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Posted by Fund_Manager > 2015-09-19 20:49 | Report Abuse

Lk059, HV intrinsic value also zero now at 1669, though it has long expiry date. If you have bad luck on HK then I suggest you get HW. Its expiry date, strike price and conversion ratio all are better than HV, and it's only 4cent higher. You should do your homework on all puts rather than depends on your luck alone.


Posted by lk059 > Sep 19, 2015 05:48 PM | Report Abuse

Fm, how about hv. I always loss at hk but better luck on h1 and hv.

Cyborg

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Posted by Cyborg > 2015-09-19 21:06 | Report Abuse

FM what is your prediction on the current trend?

tonysony

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Posted by tonysony > 2015-09-19 21:08 | Report Abuse

Hi, FM, Do you think HK/HV can raise up above 50Sen?

Cyborg

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Posted by Cyborg > 2015-09-19 21:15 | Report Abuse

zerocool7199
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Posted by zerocool7199 > Sep 19, 2015 07:00 PM | Report Abuse

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/tag/stock-market-crash

very good article for people who don't have experience from previous market crash... worth to read

Posted by Fund_Manager > 2015-09-19 21:39 | Report Abuse

HK and HV hit the peak around 57-62 sen when index was down to around 1540. Do you believe the index will revisit 1550 level in 2-3 months time? If you believe look no further. HK, HV, HG and HW are your best bets.

Posted by tonysony > Sep 19, 2015 09:08 PM | Report Abuse

Hi, FM, Do you think HK/HV can raise up above 50Sen?

popcorn

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Posted by popcorn > 2015-09-19 21:48 | Report Abuse

i got to pray vry hard then.. I bought HG @ 40cents....

Posted by FBMKLCI2015 > 2015-09-19 21:53 | Report Abuse

H5 is at cheaper price now 14cents as compared to these HK HV HG..don't understand why u all don't consider h5. I'm not promoting or asking u all to buy since I'm still monitoring these puts. Anyway, goodluck to everyone..hope u can make profit out of it.

bfg9000

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Posted by bfg9000 > 2015-09-19 22:45 | Report Abuse

Good luck AlphaJack, I saw 80k C1 transacted at 0.285 just before market close. RM22.8k only, 10% is like RM2.3k, small change for you.

FM: The 77% probability of no hike was correct; hope you got chance to dispose your HG on the wave 4 correction before wave 5 commence. At 72 days left there premium degradation will be pretty high if wave 4 turns out to be a short one. Now it is at 25% premium, it will eventually drop to the level like for warrants at around 30 days left, at 3%. That's a 30 index points margin disappearing as the clock runs down.


Posted by alphajack > Sep 18, 2015 09:28 PM | Report Abuse
told u all HSI CP would fly. made nice money rdy hahahha
last minute whacked FBMKLCI-C1 at 28.5c so cheap before closing
Monday KLCI should open a bit green, another 10% fast huat for me
Besides that, sold my Air Asia, Homeritz and bought Skpres, MikroMb and Mitrajaya.
these all will have more room to huat
Havent touched puts ready and would not even care to do it.
HK see you at 20c kakakakaka

Posted by taipingbear > 2015-09-19 22:55 | Report Abuse

Good Luck Guys

Posted by indicators > Sep 19, 2015 10:54 PM | Report Abuse

Daily Trading Participation (18/09/2015) Friday
(Brought / Sold / Net )
16.1 % Local Retail - 412.8/433.1/Minus 20.3
49.3 % Local Institution - 1232.1/1358.7/Minus 126.6
34.6 % Foreign - 982.5 / 835.6 /Nett 146.9

Daily Trading Participation (17/09/2015) Thursday
(Brought / Sold / Net )
13.9 % Local Retail - 402.2/468.3/Minus 66.1
55.2 % Local Institution - 1430.0/1846.3/Minus 416.3
33.9 % Foreign - 1306.0/823.6 /Nett 482.4

Daily Trading Participation (15/09/2015) Tuesday
(Brought / Sold / Net )
18.94% Local Retail - 421.93/483.56/Minus 61.63
57.84% Local Institution - 1342.76/1422.92/Minus 80.16
23.22% Foreign - 625.94 / 484.16 /Nett 141.79

Daily Trading Participation (14/09/2015) Monday
(Brought / Sold / Net )
19.15% Local Retail - 419.02/435.75/Minus 16.73
58.71% Local Institution - 1361.33/1258.62/Nett 102.71
22.14% Foreign - 451.13 / 537.11 /Minus 85.98

julian1981

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Posted by julian1981 > 2015-09-19 23:01 | Report Abuse

cyborg, are you there? How's everything going on?

alphajack

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Posted by alphajack > 2015-09-19 23:58 | Report Abuse

yep that was me who bought that..small change only..in fact closing of c1 was already 31.5c and I am already 2.3k up lol

Even if market opens down a bit on Monday I would breakeven at worst..who cares..I will buy more at 28c..it will eventually rebound..anyone smart can tell that when this delay is highly beneficial to EM especially Msia, that is why 2 days last week foreigners became net buyers already.

Last week I already made RM42k from HSI-CP..next week hit RM10k also ok la already hit more than my quota needed..

For those who are bullish on the index, buy at dips and make sure you buy Macquaire ones now..cimb ones are all pretty unfair and useless. HK should already be at 15c now but they havent throw it down yet. Eventually it will happen. to fund manager or whoever you are, all I can say is pitiful..such a poor soul. Hope you even live after this, gonna be hard for your to recover your losses now, tiny fly hahaha

Posted by Fund_Manager > 2015-09-20 00:18 | Report Abuse

Hahaha...AJ you are the biggest clown here..you play only rm23k on C1 and yet you claim yourself to be a part of the syndicate??? You must be the smallest syndicate i ever seen. :) I bet your capital is around rm50k??? Wakakakaa

Posted by PutOrCall > 2015-09-20 01:00 | Report Abuse

Hi I am new here. I been following this alphajack comments. Seem like top trading sifu.

I will read and learn.

Posted by Fund_Manager > 2015-09-20 07:44 | Report Abuse

Reason is simple. The strike price for H5 is 1500. So you gotta pray very hard for klci index to go below 1500 before March 2016. HG has a strike price is 1800, so it is in the money now. HK is also in the money, strike price 1735. HV is slightly out of the money, strike price 1659. H5 looks cheap at 14sen but actually it is not. Check out the following webpage and you'll see at 14sen H5 still has the highest premium to KLCI of all puts.

http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Market-Watch.aspx?type=C&value=KLCI-PUT


Posted by FBMKLCI2015 > Sep 19, 2015 09:53 PM | Report Abuse

H5 is at cheaper price now 14cents as compared to these HK HV HG..don't understand why u all don't consider h5. I'm not promoting or asking u all to buy since I'm still monitoring these puts. Anyway, goodluck to everyone..hope u can make profit out of it.

Posted by warrenbucket > 2015-09-20 08:04 | Report Abuse

FM, so why not buy and keep HG for three months and if CI is below 1800 by then...we can laugh all the way to our banks?! no?

Posted by FBMKLCI2015 > 2015-09-20 12:37 | Report Abuse

Alpha Jack, polar bear from US will be release soon!!

Alpha Trader

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Posted by Alpha Trader > 2015-09-20 16:41 | Report Abuse

Alpha jack is god of i3, last month he said hk to be 80centd now 20cents, haha

catl

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Posted by catl > 2015-09-20 23:36 | Report Abuse

@alphajack - @Alpha Trader is correct. One month ago, you were promoting HK and HV like hell. I saw your name in both forums and as Alpha Trader says, you said something like "Buy All In, Trust Me ... I won't bring you to Holland". Yes, like Alpha Trader said, you said it would be easily RM0.80 by last quarter. I followed your advice and bought all in and lost quite a lot of money.

In fact, if you read my post 1 month ago in this forum, I have even praised you for your calls in Supermax also. But when the market didn't tank and in fact, turned around - I couldn't believe the comments you were making - saying that we are all fools to buy into HK and asked us to buy other warrants instead. But before that you were promoting HK and HV like hell.

@alphajack I don't blame you or anything - I have learnt my lesson well here. But at least don't make a fool of us lah - like saying we are fools to buy into HK and HV. The least you can say is say that "Government suddenly shore up the local index linked counters and it is out of your expectations that the CI would turn back up and not trend down like other regional bourses." That would have been easier for us to swallow. I wish you all the best in your investments.

Charles

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Posted by Charles > 2015-09-21 00:38 | Report Abuse

what's the plan for tmrw, all the sifus here?

Jim Tan

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Posted by Jim Tan > 2015-09-21 04:39 | Report Abuse

Among the PW -
HP have the lowest 1.76% Premium (Dont look at HM as its gonna expired in a week ) but have remaining 77 Days till expiry.. If you brought it now, you only need KLSE to be 1640 to break even. That's less then 30Points

HQ - 2.06%
HG - 2.57% but 70 Days

But i think no one will Goreng them, as their life is coming to an end soon.

Jim Tan

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Posted by Jim Tan > 2015-09-21 04:42 | Report Abuse

HX Premium of 4.19% and 192Days left.. lowest among tier.

can consider HX if you think market gonna be very bad in the upcoming months..

i personally like HG/P/Q i think by end September gonna be the worse hit.. just my 2 cent

expensive

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Posted by expensive > 2015-09-21 05:03 | Report Abuse

Jim Tan can you show how you get 4.19% premium for HX. My own calculation show HX only worth 36sen.

Jim Tan

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Posted by Jim Tan > 2015-09-21 07:25 | Report Abuse

4.19% Premium over its index point movement.

meaning you need 69.93 Points thats 4.19% over current 1,669.45

popcorn

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Posted by popcorn > 2015-09-21 07:45 | Report Abuse

HP and HQ nobody goreng it.. been monitor these two weeks ago.
got market maker to control this price but the spread is few pip, say buy 0.325 and sell 0.350. you may get low price and you cant sell it~

Jim Tan

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Posted by Jim Tan > 2015-09-21 09:14 | Report Abuse

True, but i if you enter now and wait till expiry.. its a great PW.. well if you forecast KLSE to drop further and further so why not?

kentg03

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Posted by kentg03 > 2015-09-21 09:16 | Report Abuse

feel like buy what also will die. better stay away n have a look first

Bilis Bilis

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Posted by Bilis Bilis > 2015-09-21 09:17 | Report Abuse

FM : is today THE day?..................

Posted by Fund_Manager > 2015-09-21 09:21 | Report Abuse

Bilis2, get in when the price is still low..

Posted by Bilis Bilis > Sep 21, 2015 09:17 AM | Report Abuse

FM : is today THE day?..

Bilis Bilis

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Posted by Bilis Bilis > 2015-09-21 09:27 | Report Abuse

I think KLCI will go all the way to 1645...

Bilis Bilis

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Posted by Bilis Bilis > 2015-09-21 09:40 | Report Abuse

unfortunately i dont have klci account....

Cloudboy

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Posted by Cloudboy > 2015-09-21 09:45 | Report Abuse

as i mentioned earlier.....shark are distributing share...u need klci to drop a lot only h share got value....sell even profit = 0 or loss a bit......but anyway..its up to u all....just a reminder...thanks

mmllkkyy

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Posted by mmllkkyy > 2015-09-21 09:50 | Report Abuse

alphajack HSI-CP lao sai today by 30%...he might have sold at high of the day in the early trade... haha

julian1981

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Posted by julian1981 > 2015-09-21 09:52 | Report Abuse

HSI-CP still got hope AJ?

mmllkkyy

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Posted by mmllkkyy > 2015-09-21 09:58 | Report Abuse

Julian, I think stay side line for a while, HSI Future -486pts now...

julian1981

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Posted by julian1981 > 2015-09-21 10:08 | Report Abuse

okok..noted..thanks.

bleuerouge

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Posted by bleuerouge > 2015-09-21 10:17 | Report Abuse

now HG movement looks interesting

alphajack

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Posted by alphajack > 2015-09-21 10:19 | Report Abuse

Pitiful la u Julian, that is why newbies should never play structures warrants because you all dont know how to monitor..

I rdy said sell on Friday, friday I sold at 24c huge profit.

Futures turned red sure die la Monday

btw collected back 15.5c just now and sold 17.5

The only one i kena today is C1..top up lo 24-25c

Tomorrow green I ong back lo

mthc

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Posted by mthc > 2015-09-21 10:24 | Report Abuse

Tmr will rebound.

Posted by Alvin Lin Wei Yang > 2015-09-21 10:24 | Report Abuse

What the hell HK

julian1981

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Posted by julian1981 > 2015-09-21 10:25 | Report Abuse

AJ..i didn't play HSI-CP so far..

Bilis Bilis

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Posted by Bilis Bilis > 2015-09-21 10:26 | Report Abuse

Bilis Bilis I think KLCI will go all the way to 1645...
21/09/2015 09:27
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1645 just done 6 minutes ago.....

now we wait to see.............

bfg9000

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Posted by bfg9000 > 2015-09-21 10:31 | Report Abuse

Bilit bilis, time to enter calls?

Bilis Bilis

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Posted by Bilis Bilis > 2015-09-21 10:35 | Report Abuse

bfg9000 Bilit bilis, time to enter calls?
21/09/2015 10:31

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I am too new to C & H to answer (honestly),maybe FM is a better person...

What do you think FM?

mthc

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Posted by mthc > 2015-09-21 10:37 | Report Abuse

If klci dip to 1640 then let go all putties. don't hold ady if you are a very short term trader.

que for calls

Superb99

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Posted by Superb99 > 2015-09-21 10:44 | Report Abuse

hk is not moving at all

Posted by Ong Lie Chin > 2015-09-21 10:45 | Report Abuse

Mthc,dun give advice here..play yourself and quiet ,....dun be big shot here...

Posted by new_old_fool > 2015-09-21 11:08 | Report Abuse

fm, Only HG is moving today, HK doing negative some more & HW unchanged. HK got kang tau or not ?

vinoth

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Posted by vinoth > 2015-09-21 11:18 | Report Abuse

How come not moving?

Posted by Fund_Manager > 2015-09-21 11:20 | Report Abuse

Buy HW

Posted by new_old_fool > Sep 21, 2015 11:08 AM | Report Abuse

fm, Only HG is moving today, HK doing negative some more & HW unchanged. HK got kang tau or not ?

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