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250 comment(s). Last comment by Bilis Bilis 2016-04-04 18:25

NIBIRU_T

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Posted by NIBIRU_T > 2016-01-26 14:17 | Report Abuse

bear released again...

NIBIRU_T

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Posted by NIBIRU_T > 2016-01-26 14:18 | Report Abuse

CSCI slid 3.85% now. hopeless...

NIBIRU_T

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Posted by NIBIRU_T > 2016-01-26 14:37 | Report Abuse

CSCI SLID 5%, C22 habis cerita...

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-26 14:39 | Report Abuse

If KLCI can tahan today, tomorrow green day for Asian indexes

Posted by screwdriver > 2016-01-26 14:57 | Report Abuse

Notice how are they refilling buyers @0.055, whoever sold @0.055 today will regret in the future.

cashflow

3,642 posts

Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-26 15:01 | Report Abuse

Tomorrow Shanghai will correct, KLCI did not dive as bad as I thought. Jibby power and AG fake announcement kept market tuned.

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-26 15:02 | Report Abuse

Join, boat still got seats!

NIBIRU_T

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Posted by NIBIRU_T > 2016-01-26 15:05 | Report Abuse

shanghai composite index may dive -> target 2200

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-26 15:13 | Report Abuse

4 more points to touch exercise level

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-26 15:22 | Report Abuse

1 day chart, KLCI uptrend. Maybank consensus 1632 support

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-26 15:32 | Report Abuse

There is indication the dollar may swing lower after Fed news, following some of the trends in past, let's see how the Fed will manipulate market

NIBIRU_T

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Posted by NIBIRU_T > 2016-01-26 15:36 | Report Abuse

fed will maintain interest rates as today...

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-26 15:36 | Report Abuse

go go, 3 more points to exercise

NIBIRU_T

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Posted by NIBIRU_T > 2016-01-26 15:49 | Report Abuse

reference to the movements of C22, even if achieve exercise level also no different...

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-26 15:58 | Report Abuse

A lot of retailers entered yesterday and some quitting due to thin trading.

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-26 16:01 | Report Abuse

It makes difference when the warrant stays above premium because the intrinsic value is a lot more

NIBIRU_T

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Posted by NIBIRU_T > 2016-01-26 16:05 | Report Abuse

prices already entered to 0.050 now...

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-26 16:10 | Report Abuse

yes, looks like many trying to enter at this level. Let's see if the ticket available or sold out.

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-26 16:52 | Report Abuse

Price keep sliding despite improvement in KLCI index

Posted by screwdriver > 2016-01-26 19:18 | Report Abuse

screwdriver Notice how are they refilling buyers @0.055, whoever sold @0.055 today will regret in the future.
26/01/2016 14:57

Mark my words.

NIBIRU_T

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Posted by NIBIRU_T > 2016-01-26 19:19 | Report Abuse

if kuwait cut oil production but saudi arabia & iran refuse to cut also dont makes any difference to global crude oil prices.

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-26 21:35 | Report Abuse

Saudi previously announced that if other country cuts production, it will mutually join the effort. Kuwait's move is a signal that OPEC will eventually surrender.

Posted by screwdriver > 2016-01-26 22:08 | Report Abuse

The market was very gracious today, to allow an second escape for put holders.
Those who chased put warrants today must be clouded by greed, and have lost their mind.

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-26 22:11 | Report Abuse

Ppls buy put as protection against big unexpected fall in index. U buy this silly call for wat? If mkt wants to go up. U should buy stocks.

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-26 22:13 | Report Abuse

I last checked this silly call is wirth zero cent. Index need to up 40 pts for it to worth 5c.

Posted by screwdriver > 2016-01-26 22:14 | Report Abuse

gray, you go to the put and call warrant threads and see, how many of them really buy for hedging purpose, all I can see is punting. I'm punting as well.

Posted by screwdriver > 2016-01-26 22:16 | Report Abuse

gray, you buy a warrant in anticipation of future market movement, not based on it's current value. All I can see is, long the market make much more sense at the moment.

cwingz

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Posted by cwingz > 2016-01-26 22:18 | Report Abuse

Screwdriver then don't call put holders "clouded by greed and have lost their mind". You are in the exact same situation. If they are greedy and lost their mind so do you. Both anticipating future market movement.

Posted by screwdriver > 2016-01-26 22:19 | Report Abuse

This thread is still considered as relatively quite at the moment.
gray, revisit this thread in Mac/April, you will see this thread full of punters.

Mark my words

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-26 22:20 | Report Abuse

He lost money in this stupid call n see put ppl all green.

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-26 22:21 | Report Abuse

I dono mar.aprl
I dono even tomorow. I must respect your forsight or time travelling power.

cwingz

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Posted by cwingz > 2016-01-26 22:24 | Report Abuse

Don't quarrel over small issue might as well focus your energy into finding a good stock and a good price to enter.

Posted by screwdriver > 2016-01-26 22:27 | Report Abuse

I see more risk than upside in puts, that's why I will not touch put at this moment.

I see more upside than risk in call at the moment, that's why I'm recommending call.

That's my honest opinion, to believe or not it's up to you.

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-26 22:28 | Report Abuse

fair enough, but dont call ppls crazy or cloud by greed just bcos you r on the opposite side.

as of now, you have been proven wrong. u should be humble than accuse others of making opposite decision than yours.

gray

1,158 posts

Posted by gray > 2016-01-26 22:30 | Report Abuse

the fact is put go up despite all your opinion and call go down despite today mkt up.

Posted by screwdriver > 2016-01-26 22:35 | Report Abuse

I don't see that as a valid point to prove my judgement as a wrong one.

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-26 22:37 | Report Abuse

no one says ur judgement wrong, but your timing wrong.

Posted by screwdriver > 2016-01-26 22:40 | Report Abuse

Okay, we may be viewing this based on different time horizon, I'm definitely forward looking.

Anyway, welcome to this thread. Hopefully, any discussion/argument/etc in this thread will generate sufficient interest in the community towards -c22.

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-26 22:44 | Report Abuse

i think ppls r generally bearish and few would want to trade index call warrant.

since the demand is weak, its therefore given small premium.

Posted by VeryGray > 2016-01-26 22:45 | Report Abuse

Bear on loose!!!!

Posted by screwdriver > 2016-01-26 22:47 | Report Abuse

Bear trap was just set today.

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-26 22:49 | Report Abuse

the HK Nikkei heavy selling cannot be fake. if u have heard soros is shorting the whole of asia.

Posted by screwdriver > 2016-01-26 22:58 | Report Abuse

Except for China, all the heavy selling didn't break the recent low created.

Soros can be holding a long term view, this still does not rule out the possibility of a market rally in the middle term.

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-26 22:59 | Report Abuse

precisely thats soros target. china.

his logic is, once he bring down china. the rest will melt by itself.

StingRay

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Posted by StingRay > 2016-01-26 23:06 | Report Abuse

He tried before and loss big time. What makes you think he will succeed this time? Hahaha.

Posted by Lollipot Anison > 2016-01-26 23:06 | Report Abuse

future is much better than option - put/call which the price are manipulated by market maker.

Posted by zbaikitree2 > 2016-01-26 23:19 | Report Abuse

true

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2016-01-26 23:25 | Report Abuse

The market has signaled crash this month after heavy stock sale, but it has not reached bottomed and all I can see there is correction for bargain hunters. With Fed increasing rates throughout this year, an imminent crash is possible but not in Q1, my thoughts in Q3, there is still a lot more to digest on global direction. I see KLCI technical rebound after hitting RSI below 25, so its a good chance to bet on call, and with aggressive buy, index could hover above 1650 for while until stocks surrender on their Q1 performance.

popcorn

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Posted by popcorn > 2016-01-27 00:16 | Report Abuse

This week strategy is sell call gradually to take profit then collect cheap put~

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