Posted by kimssiat > 2015-09-21 10:22 | Report Abuse

Up so slow ...

Posted by longzai1001 > 2015-09-23 18:19 | Report Abuse

Why KLCI down then this HG also down?

Posted by popcorn > 2015-09-23 20:12 | Report Abuse

It will up in next trading day to compensate today down...
It happened to HP and HQ yesterday...

Posted by drogonfai > 2015-09-23 21:14 | Report Abuse

Popcorn u look into all put and call warrent a?

Posted by drogonfai > 2015-09-23 21:15 | Report Abuse

Longzai, i also weird because h5 also down...

Posted by popcorn > 2015-09-23 21:20 | Report Abuse

Another reason is ppl taking profit or the warrant issuer keep selling as they expect klci index value will higher than break even price at expiry. ... they have all data...

Posted by popcorn > 2015-09-23 21:23 | Report Abuse

H5 down mainly bcos nobody goreng and the premium is high.
beside it is out of money , mean it is worth zero value at current index value. ... H5 is potential as the expiry date is longer. Recommendable to enter when index below 1600

Posted by kakashi > 2015-09-23 21:26 | Report Abuse

Or another reason is because people are expecting technical rebound when KLSE hit 1600-1620 region. That is why u see Call warrant didn't drop much or didn't drop at all (C12) when KLSe drop 20++ points...
Maybe some group of ppl anticipate a rebound

Posted by popcorn > 2015-09-23 22:18 | Report Abuse

anything not reaching the exercise price is worthless...
it go up bcos got ppl goreng it and some others follow... after some points, the shart dump all then bilis stuck at high price...

Posted by Striker Dota > 2015-10-01 21:47 | Report Abuse

1. Window dressing.
2. Typically Oct is a good month.

Posted by Lim Elson > 2015-10-09 10:30 | Report Abuse

itulah... tak ada expert kat sini... your money in your pocket is your.. in stock market anytime will be other..
do your homework and dont trust anyone here... you only can take other comment as a idea before you conclude yourself... that why everyone PRESS comment b4 send out the message.

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-09 11:05 | Report Abuse

LoL, u guys do realize this warrant is kao kao overpriced rite... at this price ur anticipating the index to be below 1653 by end nov... anything above 1653 u lose money

Posted by popcorn > 2015-10-09 11:10 | Report Abuse

dun worry, it will return to 1600-1610 range~

Posted by eddieleong84 > 2015-10-09 11:11 | Report Abuse

Buylowsellhigh, can i know to get 1653 figure as i am new to put warrant

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-09 11:14 | Report Abuse

its better off u short the KLCI-NOV futures, at 1700, much better , about 50 dollars better per unit...

Posted by popcorn > 2015-10-09 11:15 | Report Abuse

hey bro, you can study warrant @

https://www.malaysiawarrants.com.my/indexdw

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-09 11:25 | Report Abuse

the conversion ratio is 667:1 and strike price is 1800 for this put warrant, which means u have to buy 667 units of this warrant to have the option to sell it back to CIMB at 1800 at nov 30th( when the warrant expires).

667 X 0.225( current price) = $150.

Essentially ur paying 150 to have the option to sell it back to them at 1800, which brings the index to be 1800 - 150 = 1650 for u to break even. for example, if the index at the end of nov is 1700, ur paying 150 now, buying the index at 1700 at 30th nov and selling back to them at 1800. ur total outflow will be (-150 - 1700 + 1800) = -50. So unless the index is below 1650, u lose money.

Where as the KLCI- Nov futures now is 1700, if the index is below 1700 by end nov u make money...

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-09 11:26 | Report Abuse

this is how the bank make money, they issue over priced put warrants. they short the KLCI futures at a higher price and buy the warrant back from u at a lower price (strike price + warrant price factored in)

Posted by warrantKing > 2015-10-11 11:45 | Report Abuse

When the bull comes , people tend to forget the bear , and vice versa.
Oil price dropped from USD 100 to USD 40, KLCI dropped from 1800 to 1500,
But when oil price raise from USD 40 to USD 50, KLCI fly from 1500 to 1700.
However what really harm our nation is an UNCLEAR COMPANY who owns 42 BIllions of DEBT , and a UNCLEAR RICH SAUDI GUY , who donated 700 millions USD.
Please think carefully , HK , Singapore , Switzerland and USA also want to investigate this SUPER COMPANY , U THINK IT WILL BE CLEAN?
Be fair , USA and Singapore might has some political intention , BUT HK's ICAC and Switzerland are well known in ANTI CORRUPTION.

Posted by kimssiat > 2015-10-12 16:53 | Report Abuse

(1800 - Current Index ie 1700) / 667 = 0.15 => This HG worth 0.15 now. So 0.225 is still overvalued.

Posted by kimssiat > 2015-10-12 16:55 | Report Abuse

If you but 0.225, by end of Nov 2015, Index will to be below 1650 to earn money from issuer (bank).

Posted by kimssiat > 2015-10-12 16:55 | Report Abuse

*buy

Posted by EATs > 2015-10-13 23:18 | Report Abuse

ANY ONE EVER THOUGHT, BY THE EXPIRY DATE OF HG,
THE INDEX BREACHED 1800, AND IT BECOME TOILET PAPER?

Posted by EATs > 2015-10-14 00:28 | Report Abuse

DOW 22,000 by DEC 2015

Posted by kenen > 2015-10-14 15:17 | Report Abuse

Asia market crash...gudtime to accomulate...

Posted by kimssiat > 2015-10-15 15:08 | Report Abuse

Probably won't reach 1800, but at current price will lose a lot.

Posted by Lim Elson > 2015-10-15 15:19 | Report Abuse

itulah... tak ada expect kat sini... jangan 100% percaya orang... orang cakap dengar, buat kajian dulu... lepas itu baru invest...

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-15 15:36 | Report Abuse

it doesnt matter if it will breach 1800 or whatever shit... its still cheaper to buy the nov futures than play this shit

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-16 16:46 | Report Abuse

HOHOHO, all those that buy 20 cents n above bye bye money, lol

Posted by IndependentSource > 2015-10-19 14:35 | Report Abuse

tomorrow 0.190 above

Posted by cskek81 > 2015-10-19 15:39 | Report Abuse

how you know IndependentSource?

Posted by IndependentSource > 2015-10-19 15:48 | Report Abuse

just my expectation... do u believe our economy this strong? as u can see from daily life, our economic become more struggle day by day...

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-20 10:12 | Report Abuse

LoL, strong no strong no difference, u see how they control the market? asia all down, but msia down 2 points, but ringgit down like cock, LOL

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-20 10:12 | Report Abuse

we got value cap dai gor... no need scared de

Posted by IndependentSource > 2015-10-20 16:34 | Report Abuse

:)

Posted by IndependentSource > 2015-10-20 16:35 | Report Abuse

tomorrow continue up :) above 0.250

Posted by wkkht > 2015-10-21 08:34 | Report Abuse

today 0.30

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-21 10:11 | Report Abuse

wkkht, u say today what?, lol

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-21 11:00 | Report Abuse

told u guys liao lor... got value cap dai gor, how u think this share can go 30 cents today

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-21 16:34 | Report Abuse

u see la now, all kena trap, whole world down Malaysia Kuat... thanks to value cap n epf, LoL

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-21 16:35 | Report Abuse

faster call them and say thank you for keeping the index up

Posted by The Maker > 2015-10-21 21:59 | Report Abuse

the magic of bursa.. world red bursa green, world green bursa red...

Posted by apanama > 2015-10-21 22:06 | Report Abuse

Ya lah..bank kena byr staff..byr vendor..nak byr dividend jugak..hehe..byk kena byr..dah lah hutang pun ramai x byr..:)

Posted by screwdriver > 2015-10-26 16:47 | Report Abuse

Buy (punt) now and you wont regret for trying. Full stop

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-27 16:24 | Report Abuse

LOL, market drop 13 points, this share no move... geng...

Posted by screwdriver > 2015-10-27 16:59 | Report Abuse

anyone who sold -hg today at 0.185 and 0.190? Mind to share your reasoning and view for doing so? Just wonder why.

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-28 10:13 | Report Abuse

market down another 10 points this sozai still no change in price, LOL

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-28 10:50 | Report Abuse

almost at exercise price ad at this point this share still stuck , LOL

Posted by BuyLowSellHigh > 2015-10-28 16:09 | Report Abuse

seriously ah... ppl so bullish about the market when market drop 30 points over past few days this share actually drop with it

Posted by ngwt > 2015-10-28 16:54 | Report Abuse

What will happen to Bursa Index when ValueCap invest on November? IMHO, most of the people *believe* Index will stand above 1,700 point. If this statement is true, HG is worth for 14.5c and another concerned is the expired date just 1 month away to 30/11/2015. But market is unpredictable, please judge your own to invest.