Posted by CKNG8291 > 2020-12-21 20:21 | Report Abuse

It is penny stock and will end up to 0.5 soon.

Posted by tradesafely > 2020-12-21 20:23 | Report Abuse

another question is do we really need fill and finish? what if they already come in ready vials?

in what circumstances do you think China company will make you profit RM10 per head, and let you distribute to all SEA countries?

sweet fairy tale.

Posted by TATOWER > 2020-12-21 20:24 | Report Abuse

MOH already approved Solution fill n finish facilities.

Posted by tradesafely > 2020-12-21 20:26 | Report Abuse

and where is that facility now? in thin air?

Posted by tradesafely > 2020-12-21 20:30 | Report Abuse

again, i reiterate my intention here is to point out that the current price is illogical to enter.

potential upside, if any, is pure speculation.
potential downside: you're looking at a bottomless pit.

those who have entered low, congrats and there's no point asking you all to sell because most of you have fallen in love with this counter. good luck.

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 20:39 | Report Abuse

*Only 30 % of population is from the purchase of Pfizer in line with the Government proposal.

* 70% is from other sources .

* 35% (half of 70%)of population is assumed from the purchase of solu,that is 10 million people( 35% x total population of 30 m )

* profit margin after tax (PAT) is rm 10 per bottle per head (min) assumed to be derived from sale of solu ,that is rm 100 million profit after tax ( rm 10 x10 m).

Note the profit margin after tax of rm 10 per bottle per head is considered very low.it is believed to be higher than rm 10.

* solu share base is 364 million

* expected EPS would be rm 0.27( rm 100m / 364 million shares)

*modest PE is assumed to be 10

*TP would be rm 2.70( min)

In conclusion,the current price is justifiable...

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-21 20:39 | Report Abuse

government can approve fill and finish is just for normal process as any company also can apply to set up such plant in msia. This doesnt mean you get the vaccine order. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-21 20:41 | Report Abuse

Cansino 3rd phase trial is the last among the 3 chinese vaccine makers. last one how to win the race. thats why didnt get many pre order yet. Correct?

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 20:43 | Report Abuse

1.fill and finish layout has been approved by NPRA.

2.setting up in progress

3.fill and finish is ready pending shipment from abroad.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-21 20:43 | Report Abuse

someone counting eggs again but others are counting purple notes. Correct?

Posted by tradesafely > 2020-12-21 20:44 | Report Abuse

joyvest *Only 30 % of population is from the purchase of Pfizer in line with the Government proposal.

* 70% is from other sources .

* 35% (half of 70%)of population is assumed from the purchase of solu,that is 10 million people( 35% x total population of 30 m )

* profit margin after tax (PAT) is rm 10 per bottle per head (min) assumed to be derived from sale of solu ,that is rm 100 million profit after tax ( rm 10 x10 m).

Note the profit margin after tax of rm 10 per bottle per head is considered very low.it is believed to be higher than rm 10.

* solu share base is 364 million

* expected EPS would be rm 0.27( rm 100m / 364 million shares)

*modest PE is assumed to be 10

*TP would be rm 2.70( min)

In conclusion,the current price is justifiable...


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So every year they sell different vaccine?

PE10 = 10 years, 10 different vaccines with equal profits?

Posted by tradesafely > 2020-12-21 20:47 | Report Abuse

even if in the best case scenario of the profits mentioned by joyvest above:

1) how is it sustainable?

2) no need any cost - facilities, staffs, logistics... RM10 per head so easy like that? then why don't every company do this as well?

it is at best a one-off 27 cents per share in REVENUE, not PROFIT.

Posted by Tyco > 2020-12-21 21:00 | Report Abuse

Solution to follow soon and could be tomorrow ?

calvintaneng Bintai pilot and assistant pilot both paracuted

This bintai plane will crash

Only matter of time

Sell all and don't look back
21/12/2020 6:01 PM

Posted by James89 > 2020-12-21 21:02 | Report Abuse

ESOS - 50,000 shares at 0.175.

Laugh die me at the current price. Ppl above 1.8 really gg

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 21:07 | Report Abuse

*Eps is 27cent

*rm10 is pat per bottle per head net of exp.

*Othef companies are not authorised. Too bad

*solu is using equity finance.its reflected in EPS

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 21:08 | Report Abuse

Profit margin after tax of rm 10 is very minimal..

Posted by flyborn > 2020-12-21 21:18 | Report Abuse

Another 20 cents drop tomolo
Good

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-21 21:19 | Report Abuse

SINGAPORE: Singapore received its first shipment of COVID-19 vaccines on Monday (Dec 21) evening, making it the first country in Asia to take in the vaccine developed by Pfizer and BioNTech.


Solution plant havent take first order yet kah? correct?

Posted by Tyco > 2020-12-21 21:20 | Report Abuse

You think collecting toll ? 10.00 ?

Your Bintai already auto pilot because no pilot joydownsouth

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-21 21:22 | Report Abuse

why singapore can be the first nation in Asia to receive Pfizer vaccine. Anyone know? multiple choice question.

1. connection
2. rich nation
3. shareholder of the vaccine company

anyone want to answer?

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 21:26 | Report Abuse

the pharmaceutical giant ,Pfizer will charge the government around $39 for a two-dose treatment based on Pfizer’s contract with the U.S., and it will cost around $15 to manufacture

Gross profit margin is 60%+++

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 21:27 | Report Abuse

Usd 39 dollars .....

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 21:27 | Report Abuse

Net profit nargin could be 30%

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-21 21:33 | Report Abuse

Sinovac charged usd60 in china at initial period lah. you know kah? expensive than pfizer. pfizer using new technology to produce vaccine. Oxford only usd 3 to USD 4 only. how about cansino price? expensive or cheap? why so few order ? who want to pay? Cansino and oxford using same method to produce vaccine. you know or not? want to earn rm10 per dose? can or not? correct?

Posted by DonLee > 2020-12-21 22:21 | Report Abuse

Because malaysia is governed by bunch of sohai. someone said need 90 to 120 days to review
and approve pfizer vaccine

UlarSawa why singapore can be the first nation in Asia to receive Pfizer vaccine. Anyone know? multiple choice question.

1. connection
2. rich nation
3. shareholder of the vaccine company

anyone want to answer?

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 22:21 | Report Abuse

@JoyvestBapaMati joyvest @joyvest dont pluck figures from the air///the fact is your share price keep on going down and now your father just chan ham .
________________________________________

*You are offensive and abusive to insult family members of the member in this forum.

* you are a scumbag..

* you shall be dealt with accordingly

Posted by DonLee > 2020-12-21 22:28 | Report Abuse

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2020/12/21/health-dg-will-take-four-months-to-evaluate-pfizer-trial-data

Posted by DonLee > 2020-12-21 22:29 | Report Abuse

Health DG: Will take four months to evaluate Pfizer trial data

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 22:36 | Report Abuse

the pharmaceutical giant ,Pfizer will charge the government around USD $39 for a two-dose treatment based on Pfizer’s contract with the U.S.,

Do you think Pfizer sell below usd 39 to other countries? Usd39= rm 170++

Posted by lee9fold > 2020-12-21 22:38 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 22:42 | Report Abuse

Singapore is kat su ....

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 22:42 | Report Abuse

Kat si

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-21 23:05 | Report Abuse

Answer is all 3 lah. money, connection and shareholder.

Temasek is a shareholder of BioNTech lah. Temasek on paper gain dunno how much now even though BioNTech is loss making company so far lah. Now is their chance to make a lot of money lah. Pfizer also has plant in Spore too. Dunno can produce
vaccine or not only. Connection also good with major pharma companies. most importantly got strong Singapore dollar to buy lah. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-21 23:07 | Report Abuse

how to compare spore n msia approval on vaccine. Spore side evaluate online live data feed by the maker. Msia waiting hardcopy data from the maker then evaluate the vaccine. correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-21 23:10 | Report Abuse

a Solution need MoH approval on cansino vaccine then can start to build the plant. like this also take few months. when can supply the first batch of vaccine like this? 3rd Qtr 2021? correct?

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 23:11 | Report Abuse

Singapore is believed to have spent usd 250 million for purchase of Pfizer on the basis of 5 million population including foreign workers at USD 50 per 2 doses including logistics costs

For Malaysia where 30 % of the population is from the purchase of Pfizer. The total purchase cost is believed to be USD 450 million (rm 1.6 billion)on the basis of 9 million population (30%) at usd 50 per 2 doses.

If Malaysia would like to get 100% of population for Pfizer,it would cost Malaysia usd 1.5 b ( rm 6 billion)

Thats why Malaysia gets 30% only. even that,it costs Malaysia a bomb.

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 23:14 | Report Abuse

Singapore is small in population and is rich.no problem for them to buy and offer free to its population

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-21 23:14 | Report Abuse

Spore ordered 3 different vaccines altogether lah. Pfizer moderna n sinovac lah. they need different vacvine to cater for different age group need. not one vaccine fit all lah. Contingency plan. Correct?

Posted by lee9fold > 2020-12-21 23:16 | Report Abuse

UlarSawa a Solution need MoH approval on cansino vaccine then can start to build the plant. like this also take few months. when can supply the first batch of vaccine like this? 3rd Qtr 2021? correct?
21/12/2020 11:10 PM

nonsense
u try to gauge the supply and demand of cansino with yr own reasoning
sometimes u are unable to gauge the actual situation, right?
all just yr wild guess, right?
just like yr dream that fgv worth 1.3 because of the offer letter, in fact just a peanut earning, right?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-21 23:21 | Report Abuse

Sharing is caring. Dont mislead others with your so called evaluation. accurate or not? Solution not worth rm1.80. Correct?

Posted by tradesafely > 2020-12-21 23:24 | Report Abuse

my gosh... why go create such nicknames.
be matured please, disagree on opinions and views no need to involve personal attack or family.

Posted by lee9fold > 2020-12-21 23:26 | Report Abuse

Posted by UlarSawa > Dec 21, 2020 11:21 PM | Report Abuse

Sharing is caring. Dont mislead others with your so called evaluation. accurate or not? Solution not worth rm1.80. Correct?

nonsense
you are not sharing, but more to show that yrself is the "pro"
yr lambo not even worth 0.005, right?
yr fgv not worth to buy at all, right?
but u paint a nice picture saying fgv is like yr fd sure make money, you are the one mislead others, right?

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 23:30 | Report Abuse

Pfizer and moderna are made of substance more or less the same but sinovac is made of different substance which is believed to be of lesser side effect..

Good for Singapore to diversify

Posted by flyborn > 2020-12-21 23:31 | Report Abuse

Haaa ...
Talk too much
Write very long
But
Only buy lambo... fgv

Posted by khoonhwa > 2020-12-21 23:33 | Report Abuse

https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/556083

Posted by lee9fold > 2020-12-21 23:34 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2020-12-21 23:34 | Report Abuse

why find faults on other to cover your own shortage. you also dunno how to evaluate. chances getting slimmer you still stick to the old evaluation. can like this evaluate kah? Correct?

Posted by newkid > 2020-12-21 23:43 | Report Abuse

Base on announcement by spore to give free vaccine to all citizen and half million PR from Malaysia, that mean covid vaccine has to be control, monitor, and implement by country Moh.
I think Malaysia will also follow this procedure as Kheiry already hinted many times that any company can sign mou with what ever companies but final approval is from Moh. That mean can forget about companies who claimed to signed Mou with ABC companies. I am worry for newbie who are still inside hwgb, bintai n solution !!!!! I see big avalanche coming !!!!!!

Posted by lee9fold > 2020-12-21 23:50 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by joyvest > 2020-12-21 23:57 | Report Abuse

Mou is secondary.

What matters is who got the proven product?.

Who has been authorised to supply the proven product?.

The answer is clear....we are not in the wrong counter here.

The new kid 's concern has no cause of concern.