Nic, the V is very unlikely to be ViS. =D

I think it’s VS. It’s oversold. The earnings dropped a lot tho.

eh, scroll all the way back and show me where I ask people buy at 70sen? If u wanna call me a liar u better substantiate that too. Scroll back and quote me. Date and time.

If u can’t find a any post on that, means u not only liar but a low class liar. Create lies from ur fantasy land.

Now, vis is 50 sen and not 36sen, means u lie every day? When it reach back 60sen means u r bigger liar? No wonder nobody likes u.

For obvious reason. Deluded spineless lying bitch.

U don’t worth shit. U nvr bring any new info or anything useful here. Except sore losses elsewhere. Ini mmg useless punya.

I’m sorry pang72. u don’t worth my time. I gave u chance to redeem urself. But now, it’s gone. U don’t deserve my time.

Not that I don't wanna believe, but it is difficult to believe a liar. U see, I don't call people's bomoh.
I only call those from lalaland liar.

Which part did I lie about pussy pang? my estimate of record revenue & profit is accurate. My handsome profit post in the drive. Mana yours pussy pang? Where is the lie? Everytime picked on. He runs and hide behind his lalaland.

Where did I lie? But u lied about ur earnings in presbhd. I'm waiting to be proved wrong. Until u provide evidence of ur earnings, the name lying pussy pang fits ur perfectly.

Shut up and go back where ever u come from. Thank you.

Gimme time period. If u made money, better stay far far. Come back 5-7 years later.

I don’t hv crystal ball if U want 5% ciaoz in week recommendation. I invest in prospect.

Hibiscus could be a good bet. Holding about 170 English lots combined.

Nic, not much comment on krono. Trading at PE 16. No much increase in revenue but improved margin. So, it’s upto u to decide if the current price is worth its prospect.

I don’t understand it’s business. How come the margin so bad One? Doing about 10%. Is it sensitive to electricity tariff. Need to do homework first before able to give fair review on krono.

Lying is normal too. But shouldn’t be encouraged. I called that idiot bluff on presbhd. He failed to substantiate till now.

Actually, counters from few ringgit down to 15sen is a big deal. Two things to monitor closely. How debts weigh on price. And price recovery even after debt restructuring.

I’m always sceptical in business that take up huge loan, apparently big expansion plan. I prefer counter that know how to do their business and keep their margin. KIV Yoong Ann.

About DUFU, few large fund exited at large volume. Now, it’s retailers game. Retailer don’t usually move the price much. Hv to wait for next catalyst.

It’s okay Pang and Nic. It’s not everyday sunday. As long got buy, then got chance to make money. Ok? Don’t be stupid everyday TP TP and not buy anything. DUFU is a good counter, can hold. Just momentary Macros causing volatility. No point to punt up or down.

See ppl thank me Pang! TWICE! Jealous die u dy or not? Only a stupid everyday come TP TP but nvr buy anything. Bodoh.

How DUFU? burned ar? It’s easier for VIS to go from 40 to 50sen than DUFU from RM2-RM2.5. The way u punt there tells me u stucked at RM2.5. But, it’s OK pang, that’s also a very good counter. I won’t go simply go TP RM1.50 or Rm0.50.

What’s the point? I’m not a bodoh like you. I hope u will learn something.

Better sell, if u don’t and it comes down...pang gonna laugh at you. Better sell now so that u can laugh at him. If he wants evidence u can show him also.

Nic, u sold?

Guys, u know who is the stupid. From one thread to another, everyone call him a bodoh. I don’t hv to come explain myself to a stupid. It’s festive season, I hv party to enjoy and life to live. I suggest him do the same.

As for the contract; I’m not too sure about it.

Anyway, there are chinese/us product that’s sold directly via Malaysian company to evade tariff. I’m not too sure if ViS is involved. Those I know for sure already Trading at PE higher than my comfort.

Wall Street is also closely following reports that Trump has privately discussed the possibility of firing Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell.

This is funny. That guy is firing everybody.

Ok ok. I die I die k? U r the hero!

Now bring ur circus elsewhere.

My bad. Here comes the monkey and his show.

Nola pang, dowan join ur monkey show does mean I’m hiding some where.

Leslie, How high did u buy and burned ya?

Everyday punt one. Go holiday. Go holiday.

*he will keep bragging about his fantasy profit last week. Which I sometimes calls his bluff and the monkey show begins

If next QR report more than 6 mil revenue; then VIS deserves minimum of PE 15.

Then hopefully the additional income from from maintenance contract instead of solely niche equipment manufacturer. Bcos when they started selling; it was 2017. Hopefully it’s not 5 years warranty. Likely 3 years. Margin will drop within these 2 years before booming after 3rd year. 2020. About the time the warranty expires. Profit margin should improve to 25-33%. The current asset alone by that time will be about 75mil. Market cap cant be 75 mil.

When VIS declares dividend policy, the guy who did private placement even at 81sen cost will laugh to the bank.

Now until then, ppl like pang will come harass me asking bila TP 1. I will say with more confidence, after 2020 and if bubble didn’t burst and recession didn’t takes place. He will

That’s why i Malas wanna share anything.

Teach u a technique. Inventories current quarter - (Inventories last quarter + changes in inventories current quarter will be almost the equivalent of changes in inventories for last quarter.

So, comparison between Q4,18 and Q4,17, chances is about 1.2-1.7 mi. If you notice, that's within range of changes of inventories Q4, 18. What does that mean?

Experience investor will immediately. What can you tell?

Huat just buy in ar?

Very biased analysis. But it's good for short term punting.

VIS true potential will materialise in 2-3 years time. It's not for everyone. But, around the market. Nothing nice to buy also. Alot of discount. But so is the sector.

This is the reason why I think market is very inefficient. I think only less than 0.1% truly know a business inside out and buy and fair value. 10% buys at certain acceptable premium and the rest 90% just buy out of ignorance. That's coherent to my dad's all time advise. "Only 1 out of 10 investors make money in the market".

Changes in inventories. Compare it with Q4, 17. And keep whatever inference u made to yourself.

Too superficial Nicholas. U kept reading hindsight. Need to look for numbers that tell givens hint bout future

Got one more point that market hypersensitive about....dig further...it’s in cash flow statement

The north Asia story was highlighted a year ago. It seems VIS is gaining traction there.

Product that VIS carries is interesting. If it meets markets it will grow exponentially.

Go through the whole 3 financial statement. Compare latest Q4,18, Q3,18 and Q4,17.

Most only notice the increased profit. What they didn’t notice is....a lot more...

Jingle bell, jingle bell...jingle all the way!

Jingle bell jingle bell...jingle all the way...

Like it? Like it?

Don’t bother... just sing along!

u guys still didn’t noticed. Perhaps, intentionally.

See how’s the sentiment after new year.

A lot of analyst suggested cost averaging. I will say stay sideline.

last Oct correction...got alot of counters bcomes value buy...
Dunno which one to pick.

Anyway, i hv to apologise to PrimeInvestor. He is right about VIS dropping to single digit PE about QR.

So, can’t really tell wats the average. That’s on top of I held quite abit before bonus issue.

The average price in system doesn’t factor in the free shares I get.

Like that I mar hv one decimal place more in English lot?

My chinese lot got about 300, and warrant another 200. But I keep buying whenever capital frees up.

Alang2 make it 1000lot. Average down to 50sen. Then go up to Rm1. Huat arrrr.

Wait. Ur 1 lot is how many shares ar? One decimal place makes a lot of difference.

Still lose money la. I’m not a low life that pretends He buys low everytime. These doesn’t make him a winner. It only makes him a really sore loser.

Bought a big bunch at 32 last time. Bought a bunch and 69, 59, 54 and 44 later. Queue for 38, didn’t get it. Anyway, most of the time I say I buy, I really buy.

Why wanna know my average?

If new Q reports 800k profit. That’s translates to 3 triple digit growth. As Q1,18 report 400k profit nia. Lol!

Ermmm...I’m not sure how many noticed.

I think Prime did. And taking same position as I do.

Exceeded my expectation...my estimates too conservative.

Cumulative profit for the year exceeded 7mil. Next QR report should report triple digit YoY growth

Hopefully it’s not...

When u lose money in genting, u will say better lose in Armada.

Hindsight 20/20...

Well, life goes on. Keep walking. ~ Johnnie Walker.

P.S. I'm a Macallan dude.

his funder doesn't think so good about Armada and parked his 40mil else where.

Actually, InvestorKing pun pun pun, make 2 sen ciaoz already. Leslie is here because Leslie haven't made his 2sen. If Leslie made the 2sen, he also ciaoz already.

@khairul, yg bukan2 yg diminta sudah kembali. =D

Sincere_Analyst, which one is not rubbish counter?

P.S. Suspected pang72 dupe.

Who are these guy...I wonder...

How do anyone quantify market's ignorance and emotion? e.g. Fair Value after DCF should be RM1.00. Market stupid optimist, RM1.50. Market stupid pessimist, RM0.50. Market stupid and super pessimist, RM0.25.

the best u can do is aim for resilient business and will be in the green regardless of economic climate. The price depends on market stupid optimist or stupid pessimist. If market isn't stupid, they should strictly for fair value based on DCF.

Rowie, honesty can't prevail in a zero sum game. Period.

I have 227K in mothershare and 355k in warrant. Only reason I buy is really blood on the street.

If it drop to 10sen, I will buy more and make it 750K shares. The reason will be because more blood on the street.

There are few things that u can bet on and win most of the time. Human's greed, their desire to survive, and superficial needs. Which the whole economy founded upon that.

Another jab to pearlwhite, why do u care who Leon Harland bangs and how does it concerns you?
The rest here are invested. It makes sense for the cock song they sing. But yours isn't clear. I hv a list of 100 counters I studied. Alot of them isn't gonna make it. But you don't see me going there and make ACCUSATION that the CFO slept with who or books they cook. You have made alot of those here. Why?

P.S. Hibiscus cooked the book. But for good reason.

Vincent. That's a poor assumption. If you assume market knows everything. Then where is the opportunity? No one buys high and no one sells low. Everyone trade at it's fair value.

The market will grind to standstill. So, the opportunity lies at market being emotional and ignorant.

P.S. I'm not saying i know all. I could be both ignorant one who bought high and low. I bought both at 34sen and also 69sen. What i'm saying is, the market filled with people like myself. Both ignorant and emotional. There is no explanation for a selldown.

Market really no common sense one. Comparing VIS with JFTech...VIS has higher revenue, better margin, strong QoQ n YoY Growth and higher NTA trading at 75Mil market cap. JFTech with poorer revenue, poorer everything. Trading at 175mil market cap.

Apa logic? Answer is, market has no logic. They buy and sell sesuka hati. The logic is the more u try to say VIS is good. Market become skeptical and sell. This is called backfire effect. When u try to say something is good, the normal stupid human response is "Really, or not?". You show them data, they say u try to hard sell to con them.

I think I better join Pang everyday TP20 sen better. Maybe the market may think it's not that bad and start to buy. =D

Think logically, a good way to exit is to slowly sell bits by bits at high. Suddenly, dumped 5-10mil shares a day is gonna cause a selldown. His 5-10mil shares won't fetch good price. But it's useful to buy and sell 5-10mil shares himself and collect another 5-10 mil in between.

Now, I wonder with additional shares he has, is he gonna go another round of selldown?
Two possibility now given low market activity. 1) he has collected enough and waiting for a good time to push it back up and sell. 2) he is short of ammo to create a selldown.

I agree with prime, someone has been beating the price up. Unfounded selldown at many level.

well, if u believe in VIS prospect. buy and keep. You won't know when is this fella gonna push it back up. Reason, there is no point left hand pass right hand in selldown to collect more and not push it back up later.