Lk059, HV intrinsic value also zero now at 1669, though it has long expiry date. If you have bad luck on HK then I suggest you get HW. Its expiry date, strike price and conversion ratio all are better than HV, and it's only 4cent higher. You should do your homework on all puts rather than depends on your luck alone.
HK and HV hit the peak around 57-62 sen when index was down to around 1540. Do you believe the index will revisit 1550 level in 2-3 months time? If you believe look no further. HK, HV, HG and HW are your best bets.
H5 is at cheaper price now 14cents as compared to these HK HV HG..don't understand why u all don't consider h5. I'm not promoting or asking u all to buy since I'm still monitoring these puts. Anyway, goodluck to everyone..hope u can make profit out of it.
Good luck AlphaJack, I saw 80k C1 transacted at 0.285 just before market close. RM22.8k only, 10% is like RM2.3k, small change for you.
FM: The 77% probability of no hike was correct; hope you got chance to dispose your HG on the wave 4 correction before wave 5 commence. At 72 days left there premium degradation will be pretty high if wave 4 turns out to be a short one. Now it is at 25% premium, it will eventually drop to the level like for warrants at around 30 days left, at 3%. That's a 30 index points margin disappearing as the clock runs down.
Posted by alphajack > Sep 18, 2015 09:28 PM | Report Abuse told u all HSI CP would fly. made nice money rdy hahahha last minute whacked FBMKLCI-C1 at 28.5c so cheap before closing Monday KLCI should open a bit green, another 10% fast huat for me Besides that, sold my Air Asia, Homeritz and bought Skpres, MikroMb and Mitrajaya. these all will have more room to huat Havent touched puts ready and would not even care to do it. HK see you at 20c kakakakaka
yep that was me who bought that..small change only..in fact closing of c1 was already 31.5c and I am already 2.3k up lol
Even if market opens down a bit on Monday I would breakeven at worst..who cares..I will buy more at 28c..it will eventually rebound..anyone smart can tell that when this delay is highly beneficial to EM especially Msia, that is why 2 days last week foreigners became net buyers already.
Last week I already made RM42k from HSI-CP..next week hit RM10k also ok la already hit more than my quota needed..
For those who are bullish on the index, buy at dips and make sure you buy Macquaire ones now..cimb ones are all pretty unfair and useless. HK should already be at 15c now but they havent throw it down yet. Eventually it will happen. to fund manager or whoever you are, all I can say is pitiful..such a poor soul. Hope you even live after this, gonna be hard for your to recover your losses now, tiny fly hahaha
Hahaha...AJ you are the biggest clown here..you play only rm23k on C1 and yet you claim yourself to be a part of the syndicate??? You must be the smallest syndicate i ever seen. :) I bet your capital is around rm50k??? Wakakakaa
Reason is simple. The strike price for H5 is 1500. So you gotta pray very hard for klci index to go below 1500 before March 2016. HG has a strike price is 1800, so it is in the money now. HK is also in the money, strike price 1735. HV is slightly out of the money, strike price 1659. H5 looks cheap at 14sen but actually it is not. Check out the following webpage and you'll see at 14sen H5 still has the highest premium to KLCI of all puts.
H5 is at cheaper price now 14cents as compared to these HK HV HG..don't understand why u all don't consider h5. I'm not promoting or asking u all to buy since I'm still monitoring these puts. Anyway, goodluck to everyone..hope u can make profit out of it.
@alphajack - @Alpha Trader is correct. One month ago, you were promoting HK and HV like hell. I saw your name in both forums and as Alpha Trader says, you said something like "Buy All In, Trust Me ... I won't bring you to Holland". Yes, like Alpha Trader said, you said it would be easily RM0.80 by last quarter. I followed your advice and bought all in and lost quite a lot of money.
In fact, if you read my post 1 month ago in this forum, I have even praised you for your calls in Supermax also. But when the market didn't tank and in fact, turned around - I couldn't believe the comments you were making - saying that we are all fools to buy into HK and asked us to buy other warrants instead. But before that you were promoting HK and HV like hell.
@alphajack I don't blame you or anything - I have learnt my lesson well here. But at least don't make a fool of us lah - like saying we are fools to buy into HK and HV. The least you can say is say that "Government suddenly shore up the local index linked counters and it is out of your expectations that the CI would turn back up and not trend down like other regional bourses." That would have been easier for us to swallow. I wish you all the best in your investments.
Among the PW - HP have the lowest 1.76% Premium (Dont look at HM as its gonna expired in a week ) but have remaining 77 Days till expiry.. If you brought it now, you only need KLSE to be 1640 to break even. That's less then 30Points
HQ - 2.06% HG - 2.57% but 70 Days
But i think no one will Goreng them, as their life is coming to an end soon.
HP and HQ nobody goreng it.. been monitor these two weeks ago. got market maker to control this price but the spread is few pip, say buy 0.325 and sell 0.350. you may get low price and you cant sell it~
as i mentioned earlier.....shark are distributing share...u need klci to drop a lot only h share got value....sell even profit = 0 or loss a bit......but anyway..its up to u all....just a reminder...thanks
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Posted by Fund_Manager > 2015-09-19 20:49 | Report Abuse
Lk059, HV intrinsic value also zero now at 1669, though it has long expiry date. If you have bad luck on HK then I suggest you get HW. Its expiry date, strike price and conversion ratio all are better than HV, and it's only 4cent higher. You should do your homework on all puts rather than depends on your luck alone.
Posted by lk059 > Sep 19, 2015 05:48 PM | Report Abuse
Fm, how about hv. I always loss at hk but better luck on h1 and hv.