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paperplane2016

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Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-05-26 19:59 |

Post removed.Why?

ongkkh

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Posted by ongkkh > 2016-05-26 20:04 | Report Abuse

Huat together Icon

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2016-05-26 20:10 | Report Abuse

Be careful lor.

Did you overlooked that AirAsia Debt has BALLOONED FROM

RM81 BILLIONS TO RM86 BILLIONS ALREADY?

A Business That Keeps On PIling Up Horrendous Amount of Every Increasing Debt is Not A Good Sustainable model

See what happened to all who went GaGa over Knm shares at peak prices?

Icon8888

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-05-26 20:12 | Report Abuse

Don't worry about our Air Asia, you just take care of your Jayatiasa. It is bleeding like stock take

Koon Bee

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Posted by Koon Bee > 2016-05-26 20:16 | Report Abuse

Calvin pls take care your own stock jtiasa...wakakakaka...bleeding like no tomorrow

Koon Bee

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Posted by Koon Bee > 2016-05-26 20:17 | Report Abuse

Calvin..do you overlook the (-ve) as (+ve) on company result for jtiasa?? Wakakakakka

Posted by buddyinvest > 2016-05-26 20:18 | Report Abuse

Calvin "hai si" lim peh.

Posted by buddyinvest > 2016-05-26 20:19 | Report Abuse

Luckily, Icon8888 "kiu" lim peh

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2016-05-26 20:21 | Report Abuse

Posted by calvintaneng > May 26, 2016 08:18 PM | Report Abuse X

All have missed AirAsia's Bloated Debt Bubble!

DEBT HAS NOW SURGE BY ANOTHER RM5 BILLIONS FROM RM81 BILLIONS TO RM85 BILLIONS

At earnings like now IT WILL TAKE AT LEAST 42 YEARS TO PAY OFF ALL AIRASIA'S DEBT.

Now the advantage of cheap oil might be lessen. Plus 8 Low Cost airlines are now in fierce competition with AirAsia & AAX

And according to AirAsia's report. Per passenger profit has decreased even though the number of passengers have increased.

This model of competing on lower and lower cost is unsustainable in the long run.

Shares will be passed from bullish hands to foolish hands now!

Tomorrow Calvin advise all to sell into strength. Many sorchai who are still ignorant will be buying

Now or Never!

Koon Bee

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Posted by Koon Bee > 2016-05-26 20:24 | Report Abuse

Only Calvin sochai never buy airasia keep shouting negative words on airasia..diu

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2016-05-26 20:28 |

Post removed.Why?

cheated

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Posted by cheated > 2016-05-26 20:28 | Report Abuse

I don't think Calvin is Christian. Christianity don't teach jealousy or telling lies like what Calvin does.

angku

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Posted by angku > 2016-05-26 20:32 | Report Abuse

Sell cats sell dogs buy Airasia?

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2016-05-26 20:33 | Report Abuse

Posted by cheated > May 26, 2016 08:28 PM | Report Abuse

I don't think Calvin is Christian. Christianity don't teach jealousy or telling lies like what Calvin does.

Calvin replies,

You are correct that Calvin does not act from jealousy. You are definitely wrong to say Calvin tell lies.

Last time I should have warned my friends who risked their monies chasing shares at peak prices.

One Mr N from Batu Pahat lost Rm5 millions and gone into hiding

Mr Ho from SP Motor lost Rm3 millions and also gone into hiding

So my hope is to save some from future bankruptcy

I don't know whether you understand or not.

But time will tell

probability

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Posted by probability > 2016-05-26 20:34 | Report Abuse

Alamak... now Connie sure dump Duit for Icon already...

moneySIFU

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Posted by moneySIFU > 2016-05-26 20:39 | Report Abuse

Come on, if you don't agree, argue with facts, attacking personal faith is kind of moron act.

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cheated I don't think Calvin is Christian. Christianity don't teach jealousy or telling lies like what Calvin does.
26/05/2016 20:28

silom

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Posted by silom > 2016-05-26 20:40 | Report Abuse

someone only talked bout the past, can't see or don't acknowledge present, can he see future ? haha

moneySIFU

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Posted by moneySIFU > 2016-05-26 20:43 | Report Abuse

Well done, Icon, good analysis.

moneySIFU

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Posted by moneySIFU > 2016-05-26 20:45 | Report Abuse

Calvin, you are the brave one, not too bad if we can have different views. Hope all get what you wish.

Posted by shareinvestor88 > 2016-05-26 20:45 | Report Abuse

Dear calvin ru sure the debt level ?

Ven Felix

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Posted by Ven Felix > 2016-05-26 20:46 | Report Abuse

Icon8888 really pros on putting an easy understood article like this for ikan biliz like me.
Investment Bank analysis won't present it that way.
Thanks again Icon8888.

cheated

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Posted by cheated > 2016-05-26 20:49 | Report Abuse

AA at peak? I read your post before that you bought Neoh Soon Kean SPG Sep'15 edition. What is AA peak price? I doubt you dare to tell the truth.

Posted by calvintaneng > May 26, 2016 08:33 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by cheated > May 26, 2016 08:28 PM | Report Abuse

I don't think Calvin is Christian. Christianity don't teach jealousy or telling lies like what Calvin does.

Calvin replies,

You are correct that Calvin does not act from jealousy. You are definitely wrong to say Calvin tell lies.

Last time I should have warned my friends who risked their monies chasing shares at peak prices.

One Mr N from Batu Pahat lost Rm5 millions and gone into hiding

Mr Ho from SP Motor lost Rm3 millions and also gone into hiding

So my hope is to save some from future bankruptcy

I don't know whether you understand or not.

But time will tell

silom

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Posted by silom > 2016-05-26 20:51 | Report Abuse

to be fair to Calvin, he see things differently. His investment must be backed by strong tangible assets such as land, property, cash and etc, even the company is not making money he may say it is under value.

Ven Felix

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Posted by Ven Felix > 2016-05-26 20:52 | Report Abuse

A words to Calvintaneng, there is no 100% counter that can fit every body . 
Even wife oso can't satisfy all your fantasy things.
As long AA. Keep on making money, who care how long A.A.going to fully settle the Syndicate loan.
The longer the better.

Posted by Erhern Ooi > 2016-05-26 20:55 | Report Abuse

Nice one Icon8888. Always provide a superb analysis.

beso

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Posted by beso > 2016-05-26 20:55 | Report Abuse

airasia total debt 12.617b ringgit

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2016-05-26 21:02 | Report Abuse

Posted by beso > May 26, 2016 08:55 PM | Report Abuse

airasia total debt 12.617b ringgit

NO!!

Creative accounting!

AIRASIA TOTAL DEBT COMMITMENT IS NOT RM12 BILLIONS

ACTUAL COMMITED DEBT IS A WHOPPING RM86 BILLIONS

EIGHT SIX THOUSAND MILLION IN DEBT NOW!

AAX DEBT HAS BALLOONED TO RM103 BILLIONS!

REALLY MIND BOGGLING

beso

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Posted by beso > 2016-05-26 21:04 | Report Abuse

so both are time bomb

MuttonCurry

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Posted by MuttonCurry > 2016-05-26 21:05 | Report Abuse

I can just imagine the conversation tomorrow :

AA-01 Pilot: Ahem ... control tower this AA approaching runway 215 ready for take-off. Request permission .. over.

Control Tower : AA-01 Permission denied. Please proceed to runway 220 for takeoff ETA 0900 .. Over

AA Pilot : Roger Control Tower. TQ

AA Co-Pilot : Cabin crew please arm exit doors. Some comedians are currently trying to hijack our plane and asking us to take runway 200.

Stewardess : Roger ... crew please assemble for seat belt buckle briefing to our valued investors ... ahem customers.

Posted by keluang_man > 2016-05-26 21:05 |

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Ricky Kiat

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Posted by Ricky Kiat > 2016-05-26 21:48 | Report Abuse

calvin, in this case ,i am not agree with u, Air Asia is nothing like IFca & sumatech, Air asia already became one of famous Brand name in malaysia. Nowadays, many youth are using AA travel outside malaysia every year(they very like travel,sometime twice a year),i can foresee the trend still continue in many years.Further more, oil price will continue remain low in 2 -3 years. if the business still going well ,the debt are doesn't big matter . that's why Tony are inject 1 Billion into Air Asia. sometime ,we should use the businessman or entrepreneur perspective instead of accountant.

Posted by 股海無涯 > 2016-05-26 21:52 | Report Abuse

haha, i talk to lizard in my house 1st, i thk they dont have any objection if i sell them

hissyu2

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Posted by hissyu2 > 2016-05-26 22:01 | Report Abuse

hahaha... annualized eps = 48cents... hahahaha

silom

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Posted by silom > 2016-05-26 22:05 | Report Abuse

check with lizard ? haha ... the most creative one, got some sifu check feng shui like metal, wood, some sifu check weather like El Niño, some sifu watch movie to check if market crash and etc etc haha

Posted by Money_Master > 2016-05-26 22:13 | Report Abuse

Go....Go....Go

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2016-05-26 22:19 | Report Abuse

Posted by Ricky Kiat > May 26, 2016 09:48 PM | Report Abuse

calvin, in this case ,i am not agree with u, Air Asia is nothing like IFca & sumatech, Air asia already became one of famous Brand name in malaysia. Nowadays, many youth are using AA travel outside malaysia every year(they very like travel,sometime twice a year),i can foresee the trend still continue in many years.Further more, oil price will continue remain low in 2 -3 years. if the business still going well ,the debt are doesn't big matter . that's why Tony are inject 1 Billion into Air Asia. sometime ,we should use the businessman or entrepreneur perspective instead of accountant.

Ricky? Rickety?

Last time when I warned those fellas to sell Sunatech at 60 cents they say Sumatech is different. Different from delisted Patimas?

All who didn't sell got caught in SudaTrap

Then I warned IFCA people like Orionpacific, Cyborg, NancyTang, Crischan, Taka, Russian & others in IFCA when it was around Rm1.30 to Rm1.80

All in unison said that IFCA is different. Different from SudaTrap? And how can Calvin a nobody lone ranger be correct if CIMB Research confidently predicted that IFCA will reach Rm2.20?

I don't know how far MR MARKET & His Sorchai will push rickety AirAsia up tomorrow. But this I know for certainty - those who failed to sell into strength at peak prices will suffer the same fate of SudaTrap & IFCA.

"THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT" Or "THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT" is the Most Expensive and Costly Phrase I know.

MuttonCurry

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Posted by MuttonCurry > 2016-05-26 22:24 | Report Abuse

Sorry ... the flight fully booked tomorrow morning. You can buy into Jaya Tiasa airline. That one flights all on fire-sale tomorrow ... Better yet buy in the evening ... it will really be on fire .... hehehehehe

dami

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Posted by dami > 2016-05-26 22:36 | Report Abuse

calvin predicted palm oil to go to 6000. Tells you a lot about is mentality.

dami

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Posted by dami > 2016-05-26 22:36 | Report Abuse

or lack of it.

Ricky Kiat

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Posted by Ricky Kiat > 2016-05-26 22:43 | Report Abuse

for stock market , short term like vote machine , long term like weight machine. time will tell . let see how air asia perform in year end...cheers...

paperplane2016

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Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-05-26 22:47 | Report Abuse

Calvin bro, pls come here. Let have war.

paperplane2016

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Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-05-26 22:49 | Report Abuse

Don't forget oil 50

Air_Asia

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Posted by Air_Asia > 2016-05-26 23:00 | Report Abuse

Nice show between Icon8888 vs Calvin. See neutral IBs' side who tomorrow? Will Macquerie(IB with highest TP RM 3.50) revise TP even higher?

HJey

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Posted by HJey > 2016-05-26 23:00 | Report Abuse

World chocolate failure calvintaneng has become world champion liar. Well, within my expectation calvintaneng will be no1 liar

Maybe I'm God favourite son because I keep on winning. I really don't know why. Calvintaneng, don't angry with me on why I have all the good luck. And don't lose sleep because you're too angry. It's bad for your health. I play with you when I have time next time

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-27 01:07 | Report Abuse

its about breakeven .....without the associate and forex help.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-27 01:16 | Report Abuse

$ 11 billion bank borrowings

$ 1 billion investments in associates.....they gave you all the profits.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-27 01:18 | Report Abuse

this Tony want to buy another $ 80 billion of planes.

paperplane2016

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Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-05-27 08:29 | Report Abuse

Expanding of course lah.

jjs02100

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Posted by jjs02100 > 2016-05-27 08:51 | Report Abuse

buy in or sell out??? for me is buy in...later sure got people ask "still can buy" or "so how"?

Jeffyap

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Posted by Jeffyap > 2016-05-27 08:52 | Report Abuse

31cents EPS for a quarter LOL
imagine they remain it for 4 quarters!!!!!
124sens with P/E 5 the share price will be 6.2!!!!!

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