Btw...u can...make 100% on jaks....by keep on buying jaks loh....!! Once....the buying stop....u r a dead duck loh....!! KYY....it holding loads & loads of Jaks hoping to unload to those who follow him buy mah.....!!
But....it is not easy loh.....to unload this poor fundamental & overvalue stock to the public....hoping there are many fools around loh.....!!
U must understand KYY is a businessman....his monies are make come from selling...Gamuda, Mudajaya and IJM shares as a businessman b4 he retire mah.....!!
KYY is never a good share investors like he now claimed loh....look at his disaster investment into Xinguan, Msports and Jtiasa u will understand loh.....!!
If people look for investment guidance better look for KC....try to avoid conman KYY loh....!! He is never a good investor loh....!!
Kyy...can promote himself as a superinvestor loh....but don get conned loh.....his track record prove otherwise loh....!! BTW last year stock pick contest....KYY ended almost last loh...!!
Based on raider's explaination....finally u can understand why KYY need to be a parasite.....feeding on naive....uncle & aunties....despite the consequence bad karma.....for kyy conning action loh....!!
KYY cannot help it loh.....other than to cheat loh.....bcos he is really a lousy investor loh....!!
Words say: "if things are not under one's control, everything is gamble". This is easily seen in equity market, no one in the equity market can guarantee all time winner, this including warren buffet. I believe KYY and your good-self got hit jackpots many many times before but would also got some setback before. I do enjoy reading both of your articles if posted individually, and less prefer on this type of controversial article. Just my view only.
Well said. Keep it up, Calvin. I think this forum needs contrasting views so that fools don't get easily slaughtered. As usual, most players lose money and only a handful make money. So, don't be a fool to buy companies showing losses hoping to make money in the future. Don't put hard earned money on hope.Go and buy good companies in the market now who are at single digit PE selling for a song.
Why keep on harping about the past? It is the present that counts. Let's face it, whether we like it or not, KYY has transformed to a super investor. Give credit where it is due. For the records, to date, I have not purchased any of the shares he promoted.
excellent discussion...On the other note, any examples of listed companies which fall in the category "SHIPS POWERED BY INTERNAL COMBUSTION" if you care to share. Thanks in advance
Whole market up a lot lately.....never hear much people say ...currently way overvalued. Opposite is in fact true. People are inventing excuses why every share they come across is still under valued despite huge recent appreciations..all except things they are biased.
okdoke excellent discussion...On the other note, any examples of listed companies which fall in the category "SHIPS POWERED BY INTERNAL COMBUSTION" if you care to share. Thanks in advance 04/04/2017 23:37
Calvin replies:
I think the best advise I could offer for now is this:
Go buy these books & study them carefully:
1) THE INTELLIGENT INVESTOR by Benjamin Graham
2) ONE UP ON WALL STREET
3) BEATING THE STREET
No. 2 & 3 by Peter Lynch
4. COMMON STOCKS UNCOMMON PROFITS - Philip Fisher
And this one below I read with interest but I don't follow (only to see inside the mind of a gambler)
5) Reminiscences of A Stock Operator - Edwin Lefevre
so many tin kosong shares, Ace Market shares really up 100%, 200% attracts much less comments about way over valued. But this IPP shares gets such rave reviews.......lol
Nothing wrong with uncle Koon accumulating at RM1.00 level lah. It is true that few years ago Jaks was at 40 sen, but the risk profile was significantly higher
By then, It has incurred a lot of expenses on Vietnam project yet failed repeatedly to secure a JV partner. During that time, china and Vietnam also clashed at sea. If vietnam government lost patience and cancel the license , they will go PN17
The dustbin of bursa is littered with failed investment attempts such as Sumatec, Hisbiscus, etc
If not with perseverance and right conditions plus a bit of luck, Jaks can easily go bankrupt during that time
From risk reward point of view, to buy at 40 sen is a gamble, to buy now at around RM1.00 is an investment
Like that also need me to explain. No wonder still planting durian trees in iskandar
Jaks at 40 cts with Nta of Rm1.15 has a discount of 66% which is a huge margin of safety. This is in line with the teachings of Ben Graham and also Dr. Neoh Soon Kean.
And Jaks at Rm1.00 with Nta of Rm1.15 has only a 14% discount to Nta. So if strictly sticking to Ben Graham 30% discount to Nta Jaks is not attractive to Value Investor.
Now there is no guarantee that Jaks will make monies in Vietnam. See how Uncle KYY projection for Mudajaya powerplant profits failed to materialised?
Vietnam being involved with prolonged war with US still has long way to develop its infrarstructure. So the hassle of
1. Setting up power plants 2. Distribution through electric power poles, grid and cables 3. Sale of electricity and its demand
will ential lots and lots of time.
Meanwhile the speed of Uncle Kyy selling his Canone, Lihen, Latitude, Vs and other shares to support Jaks is not based on fundamental.
This is a form of manipulation which will end in tears when the buying peaked and next few quarter results of Jaks disappoint.
So icon8888 you don't be a hero. Or else you might end up like mikekong55 @ newman who ultimately led many past i3 forumers to holland.
To all fellow forumers.
Please study carefully and invest carefully your hard earned monies.
for once I actually agree with calvin. after dropping to RM1, it's not strange for it to rebound but from RM1.30 onwards to RM1.70, there seems to be a strong cornering of the shares. my guess is kyy is just doubling his bet to push it up high enough to give him enough margin to pare down. he has almost RM200m margin stuck in Jaks which doesn't pay dividend. he can't really afford to be patient unlike those who bought with cash
that said, profit is profit. so for those who are profiting from Jaks now just be aware of the risks
JAKS RESOURCES BERHAD (“JRB” OR “COMPANY”) PROPOSED JOINT VENTURE BETWEEN JAKS POWER HOLDING LIMITED (“JPH”) AND WUHAN KAIDI ELECTRIC POWER ENGINEERING CO., LTD (“KAIDI”) TO INVEST IN A 2 X 600 MEGAWATT COAL-FIRED THERMAL POWER PLANT (“PROPOSED JOINT VENTURE”) This announcement is dated 30 October 2013. We refer to the circular to shareholders dated 13 June 2013 (“Circular”) and the subsequent announcement dated 28 June 2013 and 3 September 2013 in relation to the Proposed Joint Venture. Unless otherwise stated, the definitions used throughout this announcement shall have the same meaning as defined in the Circular. On behalf of the Board, AmInvestment Bank wishes to announce that JRB Group and Kaidi had vide JPP’s letter to Kaidi dated 30 October 2013, mutually agreed to further extend the cut-off date to enable Kaidi to fulfil its obligations under the conditions precedent as set out in the Kaidi Subscription Agreement from the expiry of 30 October 2013 to 31 March 2014. In addition, AmInvestment Bank wishes to inform that JPP has written to MOIT to seek a waiver for JPP and/or JHDP from achieving the Financial Close by 30 October 2013 (“Proposed Waiver”). As at the date of this announcement, JRB Group is awaiting for MOIT’s decision for the Proposed Waiver.
JAKS is going to lose its RM 60.2 million security deposit placed with MOIT because it cannot get the loan to finance the project to achieve the Financial Close by 30 October 2013.
RM 60.2 million security deposit gone. This will effect JAKS badly. See paragraph 5.2 of this circular.....
This book is the result of the author's many years of experience and observation throughout his 26 years in the stockbroking industry. It was written for general public to learn to invest based on facts and not on fantasies or hearsay....
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specially dedicated to PLPman