haha... CKCS = starperformer = heavekrea = holland_chai created so many IDs yet is accusing other ppl of using multiple IDs...

actually he is a super duper idiot with very minimal observation skill...
why did i say so?

If you guys read properly, you can easily distinguish among me, jackng06 & raider by the way of our writing...

whereas u can notice the same tone that holland_chai and CKCS used (example: scolded ppl b**ch). Not just this example.. both of "these 2 IDs" (same person) used the very uncommonly used word "kaput" which I caught him red handed...

example: some ppl may say "Bxtch" (I will say so).. some ppl say "B**ch"... but u can see both IDs used the same...

come on la.. u r already a loser in fundamental analysis.. and now another loser in observation...

I am the same person as Raider or Jackng06, today the lightning will strike me and I will die horribly...

what about u? dare to make such swear?

u sure dare not.. coz u r using multiple IDs.. and u r a loser cum coward.. go home and ask milk from ur mama...

LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

annual report was out late last week, no wonder the share price went up a lot...
read page 10 about the prospect and you will know why investors are buying non-stop...

icon, i agree with u... we get limited info from quarterly reports.. but at least there is some data for us to interpret, better than none.. haha.. we are not insiders.. we cannot know beyond that, right?

has he assigned u to be one of his brokers already? haha

haha.. Jaks again... help KYY to pump and dump ar PLPman?? haha

why u never doubt HEVEA falsifying their accounts? haha... pathetic.. indeed.. loser is destined to be loser...

when idiot cant win an argument with facts.. then he will create all sorts of rumours/accusations to defame or trying to bring down that particular stock...

haha.. more fake assumptions and accusations are coming up including "falsifying the accounts"...

so obvious la idiot.. try to sabotage evergreen is it, after u lost out on your reasoning to me?

btw, i do not intend to sell my GESHEN yet, haha.. wait for it to fully realize its value..

thanks for your kind advice icon, i appreciate that kind of advice actually so that we can be vigilant in our investment.. coz no one is always right...

we have to accept other views as long as they are based on valid and sound facts..

what you mentioned above is all right though..

u r a man who looks at increased profits in the coming years... didn't these figure meet ur requirements? haha

similarly, compare 2015 & 2016 forex gain:

2015 Q1-Q4 forex gain = 4.654mil
2016 Q1-Q4 forex gain = 2.960mil

again, it tells us that GESHEN earned less forex in 2016 compared to 2015.. meaning reccurent operational profit has increased too, right?

icon, u r right about that 2mil boosted profit from the "Changes in inventories of finished
goods and work-in-progress"... but if u compare it with 2015 figures...

2015 Q3: 2.244mil
2016 Q3: 2.022mil

2015 Q1-Q4: 1.128mil
2016 Q1-Q4: -1.093mil

what does this mean?

in terms of recurrent operational profits, 2016 Q1-Q4 has actually improved by 1.128+1.093mil just based on this item alone..

haha.. icon, well smack right in the face of this PLPman...

icon, perhaps u missed out one thing.. look at their Cumulative Quarter ended forex gain, which is also about RM3 mil... that means their previous quarterly results do not see much forex gain/loss...

really? then what is its intrinsic value. tell me my friend... and show me how u calculated it..

fuiyoh.. GESHEN is on tongkat ali today... haha

just bcoz u listened to others who asked u to buy?

ask urself.. do u really know why u invested in Evergreen in the first place?

btw, what i mentioned about u.. they are all real.. u r indeed that kind of person so you deserve this..

i showed u the whole picture... based on real facts and valid analysis...

unlike some manipulators, who took part of the data and exaggerate and shout on it...

since day 1, i talked with analyzed facts and points...

susu... check back ur chat history.. who started the insult with the word of "talk kosong"...

only foolish idiot who does not understand cash flow health will relate Evergreen to bankruptcy...
either he is a confirmed idiot or he is a manipulator doing this for his personal agenda.. that is too obvious...

good to see u r back, annoyed1... i am indeed "annoyed" now by these idixts.. haha

haha... susukacang is more pathetic than CKCS = starperformer... he is just waiting to get out from his stuck position, but do not have a bigger target... then why did he buy into Evergreen in the first place? just for fun? haha... the answer is.. he does not know why he bought into this share.. he has no ability to analyze, thus merely listening to others and speculate (in his situation, yes, speculate.. for us - value investing)... and when he is stuck temporarily.. he is anxious and is only looking for an exit... he does not know the value of evergreen.. so he is super pathetic.. haha

being stupid is not a sin... being stubborn and not willing to admit u r stupid and then not going to study/improve urself is indeed a sin...

haha... again, idixt is trying to tie cash flow with balance sheet... hahahahhahaha.......

go study basic accounting first...

haha.. finally idixt touches the cash flow part.. but his comments are indeed idiotic..

i mentioned about the cash flow since day 1, even before this news came out:

http://www.klsescreener.com/v2/news/view/218507

and i told them about Evergreen's capability of earning net cash generated from operations and their FCF (especially when going into 2017-18)...

i have repeated numerous times.. did they listen? or do they even understand what i am talking about?

CKCS will tell jack: No.. dun look at net cash generated from operations. look at their debt and net profit... haha

jack.. u tell them these terms u expect them to understand? haha

haha.. idixt CKCS keeps asking ppl to look at balance sheet.. but he does not even mention of cash flow statements. FCF, etc stuff which he does not understand.. pathetic... indeed

jack.. frankly speaking i would not even expect a very good result in the coming quarter... they may need slightly more time for the expansion results to become significant...

ok, sherlock... sometimes i just cannot tahan u know.. idixts act like sifu...

Holland chai, i am not going to holland as i do no wish to meet idixt like u there...

really? then i will be more happy like what Jon Choivo said.. i will be able to collect more shares at much undervalued price..

susukacang.. if impatient.. just sell off ya.. no problem at all...

"kaput" is a very rarely used term.. at least, not popular..

and from the ways of talking... we can tell u r starperformer..

how many times i need to re-post? dun ask silly question anymore, ok? baby CKCS.. dun cry, go to ur mama for some milk

idixt remains idixt... when they are heavily invested in CAPEX in 2015-16, how much debt do u expect them to pare down?

But in 2017 and onwards.. here is the plan:

[you don't seem to understand it yet. in latest Q4 2016 report, Evergreen net cash flow generated from operating activities is as high as RM238.368M, whereas in 2015 Q4, it was only RM132.680M. That is a huge improvement of net cash flow from operations. in 2016, they spent a lot on CAPEX, around RM200M. But as mentioned by the top management, they expect to only spend around RM40-50M starting 2017 as most of the money had been spent for expansion. So you can expect net change in cash & cash equivalents to improve tremendously. let's be conservative and not assume any growth in the net cash from operations, keep it at RM238.368M in 2017, CAPEX reduction down to RM40-50M will already give them surplus of net cash & cash equivalent of RM238.368-RM45M = RM193.368M in 2017 (assume we neglect the small amount from cash flow from financing activities). Compared to total short+long term debts of just RM205M, they almost zero out the total debt based on just the net change of cash. don't forget they still have RM160M cash at the beginning of 2017 (carried forward from 2016)... so, even they have to pay down "all", i mean all debts, they still have enough cash to pay dividends.. but do they need to pay down all debt immediately? they do not necessarily have to do that... come on... . if dunno, pls ask politely and dun act like an expert... i feel very sorry for ppl like u... know a little bit, but act like sifu ]

haha... Starperformer = CKCS = Holland_Chai... same person trying to mislead ppl and manipulate info here...

guys.. can u all see some similarity here:

the used word of "kaput":

starperformer: Stockraider & gang still eating bananas here? No wonder what you're holding gone kaput lah!! LOL
23/03/2017 11:29

CKCS: Who talked like a sifu here and Evergreen gone kaput?! That speaks louder than words. Period. Haha!
21/04/2017 12:25

Holland_Chai: Going Holland......Kaput! Fasten ur seatbelts
21/04/2017 12:54

haha... susu has confirmed gone insane.. where is his logic now?

When I and Jack talk = share price falls..

if this is logical.. i will short all shares in Bursa to make billions of money...

but that is also why it gives us good opportunity to buy when these good shares are selling cheap.. if everyone can see it, will they still be selling cheap?

haha.. jack.. sometimes u have to understand why the current price of a fundamentally sound share is not moving much.. coz they are too many idixts in the world (some manipulated facts, some dunno how to analyze and listen to manipulators).. the former refers to CKCS, the latter of course refers to susukacang...

Jon Choivo will know.. coz i saw him in PRLEXUS forum too... yeah.. u can accuse me again.. i am stuck in PRLEXUS.. i need ppl to pull me out from PRLEXUS.. haha... that is the only thing u r good at, aren't u?

yes, i am recommending PRLEXUS.. what is the matter here?
Again, idixt like u will never know why i had chosen PRLEXUS as well...