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2019-05-12 17:54 | Report Abuse
One of the main theory in Economics is the Supply and Demand . The price of goods will adjust accordingly . When the Supply is higher than the demand , then the price will goes down . When the demand is higher than the Supply , then the price will goes up .
Similarly when the company's performance becomes better and with better future prospects , the demand will increase and the price will goes up . During a short period of time , May be one month or three months or even longer like 6 months , the shares price will fluctuate up and down , sometimes higher than its fair value or sometimes lower than its fair value , it may be due to manipulation or other reasons which we don't know . But ultimately , the shares price will reflect a more relatively true and fair value .
Some retail buyers would like to say we only invest in blue chips . Some may think blue chip is definitely good even if the share price is at PE 50 or even higher . Some may even buy a blue chip counter with PE of 60 or 70 times with a dividend yield of less than 2 % and put all his money in one shot . A PE of 50 times means you need 50 years to recover back your cost of investment ( assuming the company's EBITA is constant every year for the next 50 years) . A dividend yield of 2 % means you receive RM 200 for a counter with share price of RM 10.00 .
So if we want invest in blue chips , we may have to buy at different times and different prices and we need to keep track of the company's performance .
If a blue chip counter with a PE of 5 at RM 5.00 , its latest quarterly results jumped 4 times and the price sharp jumped 4 times to RM 20.00 within one or few months , should we jump in to buy ? Can we determine that the company can maintain its EBITA in the future . Example like HENGYUAN , HARTA , PMETAL , PETRONM and others ?
2019-05-12 16:08 | Report Abuse
Retail buyers always face a lot of problems when they want to make shares investment decisions .
Which counter to buy ? What price to enter ? Average down the price or cut lost ?
Should I take profit now , or add more ? Diversification ? Invest in one or two counters , or invest in 10 counters or more ?
Should buy blue chips or penny stocks ? Buy a counter with high PE of 40 or 50 times with high growth rate ? Buy counters with high NTA , or high dividends pay out or high dividends yields ?
And many other questions or problems .
Some investors prefer blue chips , some prefer penny stocks . Some prefer to chase high and sell higher . Some prefer to buy when the share price sharp drop and hope for rebound .
WARREN BUFFET says the first factor to consider before you invest is make sure you don't suffer losses and the second factor is you must remember the first factor . He also explain what is the meaning of INVESTMENT . He says Investment is to buy a counter at a price below its fair value or the better is buy at half price of its fair value . Don't buy a counter which you don't understand . You must do your homework , you must be patient and you must be brave when other people are affraid . A big portion of his funds invest in few counters only .
As a retail buyer , how to invest in shares or how to trade shares ??? Should we dump all our funds to buy one counter only or should we diversify our investment ? Should we borrow money to buy or only use a portion of our funds to buy or invest ? Should we buy blue chips or good fundamental counters ? Should we buy only penny stocks ?
2019-05-10 23:11 | Report Abuse
You are welcomed , just a share of my view .
2019-05-10 22:10 | Report Abuse
Sometimes we may not be able to buy at the target price we wanted . If all all retail buyers do not buy at 0.20 , the sharks won't be so generous to sell to us at 0.15 . The more the retail buyers buy , the lower the sharks will press the price down but to some extend they are reluctant or not able to press down further .
What retail buyers can do is buy 10000 shares @ 0.20 , and wait for some time , May be a week or two weeks or a month , it depends .
If no fundamental changes , and the price drop to 0.175 then we can average and buy 20000 shares @ 0.17 - 0.175 .
If no fundamental changes and the price drop to 0.15 , then we may have to buy 30000 @ 0.15 .
We can average down the price subject to 1) the company won't go bankrupt . 2) the company is too big to fall .
3) the prospects of the company will be better in the next one or two years .
2019-05-10 21:49 | Report Abuse
Should be buy at 0.20 , sell at 0.40 at anytime within two years , can make 50 % return in a year .
2019-05-10 21:46 | Report Abuse
Buy at 0.15 , sell at 0.30 at anytime within a year , make 100% return in a year . If sell at 0.30 in two years then make 50 % a year better than fixed deposits around 4 % per annum .
Buy at 0.20 , sell at 0.30 at anytime within a year , can make 50 % return in a year . Buy at 0.20 , sell at 0.40 at anytime within a year , make 100 % return . Buy at 0.20 , sell at 0.40 at anytime within a year , can make 50% return in a year .
2019-05-10 21:34 | Report Abuse
Armada and SAPNRG are leaders in oil and gas industry .
2019-05-10 21:23 | Report Abuse
Sometimes in March 2014 , when KNM was traded around 0.47 - 49 , analysts gave a target price of 0.41 and recommended to sell KNM . Instead of drop to 0.41 , KNM's share price was
Pushed up above 1.10 within 4 months .
There are many similar cases .
2019-05-10 21:07 | Report Abuse
If the price of crude oil can sustain above USD 70 or even higher than USD 80 for more than a year , I believe we should be able to enjoy our life .
2019-05-10 21:04 | Report Abuse
How fast and how high the shares price will go mainly depend on the performance of the company . The performance of the company mainly depend on the management of the company and the price of crude oil .
2019-05-10 21:00 | Report Abuse
Even Sumatex is hovering around 0.01- 0.015 , THHEAVY hovering around 0.05 - 0.06 , SEACERA from more than 1.0 dropped to around 0.155 and rebounded to above 0.35 , later dropped below 0.17 and rebounded above 0.35 last few days dropped to 0.24 , now hovering 0.19 - 0.20 . With financial difficulties also can jumped up and down few times because they want to distribute to ret buyers .
2019-05-10 20:42 | Report Abuse
As I mentioned before , RENONG was pushed up from 0.30 to above 3.0 from Jan 1999 to August 1999 . Later RENONG became UEMLAND in 2006 , it's shares price was pushed up from below 0.40 to around 5.0 from March 2006 to some time before July 2007 . Again UEMLAND became UEMS , from Jan 2010 to end of 2013 , it's shares price was pushed up from 0.50 to more than 3.50 . RENONG group was the aircraft carrier in KLSE during that time .
2019-05-10 20:26 | Report Abuse
InvestorKing . That is why the sharks dare not to push down the price to 5 sen or 1 sen Or else they themselves will go bankrupt
2019-05-10 20:21 | Report Abuse
Allocation of funds is very important . Funds managers always allocate different amount of funds to different groups of companies .
2019-05-10 20:16 | Report Abuse
Maybe we can recall the shares movements of few counters since December 2019 , CARIMIN from 0.24 to more than 0.90 around two months .Dayang from below 0.60 to 1.60 , IFCAM from below 0.25 to 0.49 , PENERGY from below 0.40 to more than 1.0 .
So we observed that the sharks normally accumulate when the price is at historical low range , when they accumulate the Will push and dump within a tight range so that the retail buyers will feel boring and give up . Once they have accumulated enough and the company's performance become better , they will accumulate faster and shares prices will go up faster and faster .
2019-05-10 20:00 | Report Abuse
AMLATFPUA = Anti Money Laundering, Anti Terrorism Financing and Proceeds of Unlawful Activities Act .
2019-05-10 19:56 | Report Abuse
Two main factor in shares investment are patience and do your homework .
If you have done your homework and you know the shares prices are undervalued you can accumulate and wait patiently . Ultimately if the company can perform better in the coming years , the sharks have to push up and the funds managers have to going in .
2019-05-10 19:44 | Report Abuse
The way of " GORENG " nowadays has totally been changed as compared to the years 1993 - 1997 . During that times , the settlement period was T + 7 , few millions retail buyers jumped in and jumped out . Share prices limit up few times in a week . some counters from 18.00 limit up became 23.40 and limit up again became 30.42 .
Banks had given a lot of margin accounts , authorities also more lenient , sharks simply Goreng , no AMLATFPUA , . 1998 financial crisis in Asia , many were knocked out .
Maybe we can think or look from the other angle , if all retail buyers are holding total 30 % shares of ARMADA which is around 17.62 billions , and the sharks simply push up 10 sen on Monday I.e from. 20 sen to 30 sen , and all the retail buyers sell the 17.62 billions to the sharks . Next day , Tuesday , the sharks sell back all the 17.62 billions to the retail buyers at 20 sen again , so the sharks loss 1.762 billion . Next day I.e Wednesday , the sharks push up the share price from 20 sen to 30 sen again , and all the retail buyers sell back all the 17.62billions to the sharks at 30 sen again . So th sharks loss 1.762 billion daily until the sharks go bankrupt . Later another group of sharks come in and do the same thing as did by previous group of sharks .
So all retail buyers will be very. Happy . Would it be happened in this way ???
2019-05-10 18:36 | Report Abuse
The major shareholders , fund managers , and the sharks look down the retail buyers because they know the retail buyers mostly are panicky .
All the AH LONG sometimes should consider to take control of these type of companies .
2019-05-10 18:33 | Report Abuse
If shares price dropped to 0.01 , total market capitalisation = 58.73 millions , 51 % = 29.369 millions , If 30 retail buyers each contributes 1 million , can take control the company . Or 300 retail buyers , each one contributes 100 ,000 also can control the company . Later appoint 10 members become the director and each one take 1 million pay , 3 years can recover back the cost of investment .
2019-05-10 18:24 | Report Abuse
Armada's paid up around 5.873 billions , if drop to 0.1 , total market capitalisation = 587.3 millions . If drop to 0.01 , total market capitalisation = 58.73 millions . 51 % = 29.369 millions . So if you have 30 millions , you can control the company . Would it be possible ???
Sumatec still hovering around 0.01 - 0.015 .
2019-05-09 18:49 | Report Abuse
We can notice that everyday there are more than 300 ,000 lots of buyers and sellers queuing in the market for 3 best quotes , majorities are stockists or PDT linked to the sharks because they don't have to pay brokerage whereas IDSS which mostly are retail buyers who have to pay brokerage .
IDSS take seller's price at 0.21 and at the end of the same day forced to sell to buyers at 0.205 . After few rounds or many rounds of doing the same things , the retail IDSS will suffer losses due to commissions paid and other charges and also every time loss two bids , eventually the Retail IDSS will be kicked out .
2019-05-09 16:21 | Report Abuse
As I mentioned before , IDSS is nothing great , just like you and me , a small retail buyer . Majority of the retail buyers are holding less than 50 k worth of shares . How much can they short sell ? If they don't cover back their short sell position , the broking firms will force to buy back before 4.00 pm or latest by 4.30 pm .
What is very much more powerful are stockists linked to to sharks . Stockists A to B , B to C & D , and so forth . If they have a net sell position of few millions or hundreds of millions , then they will ask the nominees of the sharks to sell the shares to them to cover back their short sell position . Thereafter , they will wait for T + 3 or more days to catch contra players .
2019-05-02 15:59 | Report Abuse
Time to accumulate more Sapnrg and Velesto .
2019-04-04 13:44 | Report Abuse
Can start to accumulate . Any minor correction is an opportunity to buy
2019-04-04 13:44 | Report Abuse
Any minor correction or pull back is an opportunity to buy .
2019-04-04 13:43 | Report Abuse
Can start to accumulate . Any minor correction is an opportunity to buy .
2019-04-04 13:42 | Report Abuse
Can start to accumulate . Any minor correction is an opportunity to buy .
2019-03-18 16:32 | Report Abuse
Congratulations to those who bought warrants @0.10. Almost 50% unrealized profit .
SAPNRG right issue was under subscribed and the underwriters had taken up . The underwriters had sold off all their Sapnrg shares and warrants recently .
The main reasons why Warrants up more than the mother shares . 1 ) very much smaller number of warrants issued As compared to mother shares , around 1 billion over 16 billions shares . 2) warrants only issued to those shareholders who subscribed the right issue of shares . It means tight controlled .
3 ) Warrants price are at premium , so retail buyers are scared to buy .
2019-03-15 10:43 | Report Abuse
For those investors who are taking about to invest 1 million shares , or 5 millions shares or even more , this is the company , not Dayang , perdana ,Carimin or Ifcam , these companies if you buy 100,000 shares, they will stop pushing for a long , long time .
2019-03-15 10:39 | Report Abuse
Two main factors to consider before you buy Sapnrg . First the world crude oil price and second the ability of the company to get contracts especially from PETRONAS .
SAPNRG with shares paid up of 15.979 billions is a huge company in Malaysia just like RENONG before . It is just like an AIRCRAFS CARRIER in Malaysia . It is too big to fail .
Even if the company is going to close shop , it will take a many years . The price will go up few times and go down few times just like RENONG shot up from below 0.30 to more than 3.0 from Jan 1999 - December 1999 . UEMLAND shot up from below 0.40 to more than 5.0 from beginning of 2006 to 2007 . Also , Uems from 0.50 to more than 3.50 from 2010 - 2013 .
2019-03-15 10:23 | Report Abuse
Congratulations to those who bought @ 0.26 - 0.265 on 31 Jan 2019 , unrealized profit 38 % . For those who bought @ 0.3 , unrealized profit 20 % .
For those who have no positions and intend to hold for 3 - 6 months can accumulate and average down .
2019-03-13 16:08 | Report Abuse
PETRONAS INCREASED its capital expenditure from 46 billions to 50 billions this year .
2019-03-13 16:02 | Report Abuse
Congratulations to those who bought SAPNRG @ 0.30-0.305 . At least 10 % profits . For those who bought around 0.26 , more than 20 % unrealized profit .
Many oil and gas counters have gone up more than 50 % compared to the lowest price , some even gone up 200 - 300 % from their lowest price . SAPNRG IS the conglomerate oil and gas company In Malaysia . As long as crude oil price can sustain above USD 60 , it's share price should go higher . If crude oil price can sustain around USD 70 - 80 for another one or two years , SAPNRG should at least doubled its share price .
2019-02-20 10:50 | Report Abuse
For those who has been trading actively in BURSA ( e.g. RM 3 M -5 M in value ) a year
for the last 5 years , he should be able to understand the tactics and the movements of the counters shares prices .
When the price is low , the price move up and down in a tight range , as the sharks don't want the contra players to make money and at the same time they are accumulating the shares . All the counters are the same . The only difference is how long they need to take to accumulate and this depend on the shares paid up of the counter
The bigger the shares paid up , it will take longer time ..
For Sapnrg with 15.979 billions shares issued , assuming 30 % of shares are in the hand of retail buyers , it means 4.7937 billions shares .
If they push up every 10 sen , they have to pay extra 479 millions . If they push up every
RM 1.00 , they have to pay extra 4.7937 billions .
So , when the price is low , the price moves in a tight range . We can take Carimin , a small capital with 233 millions paid up as an example .below 0.30 , up down up down for so long , from 5 Dec 2018 , 0.295 , to highest of 0.945 on
12 Feb 2019 , because accumulated enough and running of time .
2019-02-19 14:02 | Report Abuse
Imagine if crude oil price hovering above
USD 70 -80 for next one two years , Sapnrg may be above 1.50 , Warrant above 1.00 .
2019-02-19 13:27 | Report Abuse
As at 31 Jan 20019 , AMANAHRAYA TRUSTEE owns 4,302,719,373 shares ( 26.927% )
, as at 30 Jan 2019 , KUMPULAN WANG PERSARAAN owns 460,744,024 ( 2.876 % )
As at 28 Jan 2019 SHAHRIMAN BIN SHAMSUDDIN owns 2,648,656,175 shares
( 16.573%) .
2019-02-19 12:24 | Report Abuse
If you look at VSOLAR , NTA 0.04 -0.045 , shares paid up 386 millions , thin volume traded for last two years , suddenly it was pushed up from 0.095 on 26 Dec 2018 to 0.19 today , any good news or just because the Vsolar with the word
" SOLAR" on it and the govt is talking about SOLAR project at this moment .
2019-02-19 12:16 | Report Abuse
We are here to select counters to invest or to trade in order to make some gains . We are here not to buy the whole economic of the country . Any good news or bad news which Will affect the company's shares price performance and the company's performance , we must take into account .
2019-02-19 11:49 | Report Abuse
FGV rebounded from the record low of 0.63 on 14 Dec2018 & 17 DEC 2018 , today hit high of 1.20 . Has the company's financial difficulties been solved within 2 months ???
2019-02-19 11:44 | Report Abuse
NEAC is established again like in years 1998 -1999 when financial crisis happened in Asia especially Asean .
2019-02-19 11:36 | Report Abuse
In year 2009 , Sapnrg ( formerly known as CREST PETROLEUM) was pushed up from below 0.70 to around 3.0 . After merger with Kencanca , it was pushed up further to around 5.0 .
This company is like an aircraft carrier in the oil and gas industry in Malaysia , unless the government and PETRONAS want to abandon it . As long as crude oil price can sustain above USD 60 , we should be able to get some good returns within one or two years from this company .
2019-02-19 11:27 | Report Abuse
Sapnrg is moving up . Record low 0.255 . Worse scenario like Thheavy 0.045 - 0.05 , unlikely to be happened in the next one or two years unless crude oil drop back to below USD 30 . Down side risk less than 6 sen , worse case 0.25 . After right issue and joint venture with OMV should be ok . Who knows Sapnrg may get some more contracts . From 0.31 may jump to 0.36 - 0.38 .
2019-02-07 00:14 | Report Abuse
If all retail buyers jump in to buy around 0.84 - 0.90 for a total of 2 , 3 millions shares , or even 5 millions , they can press down to kill contra players , but if all retail buyers jump in to buy 0.84 -0.90 for a total of 20 , 30 millions or even 50 millions , then they will be hesitating to press down the price by selling more shares because they afraid that they will lose the control of the company . But , they won't be so stupid to sell all their shares at this range . But if the price is 1.80 or 2.0 , they won't be hesitating to do so .
2019-02-06 23:54 | Report Abuse
Small share capital counters with good results and prospects for the next few years , normally the shares could have been cornered .
2019-02-06 23:38 | Report Abuse
Should be dump the share instead of Lumpur the shares .
2019-02-06 23:36 | Report Abuse
Once the market price is higher than the fair value of the company , they can just sell some shares to push down the price and kill the contra players . When JAKS was trading around 1.30 , the share price was pressed down to 1.00 to create a panic scenario and kill the contra players at the same time . Later the Jaks's shares price was pushed up above 1.70 .
When Carimin was traded around 0.36 , the price was pressed down below 0.24 also .
When the price is pushed up few times from the low of 0.36 , they have a lot of buffer or their safety margin is large . For example , if their cost of purchase is 0.60 and below and the company's fair value is 0.80 , then any price above 0.80 or even 1.0 , they can just Lumpur the shares to the retail buyers .
2019-02-06 22:50 | Report Abuse
Almost all the counters will be hovering in a tight range for few months or even years and traded with thin Volume , because the sharks want to accumulate slowly and to prevent contra players to joint in especially big contra players . Some counters especially small share capital , even if you buy 5k or 10 k , it will drop few sen and cool down for few weeks or months .
When Carimin was traded around 0.28 - 0.32 , the volume traded was thin and they controlled the price movements .
Unless you have multi millions and the share price you bought is far below the company's fair value , then the sharks and major shareholders have no choice , but to push up the share price in order to prevent you from buying or accumulate too much shares at the price below fair value of the company . Just like MR KYY joint in to accumulate the company's shares , they have no choice but quickly push up the share price .
The sharks and major shareholders have accumulated a lot of shares below 0.40 and Mr Kyy could have collected from 0.40 - 0.84 , may be his average cost above 0.60 .
Stock: [ARMADA]: BUMI ARMADA BERHAD
2019-05-12 18:06 | Report Abuse
So for retail buyers who wish to buy or invest in blue chips , they may have to wait for a longer period , May be 6 months , may be a year or may be 3 years or even 3 -5 years or may be invest when a financial crisis happened ? Just like MAYBANK dropped below RM 3.00 when KLCI was @ 262 points in 1998 , subject to you have available funds at that time and brave to invest .
TO invest in blue chips. With a PE of 10 or less than 15 and with a dividend yield of 4 - 5 % should be ok .