Sometime their online booking pop up with an error number and ask you to call the call center to report the error...  really beh tahan.  haha.

talk2kpc, got it, another LCC can offer better price, service and comfort to travelers, not good meh? the other LCC no impact, sure boh ?

airasia call center, no money no talk.

Definition of rich depends on lifestyle :)

the bull and the bear are fighting. safer to bet on the horse. haha

19 Dec 2011 - YTL announced take-over YTL-Cement, offer 4.5, exchange approximately 3.17 YTL share

16 Apr 2012 - YTL-Cement delisted from KLSE

assume base on offer price 4.5, exclude dividend

as of today

total = 3170 x 1.80 = 5706
net = 5706 - 4500 = 1206

izit because of election ?

da vinci code. need key to break. :)

:)

haha. I promise myself never gamble again.. :(

my best record, lost 20k in 3 days in one of their casino. yet still need to spend few k to cover expenses for my family for time spend in their resort :(

Look like wake up already huh.. but the other one still sleeping.

If can move like this.. rm10 very soon liao. haha

Mat, ya this is a good counter, hopefully they will come back, but play careful because they are stronger.. :)

Ur all have higher risk appetite :)  portfolio adjusted and mentally prepared for election to come.. everyone is waiting... haha

thanks Namo. sold 60%, play 10%. hold 30% with high target and couldn't be bother the election come.. haha

selling the GENM..

Purebull, ur prediction, the funds come back ? short term ?

will there be another round tomorrow ?

:)

what should be the exit criteria?

I also cabut lor.. Sales pls come again waiting you

Hahaha

wah.. they throw like no tomorrow !!

fasten seat belt

drink coke or pepsi ? which one is better ?

From YTL community.


YTL Corp climbs the ladder to No.4 in 'Top 100 Malaysian Brands'

Brand Finance, September 11, 2012

YTL Corporation moved one notch up from 5th to 4th rank in the Top 100 Malaysia Brand Report for 2012, rated by Brand Finance®.

YTL stood out with a brand value of RM1.711 billion compared to RM1.266 billion in 2011, an increase of RM445 million, with an enterprise value of RM10.121 billion. YTL is the only brand in the top 10 Malaysian brands that has climbed the rankings. YTL also garnered a 40% increase in brand value over the last year and was top of the list in this aspect.

Overview of Malaysia's Most Valuable Brands & Brand Portfolios
The total value of Malaysia’s 100 largest brands and brand portfolios is US$29.84 billion. 64% of the brand value is vested in the Top 10 brands with a combined worth is US$19.24 billion. The top 50 brands account for over 91% of the combined brand value in 2012. Though the remaining 50 brands now account for 9% of the total brand value of the Top 100 brands, this is up by 10% in 2011.

The top 100 Malaysian brands and brand portfolios of US$29.84 billion represent an increase of 8% over last year's study. In tandem with the slow economic recovery, the brand values of most companies have increased marginally across industries.

Brand Finance has ranked the brands and brand portfolios of Malaysia listed companies by their absolute dollar value.


Malaysia's Best Rated Brands

The Brand Rating score represents a summary opinion on a brand based on its strength as measured by Brand Finance's 'Brand Strength Index'. This competitive benchmarking tool provides an understanding of the strength of each brand and is used to determine appropriate royalty and discount rates in the brand valuation process using our proprietary BrandBeta® methodology.

The Brand Rating delivers insight into the underlying equity and performance of each brand. It illustrates how valuations require robust analysis of each brand's performance in order to determine its value. This information is useful for both marketing and finance departments in brand strategy formulation and financial forecasting.

Brand Finance®'s Brand Ratings are conceptually similar to company credit ratings. Three brands top the Brand Rating list this year. They are Genting, CIMB, and Public Bank. All three had brand ratings of AAA-corresponding Brand Strength Scores of 82, 80 and 82 respectively. All the 3 AAA-rated brands are in the top 10.

There was only 1 brand with the second highest AA+ rating namely Parkson (compared to none last year) and 17 brands in the next best AA-rating (compared to 15 last year) of which five brands were in the top 10, and another 4 in the top 20.

Brand Ratings are important because they are a leading indicator of future performance. Some very large and valuable brands may have deteriorating ratings. This ultimately leads to destruction in brand value, and vice versa.

thank you dknycom. you always the positive one...

i think need not to be rocket scientist lor to buy shares, and expect our share to rocket everyday.. LOL

buy share 80% lose money, buy unit trust all lose money one also, put in bank our money cannot fight inflation.

for majority investors like this die like that also die. so look like most ppl got not many choices. just work harder for money.. sob2 :(

thank you kcchongnz :)

think still need unit trusts in the market. % of NAV to Bursa Malaysia Market Capitalisation is around 15 to 20%.

btw, i'm not unit trust agent, have a nice day :)

Purebull, dont understand la, can use layman term? ur prediction market will go down more ? Thanks

kcchongnz, heard bout 80% is losing money in share market since the day i start buying shares. but i believe the longer the investor stay in share market the lower the risk you know, the chances lose money is min if buy index link counters, and adjust them from time to time.

base on the KLCI. you see huh, assume someone unlucky buy in 1993, 1996 or 2007 where index is 1275.32, 1237.96 or 1445.03, today still winning money base on 1600. if lucky buy in 1997, today probably make alot of money. no wonder la, alot of ppl waiting the market to come down.. LOL

of course it is a challenge la on how to get good or maximise the return by rebalancing your portfolio from time to time, and sometime it also depend on luck la. :)


year KLCI change %
1976 95.83
1977 113.39 15.49
1978 156.22 27.42
1979 205.58 24.01
1980 366.70 43.94
1981 380.81 3.71
1982 291.44 30.66
1983 401.60 27.43
1984 303.55 32.30
1985 233.47 30.02
1986 252.43 7.51
1987 261.18 3.35
1988 357.38 26.92
1989 562.27 36.44
1990 505.92 11.14
1991 556.22 9.04
1992 643.96 13.63
1993 1275.32 49.51
1994 971.21 31.31
1995 995.17 2.41
1996 1237.96 19.61
1997 594.44 108.26
1998 586.13 1.42
1999 812.33 27.85
2000 679.64 19.52
2001 696.09 2.36
2002 646.32 7.70
2003 793.94 18.59
2004 907.43 12.51
2005 899.79 0.85
2006 1096.24 17.92
2007 1445.03 24.14
2008 876.75 39.33
2009 1272.78 54.83

big wind 'n thunderstorm. KL is raining

:)

ppl waiting o.n.o :)

believe still a good company with good management. at least this company created some millionaire shareholders in the past history :)

Namo, i'm victim too :(

Joncsk, yes. may not worth the risk to buy just to get the ytlwb, but chances existing shareholders will pick up and need $$$.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/research/viewHTML.tpl?articleNo=2692

From YTL community.

5 September 2012
9:46:50 AM

SC approves YTL Corp's 1-for-15 offer for sale of YTL Power warrants - Kuala Lumpur

Offer price of RM0.20 per warrant (62% discount to market price).

Together with the 1-for-15 share dividend and the 20% interim cash dividend already distributed for the 2012 financial year, the gain to shareholders from the offer for sale would result in a dividend yield of about 9.0% (16.4 sen per share) for the financial year.

Tan Sri (Dr) Francis Yeoh, Managing Director of YTL Corporation Berhad said, “It is our intention to reward long term shareholders of YTL Corporation Berhad with meaningful and substantial dividends in keeping with its status as one of the most successful and dynamic component stock on Bursa Malaysia. This substantial dividend this year is a precursor of its intention."

26/4/11 Ex date of 5 for 1 stock split (before ex 7.99, after ex 1.6), RM8000, assume you catch it at 1.6 last year (it dropped below 1.5 last year)

2011 share split 1 to 5
2012 share dividend 1 for 15

as of today

Total = 5333 x 1.82 = 9706.06
Dividend 2011 = 5000 * 0.02 = 100
Dividend 2012 = 5000 * 0.02 = 100

net = 9706.06 + 200 - 8000 = 1906.06

no wonder EPF holding so much on this counter, missed YTL cement, will there be chances this counter go above rm2 next year ?

i don't have it in my computer, but i remember reading this in business magazine, need to search first, if can find will post it. :) i think 1993 is the superbull.

not sure which website, can't find too :)

noobie, i got this from the same e-book, look like there is a bull in 1993 & 1996. (i only started buying share in 2006)

year KLCI
1990 505.92
1991 556.22
1992 643.96
1993 1275.32
1994 971.21
1995 995.17
1996 1237.50
1997 594.44
1998 586.13
1999 812.33
2000 679.64

1991 年 12 月，1 张YTL 的价 钱 只 是 2.30 零吉 ， 如 果 当 时 我 们
有 幸 用80500零吉 买 下35 张，收 存 到 2000 年12 月，那35 张的
YTL 单单 靠 发 红 股 已 经 变 成 了204 张。
(35,000 股 X 2.30 零吉 = 80,500 零吉)
2000 年12 月31 日，YTL 的价 钱 是4.94 零吉 ，那204 张的 价 值 已
经 是108 万零 吉了，这 还 不 包 括 9年来 我 们 所 获 得 的 股 息 。
(204,000 股 X 4.94 零吉 ＝ 1,007,760零吉)
YTL (杨忠 礼) 的红 股 记 录 ：
1992 年红 股 5 送1
1994 年红 股 5 送1
1995 年红 股 2 送1
1996 年红 股 2 送1
1997 年红 股 2 送1
1999 年红 股 5 送1
1991 年12 月，YTL 的总 成 交 量 只 有3721 粒，不 是 一 个 很 热 门
的 股 票 。大 多 数 的 投 资 者 都 喜 欢 热 门 股 ，所 以 当 初 会 买
进 YTL 的人 是 少 之 又 少 。
那 么 买 进 热 门 股 收 藏 到 今 天 会 不 会 比 较 好 呢？ 让 我 翻
开 记 录 看 一 看 ：
这 资 料 是 从1992 年1 月份 的INVESTOR DIGEST 里取 得 。
INVESTOR DIGEST 是KLSE 出版 的 ， 所 以 可 靠 性 很 强

found this old article in one of the e-book my friend give me. saying this, if someone hold 35 lots YTL since 1991, he was a million in year 2000 base on the time counter price (with the bonus & right issue, excluding the dividend). the author base on the below.

well, chances are there.. haha

Walao eh.. Maybank got 32 cents dividend ?

a company that can weather the storm, a weather forecaster may require to predict the weather too :)

Wow, shit no wonder drop, play 3 counters together, ytl, ytlp, and ytlwb. more on wb

Accumulated some yesterday.