Posted by Ong Wee Ming > 2013-07-23 14:47 | Report Abuse

why tp 2.6?

Posted by SANG-JERO > 2013-07-23 15:13 | Report Abuse

Sorry Ong Wee Ming...Can't disclose...

Posted by mickaelp > 2013-07-23 15:16 | Report Abuse

2.6 ?! Incredible

Posted by papaya > 2013-07-23 15:23 | Report Abuse

plse believe.....but not in short term....hehe

Posted by SANG-JERO > 2013-07-23 15:24 | Report Abuse

It could be soon or it could be later....mmmmm...cannot say much lah..

Posted by papaya > 2013-07-23 15:33 | Report Abuse

this is the time to shake out all the punters and weak holders.....

Posted by slts > 2013-07-23 15:33 | Report Abuse

wow 2.60 hope so
i'll sell my wife, kids, house, cars
& empty my bank account to invest
in pantech
if not enough i'll rob the banks too
just joking !!

Posted by papaya > 2013-07-23 15:38 | Report Abuse

slts.....hahaha

Posted by SANG-JERO > 2013-07-23 15:38 | Report Abuse

Enjoy the flight but we will encounter with Air Pocket along the way to our destination...cheers...

Posted by lloydlim > 2013-07-23 17:31 | Report Abuse

Still wanna buy more.......

Posted by van_de_skzyox > 2013-07-23 17:35 | Report Abuse

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/anpth/925707.jsp

what does this means ????

Posted by jjoker > 2013-07-23 17:52 | Report Abuse

EMPLOYEE get this at MYR 0.670, to be listed tomorrow

Posted by nicholes > 2013-07-23 17:57 | Report Abuse

actually what vote?

Posted by van_de_skzyox > 2013-07-23 18:21 | Report Abuse

employee get 0.67 but market is 1.09 ???
how to count ?

Posted by Jyen > 2013-07-23 18:51 | Report Abuse

Wow, I wonder each employee are allowed to buy how many shares under this scheme.

Posted by usry > 2013-07-23 18:52 | Report Abuse

Mother share: 1.09 but Esos listing at 0.67
so still have a room for mother share to grow coz usually mother price should higher usually double than ESOS.

Posted by Steve Jub > 2013-07-23 18:57 | Report Abuse

wa so big gap ah? 0.67 vs 1.09. i jobstreet see got vacancy or not there hehe

Posted by Jyen > 2013-07-23 19:03 | Report Abuse

So TP is 1.34:)

Posted by usry > 2013-07-23 19:12 | Report Abuse

In simple calculation- in the case of mother share is double than esos this means Pantech still have 15 cents to go..(0 esos price:0.67 : mother price 1.20). By the way share price is influence by other factor such as economy and political and external factor likr Djia and other markets performance.

Posted by Steve Jub > 2013-07-23 19:34 | Report Abuse

hey today koperasi permodalan felda malaysia berhad aquired 875k shares

Posted by usry > 2013-07-23 20:00 | Report Abuse

They bought last week not today.
That y price was shoot up last week.

Posted by Valueinvest > 2013-07-23 23:06 | Report Abuse

Usry, how do u know koperasi felda bought? Where do u get the info?

Posted by ykinvestor > 2013-07-23 23:10 | Report Abuse

here is the info http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/anpth/925783.jsp

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-07-23 23:12 | Report Abuse

The more institution is buying this stock, the better is the stock price. Hopefully, EPF is also buying it. Someone please check on it.

Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by usry > 2013-07-24 07:59 | Report Abuse

The main catalyst to drive this share price now days is financial result. if investor expect this company will release a good new- than Pantech will move upward today. Another factor is- last nite DJIA - still in a stable mode .. So no negative impact to Klse today (hopefully).
But from the chart- our KLSE is at new high - but with no a good sign.. look like any time it will crash because from my view our KLSE move up in this few days only due to advance in 'blue chip' not by 2nd and 3rd liner(broad base).

Posted by Steve Jub > 2013-07-24 08:20 | Report Abuse

ursy, i saw announcement felda bot yesterday wo

Posted by usry > 2013-07-24 08:23 | Report Abuse

Date of announcement is yesterday but date of Felda bought the share is on 16 & 18 July 2013.. (last week) pls read and understand it carefully. your info will mislead others..

Posted by Steve Jub > 2013-07-24 08:24 | Report Abuse

oh i see. ok thanks for clarifying.

Posted by usry > 2013-07-24 08:25 | Report Abuse

i also in learning stage..

Posted by buybuybuy > 2013-07-24 08:27 | Report Abuse

KLSE index is above 1800 and expect the price correction ahead due to the overbought situation. Take profit now before it's too late.

Posted by winwin > 2013-07-24 08:54 | Report Abuse

foreign fund inflow malaysia again..KLCI should stand above 1800 for awhile at least before raya.at current price of 1.09-1.15,pantech still most undervalued stock.hold it and collect some if drop bit.

Posted by Steve Jub > 2013-07-24 09:29 | Report Abuse

some say buy some say sell hehe

Posted by Steve Jub > 2013-07-24 09:33 | Report Abuse

so now resistance is 1.16

Posted by timl > 2013-07-24 09:38 | Report Abuse

for speculator, it doesnt seem that good, for investor, good time to accumulate :)

Posted by Steve Jub > 2013-07-24 09:43 | Report Abuse

ya true...

Posted by SANG-JERO > 2013-07-24 09:47 | Report Abuse

KPF pays 15-20% dividend to its members annually...They have to ensure that they achieve minimum yield of a certain percentage to pay their members attractive dividend....I mentioned quite a few times that are block buyers and an institution eying on pantech stocks.....There could be more block buyers coming in....Therefore I am of the opinion that 2.60 is not impossible...Pantech is a very good stock for medium term....Judge yourself....cheers...

Posted by DrPitchard > 2013-07-24 09:53 | Report Abuse

@usry and @Jyen

No offence, but I don't think you know your stuff regarding ESOS and you all got the whole concept wrong.
The exercise price of the ESOS (in this context, 0.670) is usually based on the price of the share or the recent average price of the share at that point in time.

For the one that is being announced (0.670), it was most probably issued around 1 year ago. At that time, the price is 0.60 to 0.70.

For employees to gain the maximum out of it, they obviously have to hope the price of the share goes up as much as possible after 1 year. Indirectly, it encourages employees to work hard and contribute their best to the company. Also, it works as an incentive to retain staff.

For this year, the employees at PANTECH will be given new ESOS allocations, maybe 1.10? They will be able to exercise this 1 year from now.

So, if the price of the share is 2.00 by July next year, they will stand to gain quite a lot again. Those that haven't exercise their previous ESOS (the 0.670 option), will gain even more. That being said, the share could also retract (maybe 0.80 by July next year) and the ESOS is deemed as valueless.

ESOS allocation is granted based on the position and also the performance (company wide and individual) for the previous year.

Thus, the statement that ESOS is usually double the share price or that it can be bought by employees is not true at all.

Posted by Steve Jub > 2013-07-24 10:19 | Report Abuse

i never buy ESOS before. so when the employee bot ESOS, they can only sell after one year?

Posted by ykinvestor > 2013-07-24 10:31 | Report Abuse

Normally ESOS works in such a way that the employee can only sell their ESOS after one year and their ESOS can last for about 5 to 10 years. For example if I am given the ESOS for pantech at 1.09 today at Jul 24 2013 it means that I will entitle the ESOS and exercise it after Jul 24 2014 and I have the right to exercise it until 2023. What I can do after Jul 24 2014 is that I can sell the ESOS without buying the ESOS if the mother pantech share is greater than 1.09 lets say it is 2.00 by then, my profit is (2.00 - 1.09) X the number of the shares that I have entitled after a year. If I want to convert the ESOS to the mother share then I only pay 1.09 after Jul 24 2014 even though the mother share is 2.00 then. Hope this is clearer now about ESOS.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-07-24 10:36 | Report Abuse

239.5 lots issued under ESOS is nothing to the market. The volume is very small. No effect.

Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by newbiestock > 2013-07-24 10:37 | Report Abuse

another crook ooi teik bee

Posted by SANG-JERO > 2013-07-24 10:41 | Report Abuse

Agreed with Ooi Teik Bee...239.5 lots is peanut....

Posted by Steve Jub > 2013-07-24 10:48 | Report Abuse

i see thanks for the info...seems like warrant ya

Posted by DrPitchard > 2013-07-24 10:49 | Report Abuse

@ Steve Jub
Well, technically, you can't buy it and it's granted. If one is a new staff and haven't perform well, chances are he/she is not entitled to any. And for a start, that company must have an ESOS incentive schemed in place. Not all public listed companies have ESOS schemes as a form of motivation or retention plan.

@ ykinvestor
Good explanation. You've covered most of it. Worth to highlight that ESOS can be of no value if the current price is below the exercise price. In such a case, nobody will exercise their ESOS then as they are better of buying it directly on the market floor.

Also, senior top management are given compensation packages which are heavily skewed towards ESOS schemes and bonus grants. Thus, they are really fired up and motivated to bring the company to greater heights. Compared to their fixed salaries, ESOS and bonus grants make up a big chunk of it.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-07-24 10:50 | Report Abuse

Posted by optimusrich > Jun 28, 2013 12:29 PM | Report Abuse

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Posted by wm83 > 2013-07-24 11:24 | Report Abuse

wanna ask a newbie question, i bought pantech-LA, does it work like warrant? mother share increase, would LA increase? what's the difference?

Posted by hobson64 > 2013-07-24 14:51 | Report Abuse

someone keep collecting at this level before the release of Q results

Posted by kcfan > 2013-07-24 15:00 | Report Abuse

TB Ooi,are you still collecting on current price?Let's us your further direction on Pantech.Thanks.

Posted by SANG-JERO > 2013-07-24 15:07 | Report Abuse

I feel a little bit itchy to add my stake lah...watching closely...

Posted by Steve Jub > 2013-07-24 15:10 | Report Abuse

still flat le