I plan to collect more until the next quarter result so this temporary set back in prices is ok for me like what mktwatch has pointed out. There are valid concerns raised by good hearted forum members but there are also parties keep bashing this counter without valid arguments which makes me wonder why. Normally people won't waste so much time here doing something not beneficial to them. The fact that they hand around so much show their deep interest in this counter. So ya, keep in coming but please be rational and don't get personal. Peace....
How can Tigershark same person as mitras? One write in English and one in Malay pantun. Tigeshark only like to mention calvin. Mitras is a bit kuku, unlike kukuman who is not.
Never Mind TigerShark, today my lawyer told me the house I am selling is in order. Others might fear you. Not Calvin Tan. I will sell more houses for the Bargain of The Century! PM Corp Boleh! Tan Sri Datuk Khoo Kay Peng Boleh!
IF YOU KNOW THERE IS NOTHING TO FEAR.
FROM DAY ONE WHEN I INVESTED IN PM CORP I BELIEVE IN THIS COMPANY. I HAVE PLUMBED ITS DEPTHS, FEEL ITS WIDTH & WANT TO SCALE ITS HEIGHTS!!
humbled , I agree with you, as the Malay adage says " di mana ada gula di situ ada semut".... but i not understand why they still give unreasonable comments. we are ready to receive any comments and advice, and be prepared for all risks because that's our choice. do not laugh to other people if what u say is right ...correct me if i'm wrong.
oh oh oh Kukuman kukuman u kat mana boleh ke harga PMC turun menjunam besok oh oh oh Kukuman Tolong beri nasihat kukuman Terima kasih atas nasihat tu Kukuman
Abdulhalim, totally agreed. Positive and negative comments are all welcome as long as they are reasonable and valid. Some people here get angry or are sarcastic when others don't listen to them cause these people forget we don't really know each other here in person. We will always have reservations in what we read here. We might believe after further evaluation and decide at our risk to go ahead and buy it. Ridiculing someone when someone loses money is just so wrong. Nobody can be right all the time in share market. Do you remember the last time you were wrong? I sincerely all here will make money not only from this counters but all others as well. Peace....
humbled,,100% support your statement, nothing is perfect because we are human, always make the wrong decision ... nobody perfect here. learning is endless as long as we breathe in this world. always respect the views and genuine comments of the friends here.
Harga penamat PMC merosot ke 23.5 cents petang ni Ramai pelabur jangka masa panjang sekarang mempunyai hati yg berdebar debar mungkin ada yang berani tu, saling menjual secara rahsia awal besok pagi Kalau begitu , yang berani pun jadi lemah, harga PMC pun ikut sama
Nampak nya PMC ada maasalah Perjalan ke bukit PMC yang KAYA tu kian hari kian payah, Penglihatan agak nya kekaburan
Apa tah masalah tu CFO dah keluar, ada yang kata dia di-pecat, kenapa dia di-pecat? Ada kah dia di-pecat berkaitan degan cadangan CASH PAYOUT? Beberapa pengurus berpengalaman pun ikut keluar, Ada kah mereka yg ikut keluar bersimpati dgn CFO yg di-pecat tu? Kenapa mereka yang berpengalaman tu ikut keluar Siapa ada pengalaman setakat ni di PMC
Ramai pelabur pelabur PMC yg melabur BESAR sekarang dalam keadaan kebingungan Dari Ayam Tua , Tuan Syeik, i tak kisah dan lain lain Awal dulu ada dengar "SYABAS, PMC AKAN BERI CASH PAYOUT" Sekarang setekat ni kian hari kian terus MEMBISU Dua hari lalu, mktwtch dah menunjuk perasaan di i3 forum Syabas kepada maktwtch yang menunjuk perasaan itu Nak CASH PAYOUT, CAPITAL REDUCTION,CAPITAL CONSOL Tetapi ada kah Tan Sri KKP bersimpati dengan Tunjuk Perasaan Mktwtch itu?
Ada kah PMC syarikat yang "ber-TRANSPARENT" Kenapa biarkan dengan sangaja pelabur pelabur dalam keadaan kebingungan Sila Tanya lah kukuman, dia tahu latar belakang Tan Sri KKP dari zaman dahulu
Ini petanda tidak baik.. tidak baik untuk pelabur pelabur PMC Apa tah tujuan sabenar nya terhahap pelabur pelabur minoriti dari Tan Sri Khoo Kay Peng Atas petanda yg tak selesa itu, ada kemungkin besar... pelabur pelabur masa panjang akan bermimpi ngeri malam ni pelabur pelabur masa panjang akan bercerik berik menjunam jatuh harga saham PMC besok
Tanya lah Kukuman tentang sama ada CFO di pecat atau dia meletak jawatan Agak nya kukuman tahu hal yg sabenar nya Tanya lah Calvin yg berkenalan rapat dgn CEO PMC tu.. Saya cuma cahaya yang melawat forum ni, bukan PMC team
For Four Years I have been promoting TUDOR GOLD, TANGO & CRISPY CHOCOLATES IN MALAYSIA & SINGAPORE Side by Side With Cadbury people, DKSH people, Nestle people, Power Root People, Super Coffee Mix people, Hup Seng people & all others promoting different foodstuff in Giant, Jaya Jusco(Now AEON), Mydin, Cold Storage, Mustaffar Center, Sheng Siong, NTUC FairPrice, Cosway, Tesco, Shop & Save & Many many places.
ALL ARE POLITE AND FRIENDLY. Some Are Friends I Made Along The Way.
I started promoting PM Corp shares here on September 20th, 2013 here. In less than 3 months this thread has over 8,000 comments. I have made many friends who called. I am very thankful for all who share the vision. Of course I am surprised by those who hide behind names and pass negative comments.
Produce your facts and figures by all means. Gold is not afraid of fire. Gold can withstand any fire test.
PM Corp Shall Rise Or Fall On Its Own Intrinsic And Fundamental Value.
Saya ia lah cahaya yang melawat forum ni. Yang amat memikat perhatian saya ia lah komen komen dari Kukuman saperti terkandung di-bawah. Sila lah membaca dengan penuh teliti sambil fikir degan mendalam apa yang di perkatakan oleh Kukuman..apa kah mesej yang benar? Ada kah CFO Encik Ho "meletak jawatan" atas isu "professional integrity" yang dia tak nak berkompromi? Apa kah isu isu PMC yang bertentangan dengan "professional integrity " yg di sanjung tinggi oleh bekas CFO Encik Ho? Patut ke kamu sebagai pelabur pelabur PMC ambil tahu atas hal yang sabenar nya tentang isu professional integrity yg di sanjung tinggi oleh bekas CFO Encik Ho?
Posted by Kukuman > Dec 4, 2013 07:35 PM | Report Abuse ofcourse he will! he ia a bitter man. after being shown the door! do u know why they are so penchant for cash pay out?
Posted by Kukuman > Dec 4, 2013 08:43 PM | Report Abuse i like your story. unfortunately it is not the case. he still have a family to feed and young kids to raise.
Posted by Kukuman > Dec 4, 2013 07:45 PM | Report Abuse it is not an opinion, pal. resignation and sack are two very important choice of words especially during public relation exercise
Posted by Kukuman > Dec 5, 2013 12:05 AM | Report Abuse the issue is not about who to cover who. the issue is why "resigned" ? is it because of integrity issue that ho chai not prepared to compromise?
Posted by Kukuman > Dec 5, 2013 01:28 PM | Report Abuse Good. Can share how many years u intend to stay invested with the company? By the way, "as long as PMC is managed professional" is a very serious words. Can they? Can they explain why cfo "resigned" at the last minute? Cfo is someone deal with financial, another word is money, true? Cfo is professional position and the person has a license governed under a professional body. Once u lost your professional license due to integrity issue, there goes his or her livelihood. On the other hand, directorship is not a professional position.
Posted by Kukuman > Dec 5, 2013 01:58 PM | Report Abuse Did you ask him why "resigned"? Which company he goes? Share with all of us la. I know you know
Posted by Kukuman > Dec 5, 2013 02:14 PM | Report Abuse Aiya calvin san, sms him or call him la. sure he will share with you. After all, you still need to fix date, time and venue for the chit chat session in S'pore.
Mitras. Why u are so busy with pmcorp. What is your motive There are so many counters that u can give your brilliant comment but your interest is pmcorp.u always give stupid sound huuu hiuu huuuu.really childish. If you are sincere that give your professional comment. Be educated and grow up. Dont act like a standard one student.
MITRAS. It is ok to make joke. Based on your comment. I believe you are muslim. Be a good muslim and give a good example to us. Give what we call oh yes ...salam. instead of ha ha ha hu hu day and night. If you want to entertain us be like our Ayam Tua really good commenter and enlightening our forum. Mitras you claim to give cahaya. But in reality make us very sick. Pls give good comment. Negative or positive.
zu1967. Kenapa anda terlalu risau atas perkataan Kukuman itu? Ada kah anda pelabur yang terbesar sambil tak nak ambil tahu isu isu "hangat" yang berkaitan dengan PMC ? Jangan lah berlakun sebagai "BURUNG UNTA" Sila lah baca dengan penuh teliti sambil berfikir degan mendalam apa yang di perkatakan oleh Kukuman..apa kah mesej yang benar? Jangan lah cuma lihat "solek atau dlm bahasa inggeris cosmetic" sila lah faham apa lah yg di perkatakan oleh kukuman dengan fikiran yg kritikal dan pemahaman yg mendalam. Ciri ciri yang amat penting sebagai Pelabur Saham ia lah memperolehi "Critical Mindset"
Sometimes these people THINK too much to their own detriment which might affect others that is not steady in mindset. Their thoughts made them suffer as they over ASSUME. Otherwise it might made an "ASS OUT of you and ME". At times it better to keep sideline if there is nothing positive to say.
After all any form of investments is subject to their respective risks and if you can't take these kind of risks, it is better to be out of the market.
Let it be and let it takes it's course as each decision made has it's cause and effect. Anyway, good luck to all.
Below is from Bullbear Buffet Stock Investing Notes :
The LONGER a stock remains seriously UNDERVALUED and the LONGER they DONT' RETURN TO NORMAL VALUE, the BETTER it is for the investor A Margin of Safety BOOSTS Returns Rather than Just Providing Protection
The longer the stock remains undervalued, the better it is for shareholders, because their reinvested dividends, or their new purchases, or management’s share buybacks, continue to accumulate undervalued shares. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
It actually becomes a demonstrably negative scenario for a long term investor when their stocks go up above fair value. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
That’s how Buffett made 30-50% returns in his early days.
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Eventually, those stocks will return to normal values, and the longer they don’t, the better it is for the investor. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
Comments: A most important point. As a value investor, you should be happy for the stock market to be down. It is only then, you can find the bargains you wish. As you will be a net investor in stocks for the future and for the long term, you should welcome a down market, so that you can buy stocks at bargain prices. Yet, in many forums, everyone is cheering for the prices of stocks to rise.
Note : Provided if the stocks is of potential and with fundamentals.
Nampak nya isu isu yang di kemukakan oleh Kukuman telah sengaja di elakkan oleh 8stars dan calvintaneng. Apa kah motif mereka nak elakkan isu isu hangat ni ? Di mana ada jawapan konkrit terhadap isu isu hangat yang di kemukakan oleh Kukuman? Tolong fikirkan baik baik dengan mendalam kepada soalan ni..
"Ada kah Kukuman "ASSUME" atau dia "DAH TAHU" apa dah TERJADI kepada CFO Ho Chai" "Ada kah kukuman dan Ho Chai berkenalan lebih masa berbanding dengan kamu semua?" "Ada kah Kukuman pelabur saham BARU atau TIDAK?"
Apa kah kamu semua nak buat sekarang sebagai Pelabur saham PMC? Kamu semua nak terus MEMBISU atau mengemukakan isu isu yang boleh membahaya NILAI sham PMC? Kepada siapa kah kamu nak mengemukan isu isu ni? Ingat dengan teliti..apa kah perbezaan antara "MAJORITI dan MINORITI SAHARHOLDER PMC ni"
Tanya lah sendiri, Ada kah PMC berlagak "TRANSPARENT" setakat ni. Ada kah PMC betul betul berlagak secara TRANSPARENT, kenapa mktwatch dah TUNJUK PERASAAN ia itu NAK CASH PAYOUT, NAK CAPITAL REDUCTION, NAK SHARE CONCOLIDATION" dua hari yang lalu.
Apakah isu isu yang boleh membahayakan nilai saham PMC ni? Tanya lah mktwatch yang telah menunjuk Perasaan di forum ni lah
Nampak nya kedua kedua ni, ia itu 8star dan caltaneng, cuma nak elakkan isu isu hangat yang kemukakan oleh Kukuman. Jangan lah sebagai Pelabur sahma PMC di gunakan atau diperdayakanolen sesiapa pun
Saya nak mengemukakan apa yang di tuliskan olen 8star.
It actually becomes a demonstrably negative scenario for a long term investor when their stocks go up above fair value. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
Apa kah makna ini? Ada kah ini bermakna PMC dah go up above fair value?
As a value investor, you should be happy for the stock market to be down. It is only then, you can find the bargains you wish. As you will be a net investor in stocks for the future and for the long term, you should welcome a down market, so that you can buy stocks at bargain prices. Yet, in many forums, everyone is cheering for the prices of stocks to rise.
Apa kah makna ini? PMC tak bargain NILAI sekarang? Ada kah ini bertentangan dengan rekomendasi Calvin?
Para perhatian AYAM TUA dan pelabur pelabur saham PMC, Apa kah FAIR VALUE PMC? Siapa yang datang mempromosi kan nilai PMC dan mengakibatkan harga PMC melangit buat sementara dahulu? Ada lah mustahak kamu meperolehi "FIKIRAN YG KRITIKAL" atau kamu lebih senang hati sengaja di perdayakan olen orang lain?
FIKIRLAH DENGAN MENDALAM. JANGAN LAH TERGOPOH MENJUAL SAHAM PMC HARI NI. FIKIR LAH DENGAN TELITI DAN MENDALAN APA TINDAKAN KAMU NAK AMBIL DALAM MASA AKAN DATANG.
Panic panic jual jual. Mitras if u think we want to sell. Forget about it. Overall stock market is not good. Most of share price are going down. It is normal everyear pun macam tu. U are really shark shit. Try to create fear among investors. Shark only collect shares during poor market sentiment and dispose when everybody back to trade. Dont worry some investors will follow your advice. Pls take my advice if you want to make money by doing this. It is not good. Haram. I think you should believe "day of judgement".
FIKIRLAH DENGAN MENDALAM. JANGAN LAH TERGOPOH MENJUAL SAHAM PMC HARI NI. FIKIR LAH DENGAN TELITI DAN MENDALAM APA TINDAKAN KAMU NAK AMBIL DALAM MASA AKAN DATANG.
Ada kah permahaman u terhadap apa yang di nyatakan oleh saya di atas? U tak faham ke? Dah nasihat "Jangan lah tergopoh menjual saham PMC hari ni. Fikirlah dengan teliti dan mendalam tindakan kamu nak ambil dalam masa akan datang"
Itu ja. Susah nak faham ke atau u sengaja tak nak faham? nak buat situasi kelam kabut yg akibatkan "panic jual jual yg u idamkan? U dah beli dengan high cost ke? U nak beli dengan harga murah ke?
Dengar baik baik..Situasi jual murah tak kan berlaku. Jual murah dah berakhir . Sekarang pelabur saham PMC cuma menunggu tindakan yang akan di ambil oleh pengurusan tinggi PMC. Sila tunggu lah tindakan tindakan yg akan di ambil oleh pengurusan tinggi PMC kelak. Bersabar lah dulu.
Cavin, why respond to these ppl, better focus on promoting tudor chocolate to our friends and share some exciting news rgd PMC. All tudorians share the same dream, remember 30sen, 50sen.....haha, goodday to you
Gd morning Calvin & everyone. Should we entertain this dude in the 1st place. It reminds me of a guy few years back while having my dinner in KL. He was standing at the restaurant corner waving his righthand up and down shouting in hokkien " si ho si ho " means NO 4 NO 4.( S.O.P first past the post ). My 1st impression this guy must be a horse punter who lost all his savings betting horses. 1 is enough and here we got another 1..HuhaHuHa...ADVISE : Better finetune your alighment. Godbless
I setuju dengan ksng0307 yang megesyorkan Calvin supaya "share some exciting news rgd PMC" Calvin Sila terangkan apa "exciting news rgd PMC" yang u dah memperolehi setaka ni, Ada exciting news atau tidak? Cakap benar lah Berapa lama pelabur pelabur saham saperti kssng0307 nak tunggu ketibaan "exciting news rgd PMC"? Agak nya ksng0307 ni kian hari kian risau
RE: INTRA DAY FBMKLCI INDEX: The last 4 days' price action has created a Head n Shoulder chart pattern in the 30 min chart this morning. The depth of the Neck Line is 7 points down from the peak. Base at Neck Line is 1840. So, price may touch 1832 (ie., 1840 - 7) today.
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Posted by zu1967 > 2013-12-11 20:05 | Report Abuse
Abang halim . Can u recommend any bomoh to give treatment. Mitras is getting worse. Never meet any human being like him before. Pity him.