stockraider: If you are Mahartie then you sing song or else please don't sing songs. We all the Malaysians 40 million people we have palm oil plantations, shop houses, stocks, and cash too! We are not going to go broke just because the Americans or the stockraider or Mahartie singing songs to you. By the way their songs are not going to get you richer, so cheer up yourself. If that is not enough to cheer you up, go find a woman.

Lemon Juice: I told you already. Who is paying for your singing her in i3 forum. Would you mind telling us? Or are you trying to get us to buy export stocks so you can off load to i3 innocent lambs?

It is not criminal charge and by the Americans they want extra cash from the poor Malaysians or else what for they are kind to you. crocodile tears. They want money US$10 billion of assets. They only want the US$10 billion and they are not going to come to Malaysia to pay you your lunch or dinner or tickets to go to Mahartie concert.

A US DOJ proceeding takes 10 years before any verdict can be made. If you are thinking that Malaysians which are 40 million population right will be affected because of that proceeding you are spreading rumors. Please spread rumors to yourself only and spread your own rumors to other people to listen. Mahartie is a singer and when Mahartie sings people listen but if you are not a singer, I don't think anyone will pay you any money. Mahartie is different, that person is a good singer and good people listen and got people appreciate his singing. What if you appreciate the singer right you go to his concert to support him. If you buy the tickets you pay money to fund his singing. Are you trying to follow the footstep of Mahartie the pop singer that is a little not popular right now but he is still trying to make himself more popular for what you guesss. For your time and your tickets. mah.

Of course there are deeper implications I did not write down, but just for simple speaking only and just for anyone who wishes to understand Warren Buffett a little better. If you compare my writing with his, they coincide with his ideas on the older articles: For example: "Warren Buffett’s 10 Inspiring Tips For Young People."
1.Invest in “you” before anyone else.
2.Break your bad habits early.
3.Hire a mentor.
4.Know your strengths.
5.Do what you love.
6.Never risk the important for the unnecessary.
7.Don’t pass up good opportunities.
8.Tick-tock, protect your clock.
9.Avoid credit cards.
10.Be kind.

Rule 1: If you think a person is a good person you are not supposed to turn the person into a bad person-realities. (你如果知道任何事情你不用馬上告訴別人)。因為你要等別人要做他 “未來的必要”的時候，你才能夠知道他現在真正的想法。

Rule 2: If you think the person is a bad person you are supposed to help the person to turn into a good person---obligations. (你如果要幫助別人你要以利益別人為主)。過去對你再好的人，他未來也需要錢他才會快樂。

Rule 3: Whether that person is a bad person or a good person you are not supposed to turn the person into a bad person either (you are supposed to know other people better than you know yourself). (學佛自心相續)。不要以為，過去所發生的事情未來通通都會一樣，好會變壞(因為2)，壞不會變好(因為1)。

Rule 4: You are supposed to do what is difficult for other people to do before you can do what is important to you in the past or what you normally would like to do in the past. (修是修自己)。你認為對你不重要的事情，但是這件事情如果對別人重要的話，這件事情就會壞變好。
Rule 5: You are supposed to do what other people will need in the future before you can even think of doing something you like for yourself right now. (強調重點)。你認為對你重要的事情，但是這件事情如果對別人不重要的話，這件事情就會好變壞。重要是要看別人認為重不重要。

Rule 6: Those who exalt themselves will be humbled; please don't think that you are more important than the rest of the people in Malaysia or in the whole world. That you are better than other people that can give you the privilege to do whatever you like to do for yourself or whatever that pleases you. (做事情不是要把事情做好，而是在做事情的過程當中提升自己)。任何事情，不管是對你重要還是對你不重要，你都不要自己決定。如果你自己決定，對你重要不重要，你就會害別人害自己。

rule 7: You are not supposed to determine your own outcome when other parties are involved (you need to determine what is the need of everybody (excluding you and your associates) in the present environment). (不要在業已感果的果上改，你要在業已感果的境上改)。你老是喜歡做對你重要的事情，但是這件對別人不重要，因為(5), 好變壞。你從好變壞，機會跟風險，你老是喜歡做對你重要的事情，但是這件對別人不重要。做別人不重要的事情，是有機會還是風險?

rule 8: You reap in the future what you sow now ( the company today's action that will make the share price go up in the future without taking into consideration of any the macro economic factors). The method is to reverse the order (you need to go back to change your own past weakness if you realize that the company or anyone is not performing to your expectation). Feel free to make your own mistakes now because you can always change your own past mistakes in a future date because it is better not to lose an opportunity rather than to make a mistake. (我們要做難做的事情: 當你知道別人 “未來的必要” 你要改變你過去的錯誤(不要整天只是想要做，對你自己重要的事情))。你的需要應該是對別人重要的事情，只要對別人重要，就算很難做，你認為你應該不應該做呢?

rule 9: What does the company did in the past that will have a bad effect for you in the present environment. You cannot reverse past wrong done by others or patch the leaking for others. You also reap now what other people have sowed in the past. And the effect of what you reap now because of what other people sowed in the past can very well continue into the future. Like buying a share only after there has been a substantial price increase in the past or share splits are bad for new investors. You are not supposed to do anything that is good for other people but are detrimental to yourself (you can always pick up the next opportunity for yourself). (對別人要有禮貌: 當你知道別人現在的想法(別人現在的想法是他過去的必要)，不管他是聰明的人或是傻瓜，你都要做他身體的需要)。你要看他過去的必要是什麼，你在做他現在的必要。就算他“過去”喜歡講大話或者現在你更應該幫助他？幫助傻瓜比較便宜過幫助聰明的人。因為過去的傻瓜才是現在聰明的人。過去聰明的人你看他第一個會害的人會是誰(當然是別人)。

rule 10: You also reap now what other people sowed in the past. Because of rule 7: you are not supposed to determine your own outcome when other parties are involved. Have you own reasons for doing anything for yourself. You only do what is important for other people after only they have done what you like them to do for you (Be rationale). (境無好壞完全是業感：你要先做別人過去重要的事情(你要先了解別人(做別人心裡的需要：不要喜歡罵人))你才做你自己未來需要的事情(機會跟風險)，你不要以為什麼事情都很容易做)。

FamJenny: I know you are keen on understanding Warren Buffett. I hope this helps. Another example to illustrate. There are only 4 types of people in this world for simple speaking: the good, the bad, the stupid, the smart. You have to be the good and smart people yourself. That is statement 1 and statement 3, I wrote, and you have to be of course help the bad people to be the good people, statement 2, and you have to help the stupid people in order to be the smart people, statement 4, I wrote. To give the example in warren buffett's example taken from this article: "Warren Buffett wants to end Wall Street's broken earnings game"

Buffett acknowledged he has a dual class at Berkshire in the form of Class A shares and Class B shares.

"On balance, it's better to have one class of stock," said Buffett, but he added that the dual class works at Berkshire. (You have to be the good people yourself (don't cause other people any trouble but there are two sides to everything))

"As I give away my own shares, and I've given away about 40 percent [to charity] so far and I'll give away every share I have, I always convert the ... 'A' stock into the 'B' stock. So the 'A' stock will have less proportionately as it goes along," he said. (there are two sides to everything, you need to help the bad people to be the true good people also)

"We also have a provision that in the event of any kind of a corporate transaction, the 'A' stock cannot be treated differently than the 'B' stock. I think that's important and we put that in our paper," he added.

(You have to help the stupid people to become the smart people, but there are 2 sides to everything, the best way is to consider both the stupid people and the smart people to be equally smart.)

"Hope you are not more idiotic than your name,sostupid." I see you are in a better mood today, thanx for the compliments.

FamJenny: Those I　wrote on Chinese on the previous posting similar idea to WB these few quotes:
1. The worst investment you can make over time: cash.

We always keep enough cash around so I feel very comfortable and don't worry about sleeping at night. But it's not because I like cash as an investment. Cash is a bad investment over time. But you always want to have enough so that nobody else can determine your future essentially.

2. Invest in a broad-based index fund that tracks the S&P 500.

If you are a professional and have confidence, then I would advocate lots of concentration. For everyone else, if it’s not your game, participate in total diversification. The economy will do fine over time. Make sure you don’t buy at the wrong price or the wrong time. That’s what most people should do, buy a cheap index fund, and slowly dollar cost average into it. If you try to be just a little bit smart, spending an hour a week investing, you’re liable to be really dumb.

Recommended reading: “Common Sense on Mutual Funds: New Imperatives for the Intelligent Investor” by Vanguard founder Jack Bogle. Any investor in funds should read [Bogle’s books]. They have all you need to know.

3. Invest in yourself.

“The best investment you can make is in your own abilities. Anything you can do to develop your own abilities or business is likely to be more productive.”

4. If you’re determined to pick stocks, don’t buy into a business you don’t understand.

[Individual investors] ought to think about what he or she understands. Let's just say they were going to put their whole family's net worth in a single business. Would that be a business they would consider? Or would they say, "Gee, I don't know enough about that business to go into it?" If so, they should go on to something else.... There are all kinds of businesses that [longtime partner and vice chairman of Berkshire Hathaway Charlie Munger] and I don't understand, but that doesn't cause us to stay up at night. It just means we go on to the next one, and that's what the individual investor should do.

5. Focus on the competition as well.

[Buying stock in a company is] buying a piece of a business. If they were going to buy into a local service station or convenience store, what would they think about? They would think about the competition, the competitive position both of the industry and the specific location, the person they have running it and all that.

6. Invest for the long haul.

“If you aren’t willing to own a stock for 10 years, don’t even think about owning it for ten minutes”

Quote from KKY: "My advice to all my critics is that they must really examine their track record. I think many who often make senseless remarks and not willing to learn, are not as successful as they want people to think."
What is the real purpose "learn" according to sostupid:
(1)學要想: 好人你要自己做.
(2)想要學: 你要先救壞人你才救好人,你才是好人(Follow Jesus Christ).
(3)學要問: 聰明的人你要自己做.
(4)你不要以為妳自己很聰明: 你要先救傻瓜你才救聰明的人,你才是聰明的人(Save so stupid "First" that is the only way you can save KYY).
(5)你不要以為別人不好你自己很好. Or else Jesus will tell his father to send fire on you.
(6)你不要以為什麼事情都很容易做. Or else KYY will say he is better than you because you are the stupid people.

Pick Low Hanging Fruits. Don't need to listen to that lunatic!

22/07/2016 11:51

Don't die with him: strickly avoid KYY counters. He wanted to get rid of his old shares. He already push up those shares. Liihen, VS, Latitude, all got profits he now wanted to get rid of them. The economy so bad no share prices can go up. NO Need to die with him. Avoid KYY counters.

(he likes to say he is good other people are bad and even if all the people in this world are really bad people to you you are still not supposed to treat everybody in this world as stupid idiots (this is what Mr. Koon normally does). For i3 investors, I believe we all are smarter than a dog because when someone throws a rock at a dog the dog normally chases after the rock instead of the person that throws the rock at you. If we chase after rock (the bad news )we are not better than the dog. If you don't chase after bad news you will be better than the dog. Once bitten twice shy.

Mr. Koon he can not control his own emotional needs (he likes to say he is good other people are bad and even if all the people in this world are bad people you are still not supposed to treat the bad people as stupid idiots (this is what Mr. Koon normally does). If you are not the culprit you don't have to think for the bad people by speaking up for yourself, you should just get on with your normal "good people" life because you don't want other people to think that you are the good people and everyone else are the bad people. For i3 investors, I believe we all are smarter than a dog because when someone throws a rock at a dog the dog normally chases after the rock instead of the person that throws the rock at you. If we chase after rock (the bad news )we are not better than the dog. If you don't chase after bad news you will be better than the dog. Sleep well if you are not the thief because you don't have to worry for them. In fact, they would know how to take good care of themselves better than you are able to take care of them because when they are the thief and especially when you are not smarter than the thief what for you need to worry about them.

價值是要: 看你做的事情對別人有沒有價值, 不是要看你投資的股票的價值, 投資是要做對別人有價值的事情, 不是要做對你有價值的事情, 如果你的投資到你要死之前你都沒有做對別人有價值的事情,你不是浪費生命白活了. 不要做書呆子.

請問是社會大學還是他爸爸開的大學,個人認為沒有性交過的大學生只懂得吃奶?

I don't want to know the accounting value of this company because I am not interested in buying the company. I am interested in share prices only By the way. What is company biggest competitive advantage? Does the company know how to do anything better than the competitors? For competitive advantage products, who are the customers?

Good stock to get in.

If you are interested in goreng stock, I am very sure they are going to goreng wtk.

net asset per share is 85 cents. share price trading at 1.23/0.85= 1.45 times book value. major exports to Japan and China. I thought Japan and China have recession right now. What for they want to increase the use of plywood in the future. If the stock was goreng to RM3 something in the past, looking at the past, this is a goreng stock. If you know when they are going to goreng the stock, then you post this article for us the i3 investors or else you should not ask people to buy goreng stock.

noobnnew: you are such a good person, everything you said is other people is wrong you are right, and you like to do what you like, talk here talk there to prove to yourself that you are a good person, but the other person is a bad person. Do you know why? Even if monkey is good at climbing trees you should not treat yourself like monkey telling everybody you are good at everything. A good monkey is a monkey good at climbing tree but a good monkey is not good at everything. Maybe you are a monkey in your previous life, you never know?

Please change your article, I read 1.45% from your article, you con man? You have no eyes or you have no hands, if you said 30% of what? If 1.45% of share price better invest in fd. If 30% still 1.45% of share price, why you said it is a hidden gem? Are you a lunatic?

How can dividend rate of 1.45% be a good company. Somebody's wife no matter how beautiful if you can not makan anything, look song song for what. That is why the price drop? Can you explain such a beautiful wife but the wife is somebody's else wife, you look with sliva only for what?

How can condom bocur, man always like women, women like man better if they use condom?

High is very cold, time to sell those stocks that have peaked in prices, they will not stay in peaked prices forever.

we should all go and trust feye tan sell wife and sell our children just to buy those shares he recommended with no basis but his intention of selling out those shares to you.

useless tan: the rule is to buy low and sell high. But this person purposely told everyone to buy high and sell low. All the stocks he said have peaked in prices. what for you come and force everybody to become stupid like you. feye uselss tan!

At least he tries to be a hero and make his life a useful one to others and himself even though perfection is an illusion some times for everyone of us. His articles are well-worded and they contained songs too that are amusing pleasing and thoughtful for those who have hearts and not so much brains they will know how to appreciate other people's hard work and contributions.

Low cost: we all should make mee hoon RM 5 cent a bow, Mr. Tony Fernandes, that is how you can sell more mee hoon and sell more over-supplied shares to the Malaysian investors or Hong Kong investors. Lugi sini utung sana, all furs come from the goats, I hope you all are not the goats Mr. Tony Fernandes wanted you all to be!

Jonathan: "TF has built up AA from scratch." This phrase is called pasar malam phrase because this event is something that happened a very long time ago. You can not differentiate what is "long time ago" and what is "present time". Just like English, you can not use past tense to describe something in the "present tense" or "future tense". But this Jonathan's English is not bad but his logic is not good or is tah baik, how can you Jonathan uses past tense to talk about present situation, are you a clown? The past tense must always be used as the same thing as what is in the present tense (situation) or the future tense is it Mr. Clown?

What Tony wants I know and everybody knows. But what do you want to do for you own life meathere? What about you and what are you? Be a bodeh God or bodeh hero person is it? I believe God or the hero they do not want people to use their life just to bodeh God or bodeh hero. Do you understand or not?

Keleng likes to puseng: meathere you said Sostupid - all your comments just prove how immature you are. Period. Malaysia does not want to become dubai, Malaysia is Malaysia. Some people likes to to puseng like the keleng, are you a kelong or not, we are Malaysia we are not dubai, meathere? Sometimes I believe some people need to get their originality check for sure? You have to know yourself, you need education to get to know yourself, please get to know yourself and be yourself, your name is meathere and your name is not Tony. Be meathere, even if Tony is a hero or a God, what about you and waht are you? Bodeh people for what. Bodeh hero or bodeh God for what. The hero and God is busy, like I am, we don't have time for people who bodeh hero or those who bodeh God.

lalu26: we are not your slaves, for RM32, you go around and call everybody bastard cronies. You must be one of the people who come from Mars, who does not want to pay for anything, you expect everything to be free so that you can be a regular joe. Be rich don't be a regular joe, you lazy ass!

lala26: Tony Fernandes is trying to make the government into his crony or the airport his private crony by criticizing the government or the Malaysian airport management. They are not his crony (the airport or the government)that is why they don't have to do anything just to please Tony. All Malaysians know how to find their own jobs and I believe you are retarted or else what for you need people to find you a job? Bastard cronies, I didn't imply that you have to force yourself to be one of them, please don't speak for Tony Fernandes, he does not fly all the planes in Airasia, he does not own the whole of Airasia, because Airasia is full of huge debts, he is only the team leader and your are trying to be his bastard crony that is something I can not understand.

First of all, leave all your own opinions out in the argument. Period. Are you trying to be a good person or a bad person? Whether you are a good person or a bad person they are your own business. Whether Tony Fernandes is a good person or a bad person they are Tony Fernandes own business. Have you go to the toilet to shit this morning or not, please do so, you are so stinking smelly, why don't you just mind your own business and stop giving your own opinions out in the argument. I am not interested in your private parts, you understand, do you?

low-cost is also means giving customers less favors. As an airport, we can not be low-cost because of so many considerations. Some indian are like that, low-cost first after they make their money, they dump and run. Look at airasia and aax huge debts, low-cost with huge debts, list in Hong Kong for what? Some indian are like that, low-cost first after they make their money, they dump and run. Give you more low-cost shares in return for your money, you stupid investors, do you think the low-cost is worth anything because you are getting also low-cost service, you should adjust your mentality or else Tony Fernandes is going to say again: I don't know whether I should cry for you stupidity or laugh at your irrationality.

Tony Fernandes:
You are such an idiot do you know? For 5 reasons.
(1)We all don't know anything about what is going to happen in the future. (2)But when you Tony thinks that he or his Airasia is more important than other people or the Malaysian airport or the Malaysian public, he starts to give comments that he is better and other people are lousy than him.
(3)But when you Tony has a need, he or his Airasia wants to expand his business,he starts to give comments that he is right and other people are wrong.
(4)But when Tony or Airasia is making money, Tony starts to give comments saying that we should all follow his old style or doing only the things that Tony likes to do over and over again.
(5)But when Tony or Airasia is having problem, Tony starts to give comments saying other people should help him or Airasia to deal with the future needs.

Tony is doing everying by bypassing other people's current consideration. The airport business is a difficult business, please don't tell the airport how to run the airport business. Who are you Tony, why should everything always have to do something to please you. Lastly you Tony should cry for yourself now because you will not be able to laugh later on.

For example, he bought the security exchange in Batu Pahat for 2 million from the old founders, run the security exchange for 5 years, revalue the security exchange to 10 million and sold the security exchange back to Berjaya corp. He trick is to buy private assets, run it for 5 years and sold back the assets he acquired as a private owner back to Berjaya corp. for 10 times the price he bought in the first. This is a con man and Berjaya corp is a con counter. stay away.

Vicient Tan is a con man, you don't need to investigate this counter, you don't need to invest in this counter. If you do what you like to do yourself you don't need to go and do for others what they don't know how to do. I am sure Vicient Tan don't know how to sit down on a floor and peel onions for you.

Should Malaysia airport be a low-cost airport just like what Tony Fernandes said: low cost is the only way to go. This is a clown talking, like to make use of other people to serve himself only. When you are performing a tasking, you are performing the task to improve yourself, you don't go and try to perform tasking to improve some clown who wants to be rich. If malaysia airport become a low cost airport, don't make money, how can the airport improve its quality of service. If you low cost until you can not make money, you become the clown yourself. The stupid clown Tony Fernandes you can ask him to go and f himself.

白文春不懂經濟,在這邊亂講,市場短期,本來就有起起落落,這篇文章只講負面消息,沒有提到正面的信息. 做人做事都一樣,歷史已經告訴我們,如果白文春自己是一個扶不起的阿斗,請她把自己的缺點留給她自己就好,不要亂講一通,這份報告早就過時,經濟報告本來就要講未來的事情,至少五年以後的事情,不是檢討別人現在的缺點.娘娘腔, 不如去做雞討生活比較容易,不要寫沒有志氣的文章隨便誤人子弟(你以為馬來西亞是乞丐國家嗎?白文春).

慈悲喜捨.

The 4 simple guidelines for buying any kind of stocks:
(1)Only if you can do something important for other people, the other party will do something you like for you back in return.
(2) Only if you can do something necessary for other people, the other party will do something that is important for you back in return.
(3) Only if you can do something people like, the other party will do something that is necessary for you back in return.
(4) Always buy a stock only when you can determine whether the stock is doing something important now, necessary in the future, and can do something or what other people like in the past for other people and not for you.

Investing is investing in yourself. Stupid. Money don't drop down from the sky freely. Warren Buffett quote: If you are stupid yourself the world will always look flat to you all the time, whether it is yesterday or in the future.

"The earlier you start, the better." That is because enlightenment can only come after you have committed a terrible mistake.

Intrisic value: You don't have to count the intrinsic value, you have to read a lot or be very knowledgeable.

Intrinsic value is what you know that other people don't know, that gives you an advantage when you are buying stocks. Have your own reasons to buy any stocks you like, it must be your own reasons.

To make money, of course, you must know something that other people don't know, and that piece of knowledge or information is known as intrinsic value.

You can not predict future share price using time-value of money, that is why warren buffett uses the easier way, predict earning power instead of future share price. If a stock has no business competitors, if you bought the shares when it was trading at the lower price range, then the opportunity for you to make money is very high.

You don't need mathematics course, all you need is to be hardworking and read the annual report yourself and learn a few tricks by yourself over the years.

You are good to go any time, you don't need to use mathematics to predict how long you are going to live samething also you can not use mathematics to predict whether share price will go up or not. Investing is invest in yourself not invest in the companies. You need to develop your own skills by understanding the stocks that you are like better before you make a kill.

Warren Buffet quote: Investing on paper is like reading a romance novel vs. doing something else. You’ll soon find out whether you like it. The earlier you start, the better.
Source: BRK Annual Meeting 2007

A lot of investing concepts written by Kcchong and ICON8888 are really wrongful and give people confusion. I like to mention one of them ( of the many): Example 1.
Long term investing is not buying a stock and keep for long term. Warren Buffett evaluates his stocks every year. Change them when he sees the necessary. Long term investing is buying the stocks that you are very confident with because you already know the stock for a long term. (Sell them and buy them back later on is what he means by buying the stock over a long period of time: sometimes you sell out sometimes you buy back but always buy the stocks that you are very familiar with because you have been dealing with the stock for a long time).

You don't buy a stock through mathematics calculation and keep the stock for long term hoping god come one day and help you out.

This is one of warren buffett quote (think about it yourself):
On knowing what you don’t know:
All investing is laying out cash now to get some more back in the future. The concept of “a bird in the hand” came from Aesop in about 600 BC. He knew a lot, but not that [he lived in] 600 BC. He couldn’t know everything. ... If you need to use a computer or calculator to figure it out, you shouldn’t [buy the investment]. Those types of [situations] fall into the “too-hard” bucket. It should be obvious. It should shout at you, without all the spreadsheets. We see something better.
Source: BRK Annual Meeting 2009

Wei Jie Yau: Why are you so stingy? Why only push to 85 cent? We want RM1.50 per share? I waiting aha?

Insider said they have invented a machine to sell to Microsoft the tentative price will go up to RM2.

I don't have a lot of time to spend on research for stocks. I usually buy stocks which are 30 years of business operations or more. To be realistic now, old stocks not performing, may be, you can recommend some younger stocks. I want to buy younger stocks (those that people don't expect the price to go up) and your logic (I don't want market news (everybody knows becoming a trap or else how can everybody also knows)). Let me know, I read the column later on I have go out to get some air. Just put down the names, I go to the counter to look. Many Thanks.

Up_down I saw you in may counters (quite active)I am also have some shares. I like to buying dying counters and hope they go up by not dying eventually. Do you have any good recommendations or not. What is a dying counter by appearance but in fact may not die eventually. Your logic die (appearance)and not die (logic, wisdom).