Posted by Joyce > 2014-01-30 15:06 | Report Abuse

Exercise ESOS will pump $$$ into the company, good for company.

But selling those ESOS.... ...................

If we can hold them kuat-kuat like lmf_hau holding ALAM kuat-kuat from 88 sen to 1.50 sen, then OK-la

Posted by 我♡江欣怡 > 2014-01-30 21:04 | Report Abuse

^&^

Posted by Joyce > 2014-01-31 20:40 | Report Abuse

EXERCISE MORE ESOS AND THE COMPANY WILL DEGEAR MORE GOOD FOR COMPANY

Posted by Joyce > 2014-01-31 20:43 | Report Abuse

Come on. how many esos options left? Exercise all and the company will have more $$$ to degear,
or---- goring up TROP, let the -WA holders to exercise ....

hey forgot leh, the TROP-WA always got people to collect at 48~50 sen.

Seems that TROP-WA is in STRONG HANDS

In FORSEENABLE FUTURE, TROP WILL BE GORENG STRAIGHT TO 1.68, if not 2.22
and SATURN WILL BE VERY HAPPY.

恭喜发财，红包拿来！！！！

Posted by Joyce > 2014-01-31 20:45 | Report Abuse

TROP-CC and TROP-CD, the next SUPERMX-CM, SUPERMX-CN in making, thanks to Saturn

Posted by Joyce > 2014-02-01 11:28 | Report Abuse

Eyes on next :TROP-CE

Posted by Grambo > 2014-02-02 16:05 | Report Abuse

Yeah."..

Posted by Duitbesar > 2014-02-05 01:03 | Report Abuse

Tak guna punya CEO, sibuk sangat dengan jenama FCUK. Danny Tan patut pecat saja CEO tak guna.

Posted by Grambo > 2014-02-05 22:29 | Report Abuse

Sudah ter lambat. Nama baru Tropicana sudah Jadi FCUK. Sekarang kena rebrand Jadi Nama tropicjaya. Tukar CEO je.

Posted by optimusprime > 2014-02-06 03:22 | Report Abuse

i am amused by the phd thesis done by Saturn on property theory,


Posted by Saturn > Jan 26, 2014 10:58 PM | Report Abuse

Coming back to property angle........if property developers are paying a price for a glut due to oversupply and govt control then the banks will also pay a price for the glut.....
If the bank pays a price for the glut, less new NPL (which will be good) however, the holes from old NPL will also not be covered as no new profit from the property sector......and if such is the case, they have to look outside again on investment ........question is, is Indonesia investment safe for the the two top malaysian banks? Is the investment safe in Thailand which has gone one step further into turmoil?? And both compounded by global highs and lows of market and tapering fears.....

We have taken one step back looking at possibility and if we take one step forward on the OPR alredi announce, and increase of blr and new replacement for BLR,......can the govt and banks really afford for a property crash??

Take another fact on property whereby HDB flat price in Singapore has drop for the first time since 2005......Singapore like penang island ( not inclusive of mainland) applied very stringent control on the property resulting in the drop which in my opinion is positive.......however like Singapore, penang island and malaysia as a whole do not have this real stringent control yet.....the property in Penang island will certainly overflow to Seberang Prai and Batu Kawan area......question u shud ask urself is, does Singapore have a overflow mechanism??

Posted by optimusprime > 2014-02-06 03:34 | Report Abuse

Grandma thambi....r u still here?

Posted by Grandma > Jul 20, 2013 06:05 PM | Report Abuse

Grandma excited with this stock. Someone is timing the stock and grandma thinks it is Yau. He has the background and has done this exact thing at Sunway. So Grandma see reason from early sell and now buy. For those with loaded bags can also have a look at the property they are currently pushing very hard. (Pool villa and golf villa) The ones on condos are taken up pretty well.


Posted by Grandma > Jul 22, 2013 09:43 PM | Report Abuse

Grandma manage to get some at 1.89. Judging from the projects rolled out, grandma see 75% to 80% on schedule.

Posted by Grandma > Jul 24, 2013 11:00 PM | Report Abuse

Pls don't change where we are headed........private placement is to ensure the gearing target (to reduce) Is not touch while new partners are added to add value. This value is to support the share price while buy back and other initiatives are still on going.
Grandma support this idea what they are doing is , using a raise money to do business much like a extending a stake to a partner instead of taking a loan.
For those who don't understand, take another real example of Astro listing which did not have any major institution supporting its bookbuilding exercise, look at the share performance in the initial stage for sometime.
So in a way, this is very much like getting interest of investors to support your price while u are also implementing initiatives.


Posted by Grandma > Jul 24, 2013 11:37 PM | Report Abuse

No difference young man. If I give you a dollar, you have a few options
1. Claim as revenue and your debts are unchanged
2. 50/50 50% plough in for development and balance to reduce gearing
3. Put all into reducing debt but have no money for moving forward
4. Take a loan for development while money is kep to show high top line and increase ou debt
5. Continue to improve topline, reduce gearing , no loans, create value synergy through private placement to share risk. Risk here is just about any companies would have. At a pace set like this one, the idea is very good.

Choosing no 5 makes all sense


Posted by Grandma > Aug 12, 2013 01:46 PM | Report Abuse

Grandma thinks the price should have settled since Jul 24 and earlier announcement at 1.77. Technically Grandma believe they should announce the Private Placement before results. The last they did took approx 7 days after May 28 calculation of PP price. While the justification of PP was to acquire land, Grandma think it will be use for the lowering of gearing numbers for the coming financial report.
As they would already hve close the books for last quarter report if Grandmas story is right, the first PP will be use to lower Gearing and the second PP for the actual activity.


Tan KW's Portfolio: Stock Pick Challenge 2013 2H - OTB

Aug 30, 2013 03:22 PM | Report Abuse

I will even take one that is not on my list but u have said I like and I seem to like it now more...Tropicana......kakakakan name yours. I will give the next 2 real pick from me on Monday. Remember rules
1. First to 30% wins.
2. End date determine by Tan KW as KC suggested
3 Umpire Tan KW
4. First to 30% shall prevail over the end date
5. The ref price shall start base on closing price
6. Total 3 counters shall be competed
7. Hafiz to name further rules if 1 to 6 agreed


haiz...grandma thambi i read n laugh till cannot sleep...how?

Posted by optimusprime > 2014-02-06 03:44 | Report Abuse

grandma thambi, u still holding those u bot at 1.84? so pityful...

do u stil got energy or not?


Posted by Grandma > Jun 30, 2013 06:14 PM | Report Abuse

Young man, grandmas advice is to look at the energy of the company. Since you profit growth and etc, grandma also like to remind on gearing.
Grandma looking at this because the energy I. Tropicana has been renewed with Dato Yau joining the team as MD. The old company has become just a name in the business and they did a great job with changing the name. But changing name has only renewed as much as the name change does. The action and direction came with selling of land and reduce the gearing and buying bigger development land at 25psf in Canal. You can add the GDV to 70 billion now with Canal. So now with all the noted action taken, only have to make sure each development is achieve. Also the gearing reduce from 0.8 to 0.7 and should hit 0.65 soon. This are real and all eyes are on Dato Yau who is the expert fr Sunway in reducing gearing and improving revenue.

Posted by optimusprime > 2014-02-06 03:52 | Report Abuse

aiks, how to stop laughing har thambi


Posted by Grandma > Jul 1, 2013 11:35 AM | Report Abuse

Grandma managed to buy in at 1.82 / 83.


Posted by Grandma > Jul 1, 2013 02:55 PM | Report Abuse

Stoke difference yielding vs debt is an art. This is so because the money must be plough back quickly to ensure they are still earning. In this case Grandma can see Dato Yau got the experience in the switch and announcement. Very good! Now to see this confidence by the market.


Posted by Grandma > Jul 9, 2013 10:12 PM | Report Abuse

Grandma thinks RM2 very soon. Grandma like the positive energy in this counter and prefer this to Kimlun for mid term investment





rm2 very soon kah? wakakakakaka. grandma we love u. u r so cute.

Posted by optimusprime > 2014-02-06 03:56 | Report Abuse

Posted by Grandma > Jul 10, 2013 10:23 PM | Report Abuse

Grandma is very happy forum is alive. As Grandma checked with Tropicana, their property push has been tremendous. That's why Grandma bought in. If they continue to push at this momentum, it will sure be a player to reckon. They are signing off a lot of condos. Tis days security is very crucial and gate apartments are a choice. So Grandma thinks condos and gated concept is important for selling. More to that, Tropicana will be able to lead in new township and they have proven I. The case of Tropicana Golf and Country.


Posted by Grandma > Jul 20, 2013 06:05 PM | Report Abuse

Grandma excited with this stock. Someone is timing the stock and grandma thinks it is Yau. He has the background and has done this exact thing at Sunway. So Grandma see reason from early sell and now buy. For those with loaded bags can also have a look at the property they are currently pushing very hard. (Pool villa and golf villa) The ones on condos are taken up pretty well.

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Posted by FattyDragon > Jul 20, 2013 06:11 PM | Report Abuse

Welcome back grandma.....I am waiting for 1.88. It touch 1.89 briefly on friday

Posted by AyamTua > 2014-02-06 03:56 | Report Abuse

to regain back "lost hope" can try put renewed hope in - ntpm and hexza counters - :-) kikiki ...

Posted by Duitbesar > 2014-02-06 03:59 | Report Abuse

Saham ni dah busuk. Yau patut dipecat! Danny Tan kena tau.

Posted by optimusprime > 2014-02-06 04:01 | Report Abuse

Posted by Grandma > Aug 16, 2013 04:25 PM | Report Abuse

Grandma monitor the movement under Yau and notice they don't follow the day of the week. This means that Friday can also be a good day though most of activity happen on Wednesday. >>>>Grandma is happy to switch fr LBS to Tropicana as the exertion on the share is way too high at this point.



Posted by Grandma > Aug 18, 2013 01:29 PM | Report Abuse

>>>>Grandma will be stepping up the investment next week>>>>. The only thing still requiring more precision is the ROI which Grandma thinks is way off if not factored using the latest results as the monies obtain from sale, private placement, and gearing reduction needs to be presented to reflect the initiative correctly. ROE is standing at 12.9% and with dividen out of the way, the rest is pretty clear cut.

Posted by AyamTua > 2014-02-06 04:09 | Report Abuse

dengar cakap tuan guru duitbesar :-) save some remaining sunken ship amd find better opportunities ! ikut cakap pakar , contoh: duitbesar duit anda nescaya makin besar ... kikikiki

Posted by Grambo > 2014-02-06 20:52 | Report Abuse

Bye bye Optimus.....

Posted by KIRA > 2014-02-06 21:33 | Report Abuse

I HATE AYAM TUA. UNRELIABLE.

Posted by トトロ > 2014-02-07 19:30 | Report Abuse

ayam tua sell down to 1.19 tat day

Posted by KIRA > 2014-02-08 12:17 | Report Abuse

HE WILL SELL DOWN 1.18 >?

Posted by KIRA > 2014-02-08 12:18 | Report Abuse

NOBODY SELL DOWM TROP-WA TO 30 SEN LEH?

Posted by KIRA > 2014-02-08 20:33 | Report Abuse

RHB is say Target RM 2???

Posted by Grambo > 2014-02-09 21:46 | Report Abuse

CEO must step down! Spoilt the rebranded name...

Posted by Optimus1 > 2014-02-10 01:08 |

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Posted by Optimus1 > 2014-02-10 01:14 | Report Abuse

thambi u make me laugh from last week til now stomach pain la. i send my medical bill to u. wakakaka.

Posted by Optimus1 > 2014-02-10 01:15 |

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Posted by Optimus1 > 2014-02-10 01:19 |

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Posted by Optimus1 > 2014-02-10 01:23 | Report Abuse

kenot teach u so much, teach u little little enough. wakakaka.
dont reply me ok. got pretty woman waiting me.... u know wat la. wakakaka.

Posted by MAMEE MONSTER > 2014-02-10 15:10 | Report Abuse

Saturn, your account got hacked. please make a new account. I have read your old posts,
不像你哦！！！！

Posted by nenek > 2014-02-11 16:35 | Report Abuse

That day FRONTKN announce good news, but push down price back to 8 sen, many got panic and sold 8 sen. Now 11 sen eh.... 40% increased!!!!

Will this happen to TROP?

Posted by cheeseburger > 2014-02-12 11:23 | Report Abuse

Highest Executive Director remuneration package
2010: $3.8mil p.a.
2012: $8.6mil p.a.

the remuneration increment is amazing in just 2 years time

Posted by KAHFIEHLAI > 2014-02-13 16:40 | Report Abuse

Saturn...what do u think this counter in nest 2 months?? I mean refer to Charting..seems time is very near already..

Posted by haikeyila > 2014-02-14 10:07 | Report Abuse

going by the history of this counter, i have a feeling that it will remain at this low price for a long, long time. good luck.

Posted by haikeyila > 2014-02-14 10:23 | Report Abuse

Do you know how much is the Tan Sri's actual holding in this counter? My guess is whatever retailers do have no bearing on its price.

Posted by haikeyila > 2014-02-14 10:29 | Report Abuse

As an investor, you should stay away from any counter with the slightest suspicion of 'goreng'. You sound more like a speculator or gambler.

Posted by haikeyila > 2014-02-14 10:38 | Report Abuse

you're missing the point totally. it doesn't matter if a counter is stellar or undervalued, etc. what matters more is who and how the company is being 'handled'

Posted by haikeyila > 2014-02-14 10:43 | Report Abuse

it was never a promise. it was a 'target'. looks like someone is losing the plot here.

Posted by haikeyila > 2014-02-14 10:59 | Report Abuse

poor fellow.. i just hope you dont have too much money stuck in there. good luck.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2014-02-15 00:29 | Report Abuse

I think all these talks about trust, branding, esos, etc are unnecessarily complicating things and missing the big picture. Trop's recent price weakness is due to their unexpectedly poor earnings, which is due to timing. As more and more profit are booked in and earnings rise, it will run like a horse. Period

Posted by Joyce > 2014-02-15 02:46 | Report Abuse

http://ul.to/wx58v5dd (Psychology)

Posted by Joyce > 2014-02-15 02:47 | Report Abuse

Need to have good psychology

Posted by Icon8888 > 2014-02-15 11:18 | Report Abuse

Saturn tropicana profit dropped from RM38m in June quarter to RM24m in September quarter. I think that is the main contributor to price weakness (everybody was expecting RM200m annual net profit)

I started investing in tropicana way back in 2009, before Tan Sri assets injection. I have been following this group for many years

Posted by Icon8888 > 2014-02-15 11:23 | Report Abuse

Saturn, today Edge has a write up on Penang Mcallister. Apparently doing well.

Btw, I have also invested in ivory. They are in JV with tropicana for Penang World City

You seemed to be an "insider" of tropicana (unlike me, who approach tropicana as a desktop analyst). Do you have any info on the latest status of Penang world city ? Can share ?

Posted by Icon8888 > 2014-02-15 16:01 | Report Abuse

Trop got IMMENSE potential. Let's just wait patiently

After all they r paying dividend

Posted by Icon8888 > 2014-02-15 18:49 | Report Abuse

Heard the son is a basxxxd. Super arrogant and nasty

Posted by tonylim > 2014-02-15 19:32 | Report Abuse

Satan, thanks for the note.
I told you so... lol

Posted by SaturnHollandKing > 2014-02-15 20:39 |

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Posted by tonylim > 2014-02-15 20:40 | Report Abuse

Lol you contribute lots of rhetoric. Nothing new.
No balls to say buy hold sell.