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2023-03-05 14:58 | Report Abuse

Huge reduction in borrowing in last 12 months. Rerating on the way.

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2023-03-05 14:48 | Report Abuse

EPF plays yoyo game and preventing share price from going wild. .

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2023-03-05 14:42 | Report Abuse

JTIASA is the cheapest market cap among the plantation companies. Market cap MYR 10k per planted hectare remains undemanding. Most of the plantation companies are traded more than MYR 20k

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2021-05-22 18:15 | Report Abuse

ESG is being misused by the certain group of people. When a sector is making good money then then market manipulators dish out ESG problems. Soon or later, every sector will be facing ESG issues.

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2021-05-22 17:12 | Report Abuse

It is quite straight forward to work out the profit of INNO based on the disclosure of TSH since INNO is the only associate ( stakes: 21.79% ) to TSH. It won't run way much.

1.883m/0.2194 = 8.6m

TSH stakes:
42% - RT Plantation ( classified under subsidiary )
50% - TSH - Wilmar ( JV )

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2021-05-21 19:02 | Report Abuse

SwkPlnt's FFB production has been increasing double digit for the past 2 years after acquiring by TAAN through focusing into enhancement and clearing encumbered areas left by the previous management.

FFB production volume:
Year 2020 - 341,065 MT ( + 22% )
Year 2019 - 280,649 MT (+ 14% )
Year 2018 - 245,852 MT (+ 5% )
Year 2017 - 234,109 MT

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2021-05-21 16:56 | Report Abuse

On top of higher CPO prices, FFB production volume for 2nd Qtr 21 will be higher than 1st Qtr 21.

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2021-05-21 11:33 | Report Abuse

QR is not really good after excluding gain in biological assets due to lowest FFB volume in 1st Qtr 2021 but production has started showing an increasing trend in Apr 2021.

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2021-05-21 07:06 | Report Abuse

60% of the palm oil plantation mature areas is contributed from Indonesia segment . The companies won't be able to profit much during the CPO price rally for the operation in Indonesia due to heavy tax and export duty.

Ijmplnt planation area in AR 2020:

Mature areas :
21,576 hac (Malaysia )
32,793 hac (Indonesia)

Immature areas:
3,322 hac (Malaysia )
3,275 hac (Indonesia)

Extracted from PublicInvest :

Not all players will fully benefit from the CPO price gains. Despite stronger CPO prices, not all players will enjoy the full benefit of CPO price rally as upstream plantation players in Indonesia are subject to hefty CPO export duty (USD144/mt) and CPO excise levy (USD255/mt), there would be huge income losses for them as they are only able to recognize a net CPO price of RM3,000/mt based on the current spot level of RM4,700/mt). This is significantly lower compared to Malaysia’s RM4,324/mt (after netting of 8% CPO export tax). Only players with refinery plants would be able to capture the full market price of CPO given the hedging nature.

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2021-05-20 14:28 | Report Abuse

Extracted from PublicInvest :

Not all players will fully benefit from the CPO price gains. Despite stronger CPO prices, not all players will enjoy the full benefit of CPO price rally as upstream plantation players in Indonesia are subject to hefty CPO export duty (USD144/mt) and CPO excise levy (USD255/mt), there would be huge income losses for them as they are only able to recognize a net CPO price of RM3,000/mt based on the current spot level of RM4,700/mt). This is significantly lower compared to Malaysia’s RM4,324/mt (after netting of 8% CPO export tax). Only players with refinery plants would be able to capture the full market price of CPO given the hedging nature.

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2021-05-20 14:24 | Report Abuse

TSH operation is much dependent on Indonesia segment . The companies won't be able to profit much during the CPO price rally for the operation in Indonesia due to heavy tax and export duty.

TSH planation area in AR 2020:

Mature areas :
4,522 ha (Sabah)
24,380 ha (Indonesia)

Immature areas:
1,653 ha (sabah)
901 hac (Indonesia)

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2021-05-19 21:30 | Report Abuse

TSH is indirectly disclose the profit of its associate, Inno Plantation. With the sharing of the profit from the associate 1.883m, Inno Profit can be worked backwards... roughly about 8.5m in 1st Qtr 21. Hardly see any company announce QR before announcement make by their subsidiary or associate.

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2021-05-19 21:29 | Report Abuse

TSH is indirectly disclose the profit of its associate, Inno Plantation. With the sharing of the profit from the associate 1.883m, Inno Profit can be worked backwards... roughly about 8.5m in 1st Qtr 21. Hardly see any company announce QR before announcement make by their subsidiary or associate.

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2021-05-19 20:24 | Report Abuse

TAAn and Swkplnt will be benefited more from the commodity ride since the companies don't have the policy to hedge their sales or the palm oil is sold at spot prices. Furthermore, they don't have any plantation landbank in Indonesia.

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/PublicInvest/2021-05-19-story-h1565126530-Plantations_A_Super_Cycle_Coming_to_the_End_Soon.jsp

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2021-05-19 20:18 | Report Abuse

TAAn and Swkplnt will be benefited more from the commodity ride since the companies don't have the policy to hedge their sales or the palm oil is sold at spot prices. Furthermore, they don't have any plantation landbank in Indonesia.

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2021-05-18 18:19 | Report Abuse

By looking at the CPO production for the past 6 years, it is obviously the decreasing trend was formed in 2020. The downtrend remains for first quarter 2021 with a reduction of 2% on the back of production quantity 14.55 million ton.

CPO production (Indonesia & Malaysia)

2020 - 70.8 million ton (-1.3%)
2019 - 71.7 million ton (+7.1%)
2018 - 66.9 million ton (+7.0%)
2017 - 62.5 million ton (+13.1%)
2016 - 55.3 million ton (+7.6%)
2015 - 51.4 million ton (+4.6%

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2021-05-18 18:18 | Report Abuse

By looking at the CPO production for the past 6 years, it is obviously the decreasing trend was formed in 2020. The downtrend remains for first quarter 2021 with a reduction of 2% on the back of production quantity 14.55 million ton.

CPO production (Indonesia & Malaysia)

2020 - 70.8 million ton (-1.3%)
2019 - 71.7 million ton (+7.1%)
2018 - 66.9 million ton (+7.0%)
2017 - 62.5 million ton (+13.1%)
2016 - 55.3 million ton (+7.6%)
2015 - 51.4 million ton (+4.6%

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2021-05-15 21:30 | Report Abuse

Calvin. I thought you want to do CSR. True also. It’s not good to you for revealing too many ‘untrusted’ counters. At least, The Edge has identified more than 30 counters in their article ‘hidden hands behind penny surge’

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2021-05-15 20:03 | Report Abuse

Calvin should come out a list of pump and dump companies without supporting of fundamental to serve as a warning for newbies.

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2021-05-15 19:55 | Report Abuse

Must give a credit to Calvin for revealing pump and dump operandi.

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2021-05-14 13:59 | Report Abuse

WTK's main business is timber harvesting and processing. Its plantation performance can't even match with small player like PLS plantation which has been making profits. Not to say that PLS Plantation mature areas is about 10% lower than WTK.

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2021-05-14 13:45 | Report Abuse

No local mainstream medias has reported spike in prices of log, plywood and particle boards. Lagging news?

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2021-05-12 20:15 | Report Abuse

There are many many high NTA companies with small segment in plantation ie Orient, Kseng, KSL ..

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2021-05-12 19:20 | Report Abuse

WTK should be able to make reasonable profit few years later.

WTK's segmental performance for the past 4 quarters.
Palm Oil division LOSSES (excluding revaluation of Biological Assets)
31 Dec 20 - 11.1m
30 Sep 20 - 45.6m (included impairment PPE 22.2m)
30 Jun 20 - 3.2m
31 Mar 20 - 3.8m

Timber division LOSSES
31 Dec 20 - 7.9m
30 Sep 20 - 112.2m (included impairment PPE 59.8m)
30 Jun 20 - 13.9m
31 Mar 20 - 17.8m

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2021-05-12 11:16 | Report Abuse

By looking at the CPO production for the past 6 years, it is obviously the decreasing trend was formed in 2020. The downtrend remains for first quarter 2021 with a reduction of 2% on the back of production quantity 14.55 million ton.

CPO production (Indonesia & Malaysia)

2020 - 70.8 million ton (-1.3%)
2019 - 71.7 million ton (+7.1%)
2018 - 66.9 million ton (+7.0%)
2017 - 62.5 million ton (+13.1%)
2016 - 55.3 million ton (+7.6%)
2015 - 51.4 million ton (+4.6%)

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2021-05-10 23:09 | Report Abuse

WTK's segmental performance for the past 12 months.

Palm Oil division LOSSES (excluding revaluation of Biological Assets)
31 Dec 20 - 11.1m
30 Sep 20 - 45.6m (included impairment PPE 22.2m)
30 Jun 20 - 3.2m
31 Mar 20 - 3.8m

Timber division LOSSES
31 Dec 20 - 7.9m
30 Sep 20 - 112.2m (included impairment PPE 59.8m)
30 Jun 20 - 13.9m
31 Mar 20 - 17.8m

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2021-05-10 22:40 | Report Abuse

TAAn's segmental profitability for the past 12 months.

Palm Oil division PBT (excluding revaluation of Biological Assets)
31 Dec 20 - 56.7m
30 Sep 20 - 71.9m
30 Jun 20 - 27.7m
31 Mar 20 - 12.3m

Timber division
31 Dec 20 - 67.7m (loss)
30 Sep 20 - 3.0m (loss)
30 Jun 20 - 7.4m (loss)
31 Mar 20 - 7.7m (profit)

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2021-05-10 21:03 | Report Abuse

In summary, Palm Oil division posted PBT 56.7 million (excluding Biological Assets revaluation) whereas Timber division reported loss before Tax 67.7 million in 4th Qtr 2020. Surprisingly, positive cash generated from the operation showed 79 million in 4th Qtr alone.

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2021-05-10 20:13 | Report Abuse

Timber division suffered 32.7 million losses before taking into account Written Off PPE and impairment 35 million in 4th Qtr 2020. Huge operating losses of 32.7 million could be due to written down of inventories to NRV in Timber division as Inventory showed a staggered reduction of 42 million in comparing with immediate preceding quarter.

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2021-05-10 17:54 | Report Abuse

Hot money is gradually moving out from Technology sector....and pumping plantation sector.

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2021-05-10 14:46 | Report Abuse

TAAn earnings was dragged by one off impairment and written off PPE in timber division in last quarter. Lumber price hike is the game changer besides CPO bull.

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2021-05-07 10:59 | Report Abuse

Information about the Philippines market as extracted from the funds raising in 2018:

1. Philippines has a population of approximately 100 million with no existing tinplate manufacturers
2. Tinplate in the Philippines are mainly sourced from other countries. (China, Korea & Japan)
3. The annual domestic demand is approximately 220,000 mt

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2021-05-07 09:18 | Report Abuse

JFE Shoji and Nippon Steel don't sell the black plates to outsiders other than their related companies. It is highly capital intensive for setting up black plate production facilities as the products are typically catered to automobile and ship building markets. Black plate for producing electrolytic tinplate market is obviously too small in contributing to the turnover.

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2021-05-07 09:07 | Report Abuse

Perstima is actually controlled by JFE Shoji, the second largest shareholder and the sole raw material (black plate) supplier. Electrolytic tinplate manufacturing does not require high capital intensive or technology skill. The high bearer of entry is to obtain reliability long term supply of black plate for producing electrolytic tinplate.

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2021-05-06 22:22 | Report Abuse

Electrolytic tinplate market works in an oligopoly manner. It seems they have a common consensus in setting up a factory in each country of SEA.

Factory capacity per year
1. Perstima Malaysia - 200,000 mt
2. Perstima Vietnam - 120,000 mt
3. PT Pelat Timah Indonesia - 160,000 mt ( controlled by Nippon Steel)
4. Siam Tinplate Thailand - 140,000 mt ( controlled by Nippon Steel )
5. Perstima Philippines - 200,000 mt

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2021-05-06 22:02 | Report Abuse

Exactly.
Posted by Ben Tan > May 6, 2021 9:37 PM | Report Abuse

Up_down, thank you for your comment. This is very interesting. So what you are saying is that their dividend payout comes 1 quarter later every time?

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2021-05-06 20:19 | Report Abuse

Ben Tan, Nice follow up with the glove sector. Harta dividend policy is quite consistent with the payout 60%. The latest dividend declared 17.7 cents was derived from 3rd Qtr 2021 EPS 29.3 cents x 60%. Next round of dividend expected is 19.7 cents ( 4Qtr EPS 32.75 cents x 60%)

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However, the dividend payout for the financial year came at 39.4%, far below 60%. The closest it came to the mentioned 60% payout was in the last quarter - 54%. No guidance or explanation was provided that I could find, neither in advance, nor post factum on where this significant difference came from. I have recently discussed elsewhere that the lack of proper dividend policy for most Malaysian companies makes it all the more difficult for minority shareholders to analyze the companies and the corresponding risks. Such significant discrepancies don't make it any easier."

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2021-05-05 16:08 | Report Abuse

Currently, Persima was merely enjoyed net profit margin 9% in the latest QR, at much lower than export rebate given by China. The potential of margin hike is imminent in near future as Asia electrolytic tinplate prices is mostly driven by the influx of products from China with the fully refund of 13% VAT for export overseas.

https://hs.e-to-china.com/hs-code-7210-d_3-t_2.html

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2021-05-05 15:34 | Report Abuse

Electrolytic tinplate products are under HS code 7210 which is within the range of the removal of the of export rebate.

https://www.steelorbis.com/steel-news/latest-news/china-to-remove-export-tax-rebates-on-146-steel-productshrc-affected-not-crc-and-hdg-1197361.htm

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2021-05-05 15:14 | Report Abuse

Good news to Perstima to increase profit margin on their products.

https://eurometal.net/china-cancels-export-rebates-for-most-steel-products/

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2021-05-03 13:15 | Report Abuse

Perstima may not be able to pay high dividend as cash is needed to fund the new factory in Philippines. Expecting dividend of 30 cents to 50 cents when Philippines factory starts contributing profit.

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2021-05-03 12:50 | Report Abuse

Accumulate Dlady at the prices 10 years ago while skimmed milk powders has moved into high level.

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2021-04-17 14:56 | Report Abuse

Tinplate selling price remains moving upwards as stated by Johortin in the latest quarterly report.

Prospect - Johortin
Steel price continue its uptrend and with the higher raw material costs, we will have to adjust our selling prices accordingly and this will create a challenging business environment for tin cans.

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2021-04-14 11:09 | Report Abuse

Nice story. Play safe with MBMR.

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2021-04-14 08:40 | Report Abuse

One of the Fong siling picks YOCB.

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2021-04-11 12:50 | Report Abuse

New Tinning Line With Insoluble Anodes For High Quality Strip To PERSTIMA, In The Philippines

https://theenergia.com/new-tinning-line-with-insoluble-anodes-for-high-quality-strip-to-perstima-in-the-philippines/

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2021-01-30 09:30 | Report Abuse

Paperplane. Perstima would do well due to increasing of tin plate prices for the past few months. Bảo Steel has announced increasing of the selling prices early this year. Further more, Perstima is expected to complete its new factory in Philippines at the end of 2021.

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2020-12-31 20:38 | Report Abuse

Mr. Tan,

This is my stock picks for 2021.
1. Perstima - 30%
2. Kossan - 30%
3. Harta - 30%
4. F&N - 5%
5. Dlady - 5%

Thank you.