In the stock market, no one can be 100% correct, and no one can be 100% wrong. Everyone can has their own preference stock, some like tech stock, some like glove, some like industrial, some like plantation...etc. Everyone can have their own method of analysis, some like Fundamental, some like Technical chart, some like trending analysis, some like insider news.
OTB never attack KYY whether his buy/sell call is correct or not, but KYY keep attack OTB on his sell/buy call, this is not good.
If KYY you are good and accurate, people will see and they will automatic agreed with your point, If OTB is not good and not accurate, people will also see and they will not subscribe for his services anymore, you no need to come here post everyday.
Geezer is a big liar that has repeatedly committed these shameful tricks yet his diehards will still carry him around like their IDOL. People have short memories and this is what Geezer capitalise on. Please sell whatever shares he buys so that he cannot manipulate the stock.
otb is sincere sifu i know in i3. he is consistent in his stock recommendation, he will not praise a stock one day and then hentam the same stock the next day.
Posted by Sslee > Jul 28, 2021 9:12 AM | Report Abuse
Haha qqq3, China Tech stocks are on firesale. Can go and pick up some. ===========
at least got life......companies really growing and conquering the world.
last few days , its Americans capitalists selling socialist China....China clam down on tuition schools is good for China but capitalists call it socialism................ China think and acts long term, capitalists trades shares.
I think very few people are bothered about the spat between KYY and OTB. What I am concerned about is do not come here to mislead and lie to the participants here.I am shock KYY can use Supermax in his arguement against OTB.
I noticed Kyy misled people here with his Supermax articles a few months ago.
He posted the following "Supermax: My last sermon - Koon Yew Yin" asking people to buy Supermax on 28.2.2021. [ By the way he had for days earlier non stop asking people to buy this stock. You can check in i3 yourself ]. In the article he put the following in bold letters. "Based on PE 10, my target price is Rm 15.40 which is easily achievable. Supermax cannot continue to drop for whatever reason. Sooner or later, it must rebound. It will shoot up very rapidly to reach my target price."
However, on 3.3.2021 he posted the following article tell people he SOLD . He said " Fortunately, I sold all my Supermax about 3 weeks ago instead of buying more at cheaper prices to average down." and he further added "Readers must ignore all my previous buy recommendations for Supermax."
I did recommend Supermx when the share price was at 4.70 based on TA. The share price went up to 6.20 and retraced back to 5.60. I recommend to add position on Supermx again at 5.60.
1) The stock he recommended is always where he had already purchased in bulk and sell down to retailers when the stock is at peak. No wrong he is doing that. But when stocks are good he will say better and going to be the best.
2) If you want to follow his boat, you have to jump in earlier and follow his direction until he say the best you must know how to escape and sell.
3) If you can't control your mind set in playing a repeating stock, you will get framed eventually.
Weak point from OTB 1) Until third wave uptrend only he will recommend the stock. He used to follow the global news including the research from the investment Bank. Sorry, i personally will not trust the investment bank. When good results are out only buy but mostly this will end up with higher purchase cost.
2) Over confident to most of the stocks he recommended. Diversification in many stocks will never make big money. He always recommend too many stocks indeed and many hot stocks are hooked and many retailers are losing money.
The above are our good investment masters, but the trend of investment is changing from time to time. CROCODILES are watching them.
Such a great man as kyy is, yet he main main stupit low liner AT n even he taught us the arithmetic of calculating AT's business ! He also took a photo with AT factory to make his undeletable history with AT.
I did recommend Supermx when the share price was at 4.70 based on TA. The share price went up to 6.20 and retraced back to 5.60. I recommend to add position on Supermx again at 5.60.
My point is not about stock pick. Any super investor/chartist can make a wrong call. it is up to each individual to think and act. My point is never post any article asking people to buy but at the same time you sell your stock. That is cheating to me.
Share price trading is based on future earnings. The current 'discounted' share price already priced in the covid lockdown and disruption. Steel companies probably will report unrealised valuation gain on their inventory due to higher steel price in 2020-2021.
OTB may make some mistakes. However, OTB is a genuine person. 4-5 years back, KYY quarrel and attack KC after KC helping him. Now he is attacking OTB. KYY can harap or not ? Just ask the ppl who followed his call to buy Dayang, Glove stock, Steel Stock. Every time after KYY sold a counter, he will come and curse the counter. KYY is a sadistic person. Avoid at all cost.
i prefer KYY style, when he recommends i enter and get small chunks of profit. at least to me it is a signal or almost a warranty that the counter will rise 2-3 days and i will get out!
Also, if people pay and subscribe to your tip, when the counter did not perform as you recommended, then be prepared to be smeared, as they got the right to Fcuk you.
Jul 21, 2021 11:05 AM | Report Abuse
A lesson to learn from humanity, when you recommend stock to someone, if it goes up, a few will say thank you, the rest would not and profit by it. And the next one you recommend ends up in the dump, many will curse you and forever etches in their mind you as a conman. It's better not to give advice even though you place a caveat.
As much as we all like to debate and see who is right or wrong, all readers must understand that arguments never made your pockets flush with cash...
All readers must realise that only the numbawan top pick Shure win Recovery and Value and Growth stock Genting (3182) can make you grow your portfolio. When it cannot go down anymore,the only way is up
just for the sake of newbies..(Pls Read) I would like to share my perspective on OTB and KYY.
I was OTB's subscriber from Q4 2016 till Q4 2017. For RM 1000 he does provide a lot of stocks FA and self help materials to study. I still make use some of his excel sheets and self help stuff till today. As a newbie this is what should be very helpful to you. As for his stock recommendations, I try to buy as immediately as possible and still my buy price would be very high. sometimes I genuinely feel his very rich subscribers like KYY will get 1st dip and then only the recommendation will be spread to ikan bilis like us. so be cautions. and OTB always say his subscribers laughing all the way to the bank. surprisingly i was always crying to the bank. I lost alot alot of my hard earned money following his recommendations. Example ATTA-LA, Gamuda-we, mysteel and few others. Of course some of these stocks recovered buy i already sold. So i stop following any recommendations from "Sifus". I buy my own stocks and sell when i feel like selling suddenly i was making money and not losing. so dont follow these guys. You can subscribe to learn but don follow them.
as for KYY. he is a very very vindictive old men. Im sure he has caused many OTB's subscribers to lose money. if you don't like some recommendation you don't buy and you shut up la. many times after OTB provided recommendations KYY will come out with very bad article about OTB's recommended stock just because OTB will not recommend JAKS to his followers. This KYY fellow will keep repeating about his old glories and he believes he is a warren buffet. infact this guy is a trader preying on ikan bilis to pump his stocks. and he will attack someone he if that person does not agree with him. my advise to newbies.. learn from OTB but don't follow blindly. Stay far far very far away from anything KYY touches.
Everyone is affected by the pandemic/this difficult time, some more, some less But There are 2 ways to look at Life. = No1. "I am an educated person, analyse data rationality to make calculated risk as the conclusion, a scientist who would take in relevant formula to make decision, I don't imagine things, no miracle, or I am not an illusionist..." 2. I believe that the Creator is running the show, from small things to big things, nothing can happened without His approval. Women is more emotional than men. Men are following their brains more than their hearts....unless men are following their hearts and would decide to bail a friend (who are very kind to you earlier) out from the jail with RM50,000 and suffer for many months to come else the brains would say "Why bail a friend who violated the laws?" How to become a righteous man? How to become a wicked man?
IF God punish a person who violated His rules immediately, like morning you cheated a friend, evening God send a wheelbarrow and moving you to the garbage dump, then who will dare to steal?
Both reward and punishment do not come immediately. Therefore, continue to do the right things for the rewards from God, are awaiting in the world to come, in the Heavens.
So much drama about Kyy and Otb. Both I don’t follow lah even being given free tips from them. Nobody is Stock God. So, rely on yourself lah.
If Otb is that good, he doesn’t need any subscriptions fees. Otb just trading alone and laughing all the way to the bank.
If Kyy is that good, he doesn’t need to link his blogs writings to i3 to directly influence i3 newbies Bilis. Kyy can stop writing his predictions in his blog which is linked to i3 and making tonnes of money alone lah.
I am a very mature Bilis who have seen all the tricks of Bursa sharks and Bursa influencers. WAKE UP BILIS. During Covid time, Bilis must be wiser already.
They want supporters so when they call a buy, sardines follow to sustain stock prices. By itself can move prices, herd buying in and selling off if credible can scared the shit out of owners/bankers. But seldom find such a stock genius that has the charisma of people like Warren Buffet.
wah lau...I smell bad blood but it looks like to kids throwing tantrums and telling the whole class who is the bad boy that doesn't wash his willy after pee. Anyway, all I say is both have 1 similarity. Afterload up and then only let their follower or subscriber know.
This book is the result of the author's many years of experience and observation throughout his 26 years in the stockbroking industry. It was written for general public to learn to invest based on facts and not on fantasies or hearsay....
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Posted by bnmacai > 2021-07-28 10:40 | Report Abuse
Hahaha. I bought some popcorn.