Posted by N00b > 2015-09-17 20:49 | Report Abuse

Here's a very general guideline to go by:

http://s29.postimg.org/qf0al5dwn/winners_and_losers_tightening_0.jpg

if the Fed does not tighten, just flip the winner and loser columns.

Posted by alphajack > 2015-09-17 21:19 | Report Abuse

HK HV and all those unfair ones are only targeted by idiots now.

Even if you wanna bet against the market the only way to make money in puts is through fairly valued ones by Macquaire.

Those who still promote HK HV HG obviously is in deep loss there and may not recover it back because all of them are doomed as KLCI will most likely test above 1700 after hike announcement defered to December (later announce)

Better to play the Cs by Macquarie which are fair or Hang Seng warrnats

My favorite is HSI-CP because the gearing is huge. HSI 1% up tomorrow can make almost 30% from it..27-27.5c

Good luck :)

Posted by Charles > 2015-09-17 21:51 | Report Abuse

Private equity magnate David Rubenstein, the founder of The Carlyle Group, made himself a billionaire by reading the markets. And he says the Fed will not raise interest rates this month.

Speaking on CNBC, Rubenstein argues that the Fed will wait until investors expect a hike before acting. As he put it:

“The Fed is really the central bank of the world. If the Fed raise rates a little bit, it will have an impact all over the world, particularly in emerging markets.

“I think the Fed is sensitive to that, and I think therefore the Fed is likely to wait for another month or two to get additional data and probably telegraph a little bit better than it has now that it’s about ready to do it at a particular time.”

Posted by Cyborg > 2015-09-17 22:04 | Report Abuse

pppfff.... look like we are doom...

Posted by Cyborg > 2015-09-17 22:07 | Report Abuse

kawan kawan... why u guys hiding now? lets face it together

Posted by julian1981 > 2015-09-17 22:10 | Report Abuse

"don't worry about tomorrow as tomorrow will worry about itself" - who knows miracle can happen tomorrow morning..

Posted by Cyborg > 2015-09-17 22:12 | Report Abuse

fed rate hike bye bye.... trillion being sweep ....

Posted by Charles > 2015-09-17 22:13 | Report Abuse

looks like chinese fortune teller "puak pui", tossing coins and tarot cards are trustable.
we are GG and doomed tomorrow!

Posted by Cyborg > 2015-09-17 22:14 | Report Abuse

what else to do... eat kang kung...

Posted by julian1981 > 2015-09-17 22:24 | Report Abuse

nothing much we can do..just be positive all the time will do..life is so short.

Posted by Cyborg > 2015-09-17 22:25 | Report Abuse

julian if we loss, let go holland together...

Posted by Charles > 2015-09-17 22:27 | Report Abuse

bring me along please

Posted by julian1981 > 2015-09-17 22:28 | Report Abuse

Cyborg , I think we better go for kang kung dinner together..

Posted by Cyborg > 2015-09-17 22:29 | Report Abuse

haha julian, good for our diet too...

Posted by julian1981 > 2015-09-17 22:34 | Report Abuse

Charles & Cyborg - remember to pray before you go to bed. the greatest things is we share our suffering and happiness together whether is loss / gain...no matter how much we loss, always be positive - the $$ will return back to our pocket..is only the matter of time!

Posted by bearsong > 2015-09-17 22:35 | Report Abuse

When overall condition look disadvantages, there will be a big surprise later...

Posted by Charles > 2015-09-17 22:37 | Report Abuse

no matter how, please don't get disappointed, my friend
$$ will come back one day

Posted by Cyborg > 2015-09-17 22:37 | Report Abuse

julian thanks for ur support, really appreciated it... i almost forget market always there...

Posted by julian1981 > 2015-09-17 22:44 | Report Abuse

that's right..very good to have all of you..good night!

Posted by Cyborg > 2015-09-17 22:47 | Report Abuse

nite julian..

Posted by bearsong > 2015-09-17 22:51 | Report Abuse

Banker and Player game... Who will win?

1st Card to Player 9
1st Card to Banker Picture

2nd card to Player 9... Excellent double 9 = 8 very very advantage
2nd card to Banker... guess what? ........ Winner always Banker, this is phenomenon of game.

Posted by alphajack > 2015-09-17 22:53 | Report Abuse

lol true..I work for an IB..and I am always better than the normal investor.

Most experienced traders in banks are anyways. No point playing something you are not good at. We make our living from this, you all should stick to investing stocks instead..you will never be able to beat professionals.

Everyone knows HK will see below 20c very soon. Good luck.

Posted by Charles > 2015-09-17 23:32 | Report Abuse

gonna cry myself to sleep tonight.
AJ, any good stock to recommend?

Posted by alphajack > 2015-09-17 23:46 | Report Abuse

stock - Digi for now lo..and other blue chips..small caps slow now..

Warrants - HSI-CP (confirm huat)

Posted by Alvin Lin Wei Yang > 2015-09-18 00:05 | Report Abuse

My 2 cents, U.S. will hike interest by 5-10 bps. It's time to tell the world they already walk out from dark (sub prime)

Posted by zamsaham > 2015-09-18 01:23 | Report Abuse

I hantam 250,000 on HK averaging at 0.255

Posted by tan1983 > 2015-09-18 01:31 | Report Abuse

Then samsaham you will cry tomorrow hahahahahahahahh

Posted by yeohhh > 2015-09-18 02:14 | Report Abuse

fed said no hike !

Posted by stocktrader3 > 2015-09-18 02:19 | Report Abuse

die lor

Posted by stocktrader3 > 2015-09-18 02:20 | Report Abuse

game over

Posted by stocktrader3 > 2015-09-18 02:20 | Report Abuse

ko punch

Posted by 8wpwtmt8 > 2015-09-18 02:23 | Report Abuse

Federal is not raising interest rates yet but Dow Jones zig-zag now between positive and negative showing weakness in the US and the world economy. Don't know to buy call or put warrants tomorrow or just sideline.

Posted by Fund_Manager > 2015-09-18 03:10 | Report Abuse

Yellen explains no rate hike due to global uncertainty and slowdown in China. Emerging markets are not doing well. So do you think Malaysia's economy now is any better than China? We are going to short the fkli when the market opens. Join me to short the fkli. Good opportunity in the futures market! :)

Posted by Ong Lie Chin > 2015-09-18 05:20 | Report Abuse

It over...fm...gamble loss..prepare to cut loss....dun pretend to be big shot there...you are just small fish I know...you re GAME OVER!!!!!!!! H today will drop helln you will suffer...pity your naive followers all go to holland with you.....

Posted by micky92 > 2015-09-18 05:32 | Report Abuse

Don't think game over...volatility remains which is good for either put or call warrants.djia close more than 200 pts in last hr from day high reflecting investors still jitters with the news.Back to klci i presume many will take profits after recent rally due to coming weekend.in fact i am considering to add more put warrants.cheers

Posted by misterzikk > 2015-09-18 06:25 | Report Abuse

yeekarwai88 I owe you milo ice

Posted by tomjohor > 2015-09-18 07:07 | Report Abuse

The following are selected highlights of the press conference of Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen after the central bank’s decision not to increase interest rates.

On whether the Fed could hike next month: “So as I’ve said before, every meeting is a live meeting where the committee can make a decision to move to change our target for the federal funds rate. That certainly includes October. As you know and I’ve stressed previously, were we to decide to do that, we would call a press briefing and you’ve participated in an exercise to make sure that you would know how to participate in that press briefing, should it happen.”

On what it would take for the Fed to hike: “To be clear, our decision will not hinge on any particular data release. Or on day-to-day movements in financial markets. Instead, the decision will depend on a wide range of economic and financial indicators. And our assessment of their cumulative implications for actual and expected progress towards our objectives.”


On why inflation is running under its 2% target: ”An important reason for that is that declines in import prices reflecting the appreciation of the dollar and declines in energy prices [that] are holding down inflation well below our target and well below core inflation. We expect those effects to be transitory and with well anchored inflation expectations we expect inflation to move back to 2%. Now in the intermeeting period, we have seen some further appreciation of the dollar and some further downward pressure on energy prices. And that creates a bit of further drag on inflation that I would view as transitory, as very likely to be transitory. So I continue and the committee continues to expect that inflation will move back to 2%. So this should be a small thing and in the meantime the labor market has continued to improve.”

On why markets have been volatile: “I think developments that we saw in financial markets in August in part reflected concerns that there was downside risk to Chinese economic performance and perhaps concerns about the gaps where policymakers were addressing those concerns, in addition we saw a very substantial downward pressure on oil prices in commodity markets. And those developments have had a significant impact on many emerging market economies that are important producers of commodities as well as more advanced countries including Canada which is an important trading partner of ours that’s been negatively affected by declining commodity prices, declining energy prices.”

On whether the Fed considered negative interest rates, as one participant called for: “So let me be clear that negative interest rates was not something that we considered very seriously at all today. It was not one of our main policy options.”

On whether the Fed has furthered income inequality with low interest rates: “The main thing that an accommodative monetary policy does is put people back to work. Since income inequality is surely exacerbated by having a high unemployment and a weak job market, that has the most profound negative effects on the most vulnerable individual. To me, putting people back to work and seeing a strengthening of the labor market that has a disproportionately favorable effect on vulnerable portions of our population, that’s not something that increases income inequality.”

Posted by bfg9000 > 2015-09-18 07:08 | Report Abuse

Volatility is down with VIX indicator down 1% to 21%. Fluffy concept but there is an index for it


Posted by micky92 > Sep 18, 2015 05:32 AM | Report Abuse

Don't think game over...volatility remains which is good for either put or call warrants.djia close more than 200 pts in last hr from day high reflecting investors still jitters with the news.Back to klci i presume many will take profits after recent rally due to coming weekend.in fact i am considering to add more put warrants.cheers

Posted by tomjohor > 2015-09-18 07:13 | Report Abuse

今日 06:00 國際財經
耶倫:10月可能加息
聯邦儲備局主席耶倫重申，每次議息會也可能加息，因此10月也有可能加息，而當局不會看重單一經濟數據，或是金融市場每日變化。

聯儲局較早時公布，維持基準利率不變。有關決定是在9對1的情況下作出。

耶倫在議息會後向記者指出，美元滙價上升與能源價格回落，是導致進口商品價格下跌的主要因素，令到通脹仍然低於2%指標。她指出，美元滙價可能短期內續升，而能源價格也有下行壓力，令到通脹趨勢仍然是受壓的，但相關因素只是短暫性的。

她相信，有關因素在下次會議前，仍可能對通脹有壓力，但委員會仍然相信，長期通脹會朝著2%指標進發。

她承認，8月出現的金融市場動盪引發關注，中國經濟下行風險，以及有關當局應對事件的做法可能有落差，也是導致問題備受關注的因素之一。此外，商品價格下跌，影響部分新興市場的經濟情況，同樣令人關注。

Posted by goreng_kaki > 2015-09-18 07:43 | Report Abuse

interest rates unchanged but forecasts hike this year

Everybody come here see fund manager lose til hk, hg,hm till laosai ah.........


Huat ah......laosai ah......

Posted by Superb99 > 2015-09-18 07:55 | Report Abuse

Guys, just don't do panic selling later, interest rate hike is just one of the worries, from yesterday volume, I could see people are waiting for your warrants at lower level as they foresee something negative other than interest hike. Most of the people foresee no interest rate hike before the official announcement but why they still queuing? For klci, no matter there is interest hike or not, it will still up in short term because njb is burning our money. If both china and US are in trouble, I think other markets will have problems too. If u look at DJ, it was closed in red. Think twice before you throw it to buaya.

Posted by Superb99 > 2015-09-18 07:57 | Report Abuse

Analyse the market yourselves, don't listen to anyone as it is your hard earned money. All the best.

Posted by goreng_kaki > 2015-09-18 07:59 | Report Abuse

Run before too late, i can foreseen this laosai hk will reach 10sen

Posted by NoMoney > 2015-09-18 08:03 | Report Abuse

Maybe minibull is coming

Posted by goody99 > 2015-09-18 08:25 | Report Abuse

Just feel like the index will probably pull back after advancing 100 points in this mini bull run

Posted by NoMoney > 2015-09-18 08:28 | Report Abuse

Then you need to ask big boss liao

Posted by Lim Elson > 2015-09-18 08:42 | Report Abuse

oh no... pity for the H holder...

GBU... hope big player take profit today... may be it might help u to clear the H too..

Posted by Lim Elson > 2015-09-18 08:43 | Report Abuse

nikkei drop 333.48..

Posted by mmk79 > 2015-09-18 08:47 | Report Abuse

What is the rationale for no rate hike??

Guys, use your brain to think logically. Does it mean no rate hike, then all the people happy?? Bull is coming??

US interest has always been near zero rate for a decade. Why they want to keep it so low??

US Federal Reserved always wanted to have rate hike but they foresee the whole world market is doing badly and more so, worst is yet to come. So, even though their US economical data released recently indicated low inflation and low unemployment rate, they still dare not to have rate hike because they know whole world market especially China gonna to face some serious economic slowdown and that would affect the whole world market.

Posted by zerocool7199 > 2015-09-18 08:48 | Report Abuse

Why dj still down even they know no interest hike?and whats the reason they delay the hike?its simple,because whole market is still in bad shape.we malaysia included.why najib suddenly pump 20b into our stock?think twice...happy trading