I got no AA but AAX is my largest position at around 25 sec.
I bot and sold AAX at around 20 sen previously , held for 4 months from August to Dec.
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paperplane2016 Desa, see airasia? Since u got few calls and airasia major, congrats.
Now, look at MMC now by Che Khalid.
Read rhb rpt

I no energy to read....

but I love this raider guy.

Don't have anyone have a monopoly on such a yin yang topic as the stockmarket....in the stockmarket, where there is yin, there will be yang just around the corner.

you should manage risk by the size of the purchase...not by making beta become smaller.

FD rates, anyone can do


we are here to lose every thing or make 100%.

intention of CS and Pacific is pure speculation.

but if resolution is defeated they will not be getting their money back so fast.

which could mean they are genuine investors. and vote YES.

sonapetroleun


do dissenting shareholders gets the accrued interest income as well? or just 45sen?

sad...two scenarios.

dissenting but resolution approved...should get back money very fast.

but if resolution defeated,,,we have to wait until 7/2016 then liquidation process starts.

if CS and Pacific who together controls 20% votes NO.....the resolution sure to be defeated.

its 29/7/2016....not 2017.

but begs the question why Pacific Alliance and Credit Suize buying so aggressively in recent weeks?

Do they buy because it is cheap and vote Yes or to vote No?

4 months to July and then 6 months to a year for the liquidators to work....

the only logical explanation is they will vote Yes.

Air Asia went from 90sen to $ 1.50 last year. Aug/ Sept
I was stuck in AAX at 20 sen the whole time.

Stock Name

Last Price
Change
Shares
Market Value
%
Average Cost
Per Share
Unrealized Gain
%
Day Gain
%
CHINWEL What If Analysis MYR 1.81 0.00 9,500 17,195.00 17.10% 19,997.50 2.105 -2,802.50 -14.01% 0.00 0.00%
JTIASA What If Analysis MYR 1.35 -0.09 15,000 20,250.00 20.14% 19,950.00 1.33 +300.00 1.50% -1,350.00 -6.25%
KEINHIN What If Analysis MYR 0.97 -0.03 22,000 21,340.00 21.22% 19,516.83 0.887 +1,823.17 9.34% -660.00 -3.00%
TAANN What If Analysis MYR 5.14 -0.13 3,800 19,532.00 19.42% 19,122.28 5.032 +409.72 2.14% -494.00 -2.47%
TGUAN What If Analysis MYR 3.29 +0.13 6,300 20,727.00 20.61% 19,892.35 3.157 +834.65 4.20% +819.00 4.11%
$CASH 1,521.04 1.51%
Total 100,565.04 100.00% -1,685.00 -1.68%


up 1.5%

Margin is some thing all tycoons use to become a tycoon....and all tycoons say don't use it.

If that is not a secret of the tycoons, I don't know what is.....

A conspiracy?

Anyone with ambition to be tycoon is advised to follow KYY secrets of a tycoon, especially using margin accounts. And stock selections.

However , if you don't make it, it's your karma.....do more donations and try again.

Stock selections.......

What not to choose just as important as what to choose.

So far.....2000 posts I am a self appointed sell side analysts on Vivo, Petron, Shell, and too many to mention.

Free entertainment for me, useful for others......why not?

Stock selection.....buy Bornoil la....no down risk only up potential.

Which part you don't understand, investor?


So simple , remove the prejudices Then new insights will be so easy.

Secrets of the tycoons revealed.
Too baked it escapes the muralis and the dumber than dumb.

Any thing more than 5 minutes is considered work......


And I have not worked for more than 20 years.

Retired long long time ago.

There's no learning without thinking
Start thinking
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Already given you hints ....

If you are a bit slow, just take a bit more time to think about it.

Margin account is based on your equity.....as long the shares go up, your equity increases, bankers give up more money....it's called a virtuous feedback loop.

That is the secret of tycoons.....if you want to write an article on the secret of tycoons write about the virtuous feedback loop.

A decent result.....

Not the kind of result that attracts criticisms.

CW not bad.

Your equity in a margin account goes up when your shares go up

It is a wonderful feedback loop.....

Virtuous feedback loop

Higher it goes, more you can buy
More you have more, more the bankers give you money to buy.

How to be tycoon if cannot buy?

If margin a share that goes up.....everyday, you can buy more shares......everyday the banker give you more money to buy shares.

No margin account.....you cannot buy anymore shares.

The first guy becomes a tycoon.

The second guy makes enough to eat a little bit.

Lee....go all in please.......

$10,000,000 profit is good enough to push up to $9.

Murali, if I were you...I will jump into the river.

Does not matter it is retail or not retail.....the money you receive don't smell different.

There is always sunshine after night.

$4 $5 is fair for Petron.

Target......go all in Petron, please.

Shell at PE 2 will stop the rot for now.......


But its obvious Shell at 3 is over valued.

Perhaps the whole refinery is obsolete and to be sold as scrap metal.

And.....look at the accounts, there is a few hundred million $ of derivative assets carried in the balance sheet of the unaudited accounts....


Don't say I didn't warn you.

Future.....no idea.....

Hindsight ......everyone has perfect hindsight.

Hold or sell......

Just sell la.......

Shares is a liquid asset.

$ 4 to $5 range it is too late to sell.

You can start a margin account, up 500 % at one stage and have a margin call when you are still up 300% if you buy enough stocks right at the top.........it is just a matter of arithmetic.

Margin account is just a facility, the end result is not predetermined.

It's more than psychology.....it's a fact Shell was sold at $ 1.80 a piece.

Margin calls is not the end of the world.....one day I will produce a proper article on a portfolio using KYY as a case study......Mr Koon admitted margin call but is it end of the world? In the case of KYY , a margin call can still come when he is up 300 % for the last 12 months......you cannot understand that unless I show you how.

And the bottom line is that the performance is still better than without margin account. It can be proven conclusively......it is so counter intuitive but true.....once I show you how.

Nothing to add except a bad carpenter blames his tool.

Secrets of the tycoons
..........the secret of the tycoons is that they all have margin accounts, they all have higher risk appetite than their neighbors at one stage in their lives.

.....but they come a time when they all sought safety in a CFA and university professor designed portfolio of relative safety with all the Greek alphabets regarding risks and returns.

they have a few hundred million $ derivative assets..............they probably all went bad.
not yet provided for.

I have ideas how to do it, make it interesting, applicable, relevant but it's too much effort for a public forum.

One sentence.
People call diversification the only free lunch.
Why? What is the meaning?

The market theory says no free lunch. It's all risk and reward.

But MPT says diversification when done properly can increase the portfolio returns per unit of risk, not available to the individual stocks.

Key words.......when done properly, ......returns per unit risk.

Some may ignore you because they seek maximum returns irrespective of risk but those who seek the optimum level between risk and rewards will appreciate that.


If you are not going to cover this elementary stuffs clearly, convincingly and understood.....the investment guru is not really an investment gurus.

It helps in planning every thing with the word portfolio in it....including and especially margin accounts.

.......

I challenge Desa to write an article about Modern Portfolio Theory and how it can be used in Bursa

Contribute, don't just attack others

Good response.


I like that, Chong.

That is factual

Thick Face Black Heart.....got the book, 20 years ago, read a bit but didn't really read it through. Could still be in the shelfs.
is a black commentary on Chinese culture by another Chinese. ?
is it a Chinese culture thing or universal culture?
applicable only to Chinese culture or applicable every where?
do you need thick face black heart to succeed?

is it Tao Te Ching in reverse?

all big issues.

duit...how come your terminal got latest lots qued. ?My terminal will only show the total 3473, not the +3456

chong..part 2 is asset allocations and Portfolio Theory and Management as someone mentioned.

because firstly you seem to be confused with some basic terms, and some concepts I tried my best to explain in simple terms, you still cannot grasp.

chong...after reading all your replies, I still think you need to register yourself for a course in Finance as much as newbies to the stock market need to register to your course.

They learn Part 1 form you, you learn Part 2 from the pros.

Translation gains come from when you do consolidations of foreign operations. This is reflected as Reserves via the Comprehensive Income Account. And has no effect on reported profits.

No right way, no wrong way
Every thing is about risk and return.

You are not entitled to criticize another guy just because he trades on margin.

His risk tolerance is higher than yours.

But those who want to be future tycoons, and who doesn't?......you need to take on borrowings, learn to manage the risks.

Two kinds of skill sets
One, the stock picking skill sets. The ones followed by internet gurus and sifus , the self taught investors, those who read some books about Warren Bufett

Two, the skill sets needed in managing portfolios. The kind of stuffs universities and CFA courses spend a lot of time on.
Once you are on borrowed funds and margin accounts, once you buy more than one stock , you are in this territory.

All the Warren Bufett wannabes and copy cats just repeat what they read.......and become sifus......how about teaching the basics of portfolio theories?


Margin accounts remain very popular. You cannot be complete sifu by focusing on 1 and completely neglecting 2.


Margin account too risky is not a good answer.

Assume a portfolio of two stocks.....perfectly and negatively correlated. Why got risk one?
It will be silly not to margin this portfolio if the dividend income is higher than the interest cost. This will , then , be your perfect compounded growth, exponential growth portfolio at zero risk....why cannot margin?


Chong.....don't just criticize margin accounts, be creative.

If done well, it can be a popular course. The people wants margin accounts.....what they need are some basics of modern portfolio theories.....even Koon Ywe Yin soon attend. His portfolio is too focused and therefore too high risk for a margin account. But how do you tell a guy that unless you are equipped with all the knowledge of modern portfolio theories?


For those who are innovative and creative, there are business opportunities....but only for the creative and innovative.

if somebody can clarify that issue, I can only assume it should be a $3 share if you look at all the other big plantations.

...thanks...so you tried to understand it too....and many complains?

FGV...as I posted before, my main bone with them is Nobody understands their Land Lease Agreement....100 years projections....
I don't understand the full implications, If I cannot understand it. I can safely assume no body can understand it.