The only time this place will be peaceful is BWC, Investo, Supermx8, merck all stop posting accusations against each other or accuse other spamming PERIOD.

BWC,

Really? You mean yourself included or just other people mentioned in your latest posting above? Please don't be like kettle calls pot black.


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05/12/2016 10:43
BWC,

I don't find issue with Whey Whey and hellow123 posting below because 1) they don't advocate sell or buy call directly. 2) They just reminding ppl to look and digest ALL available info/data and make a wise decision / do your own homework before YOU decide on your own whether to buy or sell. What is wrong is that?

Have you tried to make i3 a better place for everyone? Do you know what is considered neutral postings and open intellectual discussions instead of bashing ppl or accusing ppl everyday with hidden agenda etc?

Can BWC, Investo, Supermx8/2, merck, and anyone here to objectively openly discuss if Whey Whey and hellow123 comments below indirectly asking ppl to look at other factors or other ppl hidden agenda as well and then decide for your own-self to buy or sell or not?

I have written what I think ppl can benefit from i3 below and how we can make i3 a better place in below blog. Do you dare to discuss intellectually and objectively what is considered neutral posting?


http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/MeathereMain/

Posted by Whey Whey > Dec 3, 2016 12:42 PM | Report Abuse
@red_85 How you know it will dropped below 2? How you so sure it wont went up? While i appreciate your analyst but i dont think is right to ask people to sell or buy. Share your thought and opinion and retailers will digest it and make their own call, either buy or sell. Anyway that is their own money and they should do their homework before invest. Invest with your own risk. Just my 2cent. Thanks. :)

Posted by helloworld123 > Dec 3, 2016 03:38 PM | Report Abuse
naysayers will always use CURRENT high oil price and CURRENT strong US dollar in hope of driving down airasia price. they will never tell you airasia has HEDGING strategies in place for both future oil prices as well as US dollars. one thing is for sure. they still love airasia albeit at a lower price. that's their "evil" plan

BWC,

I don't find issue with Whey Whey and hellow123 posting below because 1) they don't advocate sell or buy call directly. 2) They just reminding ppl to look and digest ALL available info/data and make a wise decision / do your own homework before YOU decide on your own whether to buy or sell. What is wrong is that?

Have you tried to make i3 a better place for everyone? Do you know what is considered neutral postings and open intellectual discussions instead of bashing ppl or accusing ppl everyday with hidden agenda etc?

Can BWC, Investo, Supermx8/2, merck, and anyone here to objectively openly discuss if Whey Whey and hellow123 comments below indirectly asking ppl to look at other factors or other ppl hidden agenda as well and then decide for your own-self to buy or sell or not?

I have written what I think ppl can benefit from i3 below and how we can make i3 a better place in below blog. Do you dare to discuss intellectually and objectively what is considered neutral posting?


http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/MeathereMain/

Posted by Whey Whey > Dec 3, 2016 12:42 PM | Report Abuse
@red_85 How you know it will dropped below 2? How you so sure it wont went up? While i appreciate your analyst but i dont think is right to ask people to sell or buy. Share your thought and opinion and retailers will digest it and make their own call, either buy or sell. Anyway that is their own money and they should do their homework before invest. Invest with your own risk. Just my 2cent. Thanks. :)

Posted by helloworld123 > Dec 3, 2016 03:38 PM | Report Abuse
naysayers will always use CURRENT high oil price and CURRENT strong US dollar in hope of driving down airasia price. they will never tell you airasia has HEDGING strategies in place for both future oil prices as well as US dollars. one thing is for sure. they still love airasia albeit at a lower price. that's their "evil" plan

Let the attacked count starts:

>>> BWC/Investo vs Supermx8/merck: 1

>>> BWC/Investo/Supermx8/merck vs others: 1

BuyWithConviction Yawn....this is too easy. Hehe

Posted by Investo > Dec 2, 2016 07:44 AM | Report Abuse

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I think many ppl here will agree that everyday all these groups below are the one making this thread toxic by attacking among themselves and with other forumers:

1) BWC/Investo

2) Supermx8/merck.

Since cruger12345 who tried to rational with them but got attacked instead and gave-up, we will see who is their next target and in the meantime these 2 groups will fight among themselves.

Lets everyone be the judge here by looking at the attack counters above.

Let the attacked count starts:

>>> BWC/Investo vs Supermx8/merck: 0

>>> BWC/Investo/Supermx8/merck vs others: 0


I think many ppl here will agree that everyday all these groups below are the one making this thread toxic by attacking among themselves and with other forumers:

1) BWC/Investo

2) Supermx8/merck.

Since cruger12345 who tried to rational with them but got attacked instead and gave-up, we will see who is their next target and in the meantime these 2 groups will fight among themselves.

Lets everyone be the judge here by looking at the attack counters above.

Of course Calvin said no need to disclose because anything he said will get him caught with his pants down:

Pants down scenario 1: >>> if he truly follow what he preached/promoted himself he truly at loss as per my my below illustration scenarios below which is shameful.

Pants down scenario 2: >>> if he said he not making a loss from DRB because all those articles he wrote since October is to get newbies to buy so he can offload to them; then Calvin is just a con-man despised by all.

Say anything in between also cannot because it will still shows proof he is wrong, he bluffing, etc.....

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Stock: [DRBHCOM]: DRB-HICOM BHD

Dec 1, 2016 12:36 PM | Report Abuse

So in conclusion if I buy say yesterday, I need it to go up to around 1.50 in order to break even all the 3-4 round of losses including transaction fees.....


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Dec 1, 2016 12:28 PM | Report Abuse

Understand you can't predict the future price 100% to be fair..BUT,.....so let me give you my illustrations.

>> If someone enter around 1.42 at the time you promoted, by the time it downed 8-10%, prudent investors should already cut loss ---> so you lost money - ok, fair to say in investing sure got win n lose


>> throughout early November Calvin still continue to promote; if someone enter around 1.20 when Calvin wrote below article to promote, down another 8-10%, so cut lost AGAIN - ok, still fair?

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/108158.jsp


>> on 24 Nov, even so bearish Calvin still promote with below article, the price closed at 1.10, down 8-10% again to current price, so cut lost AGAIN - you think investors print money? how to enter again? within 1 month cut lost 3 times.....

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/109728.jsp


>> Now you say follow Calvin again.....not to be rude or disrespectful to anyone here ..but the investors who still believe in you are stupid or the one recommended just got it wrong, again, n again, n again?

But Calvin.....lets revisit this postings and continue our sharing when it reach 1.50 ok.....time will tell.....good day.

So in conclusion if I buy say yesterday, I need it to go up to around 1.50 in order to break even all the 3-4 round of losses including transaction fees.....

Understand you can't predict the future price 100% to be fair..BUT,.....so let me give you my illustrations.

>> If someone enter around 1.42 at the time you promoted, by the time it downed 8-10%, prudent investors should already cut loss ---> so you lost money - ok, fair to say in investing sure got win n lose


>> throughout early November Calvin still continue to promote; if someone enter around 1.20 when Calvin wrote below article to promote, down another 8-10%, so cut lost AGAIN - ok, still fair?

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/108158.jsp


>> on 24 Nov, even so bearish Calvin still promote with below article, the price closed at 1.10, down 8-10% again to current price, so cut lost AGAIN - you think investors print money? how to enter again? within 1 month cut lost 3 times.....

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/109728.jsp


>> Now you say follow Calvin again.....not to be rude or disrespectful to anyone here ..but the investors who still believe in you are stupid or the one recommended just got it wrong, again, n again, n again?

Calvin,

Can you explain why you still bulish with DRB? On Oct 25 you wrote in below article & I quote you:

'Calvin Has A Target Price of Rm2.80 for DRBHICOM In One Year's Time. This is based on One Third The Share Price of POS Malaysia. So From Rm1.42 Calvin Expects DRB To Double in Price!'

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/107213.jsp

But since that day till now dropped over 30%

The moral of the story; sometimes we complaint lack of revenue details or revenue items breakdown, but when there are breakdown details some ppl failed to compare correctly with other data. Even if someone compared the total net profit e.g 3Q16 is 378m, some will still failed to compare correctly.

You get what I mean right? Need to do some re-visit, re-evaluate my risk appetite. Guess the jury is still out than.

Hi shrobin,

Yes, I still have. Started before 16Q1 result so now all these ppl like cry babies, shout end-of-the- world here n there. I am like for real? I know my avg price, my cut lost level, so I am still fine while waiting for the fat lady to sing. But then is good to check up on new developments and changes that may change 'smooth flying' to encounter a freak storm ahead before reaching the destination.

But now seem like the destination may actually take longer to reach and TF may feel like, hey what the heck, let me fly you all to Hawaii instead of Gold Coast - is risky since I am not sure I have enough fuel to get to Hawaii, but if we make it, is one heck of a holiday upgrade dudes -

The Genting Group made 577m vs AA 354m; not too shabby indeed. Some ppl even also like to 'gamble' in loss making companies....how you explain that? At least this 'jaguh kampung' has visions to expand and so far has made big strides towards that goal.....

I guess it will be something like taking a huge calculated business risk, either you pull it off nicely and become the giant in the industry and compete in the international arena or if not pray at least you still can remain the 'jaguh kampung' and wait for the next fight.

shrobin,

Many experts in the opinion the aviation industry moving forward will face stiffer competitions and likely thinning profit margin and the AAC contribution ratio against the rest of airline business seems very significant. If TF other plans like the academy IPO, digitization efforts, etc will really move AA up to the next level and able to sustain AA as the industry leader than by all means disposing AAC will be like 1 stone to kill 2 birds (lowered gearing and use the proceed to create growth & sustainability)

But....But in the corporate world, we can find many companies that have good balance sheet; but that do not means these companies are always the top leaders or out perform in their industry or always miles ahead of their competitors.

Shrobin,

So is it correct to say that the golden goose is also the secret weapon. If it is 'sold'; TF will need to use the proceed to create another so called weapon/golden goose otherwise he know he will not going to enjoy the edge anymore against his competitors?

So the million dollar question is can he create or find a more superior upgraded mother-of-all mother of weapon/golden goose catalyst or is the end of AA glory days are numbered?

"I will only die once, and I will die with my own glory way with my own pride intact" -anonymous

Have you all wonder, the revenue from sale of tickets, additional baggage, meals, etc a substantial portion may come from advance purchases during promo sale period that could be as early as previous 1-3 quarters. Hence revenue captured in current quarter may not necessary 100% translated into airport traffic in this school holiday period alone.

If someone shared their insight or evaluation neutrally; I don't see any reason to bash or label the poster. If anyone disagree with the poster's evaluation or info, then by all means post your comments and provide your reasons why you think otherwise. That is what constructive discussions and forum like i3 for.

Good sharing.

All in all, we have to see how 16Q3 result stack up to current local n global sentiments and play. Some will play wait and see game till the result, while others expect the 'big mama' sale to be the pivotal turning point.

malaysiaku,

I you follow the history, for example in AA/AAX at one time ppl think the the jet fuel/brent crude price up will destroy AA/AAX, then they shift to Zika scare, Brexit, US presidential election, and now forex. Yes, these factors to a certain degree affect this counter BUT what I don't get it or do not agree is some rumour mongers here play up those factors out of proposition completely.

Curious2,

Indeed and you can see a lot of other ppl responses to his postings recently also think is not completely neutral, and skewed info like I responded in my blog. Anyway is good to see different opinions because from there we can discover additional info more details about the subject matter. The point is agree to disagree and not to take it personally.

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/MeathereMain/108751.jsp

For me I normally comments on other ppl's blogs, articles or write-ups where I see everyone can share their opinions and brainstorming constructively as everyday I see still have ppl share good number of new write-ups.

Agreed, many ppl have left this forum including myself to share elsewhere on AA/AAX. Too toxic here.

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/bbcstock/109163.jsp

Did I mentioned Mr. Teh don't reply to feedback on his sharing? Bet you born end of these songs' selection decade to mid 90's where as Mr Teh should be around 20 years your senior. So is Mr. Teh to you.

Cheers.

To pinpoint on any 1 factor alone like erosion of MYD against USD for AA/AAX total investment strategy play is more on the extreme side. Look for more inclusive outlook and factors as I mentioned earlier. The dust may not have fully settled yet and the bigger overall outlook picture still not in 20/20 view yet perhaps? (Although I doubt in investing one can achieve 20/20 vision outlook completely)

Institution players and foreign players have their reasons to shift their portfolio and hedge their risks according to market sentiments so it is not wrong for some retail investors to play along their move as well.

The knee-jerk reaction will even out eventually because retailers investors buy/selling is only a smaller proportion of the total investors volume. Secondly AA/AAX income is not derive from MYR denomination only. Thirdly, Yes, long term lower MYR has long term effects on the company as well, and the mgt will need to adjust their operation framework, policy, and strategy accordingly like further hedging on forex if they foresee further erosion of MYD in 6 months to 1 year time.

As long as the fundamental of the company is intact and strong and the demand is there; the spike down and up will eventually smooth-en out from all the initial disruptive reactions. In between those periods there will always have investors/sifus/gurus to have different opinion whether is good time to buy/hold/sell or wait out for better entry time. Is just a matter of differing investing opinions on the degree negative/positive effects, profitability, and sustainability moving forward.

Another thing is macro factors like US president change, international trade policy change or forex factors are apply or will be faced by every company or by the industry, and/or country.

Icon,

From what I see from export stocks (value + growth) stocks combination in 1st year to growth stock of AA in 2nd year. For 2017 is another mix bag of value & growth stocks.

What I still like in the 2017 selections for the like of - Geshen, Hevea, Jayatiasa, Latitud, Poh Huat, Prolexus, Supermax, Thong Guan, WTK - there still have the basis for a good company such as values of consistent operations, good returns on capital and a pretty healthy balance sheet.

I also believe no matter who is the US president or how radical he/she is, if a company continuously derive intrinsic value from their ability to generate profit and proven consistently to be able deliver healthy earnings is a safe bet. The macro and external factors like change in tariff, demand, forex, and trade policy are consider as bonus advantages or disadvantages to a company.

Btw - since your 2017 is a mix bag of selection between value & growth stocks, guess it is covered in both ways since value stocks tend to outperform during economic growth period while growth stocks perform better in general when the economy turn to weaker. Unless anyone got a working crystal ball to tell what lies in the future, I am all ear for it.

Good sharing, hope for more constructive inputs and brainstoriming ideas everyone.

Cheers.

Curious2 and CharlesT,

Below is my take:

Mr. CalvinTanEng, Mr. KYY, Mr Teh,

1) Mr. CalvinTanEng, Mr. KYY, & Mr Teh, all 3 do directly promote buy/sell call on counters - They can instead share more details on how they come to the conclusion, assessment, evaluation to open up discussion and exchange of opinions between readers and writer like I mentioned in my post response on 14/11/2016 14:22.

2) Mr. CalvinTanEng, & Mr. KYY do provide the rationale or their reasoning and assessments as to why the counter, trend, industry and/or other reason the company can perform or affect future earning but I find some to be have skewed info, left out, purposely less emphasis given for certain factors and downplayed some reason. Basically readers needs to do a lot of filtering and do own counter-check or homework. Nevertheless they do shared some valuable stock picking methodology, trend/material change, demand/supply effects change, property market/area potentials that can open up for discussion.

3) Mr Teh postings sometimes totally not related to financial or investments topic at all like sharing music or MV or just share how he spend time for the day. If he share about financial or investments topic, I found it he has difficulty in trying to articulate in writing as to his objective or purpose for the sharing. What is he trying to convey, what is his argument or reasoning for it? What is the theory behind it, is it practical? When I read his postings I ask myself all these to see if I actually missing out his points.

3) Mr. KYY blog/article has no feedback option so is one way street sharing - that defy the purpose of open discussion, & brainstorming option.

4) Mr Teh never response or feedback after posting so this also defy the purpose.

5) Mr. CalvinTanEng response but sometimes he can be quite defensive, agitated (by readers nasty/not so valid response?) hence if in a good mood he will response with more details and or further clarify readers questions.

So to sum up, ALL three of them if I were to give a rating BASE ON my wish for a better i3investor.com environment criteria is 3 stars with 5 stars being the best fit and 1 start the least fit.

P/s - Mr. CalvinTanEng, Mr. KYY, & Mr Teh, to continue to be constructive, there is no need to cherry picking as is my personal take on the overall since readers asked how I think against the points in the wish for a better i3investor environments. Thank you.


Cheers

There are many ways of sharing of how one think about certain stock counters WITHOUT promoting and or construed as a buy/sell call.

For example writer can instead share:

1) How he/she COME TO CONCLUSION that certain industry/theme or stock counter can benefit from global policy change, trade agreement change, tariff change, forex, demand/supply, trend, technology change, local government policy change, political climate/sentiments factors, environments factors or other news.

2) Base on the previous financial reports results why and how he/she think the company can move further, can sustain or not, what seem not correct, possible cover-up, play around the figures, using accounting/reporting loopholes or manipulations.

3) How can, why, when a company change of top management team/style, venture into new business, stock exercise, bonus issue, M&A change, company direction can change the company's future profitability and performance.

The main thing is to open up discussion or sharing on why, how, when any change in above or how the writer come to certain conclusion or outcome for the company's profitability or performance. Is not about I am so and so, so when I say this counter will go up, it will go up.

It is up to the readers to asses the writer reasoning, evaluate, counter check or in i3 people like to say do your own homework, or try the tool/ services themselves, or to buy/sell the counter.

Unfair,

To be fair to below point I have to to ask for your clarification since I have absolute no idea what you are referring to 1) what posts, 2) what is my counter that I bother? Can you pls clarify?


4) Provide feedback on readers' suggestions, opinions, questions, etc

The above blog is at:

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/MeathereMain/108751.jsp

I will share this in my blog so that more ppl can input their suggestions/feedback

To be fair, Teh did not say exactly to buy ALL the stocks he mentioned in the article NOW or from the 52 weeks low screener list. In fact for example Armada he mentioned in his opinion is going new low & to avoid. (I am arguing his opinion on this will be correct or not).

When we read something we tend to jump to conclusion without taking the details or actually what the writer wants to convey or share. For example this article I would say the key word and sentence are 'NOW' and 'ALL stock the stock......'Sometimes I also tend to have this tendency.

Anyway, without putting words or assume what Teh intention or what he really wants to achieve in this sharing I just like to share the below of my opinions and suggestions in general on this matter (recently i3 posting in other articles and blog discussion made me realized that the objective for i3 sharing should be about sharing info, trigger open discussion, and BRAINSTORMING type of posts to share and open discussion about finance matters, good investing METHODOLOGY or new methods, tools, new opportunity, new services available out in the market, etc and NOT and I repeat NOT about what counters one is holding, plan to buy/promoting the counters.


For blog/writer to:

1) Try to be more specific or clearly state their intention/objective of the article whether to share an investing/financial methodology, service, tools, etc.

2) What other think about this methodology, service, tools - in term of feasibility, how and when best to apply it, other better choices available, cost, effectiveness, how to be benefit the most from it, etc.

3) Leave out the ' I will buy/sell/promote of counter names - the readers can evaluate or try themselves from the methodology, tools, services.

4) Provide feedback on readers' suggestions, opinions, questions, etc.


For reader to:

1) Be open minded and be objective on the discussion/article.

2) Don't be too judgemental or jump to conclusion too fast. Look at the bigger picture.

3) Give constructive, useful feedback, share your own experience or opinions/suggestions with the methodology, tools, or services if you have.

I understand not all of us are good to articulate or put into writing, and or able to spend too much time but we all can try to start with whatever we can to improve further.

Cheers.

Mango Juice, totally agree with you on 'stick to what work best for YOU'; in this case including the every 4 years 'election play' routines - the key word here is 'You'...:)

Cheers

To be honest this should not be about 'election stocks play' or trading strategy and selection per se in my opinion, Why, simply because if the election is later part of next year or the maximum time limit allowed is on or before 24 August 2018; we are looking at maximum of up to 7 quarterly results. Between that time anything can happen base on the performances, other sentiments and factors.

However, if the election is set at xx.xx.xxxx date, which is say 3 to 6 months from now, then my investment strategy will likely to include 'election stocks play' list. For now I still think the time tested FA, industry theme play, global business sentiments, current demand, forex factors,TA, and last but not least the quarterly result will be the better indicators for now instead of so called 'election stocks play' list criteria.

M'sia boleh!!! Broke 2 support levels dy. See if the 1620-1622 support level 3 can hold or not.

Trump is a lot of things. He is good at capturing ppl's heart, sentiments, concerns, that is how he is able win's the election with the tag 'make America great again' with his border control, immigration policy, fight against radicalism/IS, economy/trade protectionism policy, etc. He can be unpredictable and he has his unorthodox way of doing things but at the same time he is also tie to his campaign promises, house & senate influences as well. And above all he is also a businessman that is pragmatic and getting problems solved one way or another with the most win-win situation scenarios hence moving forward some of his radical decisions/promises will be either watered down, change for the better, and/or more 'international friendly'. He needs the rest of world as much as the rest of the world like to have US as market share, buyer, to balance other superpowers, the wealth, the technology capability and to certain extend as world police.

smartly, every company also can have future prospects; so is not really a good indicator in general for any counter. For Jay, he emphasized more on CONFIRMED orderbook. LOA has time limit and/or Vivocom may not successfully get the projects. In a nutshell; if comparing company A, B, and C, than compare with reliable indicators such as CONFIRMED orderbook only for all A, B, and C company. Unless if you said you have crystal ball to see A, but no crystal ball for B and C company, than I rest my case.

TF got a lot of pedals to press including brake pedal.....pedal to expand routes = new long-haul destinations in Europe, the United States and Africa; AAC pedal; PP pedal, brake pedal = TATA group fraud controversy raised by sacked Cyrus Mistry

When no ppl 'cheer-leading' and 'drumming' for a counter is sign something is brewing quietly. When is ping ping piang piang already; then one should be on super alert mode for any exit signs.

Thanks but no thanks Merck.

What we really would appreciate is BWC/Investo to leave this forum so that supermx8 = Merck and all same person with different IDs also can please leave so that the rest can have peace of mind. Thank you.

supermx8,

You called Lulu La fraudster base on what? From your comments history I think everyone will agree that you are the one with vengeance, sour grape, hatred and talk too much rubbish and repeat the same nonsense.

Budget announcement, some big players stay sideline

Unbelievable these ppl no shame in asking ppl to feed them by spoon. If no initiative, no passion in stock mkt then don't trade. Why ppl want purposely go find it n post if the info is available and you can look for it.

Btw: I have post the info before.

Why don't you call the CEO then...customer service may not know wakaka

Joke of the year....

Yesterday close 0.400; today's intraday range 0.400-0.405 ......standard 1 also know

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UniC Posted by tshu99 > Oct 19, 2016 08:23 PM | Report Abuse

.....today crash landing again at 40c and all disappear. normal la. i3
19/10/2016 20:48