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2016-04-29 15:37 | Report Abuse

paperplane, where is the limit up you mentioned about?

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2016-04-29 15:17 | Report Abuse

haha, duit, it's funny, thank you.

Stock

2016-04-29 15:16 | Report Abuse

Playing goreng stock must act fast and must apply cut loss strategy, don't try to hope, once apply then never look back.

Those long time traders all know this.

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2016-04-29 15:11 | Report Abuse

Where is paperplane now? He said limit up this afternoon just now.

Stock

2016-04-29 15:11 | Report Abuse

It's just unbelievable, still got so many people believing paperplane, the stock has been dropping from RM1.43 to RM0.90 now, still not wake up?

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2016-04-29 02:31 | Report Abuse

Paperplane, you have been acting like financial king & investment GOD everywhere in i3, now you can't even answer my simple questions!!!

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2016-04-29 02:30 | Report Abuse

2 days & you failed to answer such simple question, paperplane, that's your integrity!

Lousy & useless, talk big & empty.

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2016-04-29 02:28 | Report Abuse

Paperplane, just answer my simple questions.

At price of RM1.02, the market capitalisation of SGB is already RM107 million.

Assuming PE 5 for small time developer, you need NET PROFIT RM21.3 million to support current price!!!

SGB has been making losses since its listing many years ago & last year total revenue was just RM23mil!!! http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/fin/7165.jsp

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

News & Blogs

2016-04-29 02:27 | Report Abuse

paperplane, all you know is just NEWS & HOPES, what do you know about figures & financial?

Your SGB is the best, drop from RM1.43 to RM1.02 in just 4 days & yet you keep asking people to buy & go to holland together.

At price of RM1.02, the market capitalisation of SGB is already RM107 million.

Assuming PE 5 for small time developer, you need NET PROFIT RM21.3 million to support current price!!!

SGB has been making losses since its listing many years ago & last year total revenue was just RM23mil!!! http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/fin/7165.jsp

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

You have been avoiding answering the simple question.

Stock

2016-04-28 20:58 | Report Abuse

Everyone must learn from paperplane how to live like normal if you have stock up millions of this kind bleeding goreng stock.

See what you want to see AND talk what you want to talk, anything else just pretend don't know.

Stock

2016-04-28 20:40 | Report Abuse

Paperplane, why not you just take a challenge to answer my questions below, don't just give some childish answers.

At price of RM1.02, the market capitalisation of SGB is already RM107 million.

Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM21.3 million to support current price!!!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

Stock

2016-04-28 20:38 | Report Abuse

Furthermore, the financial projections given by you based on news does not justify the current stock price.

Stock

2016-04-28 20:37 | Report Abuse

I don't care if it is up or down tomorrow, I care about your basis of calling this lousy stock, paperplane.

You simply don't have no answer because all you know is purely NEWS & HOPES.

Stock

2016-04-28 20:34 | Report Abuse

When you bully icon8888 for his unfortunate returns of stock pick, you never thought of give a chance for night still young.

Now you use this excuse trying to cover your bad investment choice?

Stock

2016-04-28 20:32 | Report Abuse

With shareholders' fund of RM37mil & net cash in hand of RM5.2million, you are expecting RM21.3mil profit? Are you insane, paperplane?

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2016-04-28 20:28 | Report Abuse

paperplane, you have no answer for my questions because you have no idea at all, all you know is NEWS & HOPES.

At price of RM1.02, the market capitalisation of SGB is already RM107 million.

Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM21.3 million to support current price!!!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

Stock

2016-04-28 20:20 | Report Abuse

All mother share, PA or WA are bleeding like falling paperplane & yet paperplane still ask to buy?

Where is your sense of human being?

Stock

2016-04-28 20:19 | Report Abuse

This paperplane crazy already, lose money like hell but yet still feel so excited.

He prove to be insane & feel nothing for your loss. He cares his own pride, paperpride.

Stock

2016-04-28 17:12 | Report Abuse

It proves I am right, paperplane feel nothing, judged yourself if you still want to believe him.

If you still want to believe this kind of childish people.
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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 04:55 PM | Report Abuse

I will keep avg down until mother drop balik 0.60!!

How? I got money, you chui meh

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2016-04-28 16:40 | Report Abuse

This guy is crazy, can't answer simple question & keep bullshit here.

Paperplane, you are lying, you sapu 2 mil, not 1mil.
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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 04:37 PM | Report Abuse

I just sapu another 1mil x0.065 PA, hahaha

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2016-04-28 16:35 | Report Abuse

To be fair to superman sifu, when he wrote about Pensonic, the price was RM0.655, now the price is RM0.65.

Pensonic is still strong but just does not meet the expectation of profit calculated based on previous quarters.

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2016-04-28 16:19 | Report Abuse

This guy crazy already, keep asking people buying falling stocks

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2016-04-28 16:11 | Report Abuse

Paperplane, open your big eyes to see this:

ASSUMPTION 1 = ALL SOLD OUT
ASSUMPTION 2 = yield 7%
ASSUMPTION 3 = All construction finished in 3 years!!!

You don't build & finish within ONE year!!!

Each year of maximum profit you can have is:

RM25.6mil /3 = RM8.5million

Now SGB's market capitalisation is more than RM100million!!!

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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 02:13 PM | Report Abuse

1.Southern City Phase 1B 18-storey apartment in Kemaman valued at RM75mil.
2.RM147mil with JVM for the development of Phase 2 of the Southern City project.
3.
In this connection, kindly furnish Bursa Securities with the following additional information for public release:-
1.Basis and justification in deriving at the purchase consideration of RM3.5 million.
2.Details of the Cadangan Pembangunan Program Perumahan Penjawat Awam 1 Malaysia 1-Pelangi @Sentul project including but not limited to the following information:
The purchase consideration of RM3.5 million was arrived at after negotiations with the Potential Vendors taking into consideration the following:-
1.the costs and expenses incurred by the Potential Vendors prior to obtaining the Letter of Award; and
2.the Letter of Award for the Development Project in KISB which accounts for a premium to the acquisition price.
25unitsx90,000+113x150,000+112*240,000+205*480,000=144.48mil

POTENTIAL COMING:
PRIMA
“We are now looking to buy small pockets of land where we would like to develop such similar developments.” Kuan adds that Spring Gallery was also open to participating in government linked projects, for example some of the affordable home projects.

TOTAL GDV=75+147+144=366mil. assume 7% profit margin=RM25.6mil

Stock

2016-04-28 16:04 | Report Abuse

That's paperplane, the greatest liar ever in i3.

When price up, he rush to take all credit
When price down, he feel nothing, pretending not his business

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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 04:02 PM | Report Abuse

fly horland, yes

Stock

2016-04-28 12:36 | Report Abuse

And you don't get all kind of details about PA from paperplane, until someone pointed out, that's how he is, who claims to be billion dollar fund manager.

Stock

2016-04-28 11:55 | Report Abuse

Yes, that's wrong. Sorry for confusing.

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Tommy Lee So moneysifu, below statement is wrong?

You need to have 10 SGB-PA + RM0.60 = 1 SGB share
As said, RM0.65 + RM0.60 = RM1.26, more than what SGB share now = RM1.06
28/04/2016 11:54

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2016-04-28 11:53 | Report Abuse

If I made mistake, I apology, nothing to hide.

Stock

2016-04-28 11:52 | Report Abuse

I apology for wrong info given earlier, please see below:

the Conversion Ratio and Coversion Price of the ICPS which have been fixed at either ten (10) ICPS to be converted into one (1) SGB share or a combination of one (1) and RM0.54 in cash for one (1) SGB Share.

Item 2.1 on page 5:
http://disclosure.bursamalaysia.com/FileAccess/apbursaweb/download?id=173899&name=EA_DS_ATTACHMENTS

Stock

2016-04-28 11:32 | Report Abuse

Duit, I got it, I like the humor, thank you :)

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2016-04-28 11:28 | Report Abuse

He is liar, when he can't answer a simple question, he start behave like a child.

When SGB approaching RM1.43, he is asking people to sai lang & ALL IN, now price drop until RM1.07, he still insist good time to buy.

He just can't answer my simple question below:


At price of RM1.17, the market capitalisation of SGB is already at RM122 million.

Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM24.5 million to support current price!!!

The expected profit itself is already more than the revenue of last year's audited account!!!


How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

That's the answers he gave.
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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
I value -100000000,deficit

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:39 AM | Report Abuse
U value how much? Moneyidiotsofu?
-2000000000000000000?
Or -80000000000000ⁿ000000000000000000000000000000000000???

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:40 AM | Report Abuse
Just tell me,iinsert any TP u like!

Stock

2016-04-28 11:24 | Report Abuse

If you think paperplane can be trusted, better think twice, see his integrity here:

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/800001412.jsp

Stock

2016-04-28 11:10 | Report Abuse

And please see paperplane's integrity below:

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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
I value -100000000,deficit

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:39 AM | Report Abuse
U value how much? Moneyidiotsofu?
-2000000000000000000?
Or -80000000000000ⁿ000000000000000000000000000000000000???

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:40 AM | Report Abuse
Just tell me,iinsert any TP u like!

Stock

2016-04-28 11:08 | Report Abuse

Apology, duit, if that offended you.

But please see what paperplane has said for how much he is holding.

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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 09:23 AM | Report Abuse

15K in my pocket liao? See?

1mil , I am still holding!

Stock

2016-04-28 10:41 | Report Abuse

That's your integrity, paperplane, childish & useless

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2016-04-28 10:39 | Report Abuse

paperplane, you are asking everyone to ALL IN for SGB, please answer this, you have been avoiding answer this the whole yesterday until now.

At price of RM1.17, the market capitalisation of SGB is already RM122 million.

Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM24.5 million to support current price!!!

It's even more than revenue of the last year's audited account!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

Don't simply give childish answer, show your integrity.
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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
I value -100000000,deficit

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:39 AM | Report Abuse
U value how much? Moneyidiotsofu?
-2000000000000000000?
Or -80000000000000ⁿ000000000000000000000000000000000000???

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:40 AM | Report Abuse
Just tell me,iinsert any TP u like!

Stock

2016-04-28 10:38 | Report Abuse

paperplane, you are asking everyone to ALL IN for SGB, please answer this, you have been avoiding answer this the whole yesterday until now.

At price of RM1.17, the market capitalisation of SGB is already RM122 million.

Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM24.5 million to support current price!!!

It's even more than revenue of the last year's audited account!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

Don't simply give childish answer, show your integrity.
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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
I value -100000000,deficit

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:39 AM | Report Abuse
U value how much? Moneyidiotsofu?
-2000000000000000000?
Or -80000000000000ⁿ000000000000000000000000000000000000???

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:40 AM | Report Abuse
Just tell me,iinsert any TP u like!

Stock

2016-04-28 10:14 | Report Abuse

Dear all i3 members, please judge yourself on this, paperplane has stated very clear, he will sell to cash out when price is good.

He is going to throw his shares to you when price is up!

Asking you to buy so he can sell!

That's his integrity!
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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 09:45 AM | Report Abuse

sorry, busy looking at mkt now. If today WA can break 0.30 above, I will sell half to lock in profit.

Money loser sifu, you slowly lah asking your TP, P/E.

I sudah earn and lock in profit.

Stock

2016-04-28 10:13 | Report Abuse

Dear all i3 members, please judge yourself on this, paperplane has stated very clear, he will sell to cash out when price is good.

He is going to throw his shares to you when price is up!

Asking you to buy so he can sell!

That's his integrity!
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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 09:45 AM | Report Abuse

sorry, busy looking at mkt now. If today WA can break 0.30 above, I will sell half to lock in profit.

Money loser sifu, you slowly lah asking your TP, P/E.

I sudah earn and lock in profit.

Stock

2016-04-28 09:31 | Report Abuse

paperplane, you are asking everyone to ALL IN, please answer this, you have been avoiding answer this the whole yesterday.

At price of RM1.17, the market capitalisation of SGB is already RM122 million.
Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM24.5 million to support current price!!!

It's even more than revenue of the last year's audited account!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

Stock

2016-04-28 09:28 | Report Abuse

I think ktrader should know, why not share with us your calculation?

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2016-04-28 09:27 | Report Abuse

paperplane has always acting like investment GOD everywhere, but just can't answer a simple question.

If anyone know, please answer for him.

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2016-04-28 09:25 | Report Abuse

Why to get lost? I am asking a simple question that paperplane can't answer, how about you? ktrader?

At price of RM1.17, the market capitalisation of SGB is oledi RM122 million.
Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM24.5 million to support current price!!!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

Stock

2016-04-28 09:24 | Report Abuse

The expected profit is even more than the revenue of the latest audited accounts!

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2016-04-28 09:22 | Report Abuse

Paperplane, it's just a simple question.

At price of RM1.17, the market capitalisation of SGB is oledi RM122 million.

Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM24.5 million to support current price!!!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

Don't give childish answer, tell the truth.

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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
I value -100000000,deficit

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:39 AM | Report Abuse
U value how much? Moneyidiotsofu?
-2000000000000000000?
Or -80000000000000ⁿ000000000000000000000000000000000000???

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:40 AM | Report Abuse
Just tell me,iinsert any TP u like!

Stock

2016-04-28 01:15 | Report Abuse

Even tomorrow up also does not mean you are right, paperplane.

Also, if tomorrow down also not because of me, I am just a ikan bilis.

paperplane, you just simply can't answer!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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2016-04-28 01:13 | Report Abuse

Worse still, SGB has never registered any profits for all these years since its listing with Bursa. See yourself.
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/fin/7165.jsp

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2016-04-28 01:12 | Report Abuse

Worse still, SGB has never registered any profits for all these years since its listing with Bursa. See yourself.
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/fin/7165.jsp

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2016-04-28 01:11 | Report Abuse

以RM1.10的价钱,SGB的市价是一亿一千五百万。

同类型的发展商的PE ratio是介于4-5之间,假设PE ratio是五的话,SGB需要有净利润两千三百万来支持现在的价位!

Paperplane就是无法说出他对SGB合理价,期盼的净盈利还有未来PE ratio?

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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2016-04-28 01:11 | Report Abuse

How childish you are, paperplane, you just simply can't answer!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
I value -100000000,deficit

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:39 AM | Report Abuse
U value how much? Moneyidiotsofu?
-2000000000000000000?
Or -80000000000000ⁿ000000000000000000000000000000000000???

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:40 AM | Report Abuse
Just tell me,iinsert any TP u like!

Stock

2016-04-28 01:11 | Report Abuse

Paperplane, You are treating members of i3 as idiots all the time, thinking we all are just as junk, no need to give any financial projection & just keep shouting BUY BUY BUY ALL IN.

When price up, you take credit.
When price down, you feel nothing.