http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN18W02N

Exactly what i was saying earlier.

I dont really care what you do. And i dont care the price goes up or down tomorrow as both also i would like it. Im a fulltime trader, that is why im online alot and have time to comment here to pass time while working. If u are a fulltime trader youd understand that.

mancingbursa, I only have 1/3 units I want now at 3.05 avg. Im happy to collect all the way down as low as it wants to go. If you are right and it goes down tomorrow then I will add more but if you are wrong then you will get the karma you deserve I hope.

As I said earlier, to say that the Qatar issue will effect oil prices significantly is silly. See now oil reversed the gains already. Qatar is a small player in oil compared to other middle east producers. If anything, if they start pumping out of the OPEC deal then it may give other members and excuse to ignore the quotas and the production cut may be on wobbly legs. AA still on recovery mode. I suspect it will consolidate above 3.30 and 3.30 will act as a support in the near term, now there is slight profit taking at 3.30 from short term traders but shouldnt be hard to overcome.

I would say long term in stock market, its ppl like you who will pay supermx2

AA rise is in this 1-2 months is easy. AAC, record quarters, RM fundamentally up, oil fundamentally down. Only silly short term guys trying to time its small ups and downs will shout sure up or sure down.

Hope AA can be down tomorrow so I can top up more rounds but realistically if down will be very small. AA just starting this leg up, hard to go down significantly unless its a huge issue. Qatar issue on crude oil is extremely small as it is not a big producer and so any hope of crude jump because of this is wishful thinking.

After tomorrow no more warrant play should effect mother movement up to AAC announcement

oil going down, RM going up and AAC coming..AA fresh off selloff leg...you cant stop it rising..

Alot of short term money that pick up AA low 2.89-3.05 taking profit now..but trend is definitely up..

My target maintained at 3.75/3.80. AAC should be soon and expecting 0.60 divvy..

Top up some more @3.25 but just a small amount..

Uncle VT and hng both top up haha

Wah hng still very confident...top up...

Supermx2, where is my 2.89? Where is 2.50?

Wont happen la..ppl will make too much noise...

Drop abit on profit taking also you all goyang already? Better put your money in FD la if so scared...

Bjtoto going through a technological inflection point. Numbers game moving forward needs to be done online. People want to buy through app. Less ppl want to drive to an outlet and buy. They need to have the approval only can do this. If remain no online purchases then the illegal no. operator will get a bigger and bigger stake of the market until one day BJtoto revenue dwindle very very low..

Long way to go for HSL. Too early to buy. Capital wont appreciate much for next 3 months. If 1.50 I will start slowly buying in..

Leonardo, buy and sell stocks in the market should be based on your own research and consideration. From time to time you can consider what other ppl discuss and evaluate the facts based on your own thinking and understanding. Take what knowledge you can and make your own decisions. Dont make your investment buy and sell based on other ppl's word because if you make money you dont pay them anything and if you lose money, they wont lose anything either.

Hahaha supermx2, I enjoyed reading all the comments from all the members here about you. hahahaha

supermx2, whats important is not only to change with circumstances but to also not to be too fanatical about your point of view beyond reason without facts.

@RM Ive always rated AA as the best stock to keep long term...this round my target is RM3.8 but I will keep some post 3.80 for long term if I can collect enough...

hahaha supermx2 making jokes again. Where is 2.89? Where is 2.50 now?

I thought secrecy wait to buy at 2.50? Selling what now?

Short term to test 3.20

supermx2, where is my 2.89?

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/boeing-asean-needs-3860-new-jets-next-20-years

This is what I was talking about yesterday. Growth, growth, growth. Especially in Asean and AA knows this all too well. They have the advantage now in cost. They are making money and their cashflow is very strong. Their competitors are making losses trying to just stay in the game. So what do they do when cost is low and demand is rising like no tomorrow? Expand so that you are the largest and most extensive with the lowest cost. So for those who question the rapid expansion, as Ive always said, as the people who have data on these things, AA management is much more privy than us to what is the best strategy. They have reduced fleet in the past when they need to and they have expanded when they need to. Now they are expanding big and taking in huge amounts of planes and setting up subsidiaries left and right. Dont you think there is a reason? I stand by my opinion...in 10 years, you will look back and think you could own AA at RM3. This is an inflection point in aviation especially in Asean and Asia aviation. Even warren buffet sees it justifiable for the far more saturated and advanced market in the US which growth rate is nowhere close to Asean and Asia.

@sjwee, there is a very easy reason why the tube type train will not be able to be a substitute to airplanes. You can go and find out why. And it has nothing to do with technology or costing. Its not hard to research. As per entry barrier, its not a matter of technology in aviation rather cost competitiveness and know how. What do you think the 15 year war between MAS and AA was about? Why do u think AA has lowest cost in aviation? Why dont everyone just have same cost? Why does AA have the most extensive network in Asean? Why dont Vietjet, silk, SIA etc just do that? Why didnt SIA, MAS and the rest just make money like AA in the last quarter? Why is Malindo shifting to a full service carrier? The AA now and the AA the next 5 years wont even be the same...they will get stronger and more dominant. Thats what this inflection point is about and thats why they are capitalizing on this time to expand fleet and network to build the gap even bigger between the and the rest. And to discuss economic downturn vs passenger growth in developing markets like cambodia, vietnam etc is not even close...one is temporary, one is inevitable and irreversible.

The more I study AA, the more I want to invest. Its a huge opportunity for younger people to own such a company that in 10 years you will say to yourself 'I could have bought AA for RM3.0. I cant believe it" Why do I say this? In simple terms I can see AA already preparing for the future of airlines and giving themselves a big head-start ahead of their competitors and I think that their competitors may never be able to catch up.

I believe oil will remain low for a long time. Lately Ive been looking into technological advancements that will bring huge cost savings into tight oil production and deep sea oil production and I come to the conclusion that they already are at the point of bringing cost below $40 and this will go lower and lower. Maybe in 5 years it will be in $20s for cost which will tap into a huge amount of oil previously thought not viable or economical.

Secondly AA's drive to bring their cost lower and lower is far ahead of their competitors and the way they go about it is much more sophisticated because in TF they have a very technologically gifted and advanced thinking CEO. This is when you will realize that TF is invaluable to AA and the ppl around him that he hired is following his style.

Thirdly, they realize this inflection point and are ramping up network, fleet size and economies of scale. In time they will be so ahead in terms of fleet and cost to their competitors that trying to go up against AA will be a pointless exercise of money drain.

Given the capital intensive nature of airlines and the superiority margin that AA is building up, I believe that they will soon become untouchable in Asean and Asia. The only key risk in a larger perspective is major technological advancement in long distance traveling. Oil cost will be a thing of the past thanks to technological advancement in drilling unconventional oil reserves.

@sjwee3, timeframe wise of course need to see the nearest catalyst and degree of the catalyst to effect the stock price. In AA case it is the AAC sale pending in about 2-3 months for the announcement and which I believe the degree to effect the stock price is very strong. Of course nothing is 100% but I wouldnt say 50-50, more like 65-35 at this point in my opinion. If capital is an issue then of course you need to be more patient for the drop as deep as you can but at the same time on the contra is you risk missing out to the same degree.

Yes you are right but as long as you know how to buy in in proper way then the distribution cannot hurt you too much as your average will be good entry as long as the fundamental value of the stock is good and it is not overpriced like I believe AA is at the moment so chances of losing money is greatly mitigated. If you are talking about speculation type counter then chances of losing will rise in tandem with the high valuations of the stock price and/or the speculative level of the stock.

My opinion is it was a willing buyer and willing seller transacted about RM150mil worth of share at RM2.50. They should have a deal already struck and did it on market transaction. This means altho it was huge volume at all time low but someone bought in as well to the tune of RM150mil.

@sjwee3, what I mean is entry strategy need to be staggard as to high volatility stock. If shoot up then you have abit but if go down then you can average down more. Anyways I buy in another level at 2.98. I have 4 more rounds to go. Since it is oversold and under RM3 I decided to add one level.

Hit my price this day already. Im staying out tho...something happening there

Sorry I mean 2.50

I think got chance can hit 2.80..hng all in? Why all in now?

@sjwee3, when you know how to make it that if the stock goes down then you are happy and when it goes up then you are also happy then you know how to make money and not focus so much on just the chart.

Supermx2 come out here now! I want 50k units at 2.89. Where is it? What did you say all this while? Mana my 2.89? Mana?????

I will laugh all the way collecting even if it comes down to RM1. In the end I will sell and make money and laugh even harder. I will take the money and buy another condo.

No need 2.85. Supermx2 sell me 50000 units at 2.89, dont just talk.

i said to supermx2, he should put his energy into only beneficial things and focus on making money. Its not like the AA board is scared of waking up everyday and thinking "how will supermx2 influence our shares today?".

All this "trap" "pushdown" "run" type stuff is a clear indication and trait of a kid starting to play play with stock trading and thinks of themselves as warren buffet after 1 year of using their RM50k savings to punt with emotions.

2.89 pls. My next entry.

Feel so happy seeing it so cheap. Its just the trend la. It will trend lower with time and consolidate at some point before rebounding towards 2Q results or AAC announcement. Its a normal movement. The only thing to focus on is good entry and holding power. If you hold AA as a company and worry so much then you better not touch stocks la. Where can you find such a strong conpany with cash flow off the charts and such market dominance along with record earning years (which management guided so confidently) and crazy expansion to come and giving you special dividend commitments for the next 2- years? I repeat, if you hold this and worry then i think you better put money in FD.

Waiting for those margin players on the high volume days to sell. Good time for me to accumulate more is coming..

Thank you bro skng74, I just hoped that we can have more logical and factual discussions here. Not everyone has to agree with me and I'm not necessarily correct but as long as we talk based on facts and not just hurling crazy predictions then it will benefit everyone here and help everyone consider others point of view. Just for the record, I am still hoping to buy on weakness, just that I dont think it can go as low as last time anymore or be manipulated as violently at this point up to AAC unless EPF choose reduce alot more which I doubt because I believe AAC divvy is attractive to them. Post AAC diff issue...

Dont worry too much about short selling and push down la. The AAC deal is at a diff stage now compared to last quarters. That's a fact and common knowledge now. You can play more when the catalyst is far away but now its very common knowledge that it is down to last 2 bidders and the bankers and lawyers are working on it already. If you try to push down now, smart money will collect in a big away. The evidence is the buy % in all those days of the price going down is still very high even the panic selling was huge volume. Smart money was buying and the selling was from funds taking profit and panic selling from retailers and speculators that thought AAC divvy was gone which they didnt know what was going on.

Now that AAC is imminent its not so easy to press down and plus the share holding has entered a diff stage now. Alot of those that bought cheap under RM2 or RM2.50 has probably sold off. Its not easy for holders now to sell lower as their entry is higher. It may still go down but it needs a catalyst. With RM strengthening and oil stable post OPEC decision (which disappointed) there isnt any ammo for short sellers or operators to press down. So dont just think it will be the same as the previous time as factors have change greatly.

I am not trying to talk it up as personally I want to buy alot more and I want it to go as low as 2.50s for me to collect all my stages but Im just being realistic. I hate to see ppl simply say things like "sure go down like last time" or "operators will push it down" without discussing the mechanism of how such a thing may occur.

Its normal mike. There were alot of punters and early birds who bet on the steel sector recovery early on and bought cheap. They already have great profits in hand and so its normal for them to take profit. Just remember the sector now has a long way to go (3 years) of possible profitibility. As long as demand is there (mega projects locally) and global supply and demand is healthy (china output cuts) then average prices will remain stable. All that along with the import duties will ensure the local steel players have a good business climate for these 3 years and further than that hopefully better their competitive edge and output cost along the way. This is why i like lion as their margin is probably 2nd only to Ann Joo and they have more than 1 way to mitigate rising scrap prices. I still pick lion asthe stock is cheaper and I dont want to over extend capital in steel as altho eveything looks good now, it isnt as comfortable as I like. I expect lion to test RM1.50 then RM2.00 in this upcycle in the next year and half. Its a long game in my view so patience is needed.

The thing shareholders will be afraid every quarter is Parkson. Besides that it should do well as long as duty on imports is around..