In PADINI thread, I had did a simple analysis shows that the dividend is sustainable if everything remains the same (if i am not mistaken, it's ceterus paribus right ? Sorry if I am wrong as I'm not with a business background)
The only thing that buzz me is the purchasing of investment / unit trust of PADINI. The return rate , details are not disclosed properly.
Hi kcchongnz, great analysis on Padini. I do have a question:
What is the formula that you use for ROIC? The one that I know of is this:
ROIC = NOPAT/Invested Capital
whereby,
NOPAT = Operating income - (1 - Tax rate)
Invested Capital = Total Asset – Current Liabilities – Excess Cash
and whereby,
Excess Cash = Total Cash – MAX(0,Current Liabilities-Current Assets)
There are so many formulas and interpretation for Invested Capital especially and it's rather confusing. Based on the formula above, I am getting roughly 30% in ROIC whereas you get 40%.
I hope to hear your feedback on this matter. Thank you.
Agree with birkincollector. I will buy shirt that is cheapest(even from pasar malam or market or Tesco) if I can save money whenever appropriate to wear and not necessarily Padini shirt.
"Must have brands" and "big name designers" usually equal more $$$. In this kind of economic situation that our country is facing, do we buy really want to spend more on items that we might just not need?
“We buy things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people we don't like.”
Companies are cutting down on cost and laying off people. Even the government has announced budget cuts for some gov departments. Surely a typical working class Malaysian will be affected by the economic situation as well. They will be looking to buy something for a great value, like Padini which still have brand recognition. Padini knows the market needs and cater well to them.
Posted by shinado > Nov 7, 2015 10:00 AM | Report Abuse
Hi kcchongnz, great analysis on Padini. I do have a question:
What is the formula that you use for ROIC? The one that I know of is this:
ROIC = NOPAT/Invested Capital
whereby,
NOPAT = Operating income - (1 - Tax rate)
Invested Capital = Total Asset – Current Liabilities – Excess Cash
and whereby,
Excess Cash = Total Cash – MAX(0,Current Liabilities-Current Assets)
There are so many formulas and interpretation for Invested Capital especially and it's rather confusing. Based on the formula above, I am getting roughly 30% in ROIC whereas you get 40%.
I hope to hear your feedback on this matter. Thank you.
Parkson used to flying high in the mid 2000 when the economy of China grew at more than 10%.
Unfortunately good days never last. With slow down of China economy and the steep competitions, its growth faltered.
I don't remember I said Parkson is such a good company now. May be I did mention that it was cheap, and with good cash flows.
Posted by ks55 > Nov 7, 2015 11:43 AM | Report Abuse
kcchongnz -- Thank you to write about Padini, I am in total agreement with you Padini is a growth stock and having potential.
I also come across you did mention Parkson Holding Bhd as a good stock. I believe Warren Buffet of Malaysia Mr Tan Teng Boo thinks alike, so icap bought into Parkson Holding Bhd at average cost around 5.2 ringgit a piece in 2007/8 and still holding until today.
So based on your understanding on Parkson Holding Bhd, it should be as good as Padini as a growth stock.
May I ask what could be the reasons Parkson Holding Bhd's share price drifted until 99 sen? Surely there must have something go very very wrong.........
I would like to locate the pitfalls for counters having similar symptoms in Bursa Malaysia and to avoid mistake. Tq.
Posted by shinado > Nov 7, 2015 02:30 PM | Report Abuse
"Must have brands" and "big name designers" usually equal more $$$. In this kind of economic situation that our country is facing, do we buy really want to spend more on items that we might just not need?
“We buy things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people we don't like.”
Companies are cutting down on cost and laying off people. Even the government has announced budget cuts for some gov departments. Surely a typical working class Malaysian will be affected by the economic situation as well. They will be looking to buy something for a great value, like Padini which still have brand recognition. Padini knows the market needs and cater well to them.
Agree with Birkin collector, padini lacks a killer value proposition in their product offering. Uniqlo has a real competing edge on using technology and good quality materials yet priced competitively. It's really my favorite casual wear. And it's very obvious that while there are clearly shopping crowds with bags at uniqlo, the ones at padini are significantly fewer and more worryingly, holding no shopping bags from the stores.
H&M is a Sweedish company and listed in Stockholm market...you want to invest there meh. Bursa tak cukup makan???? Hmmm....bf change taste....when he's going to change girlfriend too?????
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Posted by CFTrader > 2015-11-07 01:56 | Report Abuse
In PADINI thread, I had did a simple analysis shows that the dividend is sustainable if everything remains the same (if i am not mistaken, it's ceterus paribus right ? Sorry if I am wrong as I'm not with a business background)
The only thing that buzz me is the purchasing of investment / unit trust of PADINI.
The return rate , details are not disclosed properly.