My two cents, not a buy call or sell call...Just my own analysis and opinion.

@shareinvestor88, i think we do not have option, we may not be able to choose...if I recall rght.

In fact, there are some efficacy data out already from mass vaccination in another country. And the data to me are delighting with first dose protection rate. Even though it is reported lower than claimed by Fritzer.

But good thing is, it works to certain extend even with first dose of vacination.

I am convinced, there will be more positive news from vaccinations day in day out...

My two cents.

In my opinion current COVID cases are high, and this create bad sentiment in the market. And yet GEM stays at rm 2.3/2.4...this is what I predicted in my previous tweet.

It situation get really worst in upcoming days, I think GEMN may dip further to RM 2.3/2.2

But I don;t think will bottom at rm 2.

I think MCO started about more than a week ago will only see the improvement in upcoming weeks. I really think the current numbers are due to people contracted the virus before the MCO., and the effects of MCO will start surface may be in next week onwards.

If number drops due to impact of MCO 2.0. THe GENM and GENTING will stay supported to RM 2.4/2.5....

So no way, in my opinion it will dip to RM 2 below.

Just my two cents, not a buy call or sell call.

@strattegist. Tq for advices. Yes, I may need to talk to my remisier. I hope we can bargain better price offer from FELDA, not at this low, especially now crude palm oil price at years high...

Really upset with those in FELDA management, at times where crude palm oil price show sustainable up trends, they decide to privatize it...

@FGV, I am holding a doctor (PhD) title, but in Engineering. Carrying a doctor or PhD it also does not mean I know everthing bro.

Though I am in stock investment more than 10 years, honestly this is first time my positions are in doubt over the mandatory unconditional buy back offer.

That is why I seek opinion here, if I can just totally ignore the madatory offer reply slip? Or what is the consequence if I reject it, or if I ignore the reply for the mandatory offer?

Based on curren scenario, what is the best recommendation? My buying price @rm2+. And I have not follow FGV anymore for last few years.

So can we reject the offer and not to reply the mandatory offer sent to us? What happen after 2Feb21, if we do not repy to them by sending them the confirmation of acceptance slip? How does it go from here if we reject and the offer period is over? Can they just sapu and forfeit out shares? or they have to renegotiate, or they will freeze the share? Anyone having ideas may want to share...my buying price much higher...now palm oil price up more than 3k...and the Felda shouting for delisting...

@Kaitan,...

Just to share...feel free to read if find useful :)

@Dr.choysun

I myself missed many opportunties during panic sell, way dated back to 2008-2010...and Euro crisis 2011-2012...I was selling during panic,and following those panic inciters...only to realize the rebound later on. It was hard lessons for me during that time.

Over the years, I have seen and evidenced many such circumstances where market recovered sooner than everybody expectation, where most retailers regretting selling fast and not being patient enough....I was one of them who missed the opportunities, and I realized I should have bought during blue chip tumble.

Market going quicker than everybody thought after Panic/Crisis, marker is never giving us any hints or tips before it bounce back from Panic crisis. It happened before in March 20...where many of us including myself, now regretting not courageous enough to nibble more during market fear /panic back in March20 where GENM down to RM 2, GENTING down to RM 3, and CIMB down to RM 3...

History tend to repeat here, and I am reminding myself...Think out of the box, do the other don't....its "Once in life time cycle"....How often do we see GENM dipped to RM 2++ and GENTING RM 3++?! Be really prudent for sell call and buy call.


My two cents...to share with fellow investors. I wish all of us will be rewarded patiently from the recovery theme stocks...I remember Buffett famous quote:

"Majority people do not actually make profit from share market, because majority of us want to gain wealth fast and have no patient to ride through the volatility"


I also remember Cold Eye famous qoute:

"Be courageous in undervalued blue chips, check on those blue chips under valued signifcantly due to crisis". Check on their fundamental. The worst it got hit by the crisis,, it tends to rebound stronger...if you trust on the management governance and if you trust on recovery is imminent.


My two cents, to share with fellow investors here.

Again, just my opinion and thoughts: Invest on own study, risk on own.

@jonny8855...Thanks for posting this.

My personal thoughts, the surge now is contracted before MCO...We should see a reduce in number of cases in upcoming week...I am very hopeful on this.

@shareinvestor88, I am betting GENM may dip to rm 2.3+, maybe 2.2 but I do not seee it will bottom at previous low RM 2 or RM 1.5 TP...

The answer is simple: We have seen it dip below RM 2, and rebound strongly to almost RM 2.8. Many Uncle and Aunties will fast grab the GENM at RM2. Buying volume should be huge so that it is hard to dip to RM 2.

I will regret so much to sell at RM 2 definately, and only see it rebound to higher price and I miss by selling at rm 2.

those who keep shouting for TP 1.5...or RM 2. They want my cheap ticket at RM 1.5 or at RM2.

Though under MCO, and number of cases stay high. But the GENM share price unlikely to dip to RM 2 or RM 1.5. Its like CIMB Share pricehard to dip to RM3 again. Let's be realistic.

Share market always look forward for future. The same analogy applies to glove counters. NO matter how high the number of cases globally. The share price isn;t going much higher, in fact, the earning is expected to remain high, yet,Top glove price is around RM 6++, today down some more. This is simply due to market anticipating more and more positive vaccination roll out news.
There are gonna be more and more effective vaccine, more and more vaccine efficacy, improvement data out...The vaccination roll out will be more and more distributed.

The only thing that can stock the recovery theme stocks and boost the glove counters, in my humble opinion, is that, if the vaccine fails and the Covid seems not diminishing (most pandemic will fade by soon or later if you study the pandemic history). If any of these happen, then most recovery theme stocks will tumble once more again...

But I trust the technology continue to improve and the vaccine will end the pandemic sooner than every expect. I trust the recovery would start in second Q...

History tend to repeat again, where many retail investors will lose faith in blue chip, due to bumpy road of market recovery, getting affected by those who shout on panic with intention to buy back at low. But Warren Buffett famous quote remind me "be greedy when market panic, be careful when market too optimistic". And Another famous Malaysian Stock Analyst, often known by "cold eye", he has his advice "grab those blue chips super undervalued due to panic market", be patient and wait for recovery...you will be rewarded.

Just to share my honest personal thoughts on GENM and GENTING...Not a buy call or sell call.
Disclaimer: Invest on own study, risk on own. DO own analysis and make own decisions because loss or profit will be our own own.

Happy investing guys, lets hope the market heading for recovery after bumpy ride.

Actually I missed so many opportunities back in March20, so many counters collapse under panic sell and majority fear during March out of uncertainty and despair.

And yet the market rebound strongly. And I think many of us missed the golden opportunty too to invest in blue chips.

It just proved Warren BUffetts famous quote right :
"Be greedy during market fear" "Be cautious when market too hot"

How many of us see this through? HOw many of us sail through the share market,think out of the box and go against majority wish? Share market is always at odds...againsts majority wish and prediction. How many of us are courageous enough to practice Warren Buffett famous quote.

During an interview, people asked him, why so many failed in share market and what make him so successful?

He replied. Most people failed, because they do not want to gain wealth slowly. MOst people are not patience. They want quick profit. That is why most people are not winning the share market.

Just to share above story. and again, I do not want to give buy call or sell or hold calls. But I really think, patience, courage are key towards success. No body is able to predict the share market, that is true. But I really think patience, and courage are the key...

Just to share above.

Again, Invest on own, risk on own. Make own decisions, bros, and sisters.

Happy investing, let's hope we keep our patience, we make wise decisions and let's hope market recover soon.

If my holding power is weak, if I need cash in up coming weeks, I will cash out. But really I should have cashed out at RM 2.6-2.7 some weeks ago, not now.

If I have holding power, I will nibble some around rm 2.3/2.2, and it situation got worst, I am prepared to nibble some more around rm 2.

I am expecting situation should be improving starting second Quarter 2021, and anticipating a rebound of GENM and GENTING from around 2.3/2.2,begnning April/May.

Just my two cents to share with fellow investors. Not a buy call or sell call.

Disclaimer: Invest on your own risk. study and analyze on your own, coz you will earn profit for yourself, or suffer loss yourself too. So never just listen to others, do own analysis.

Happy investing.

In my opinion share markets will be bumpy in upcoming weeks, due to increasing Covid-19 and MCO.

And GENM and GENTING are under selling pressure but seriously I think the room to drop is not superlarge. I would bet on GENM to dip to around 2.3/2.2++ and GENTING to dip to around 3.8++.

As I said before, we should have already witnessed the worst during MARCH and some months ago, where GENM dip to below RM 2, during which market collapse with uncertainty.

Now with Vaccine roll out, I think not very likely it will bottom down to RM 2 again. This is because I really think many investors will rush to grabs GENM and GENTING at RM 2.2. and 3.8++. I am even anticipating huge buying volume at these low.

I am holding the GENM at abit higher than current price...And I will never want to give up my positions at rm 2.2, 2.1, having already seen GENM bottom around this price back in March.

Will you?

Hello Guys, for the mandatory unconditional offer to buy back our shares, do we have to accept?

We have witnessed back in March 20 and another time during last year, where Genm dipped bottom to around rm2 or slightly below...That bottom has now gone into everybody mindset, and in my opinion it will be very unlikely GENM will dip to RM 2 in upcoming months even with some storms possibly happen.

The justification is simple. If you hold GENM, and if storm coming, during panic sale, the share price drop...Will you sell at RM 2? The answer is very unlikely, because you have witnessed the GENM bottom at close to rm 2 before, and you will not want to sell at bottom low to miss the rebound.

SO I think the current share price is pretty solid, even if there is a storm, the share price may stay at 2.3++...

On the other hand, with the active vaccine roll out, there will be more and more positive news...especially if in upcoming weeks, if the vaccines prove to work for the mutated virus, if that happens and news come, the market will rebound very very strongly all over, most recovery stocks will make gains...

In my opinion, stock market is always looking 6 months++ ahead. That is why glove counters shot up unbelivably before..But now, given active vaccine roll out, unlikely glove stocks will make much gain in near future, despite super good profit now....The answer is, market is looking months ahead...The market is looking what is gonna happen in months ahead.


That is why, I am holding on the GENM position..if it dip to rm 2.3++ below, I will buy more.

Just my two cents to share with fellow investors here.

Disclaimer: above not constitute for recommendation to buy or sell, invest on own study, coz risk on own.

Genting not only relying on GENM and hotel business, it involves in Palm oil, energy, plantation, Property, which are doing good, espeacilly the Palm Oil (Crude palm oil price are 3600++

And the GENS under Genting will be recovering really well...With the prgress the Singapore government making on vaccination and thier well governed economy reopening...

I don;t think genting will fall to rm 3++ ...maybe some bumpy news may cause it drop rm 4, or rm 3.8-9....etc...

I am keeping the positions in Genm and Genting, and if both dip below rm 2.3 and rm 3.9....I will buy more to bring down the buying price more....

And if both of them rise sooner than expected and catch all in surprise, I will be more than happy because I continue to hold on my position without panic selling during these few days.

Just my two cents.

Disclamer: This do not constitute to sell or buy call, risk on own Tq.

actually over all these years of investment, my findings on share up trend or downtrend....

Its always true on the Buffet famous qoute "Be greedy when market fear, Be alert when market too hot".

It proved to be right again and again, yesterday and monday most people expect the Gemn and Genting dip bottom to RM2 and RM3++... BUt they didn't....

Market are always againts all wishes and predictions...That is why in share market only less than 10% making sustainable profit.

What I mean here, in my opinion...to win the market we have to think out of the box, when most people predict it market down, that is the moment we can seriously consider to buy in...If most people bet on GenM and Genting downtrend in 2021. In my opinion, I would go against everybody wish, to actually buy in 2021.

Coz I know market will not follow majority wish. But it will catch all in surprise...

Just my Two cent.

Disclaimer: This do not constitute sell or buy call. Risk on own. Tq.

actually over all these years of investment, my findings on share up trend or downtrend....

Its always true on the Buffet famous qoute "Be greedy when market fear, Be alert when market too hot".

It proved to be right again and again, yesterday and monday most people expect the Gemn and Genting dip bottom to RM2 and RM3++... BUt they didn't....

Market are always againts all wishes and predictions...That is why in share market only less than 10% making sustainable profit.

What I mean here, in my opinion...to win the market we have to think out of the box, when most people predict it market down, that is the moment we can seriously consider to buy in...If most people bet on GenM and Genting downtrend in 2021. In my opinion, I would go against everybody wish, to actually buy in 2021.

Coz I know market will not follow majority wish. But it will catch all in surprise...

Just my Two cent.

Disclaimer: This do not constitute sell or buy call. Risk on own. Tq.

@choysun, good, PhD comp science is hot cake now, ENg & Tech not laku anymore! You got invested in good career :).

After the Covid fading away, lets go yum cha in GENM, relook back at all this bumpy ride...and share more info in the world of investment...

by the way, am from Klang Valley.

@adamwarlock....

yeah, lets ride through the volatility. If not for volatility, there will not be this golden opportunty appearing (where many blue chips drop to super low)...Once in 10 years...we have seen in 1998, 2008, and now 2020.

The recovery surely not smooth sailing...infact there are bumps, and bumpy rides will kick out those weak holder and weak believers...That is why, most people missed 2008, 1998 crisis and opportunty....But when we look back, the crisis, and opportunty also disappearing, without most of people awareness...

I believe the same bound to happen for this round of crisis. It will be over sooner than everybody believe...

That is why I think the believe in Buffett famous quote is important:

For fundamentally strong undervalued blue chips, "buy during market fear, sell when market too hot"

Let's capitalize this round of economy crisis, from the share market, 10 years cycle.

@choysun. Good to know that you have a PhD too. Mine in Engineering & Tech, from overseas, yours in which field?

Actually I think the global market will rebound sooner than expected, and will catch all in surprise for market recover...I am expecting the efficacy data on mass scale vaccination to out in few weeks time...

If the vaccines do help as shown by the data, I think market will go really really bull and the gaming, tourism, etc stocks will go up fast, out from majority who are still in fear...

My experiences tell me...The stocks are always against majority wish...

I will hold still for my positions...and if it go low to rm 2.3++, buy some, and if go even lower, buy more.

US and UK and Europe are being worst hit right now, yes, but I think they will overcome this sooner than everyone else...as vaccine roll out are actively being executed.

I believe Genm/Genting investment in NewYork, UK will bring very good profit at year 2021/beginning 2022 onwards....

@adamwarlock.

I bought a few lot TopGlove@5.58, and i am already targetting to sell at rm 6++.I think the news on 15% dividend (annual)on next three Quarters should sustain the share price of Top Glove. But I do not intend to keep after first Q..either sell before Ex-date or after taking dividend.

Actualy I have another thoughts and opinion on Genm and Genting near future prospects.

And I share it here honestly and no hiding agenda to buy call and sell calls.

What I think on Covid Pandemic...In my opinion, you can disagree...
Pandemic will fade soon or later, SARS, H1NC, etc..,

The fact is vacciniations started in many countries...first dose already started, second dose may be started too. The efficacy will take few weeks to start effective. Based on early vaccination started in Dec20....We may be embracing some exciting news sometimes in February, where data on immunity of vaccinated population would be released.

And if the data released is promising enough, I am very sure market will react super bull. On the other hand, if data released show negativity, the market will doom.

And I m more to believe data will be promising, I am a scientist with PhD degree.
And if it does happen, I am convinced recovery stocks will go super bull, just like it happend in Sep/Oct2020 where Genm rose to 2.7, Genting rose to RM 4.8++

And I think the super bull news will come on vaccine with no expectation from majority market, and it will catch most peeple in huge surpise...This is because, stocks is always on all odds...

Just like Sep/Oct 2020, where all were pessimistic, out of sudden there was news on vaccine.


I am more into believe, the same thing may happen. and I am looking forward for data released on efficacy of first and second dose.

These are my two cents, not buy or sell call. Please do study and analysis on own. Risk is on our own.

@adamwarlock.

If you understand what this quote mean really"

Warren BUffett quote was meant for fundamental strong stock, undervalued blue chip stock due to sentiment, due to market panic because of pandemic or special incident which drag down the share price significantly.

And on the Top Glove: Yes, it applies also..there was market fear last 2 days where top glove dipped below rm 5.2 To be honest, I bought at rm 5.58. Now now it is rm 5.9. So the thoery proven to be right.

But if you study the Glove counters, all these are overbought in 2022 onwards when Cobid is expected to fade away... BUt in upcoming quarters there is still strong sale and increased glove price which lead to stronger net profit. And the Glove coujter was under panic sale last 2-3 days, and I bought some during market panic and it proof to be right.

I do not mean to promote glove counter. But i think can buy still at market fear e.g. rm 5.5..and sell at market high rm 6++....and my opinion, there is high chances the glove counters will retrieve towards the end of 2021 when market recover with Cobid near end...

This is again Warren Buffet thoery which support mostly fundamental strong, UNDERVALUED, OVERSOLD blue chip.

GIven the TOP GLOVE, my own opinion, it is fundamentally very strong, the high share price now match the current sale and profit, so when market fear, glove counters dip, I actually think can load some and I did it, and I think I will sell it at rm6++ coz I think towards the 2021 end, glove counters will retrieve.

Even when I applied Buffett thoery on glove counter, it worked for me and share price is RM 5.9 now.

Again, all above are my analysis and study, you do not have to agree with me. BUt I will insist for my strategy:

Buy/hold when market fear, sell when market too hot--For fundamental strong, oversold blue chips which is undervalued by market due to panic and sentiments.


Above serve for my own opinion, it does not represent sell calls or buy call, please do own analysis and invest on own risk. Take wise decisions.

I hope all of us make gains in share market for better life.

@adamwarlock...maybe you are right. But i do my own analysis and study...I will keep my holdings and average down the cost if it dips further...

One thing I always believe, qoute from Warren BUffet "buy when people fear, sell when people greedy".


It is a fear time now. If I can hold, I will hold during fear time and even buy some to average down the cost if the share dips further.

Actually hard to predict market bottom during volatile sentiments.

If cash out now, mostly making loss (I am one of these groups for GENM), and when to buy back? I do not know when is the bottom share price in upcoming weeks, so buy back at what values?

So if I can hold, I will hold still, and if I have buying power, I set a lower target price to buy back to average down the cost...It worked for me for GENM where there was rebound in GENM in Sep/Oct20.

If there is a Targeted CMCO, I think most likely will be selected CMCO in critical areas/districts, I think not gonna be nationwide as the economy price to pay is huge...

Just my two cents....let's analyze, make wise decision, and be rewarded soon...Lets hope the volatility will go soon with vaccinations.

Again risk on won, so make own decisions.

I could draw a analogy here...I think many people still holding at higher than current share price for GENM and GENTING.

Back in March Both dropped significantly...because people not expecting the Covid to surge and then later people have seen a strong rebound especially in Sep20, Oct20.

SO I bet those holding at higher than current share price for GENM and GENTING, i do not think many will sell now at loss, to catch the unknown rm 2 (GENM) and RM 3(GENTING)....knowing that share price rebound is a matter of time, just like it happened in last 2-3 months...Plus Vaccine roll out is anytime soon.

Now retailers are more prepared...knowing the GenM and GENTING rebound is a matter of time, I do not think many will cut loss to hope for unknown RM 2 to buy back....

Plus vaccine roll out anytime now...

And Many countries started vaccination, and if the result on efficacy on mass scale vaccination out with very positive data, I bet and I think genm and genting will rebound very strong.

My two cents...study on your own and do own analysis...risk on own.