Nope Alvin.
Anyway, if the ship is sinking in rough wave, you dun hop back when it is calm because it going to sink. Like i don't buy into sumatec even if oil price go back up to $80.

Also, i dun jump into rough wave as well because it will drown you anyway. I go into a lifeboat. See the difference?????

I was giving a serious thought on how to reply to Alvin in order to have a constructive discussion.......but then on 2nd thought......nah.....why bother. Winning an argument doesn't earn me money. As long his method work for him and my method work for me, then everyone is happy. II don't have deep pocket but i have buying strategy, I'm about 4% down from my average buying price. Next buying will be 0.85 if it drop to that level. Will it???? lol.....

Petrochemical cannot be sunset industry la. 90% of the daily item you use is coming from petrochemical. You wake up in the morning till you go to sleep, you are using products that using petrochemical. All the way from your shower gel, packing, automobile, clothing and even condom has petrochemical in it. How can be sunset leh? Now is really supply more than demand and demand also reduce la. It will takes time for demand to match the supply because it depends on human consumption ma. Human don't born overnight. It takes 9 months and then after come out, you lifelong will be dependent on the petrochemical product and it evolves as you grow. So, it will be slow for the human population to increase but the increase is definite.

Philip, but the most worrisome part is the oversupply and reduce in demand. With the oversupply problem, ie; US & China petrochemical plant coming online, the output will be high. Also, the reduction of plastic usage will add salt to the wound. It might take many years to the demand to catch up. Is just like the steel counter. Local steel counter is suffering due to poor demand and over supply. Furthermore, with the Anta steel in production, it makes this worst. Hope you can share your opinion on this. Thanks.

Alvin, you must be kidding right? Cons bcoz no share buyback or dividend? Thankful that u r not on the board of director or consultant. With so many opportunity ahead, the money is better spend to drill more well n exploration. This will create more value for shareholder. By then the share price will raise automatically because you be the 1 doing share buyback.

wow....drop to 0.90c le.....tomorrow if open below 0.90c.....then fall further......

Chokhmah, i don't think counter will bankrupt. So i will monitor further and see if it consolidate, i will buy 1 more portion of my allocation to average down. Haven really decide the next entry point but i doubt it will go below 5......so i spread my 3 parts purchase accordingly. If it really goes down to rm5, either i cut loss or i see it go down and cry without tears loh.....oh wait....mayb if cutloss @5, when cry, will come out blood....

Yaloh....what happen to Kong ming ah?.....

One man meat is another man poison. I see this 1 poison o not. Depends on how u buy this counter ma. If you sailang at 1 go, then i can only salute you. I split this to 5 portions. Bought 3 already., Next 1 park at 0.85c. Till now, my average is 0.954c loh.....if really so lucky can go till 0.85 ah....then next 1 i park at 0.60c......see got so lucky o not....lol

drop is to let u buy la....lat year u kau peh kau bu and say no drop and price so high........now drop give 2nd chance to buy ma.....

I think either someone is having a margin call or he is determine to break 0.90c

i got park at 0.85 ohhh......

Hibiscus doing a sales marathon........140 continuous sell transactions and counting .....keng.....

Wah lau....seller very fierce oh.....breaking 0.90 soon.......is it good or a bad thing???/
Those not collected and intend to buy....extremely good
Those bought some and continue to average........ opportunity
Those have bought and can see but cannot do anything......bad......
Those have cutloss..........dunno what to say.......

Rm4.20 to 1USD. Production increase. Nitrile raw material cost down. Seem like all good for kossan.

When megasales? This 1 need to ask the excellent goosehen. He say Rm4. I wait till today also no see RM4. Well, KESM is on megasales. Mayb can go there support him 1st.

Wah...right issue announce, plunge 30%??? Then Private placement announce leh? Like that better go increase my margin account limit....lol. With both exercise, it is expected to dilute 20% .....all the best ya.....i shall wait for the excitement over 1st and then see got cheap bargain or not....

USD 4.20 a'dy, also nitrile rubber price drop.....sui sui for Harta and Kossan, With production increase, USD strengthen and raw material down.......apa lagi tunggu oh....

Ya. Harta is fake rebound but ur kesm is real drop oh.....

Chokhmah, dun like that leh. I dun take pleasure in that. Just consolation that not only me bought at high price. On the other hand, Philip investment alone in Pchem is probably 10 times my entire portfolio. Mayb his dividend in pchem alone = to my pchem holding.....Philip probably laughing back on that......lol

No need stress la. If it makes u feel better, i'm holding at higher price than u but I haven bought all my allocation yet la. Looking good time to start to average down. ......and to make myself feel better, i will look at Philip.....oppsss......philip, dun scold me. Merely looking for consolation

GooShen, where is the RM4? Harta firm firm at RM5 leh. In fact your Kesm down from your purchase price of RM 8.++. Now RM 6.87. You wish Harta to go down RM1 but mana tau is ur kesm. Sigh!!!!

Not bad wor.....KLCI stil can push back to 1600. I wonder which counter they support. The top 5 counter with biggest weightage mostly red leh.

i don't think epf buying back is not bcoz dividend ...since global market all failing, i don't think epf will waste the bullet by buying back to push it up to 1600.

0.92 match and support line also broken......I park next 1 at 0.85......

Broken 7....if close below 7.....good luck a'dy

Major shutdown current Q, Low average selling price, oversupply, less demand.......with this 4 reason......really die standing............TP6? i park 6.50. Let me take the bullet for u 1st.......heheh.....

Dayang sell oil meh?

dragoon...no yet reach my target price ohhh.....how? Wan buy also nobody sell....

Wah lau, with everyone racing to build a bigger plant and produce world record capacity....and on the other end, many countries are going into greener initiative by reducing single-use plastic, this is really a double whammy for petrochemical industry. I wonder how long Pchem can defend. I be waiting for it to break RM7. Possible 6.50

I still park at 0.92c...but with reduce qty....hehe.....lai lai lai....lelong lelong lelong.....

MAHza, interesting point but by your argument, I would say Dayang will then let the stock price down because it is more beneficiary for dayang if the share price is low and Dayang is the major shareholder of Perdana.

Dayang results sui sui but announces on the bad timing. Really unexpected it is China that up the game. How will today perform? Not sure will today gap up or not. I look thru Dayang prospect and director confidence say it will be better. That is a good sign. But then again having another thought. Everyone knows Dayang has 3billion project. Not sure how much has been utilised. But if take 3 billion up to 2022, meaning each Q will average do 250million. Revenue is similar to the current quarter and assuming earning about the same as well and with upcoming RI and private placement, the dilution will be 20%. The diluted eps should be around 4.6. Using golden rule, with the current pricing is should be around PE 8.5? Also, one blogger highlighted Dayang project in Turkmenistan.
The Caspian Sea is a sea by itself. I don't think current Dayang or Perdana vessel will be sent to support this project. More Capex on the way????

dexeric, it is not ah thumb shouting on the tariff. Yes, ah thumb tariff delay till 15th Dec but ah beng tariff of 75B starting 1st sept. The very quiet ah beng suddenly strike back silently. Really dun underestimates a silent dog. Can suddenly bite u and u die le

Jiak lat. Instead of ah thumb, now ah beng turn shouting in market. Ah beng is paying eye for an eya. 1st sept slapping additional tarif on US product.

All eyes glue on the screen and keep on clicking refresh......lol......
okla. have a good weekend everyone......

In 15 minutes time, we will know if it is a beautiful swam or ugly duckling......

dragooon.....who say gut is free??>.....need money 1 ok.......
u want more guts.......go wallop 1 bottle of whisky......i gurantee u kiang kiang click buy ah.....

buying opportunity???

i think everyone worry ah thumb gonna twit twit something over this weekend. that why market abit jittery.... :))

drop 5c can kena margin call ah??? keng leh.....

opss....just remember u park at 0.97.....meaning bought already?

dexeric, u still parking at 0.95 ah?.....matching soon ohh!!!

Looking at the chart in the reuters report, it seems like the average selling price has dropped 20% from January. This is before rapid come online by end of this year, Shell US petrochemical by 1H of next year and China petrochemical by 2H'20? Very similar to steel industry.

Perdana must complete the Debt restructuring before 31st Dec'19. Meaning there is about 4 months for them to announce the RI. Even though it will be fully subscribed if no other shareholder willing to subscribe, but doesn't it dilute the earning and the saving in interest seems meaningless in this exercise. Can anyone enlighten?

Perdana market cap is 253M but intend to raise up to 455M (min) and max of 506m??? meaning 1 perdana share will entitle to be 2 or 3 RI???

Is perdana also doing right issue? So Dayang is doing right issue to raise money for perdana and perdana is doing right issue to pay back money to dayang????

how to buy? no big drop also.....bought a'dy at 99c....then bought somemore at 97c.......now buy at 98c ah? seem not right leh.....buying on every cent......lol

will be further pressure on Pchem? if yes, very likely to break rm7. With oversupply and low average selling price, it definitely a double whammy for pchem. Similar to the steel industries and would it share the same faith as the steel counter? Time will tell.....

Wah lau eh. China seem to mass produce everything. From steel to textile to everything la. Market will be flooded with surplus of supply. Jiak lat ..

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-petrochemical-analysis/chinas-petrochemical-expansion-to-overwhelm-japan-south-korea-producers-idUSKCN1VA0US

from morning shouting gg.com but till now also no gg also.......make it gg 99 lat la.....

@dexeric....yes & no.

yes..... if it was release into the atmosphere ie; it consider as air pollution.
no ....if you harness it into a generator and generate electricity; similar to solar system and you even get paid if you apply the FIT.