我要爽我不要痛小力一點.

silly cat: could you please wait until everything you said had come true before you make your claims, what for making claims that are never going to materialize or ever going to materialize at all. You probably don't have "v" or lose it all the time because of your sillyness. NO pain no gain but money also is the same, you want pleasure you don't want pain, kind of silly cat, how old are you, are you 16 years old or what?

I agree with Mr. Koon's opinion that selling Gadang is the most wonderful choice you can make in this year. We never think for others nowadays and it is a common norm for some people too and it has become a culture for some people like, Mr. OTB even said stock market has no GOd that there is no need to think for people in the stock market. All of us want to get what we want and forget about other people after what they get from the others what they want. What does Gadang want from shareholders. Have you any clue before you bought any shares in Gadang because there is no God in the stock market and I believe Gadang Boss does not have any obligation to serve you other than to sell you his shares, if you agree with me, you should also agree with Mr. OTB, stock market has no GOd there is no need to think for people in the stock market, what for Gadang's Boss think for you, am i right? please correct me if I am wrong.

分析股票一要先分析公司大老闆,在分析公司(生存性),在分析公司顧客,然後別的投資者想法在自己建立自己地看法,不然就是沒有主見傻傻笨笨呆呆悾悾的人.

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Common sense: Only if you know how to do what you don't know how to do yourself then other people will service you. If you are a beggar (who don't know how to do what you don't know how to do), nobody will service you in the stock market, believe they do service beggars if you stand outside temple doors. The beggars only perform a service outside the temple for people to be kind and the stock market is a different story because the environment, the stock market and the temple, are two different environments. The seed according to the bible must be planted on good soil and not in bad soil for it to grow. seeds don't grow in any place, somebody probably missed his chatetism classes back then on those sunday's.

kancs3118 : you go to school to learn to be able to gradually believe in yourself. how old are you now, had you missed any schooling in the past or procastinated on doing your own homeworks or you were coping somebody's homework back then. too bad for you, you don't know whether to believe in yourself or believe in other people. You don't believe in other people, you believe in the environment you are in (live in this moment because you don't know what is going to happen in the future). The environment does not fools people it is people that are fooling around with people or were you fooling around with your teachers back then, do you still remember any pranks you did in the past or not.

From Warren Buffett 25 quote of the #25


25. Warren Buffett quote: "Someone's sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago."

Which means if "You are not an expert in the property industry but if you have bought Gadang at a much lower price, you can still make money.

From 25 inspiring Buddha quotes: the #25 is
25.“In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you.”

In Chinese it means: 勞心的人控制別人勞力的人被別人控制why?
Because you don't know how to 對自己不好對別人好讓別人去做你不會做的事情. The first point is Gadang don't know how to do anything that other company don't know how to do.
From Warren buffett: 5. What an investor needs is the ability to correctly evaluate selected businesses. Note that word "selected": You don't have to be an expert on every company, or even many. You only have to be able to evaluate companies within your circle of competence. The size of that circle is not very important; knowing its boundaries, however, is vital.

The boundary=what you don't know how to do. and beyond the boundary is what Gadang can do for other people.

You don't have to be an expert but the company you invest in has to be an expert in the industry it is in right now. 1. Gadang is not an expert (wrong assets) and 2. The industry Gadang is in is in a downturn (waste time). 3. You are not an expert in the property industry but if you have bought Gadang at a much lower price, you can still make money. If you have bought recently, you probably have to think whether you can hold the stocks for very long time or not and whether Gadang is not expert in the industry it is in or not. If not, please be bad to yourself and let other more powerful investor like Mr. KYY takes over for you.

Whoever thinks that they don't have to be kind to other people first in order for other people to be kind to them in return will have to prepare themselves for a big surprise later on. What is daylight robbery=you don't have to be good to other people but you are expecting other people to be good to you for sure, this is called daylight robbery, and if you are working with these kind of people with this kind of attitude they are called syndicate, if you don't know whether you are working with one, you are really unbelievable, you should not be one yourself. What is your contribution to Kwasa land development, nothing, and you expect to get your rewards in 2 days, 3days or 3 months, this is called daylight robbery, please see clearly who you are trying to rob from before you buy your shares.

wHAT A pOOR sILLY THING!

Why don't you tell me you intend to see a ghost when you go out tonight because there is a 10% chance for you to encounter that and the best way for you not to meet the ghost would be to stay at home with your money because that is the safest place you can be in the whole world.

your son=the stock you intend to buy. I don't think the stock understands any mathematics at all.

Gadang was a good company but right now if I am you I stay away because the mathematics (or predictions)can not predict a rain and you have to see one coming to you in order to predict it.

People don't give away money for nothing especially when you are nothing to them. When someone understands mathematics but don't understand you, what for you give your money to him. You don't give money to mathematics teacher for your own sake, you give money to them only for your son's sake which you hope your son understand your hardships one day better than anybody else.
If a company is also person, over time, the person's
(1)his skills become obsolete
(2)his habits become old-fashioned
(3)his responsibility changes
(4)his associates changes
(5)his problems changes
Can the mathematics predicts all that or not for you to place your judgement on the person's future action or ability or not.
Lastly, can the mathematics predict a person's longevity or not. If the mathematics can not predict a person's longevity, how can the mathematics predict a company's longevity. A company exists like a person because a company are run by not by a person only. Can a mathematics predict all the ability of the persons in the company or not. Can the mathematics do prediction on company future opportunities or problems or not, why be stupid idiots. Be stupid's don't be idiot's.
I hope you are not fool by a fool and become a fool by paying a fool for nothing constructive to yourself. Using mathematics to predict the world belongs to people who live in flat earth society...this is what Warren Buffett meant when he said. I hope you don't join the people who live in flat earth society or the see everything like a mathematics, 1+1=2 is right only because it is mathematics but for share investment 1+1 is a different story because it involves the round world with far more dimentions and conditions and entities that varies for all situations. For example, the mathematics can not predict a rain and you have to see one coming to you in order to predict it.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.From Albert my friend: "Please don't listen to salesman's talk over and over again and expecting different results."

From "Messrs. Buffett and Munger on Math and Theories

Messrs. Buffett and Munger made clear their complete disdain for the use of higher-order mathematics in finance.

"There is so much that's false and nutty in modern investing practice and modern investment banking, that if you just reduced the nonsense, that's a goal you should reasonably hope for," Mr. Buffett said. Regarding complex calculations used to value purchases, he said: "If you need to use a computer or a calculator to make the calculation, you shouldn't buy it."

Said Mr. Munger: "Some of the worst business decisions I've ever seen are those with future projections and discounts back. It seems like the higher mathematics with more false precision should help you, but it doesn't. They teach that in business schools because, well, they've got to do something."

Mr. Buffett said: "If you stand up in front of a business class and say a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, you won't get tenure....Higher mathematics my be dangerous and lead you down pathways that are better left untrod."

2013~2016: The market was down around 2013 because of ge13 and market was up until 2016 before the 1mdb episode. If you have bought a company like a monkey and don't follow other people's advice you would do extremely well right now. Warren Buffett said you have to be a monkey to do well is because you don't have to follow anybody especially investment guru in order to do well in the long run. If you want money for yourself and you don't want to pay for tragedies, please be a monkey and let yourself know only that you are a monkey and not everyone else. Happy trading.

Quote: It is far better to buy a wonderful company at a fair price "這個世界不是你一個人的,你不用對你自己不好." than a far-company at a wonderful price "誰對你好你才對他好"~Warren Buffett 你不要別人把你當猴子你就要把別人當成猴子. 你不要做你心裡需要別人才會做妳以後的需要. 你要把別人當猴子別人才會給你香蕉吃.你要把別人當成一個吃香蕉的好人而請他吃香蕉.

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Tony: you probably needs to find out what are the pressing needs of your own constitiency for those people who are living under your care. You are not running the country yet or hope to run the country but you must serve now those people you are supposed to serve instead of serving everyone and hoping that everyone not in your constitiency also support you so that they altogether can or must make you into a President of Malaysia someday is it!

You need to treat the society badly in order to serve everyone in the society. Not everyone is receiving subsidies or assistance that is the reason for cut in some of the allocations.

Tony: "You need to build a factory to serve one person or even a few factories just to be able to serve only one person." I believe you should let other factories exist so that the country does not turn out to be only service one factory and for the factory to serve only one person, and that is you, I believe this is your intention, am I right? One person can only do one thing at a time, nobody can harm you you are harming yourself only. But you should not drag everyone down because one person can only do one thing at a time this mean they or everyone of us as individuals can only do one thing at a time so I believe we have other more pressing needs to take care of instead of paying attention to your criticism of others. Going to the television to talk bad about people is the cheapest way to do something that is why you are not running out of money but you are wasting our time. No money of course no development, if you want development without spending money, the best way is to go to the television to bad mouth about people and they sometimes get paid by the television or newspaper business too!

Sometimes you have to ignore criticism and hope that the person who criticizes normally will die or kill himself from twin tower eventually. Why is Tony Pua so stupid, I believe the government is serving the country and you should be serving your constitiency or you have other motives whether it is for your popularity or shoik shoik feeling about yourself and for other people to feel not shoik shoik for the government. Everything is a collective effort, one bad month is only a comedian and this country especially a public employee should not act like a crown and should not have the inablility to realize this when he is acting like one. Everything is a collective effort in order to get anything done for one person or for a lot of person or even for every persons in the country. You crown or what. crown pleast go awway. You need to build a factory to serve one person or even a few factories just to be able to serve one person. Please but in your factory and service your factory alone can or not. You are acting like an actor on television shows do you know or not Tony Pu PU!

Mr. Koon already has a contacting way by writing to him in person or other means stated by him in the past and i3 should not be used to convey personal opinions from a personal need. You want to ask Mr. Koon to be your student so you can be his teacher or you want to ask Mr. Koon to be your friend even when you are not certain whether Mr. Koon is interested in becoming your friend or not. Sounding polite by writing this letter shows that you are a very selfish person and bad manner. Why did you go to school you teacher has not taught you anything or what. You want to ask Mr. Koon to be your teacher or you want to ask Mr. Koon to be your student, please ask yourself first before you consider whether he want you to be his friend or not. ok. I don't want to be teacher, student, friend, everything has 3 sides, if you don't know this I guess you have not read any book especially the Bible or any thing in your life before. Because the book is only a book, good bad 2 sides, plus your your own opinions, you act like a book, all together you committed 5 mistakes and 5 sins just because you did not read anything carefully in the past. I believe with certainty that you should go to kindagartan to start your learning all over again.

We want to talk about stocks and investment, please settle your duals outside of this i3, I am sick and tired to the extend I want to vommit everyday.

Ah_Boon: My suggestion: Could you please start a good-stocks recommending company so we all can follow you instead of following Mr. KYY or Mr. Ooi which is a good way for you and for them to get out of this stalemate of both 3 of you. Could you please start one? Think about it? Don't Give Up Too Quickly.

meathere: Good English, Good Brain, Good Heart, Thumps Up.

(1)講出來不值錢.
(2)講不值錢的東西不是更不值錢.
(3)講不值錢的東西把自己變不值錢.
(4)你也不用我不路地域誰入地域.
(5)因為地域是給勝利者去的地方.(6)喜歡輸的人是去不喜歡跟別人打架的地方.
(7)你如果喜歡當勝利者請打敗你自己先.
(7)勝利者跟勝利者助再一起當然還是喜歡打架.
(8)失敗者者失敗者當然還是喜歡打架.
(9)地球上大家都是失敗者. (Earth=ground zero)
(10)你還有手有腳地球上大家都是失敗者.

Satan like to win God or God like to win Satan,
who likes winning other people better, the Satan or God. You better read the Bible carefully to determine the winner go where and the losers like to live where. If you called other people losers please don't tell people your identity as a Christian yourself whether losers or winners before you read the Bible carelly or have consult with your Paster. Jesus said I come to save the poor the needy the sick and the destitude and he didn't said he come to save the winners. God is the winner already what for God need to save the winners for them to come and fight with the winner (to see who can fight better in a zero-some game)is it?

I also support him but I support him in a smart way because he is really stupid and really stupid but still trying to act like he is smarter than everyone else. Stay away from this guy! A Christian will be afraid to say he is a Christian by tarnishing God's good name.

The stock market is a zero-sum game, to you God helps those who help themselves, we understand, but what you do not understand is those who help themselves are those who do not give out information for people to buy shares and sell their share instead. I know you have a hard time selling out your margin bought shares because of the damped sentiment on the stock market and I hope there is a correction when the Fed raises interest rate. I am hoping for a crash to see how you go to hell with your shares. Everyone knows that the stock market is in a damped mood hard to sell out huge amount of shares. You thought the losers are born yesterday or what.

"Stock market is a zero sum game, it is the standard term used in stock market. THe barbarian cannot understand the term and twisted it to suit them. That show how low is their standard in stock market."

You help Mr. Koon to manage the buying and selling of shares, he gives people "buy" call and you do the "sell" call, what a match, and sometimes it is the other way round, you give the "buy" call and Mr. Koon do the "sell" call, one smart and one stupid and everyone are losers.

Of course God loves people who loves themselves.

Give and Take: if you didn't cheat people you don't have to tell people you didn't cheat them.

Smart people when they need the stupid people to help them they act stupid and when they need God to help them they also act stupid this is called give and take, everyone understands this already, you think the losers are born yesterday or what?

You called people losers: I believe it must be God that is giving you this privilege.

Smart people when they want to make use of other people they like to act like they are stupid people giving away their money, God can not be bribe by money, he sees whether your heart is pure or really innocent or not. The other way roung, stupid people when they want to make use of other people they like to act like they are smarter than the other people or everyone else to make use of the other people. In the end, after the smart have no more use of the stupid people, they tell you I have no more time to make use of you now because I need to spend some time to act stupid to bribe God with the money I have stolen from the stupid people.

This is Ah Koon's intelligent, he thinks that God can be bribe by him, that is why God does not requires you to have money to enter the Kingdom of God, I believe Ah Koon is not a Christian and he does not know that.

For this reason smart people also likes to work with stupid people, Ah Koon and Ah Ooi, they thought God will surely like them for being the winner in the stock market and treat everyone as losers.

One smart one stupid con everybody and said everybody are losers. You have to pay this someday, God will teach you how to be stupid and smart at the same time, this is call innocent or zero-sum game in human's terminology.

If you don't buy they can not sell to you for you to do long-term investment and for them to do short-term investment. hahaha!

dead meat.

When you are performing a service to others, please "Do what you love" because even if others are not grateful after you did performed the service for him you can still be happy by beginning with doing what you love. This is the reason for why he said that:

Warren Buffett once said, “Work at a job you love.” Why would a billionaire say this? I believe it is because he understands nothing can bring you happiness if you spend your life in misery.

Never risk the important for the unnecessary.

When you have all of your necessities, do not go out and risk it all for a temporary moment of pleasure, or from a fit of rage. Use good judgement. Use common sense. This seems to be rare these days.

1. Stop Digging That Hole


We keep things difficult by digging those big ol’ holes for ourselves. Buffet teaches that, The most important thing to do if you find yourself in a hole is to stop digging.


Ultimately, of course, it’d be terrific to notice when we start digging another hole to begin with, no? It’s possible, with mindful awareness of direct experience in the moments of our lives.


2. Change Boats


When we’re paying good attention to what’s occurring right in front of us, it’s much easier to make wise choices. Buffet’s mindful advice about noticing a problem? Should you find yourself in a chronically leaking boat, energy devoted to changing vessels is likely to be more productive than energy devoted to patching leaks.


Change boats when necessary. A lot of us have the idea that we’re supposed to stick it out, for whatever reasons, sometimes forever. Perhaps that’s not actually true, at least not for you, today, in this or that situation. Can you tell the difference?


3. Use Superpower Sight


Among other things, Buffet knows how to use discernment in order to spot nuances. I don’t look to jump over seven-foot bars: I look around for one-foot bars that I can step over.

As for parkson, what you don't need now you will not need it later on. See whether you need it now or not, if not if you invest in parkson now which is what you don't need to do now, your investment now will become redundant in the future. You can only analyse the past and the present condition but you can not analyse the future because the future is something that has not happened. What you don't need now please don't buy now or else you will regret later. To buy parkson, see whether you need Parkson now or not? For me, I don't need Parkson now so I don't need to worry about tomorrow of what I don't need now. Investment is actually common sense, hah?

Business starts to deteriorate. If you are interested in this counter, wait for margin call of the big investor first.

I live in Singapore for 15 years for my primary and secondary education that is how I know.

dog: if you are selling shares please keep your mouth shut or else if the price don't drop you will malu yourself. 200% guaranteed price will not drop now. UOB always give wrong information because Singaporean like to Yaya.

Price is not equal to value and value is not equal to price. This is the relationship of price and value. Nothing is very abstract and noting is so difficult to understand.

Hold very tight by the power of God of Truth entrusted upon Airasia. tp 4.95. BuyWithConviction we die also we never mind.

"What do you mean by "fair value"? Is it cast in stone?

Have you heard of "the Golden Rule" in investing which has been repeated again and again? "

The golden rule is : Only if the company is a wonderful company then you try to buy at the fair price. The problem is when a company is very cheap or trading at a fair price of RM2.80 this does not make the company into a wonderful company.

Lion industry is net asset value easily RM3 but share price trading at very fair value of 35 cent. Does this means you should invest in Lion industry because it trading price is very fair and very cheap. This guy is bohong sifu or bohong sifat!

This kcchong is kindergarden standard only. Using kindergarten standard can take in students, this amazes me. Why are so many Malaysians so stupid that they have to listen to people who live in New Zeland.

For benjamin2013: Only a no-brainer will know who is a no-brainer. please check whether you are a no-brainer or not. benjamin2013 : you don't even know when Mr. Kong is going to da-pian how do you you know whether he has brain or not. You don't even know when is someone going to da-pian but you think you know that you have brain and other people is a no-brainer. Please check whether when is Mr. Kong going to da-pian then you will know whether it is you who is the no-brainer or it is Mr. Kong who is the no-brainer. Please go and check when other people is going to da-pian before you said someone or something is a no-brainer, ok!


"benjamin2013 Kcchongnz: At RM1.72 now, I think Focus Lumber is a great value stock to invest for long term. But why is there no interest in this stock? Once bitten twice shy?

Couldn't agree more KC. Its a great value stock to invest for the long term. Net cash of 86 sen per share is enough to pay 15 sen dividends for the next 5 years. Plus cash yield is >10%, which is twice your requirement. A NO-BRAINER INVESTMENT INDEED!"

For Focus Lumber: A lot of people who bought earlier are stuck on high prices. If someone pushes up the share price all those who are stuck before will sell out. Who is so sostupid to advise people to buy focus lumber when they are a lot of so stupid people in that counter who bought high before are waiting to sell out their shares. Please don't promote this stock when a lot of people who bought high are already stuck inside. Use common sense, which is quite lacking this days. As for parkson, who you don't need now you will not need it later on. See whether you need it now or not, if not if you invest in parkson now which is what you don't need to do now, your investment now will become redundant in the future. You can only analyse the past and the present condition but you can not analyst the future because the future is something that has not happened. What you don't need now please don't buy now or else you will regret later. To buy parkson, see whether you need Parkson now or not? For me, I don't need Parkson now so I don't need to worry about tomorrow of what I don't need now. Investment is common sense, hah? Don't need to pay too much money to listen to people who tell you nothing.

Export stocks can not forever relies on Malaysia's cheap labor. Some of those export stocks that do not reinvent their business models will become outdated someday. Every time Mr. Koon promoted his shares with graph, the shares have gone up at least 50% then he brag to you you are very poor to intimidate you to buy the shares he promoted. I rather remain poor become compare to a lot of people in this world Mr. Koon is still a very poor man. One mountain can not compare to another mountain, calling other people poor people, becareful of retribution.

此地無銀三百兩. 【釋義】「此地無銀三百兩」這一成語，用來比喻想隱瞞、掩飾某件事，結果反而暴露了。隨隨叫一聲就自以為別人會幫你接手你炒作起來的股票. 馬幣一升值你那些外銷股就會好看. Global growth slowing down, no need to chase high for the perpertrator to dump their shares to you. They are pretty desperate that is why they kept promoting their shares after they pushed the prices up.

”歹戲拖棚”

"Learning to manage RISK ... that is risk management." your quote Mr. Teh, is wrong and idiotic. You ripped people off by giving people wrong information in your tuition class. If you don't have to manage risk then you have risk management. If something has a risk it is not worth doing at all. You are so stupid and so many people are even more stupid than you by listening to you.

The only person interested in this counter is Mr. KYY who has tons of shares in this counter. If you buy you can not sell out, the trading volume everyday is so small, you buy you stuck and have to give your shares to your grandchildren. Do you want that to happen or not? I believe Mr. KYY does not want that to happen so he kept on promoting the shares hopefully one of you guys are so kind to help him out by buying the shares of focus lumber and keep the shares for long term investment so that Mr. KYY can do other short term investments. The same situation is also true for Latitude, Liihen and VS industry. You buy you have to keep for long term investment with the possibility to giving them to your grandchildren or to some other very profound charities.

Hold very tight. tp RM4.50. some small selling but price trend of trending up still not vitiated.