Posted by LaoLiu > 2015-04-09 09:44 | Report Abuse

Will find a new support point and push up more soon.

Posted by gangnam > 2015-04-09 10:04 | Report Abuse

Guess who will win de tug of war?..with foreign investors with deep chests being net buyers?

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 11:34 | Report Abuse

10 million units sold upto time of this post. They have finished and are out.
Now left the retail to suffer the brunt. Further fallout when T+3 about to kicks in.
9th April and 24th April would be dates to watch for.

Posted by LaoLiu > 2015-04-09 11:38 | Report Abuse

Now on supporting mode, will breakup a New High.

Posted by npznpznpz > 2015-04-09 12:02 | Report Abuse

up til 12pm, the total volume is just 92326 lots. where did the 10 mil units came from?

Posted by tksw > 2015-04-09 12:15 | Report Abuse

49 jual habis liao, I

Posted by gangnam > 2015-04-09 12:44 | Report Abuse

Hovid just sold their Indian biz for more than RM17 million...fresh with capital...can do wonders to their bottom line and finance fresh biz expansion :-)

Posted by singinvestor > 2015-04-09 13:25 | Report Abuse

Oh so 3 of us with Zai Zai too.

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 13:41 | Report Abuse

new high cannot be achieved. 50sen is the top.
all left is retail investors which is way way more than 3 months ago.
play share cannot look at technicals.
look at what is happening in the world.

if greece defaults on imf tomorow, worldwide markets will be in turmoil and Hovid? Well, drop lah.
if greece cannot satisfy EU anymore, then same story.

only thing going for BURSA is the net inflow because those fella are diverting funds from europe because of greece for the time being.

if greece ok liao, all money flow back to europe. Die HOVID again.

both situations bad for BURSA and HOVID.

I heard, that analyst going to come out with report again...couple or few days soon, instruction from Mr. Ho and Mr. Goh.

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 13:52 | Report Abuse

In todays senario (as people become smarter from the mistakes and fingers lost in the past decade), there are 2 things you have to remember about the business world.

1) Rights Issue is a big no-no and bad for the company. Why? Because only non-performing or sub-standards one ask for it. Great companies can generate CASH from profits quick and fast to go into new business, many don't.

2) The gold standard nowadays, if a company wants to do something, lets not talk about millions, you talk billions. RM25 million cant even get you a big plot of industrial land or high tech machineries.

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 13:58 | Report Abuse

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-04/greece-has-cash-to-make-imf-payment-next-week-minister-says

everyone has cash to make payments, so they say. go look at bloomberg again, if you can find, post here the debt repayments for greece in 2015/2016.

then lets discuss (apart from the greece/us/russia talk going on....)

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 14:13 | Report Abuse

Stii trying hard to search? oklah, I give it to you easy. Below are the total debt obligations that have to be repaid by greece from 2015 to 2020, all in USD

2015 - USD26.5 billion
2016 - USD6.2 billion
2017 - USD11.7 billion
2018 - USD4 billion
2019 - USD13.5 billion
2020 - USD28 billion

What is IMF loan repayment? Peanuts!

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 14:32 | Report Abuse

typical investor play share investor mentality, lack real world business exposure with kuaci level job experience.

at least you have should said something about points 1) and 2) in the previous post. not mentioning it tells me alot about you.

worst you seem to read only analyst reports. tell me, what is the utilisation level of Hovid? What is utilisation? Tip: Analyst don't know, because they are just finance graduates.

Ppl who don't know always harp about x times PE, x time EV, all these methods conjured up by finance ppl who do not know operations. All putting the finger in the air and make numbers.

"Lets stick to basics first...as still too early to divert from it...:) "
Is that the best answer for a claimed "long term investor"? Isn't that myopic vision?

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 14:35 | Report Abuse

if you want to play along with the speculators, please carry on. I am not stopping you.

It your TP is >50sen so be it. Gorenglah! Continue with your support for Hovid.

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 14:43 | Report Abuse

I feel so sorry for the retail investors who are still earnestly waiting for the FDA approval.
They think that is the key for Hovid's big time SUCCESS.

How can it be a SUCCESS when Patent holder is Carotech lah.

It GlaxoSmithKline were to say, hey I buy it from you for USD 1billion, they are going to pay carotech lah. The question is who holds the rest of the 70% of carotech?

TIP.
Go look for the boss who runs Pahang if you want to know the answer.

Posted by Zai Zai > 2015-04-09 14:58 | Report Abuse

my peanuts soldier, let attack..
V('.')

Posted by LaoLiu > 2015-04-09 15:02 | Report Abuse

Uptrend ongoing.

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 15:04 | Report Abuse

buybuybuy TP60 sen....

Posted by LaoLiu > 2015-04-09 15:20 | Report Abuse

As Hovid just reach a new high, it will be looking/testing for an actual support line, before knowing where it headed. For now, the trend is still on bull side.

Posted by Zai Zai > 2015-04-09 15:22 | Report Abuse

stay long. waiting new signal trigger.

Posted by okb1 > 2015-04-09 15:40 | Report Abuse

Pearlwhite, looks like you know quite abit about what's going on. Why don't you tell us small investors what you know in plain language instead of just feeling sorry for us? We'll be ever so grateful.

Posted by singinvestor > 2015-04-09 16:24 | Report Abuse

Please unlighten all of us on the patent issue as I don't have that knowledge and half of my eggs is in it. Please share with us more as I agree with all your ponits. Thanks in advance.

Posted by lwlgood > 2015-04-09 16:27 | Report Abuse

pls advise us, my carotech still in, want to take back from mother

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 16:29 | Report Abuse

this is how typical long term investor consoles himself - average entry of 21sen. That is how they console themselves.
Not the best way to make money unless Hovid is a Dutch Lady.
Do you know what is this Dutch Lady syndrome? I'm sure you don't know.

Here is the true story.

Way back in 1991, there was this investor who invested RM300k in Dutch Lady shares.

When he sold off in 2013, i.e. 20 years later (along the way bonus shares given etc), he got RM1million, so in theory profit RM700k.. He was so happy and shared his story to the investment community.

Little did he know, if he had invested rm300k in FD since 1991 and exited in 2013, the amount he would have got from FD was RM1.05 million. The FD gave him RM50k extra over his share profit.

In my mind, long term investor means getting lower returns than FD.

Posted by LaoLiu > 2015-04-09 16:37 | Report Abuse

What pearlwhite means, take profits, and don't think of those long term-TP?

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 16:41 | Report Abuse

Here are 3 things that Hovid should clarify:-

1) Is it true that Sanofi's contract is completed? Is there not an extension?

2) When will your new bid for tender yield results? I.e. investors want to see when this "new revenue" utilise the 70% capacity. When? 2017? 2018? Are the margins for these contract similar to Sanofi's?

Those of you familiar with medical outsourced manufacturing, it is a very competitive market and typically you win tenders by being the cheapest. So margins are really "shit", worst than phamarniaga.

3) Clarify which patents belong to hovid and carotech and identify which one is under FDA review.

Posted by lwlgood > 2015-04-09 16:43 | Report Abuse

Thx.

Posted by Shrekk > 2015-04-09 16:43 | Report Abuse

Pearlwhite, can u give the example of person invested in digi 300k in 2002 n keep long term until now compared to those kept the same amount in FD. Why must you specific only to dutch lady. I'm just learning. Tq.

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 17:00 | Report Abuse

Shrekk, you ask a very good question.

Buying Digi in 2002 is a smart and risky move. Buy when the
1) share price is very low
2) klse crashed

You long term when 1&2.

Lesson learn, you dont do long term when klse is 1800pts.

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 17:10 | Report Abuse

Is what I put up here "investment analysis"? It called COMMON SENSE lah. Dude, don't be so complicated lah.

Posted by pudi > 2015-04-09 17:18 | Report Abuse

Pearlwhite, i found that ur calculation is mistake ... 300k of FD from 1991 to 2013 = 300K X21 X 4%=250,000 , 300 +250 K =550K , SO pls dont simply tembak , if u dont know about bank system , dont simply spoil the forum here and go back to sleep ,thanks

Posted by pudi > 2015-04-09 17:23 | Report Abuse

Shrekk , if u buy DIGI 300k , by 2002 , Digi price is rm3 per unit , 300,000 k , you may buy 100lot..
Digi shoot up to RM30 by year 2010 , and split 1 to 10 ... so your lot become 1000 lot , not digi is RM6.45 per unit , u may get 6,45 x 1000000 = 6450000 <6.45 million > , and dividend per year RM400 X 100 X 13 years = RM520,000. U dont ask Pearlwhite because he is a foolish, he just a new learn , and stupid like a pig ,,,,,he dont know anything and dont know abt Digi

Posted by LaoLiu > 2015-04-09 17:29 | Report Abuse

Back to Hovid better, looking forward for Hovid tomorrow moving back upward direction or stabilize. Hopefully it will charge on to 0.500 and above.

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 17:39 | Report Abuse

I remember in 1997, interest rates were 9%? No? No compounding?
I also remember, the adjusted price of Digi after taking into account bonuses and etc. was 22 sen in 2002? Go back to school and learn share price re-adjustment lah.

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 18:15 | Report Abuse

thank you for proving my point. I thought you would have gone to the patent office to get the info.

Carotech is the owner, and whoever buys that for USD1 billion, pays carotech.
I don't think that the major shareholder (not David Ho by the way) would to give 30% away to Hovid for taking up all the risk.

Would the major shareholder produce it and sell it cheap to Hovid or do it themselves?

I think the latter.

Posted by gangnam > 2015-04-09 18:21 | Report Abuse

Read the lines cafefully to see who owns what?..."The pharmaceutical company (i.e. Hovid) does not produce tocotrienols but owns the formulation patent that facilitates the absorption of tocotrienols by the human body. It would be sourced from its phytonutrient production arm, Carotech".

Posted by Shrekk > 2015-04-09 19:03 | Report Abuse

Second question: Ms Pearlwhite, why do u suddenly appear today? Why you don't bother to appear here advocating us on those so-called hovid weaknesses when the share price is way below 40cts as example a year ago. Suddenly when the price strike yesterday, you suddenly came on board. I'm really puzzled. Pls help to clarify as we believe that u're sincere helping n saving us. I'm just learning. Tq.

Posted by Shrekk > 2015-04-09 19:05 | Report Abuse

If you are here one year ago all of us are saved from this "poor" company. Pity us.

Posted by Shrekk > 2015-04-09 19:07 | Report Abuse

Please Ms Pearlwhite, we really hope your assistance to save us. You are our hero.

Posted by Logic Trading Analysis > 2015-04-09 19:10 | Report Abuse

this pearlwhite dont do joking here lah.. alamak.. you wan make people sell and you collect quietly is it? hahahahahhaa.. hovid need new tender? hovid is direct supplies to more than 50 countries, pharmacy shop, and even local hospital, 1 malaysia clinic. you ada pergi hospital ambil medicine atau tidak? if not dont simply comment lah.. hovid order is already too much until they cant produce more only they expand their production. you think people will built empty plant and only start thinking where to get business? that must be YOUR OWN business plan. poor you.

If you did analysis detail about hovid, then you only give comment lah.. tolong.. patent or not patent not important, they are selling generic medicine, its doesn't need patent at all.. lucu la you.. you tau apa generic atau tidak? teruk teruk ini pearlwhite.

about long term investment. if you beli digi 10 year ago. now every year take 100% or more return. apa tak baik ? FIX DEPOSIT kasih ka?

HOVID ini long term memang baik ! banyak lagi pattern ubat company lain akan expired then hovid can produce them. .. they are doing export business, USD up also tidak apa..

just wait and see, hovid sekarang correction sahaja saya rasa.. when it hit 0.50, 0.60 you jangan nangis hahaha..

Posted by Logic Trading Analysis > 2015-04-09 19:14 | Report Abuse

pearlwhite baca lah sikit baru comment.. jangan suka suka cakap pattern ini sana.. apa pasal dengan carotech lagi?? itu cerita lama sudah lah.. u faham apa beza pattern dan generic atau tidak? aiyooo yooo

From Annual report 2014 of hovid.

On the global arena front, the healthcare industry is among the most
dynamic and speedily growing industries. Many countries across the
globe are facing challenge to deal with the rapidly escalating cost of
healthcare. With aging populations, an increase in chronic ailments
spending, government programs to expand access to healthcare,
coupled with some heavy government debts and constraints on tax
revenue, more countries are trimming their healthcare spending, health
authorities are switching from the expensive patented medicines
to the cheaper generic equivalents. On top of that, RM422 billion of
prescription and pharmaceutical drug patents are about to expire in the
next 10 years. This will open up an attractive global market opportunity
for the Malaysian generics exports and allows Hovid, the Malaysia’s
largest exporter of independent branded generic drugs manufacturer
with global presence, to aggressively participate in this global shift,
expand its sales and become a major player in the region’s healthcare
arena.

There is increasing demand for our medicines. In 2014, Hovid
continued the positive growth trend of the past few years. Revenue
in the pharmaceutical segment of Hovid Group achieved another
historical high of RM183.5 million in the recent financial year ended
2014 compared to RM172.5 million a year ago. Your Company persist
to make good progress with our product pipeline. We supply medicines
to over 50 countries worldwide with a total population of more than 1.0
billion. Our key export markets include numerous developing countries
such as Nigeria, Ghana, Hong Kong, the Philippines, Cambodia and
Singapore. The fastest-growing region in the coming years could be
the Middle East and Africa, where spending is expected to rise by
an average of 10 percent annually. Also, according to the industry
information company IMS, emerging markets and Asia Pacific saw the
largest sales growth at 10%, pushing the proportion of total sales from
the region up to 22% for 2013. Forging ahead, the Group strive to
establish stronger foothold in these territories.

Posted by Logic Trading Analysis > 2015-04-09 19:16 | Report Abuse

Pearlwhite.. perlu tender lagi tak? hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa jangan sikit sikit tender.. ini bukan main rasuah lah.. aiyo.. tidak perlu under table punya..

Posted by Shrekk > 2015-04-09 19:48 | Report Abuse

I really believe Ms Pearl white is very sincere to help and saving us from this poor company. Thank u very much on your valuable effort and insights. If I'm your father I must be very grateful and lucky to have a daughter like you. Your mum must also be proud of you. Thank you ya my hero...

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 20:02 | Report Abuse

ah, all the rats have come out, save for shrekk.

all I see is some cut and paste job from Hovid PR, newspaper & analyst report parroting Hovid.

of course, the music and belief all sound the same. so it must be true lah.

LOL

Posted by Logic Trading Analysis > 2015-04-09 20:52 | Report Abuse

sad for you pearlwhite :)

Posted by Shrekk > 2015-04-09 21:28 | Report Abuse

Ms pearl white my second question you have not yet answered. My 1st question about digi you responded to us very fast obviously u are very sincere to assist us although that question my kitty in fact also can answer. Even I was praised to have given you a good question. Come on answer my question sweety. Otherwise, all of us in this thread are in big trouble messing with this poor company. You are our saviour.

Posted by LaoLiu > 2015-04-09 21:45 | Report Abuse

Logic Trading Analysis is right, support you+1, looking forward to breakup 0.500 and above.

Posted by pearlwhite > 2015-04-09 21:55 | Report Abuse

go treat me as a troublemaker. I'm ok with that.

Posted by Logic Trading Analysis > 2015-04-09 22:11 | Report Abuse

pearlwhite you dint respond about your tender.. you think hovid need tender for business o? hahahaha

Posted by Shrekk > 2015-04-09 23:46 | Report Abuse

Ms pearl white ini orangnya pandai nampaknya semua soalan dia boleh jawab dengan baik. Hebat orangnya ni.