Posted by Investformilkmoney > 2024-02-23 23:56 | Report Abuse

Next week go up

Posted by calvintaneng > 2024-02-24 17:23 | Report Abuse

INNO CAN GO HIGHER

WHY WHEN CPO PRICES ARE HIGH UPSTREAM PALM OIL PLANTERS WILL DO FAR BETTER , Calvin Tan

https://klse.i3investor.com/web/blog/detail/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/2024-02-22-story-h-188275986-WHY_WHEN_CPO_PRICES_ARE_HIGH_UPSTREAM_PALM_OIL_PLANTERS_WILL_DO_FAR_BET

Posted by calvintaneng > 2024-02-24 17:29 | Report Abuse

RESULTS OF PALM OIL COMPANIES SHOW WIDE CONTRAST BETWEEN UPSTREAM & DOWNSTREAMS, Calvin Tan

https://klse.i3investor.com/web/blog/detail/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/2024-02-24-story-h-187585827-RESULTS_OF_PALM_OIL_COMPANIES_SHOW_WIDE_CONTRAST_BETWEEN_UPSTREAM_DOWNS

Posted by Starship2 > 2024-03-06 09:34 | Report Abuse

Those who are not out for a fast buck, Inno is not all that bad with CPO prices above RM4000..a 3 sen dividend in the pipeline & 80% dividend payout.. Though reported CPO output has been slightly lower, the average CPO prices seems to be better this 1st Q 2024.. Dividend being paid every quarter, the next one is just a couple of months away..But with a very small free float, trading in the stock may not be that exciting generally speaking.....in my view

Posted by Starship2 > 2024-03-06 09:40 | Report Abuse

By " CPO output" I meant the whole thing.....FFB, CPO & palm kennels

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2024-03-06 12:16 | Report Abuse

CPO future now at six months high.

Posted by calvintaneng > 2024-03-08 13:30 | Report Abuse

IF PALM OIL COMPANIES WILL GIVE OUT CONSISTENTLY HIGH DIVIDENDS: THEIR SHARE PRICES WILL RISE LIKE KLK, UTD PLANT OR INNOPRISE PLANT, Calvin Tan

https://klse.i3investor.com/web/blog/detail/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/2024-03-08-story-h-186603663-IF_PALM_OIL_COMPANIES_WILL_GIVE_OUT_CONSISTENTLY_HIGH_DIVIDENDS_THEIR_S

WELL DONE INNO!

Posted by calvintaneng > 2024-03-08 13:30 | Report Abuse

WELL DONE BOD OF TSH WHO STARTED INNO

Posted by calvintaneng > 2024-03-08 16:44 | Report Abuse

Fcpo Rm4,110

Like Inno winning 🏸 Thomas Cup 🏆

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Posted by lionel messi > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Thomas cup? What's so great? Can Inno reap any benefit or not?

Posted by moneyontheway > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

@lionel, is it still good to buy at this price?

Posted by Income > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

https://youtube.com/shorts/FtqI-z6u_9s?si=z1O91G9FCuYq7mvp

Posted by lionel messi > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

@moneyontheway, not sure. Have to ask Calvin.

Posted by hw0706 > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

CPO price high but no crop. so will not be benefit

Posted by speakup > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

https://focusmalaysia.my/pmx-assures-indians-of-no-discrimination-in-malaysia-today-all-races-are-integral-to-malaysias-future/
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someone must be sued kaw kaw until no more pants!

Posted by JrWarren > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Hold 3 years since covid, 1 of the best dividend stock and debt free, Sabah government ownership.

Posted by lionel messi > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

Really? Cool @JrWarren. Hopefully it will follow in the footsteps of UP.

Posted by calvintaneng > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

PALM OIL COMPANIES GOT 2 INCOMES: THE ACTIVE INCOME & PASSIVE INCOME OF A PALM OIL COMPANY, Calvin Tan

https://klse.i3investor.com/web/blog/detail/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/2024-05-03-story-h-182016934-PALM_OIL_COMPANIES_GOT_2_INCOMES_THE_ACTIVE_INCOME_PASSIVE_INCOME_OF_A_

Posted by Sardin > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

Very good Q1 result. Both EPS and DPS are considerably higher yoy. Next UP, maybe.

Posted by Sardin > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

I changed my mind, I am a member now after discovering more 😃.

Posted by lionel messi > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

Welcome Sardin. Great to have you here. Good place to be. Hope you stay for a long time. Cheers.

Posted by moneyontheway > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

how much dividend was declared?

Posted by Sardin > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

2.25 sen brother. 12.5% increase yoy. More to come. Soon the share price will exceed RM 2 because dividend will be very high this year.

Posted by moneyontheway > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

Thank you Sardin. Do you invest heavily in stocks? i see you have UP also. other than plantation stocks, are you buying a lot of others?

Posted by Sardin > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

Wah, you so straight forward ah 🤣. Rafizi asked the same question. I'll consider buying a lot of others when one day become Lee Ka Seng.

Posted by Sardin > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

小荷才露尖尖角，早有蜻蜓立上头。

Posted by moneyontheway > 4 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Sardin, be more direct as i do not know how you apply it to stock investment.
where are you working and from which state? I am trying to be curious.
hope you can share more of yourself. thank you.

Posted by Sardin > 4 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Please introduce your mama first. 😄

Posted by moneyontheway > 4 weeks ago | Report Abuse

I am from Kuching Sarawak and a retiree

Posted by Sardin > 4 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Nice to meet you. I would like to refrain from giving my personal information because it is not relevant to our discussion. I am not sure what exactly you want to know but I'd be happy to help where I could. But remember I am not your friend and I could be wrong sometime so please be very careful.

Posted by moneyontheway > 3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

all right, then it does not matter. in this forum we talk about share investment only. i do not lose anything.

Posted by Tanleechoo > 3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

@Saidin.. how is yr view on INNO and potential other than UP ..

Posted by cheap1 > 3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

1.2-1.3 Inno so long why nobody want?

Posted by Sardin > 3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

My view on Inno? Big U turn (going up) for both EPS and Div. Annual DY above 8% at current price if CPO can maintain 3,800.

Posted by Sardin > 3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Cheap1, because people look at the past where both EPS and DPS were in downtrend.

Posted by Tanleechoo > 3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

👍

Posted by lionel messi > 3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Love your confidence and conviction Sardin.

Posted by moneyontheway > 6 days ago | Report Abuse

@sardin, any dividend for Q1?

Posted by Sardin > 6 days ago | Report Abuse

This is a complicated-to-analyze stock so I think it could be risky for you. When I ask myself more questions I found it to be relatively more "challenging" and "tricky" to value this stock. Maybe someone know it better than me so the price keep on dropping. Sometime market could be right while we could be wrong.

Posted by Fabien _the efficient capital allocator > 5 days ago | Report Abuse

Inno do not own the plantation land. By right, Inno should trade at a discount to the rest of plantation owners.

Posted by Sardin > 5 days ago | Report Abuse

You're right, Fabien. There are at least 3 wonderful things about Inno. First, talk about the land. Land concession is until 2073. It had been extended before, and will be again in future. Company like UP needs to pay for the land as quite a lot of it are leasehold. This cost is recognized as amortization. Comparing this to the rental Inno is paying despite the fact that Inno owns no land, one will find that the "effective cost to use the land" for Inno is a significantly less (RM 1.83 per ha per year or RM 3.40 if you want to assign 0 cost to the land planted with laran trees and move all the cost to the oil palm plantation). The 2nd wonderful thing is this FY2024 EPS and DPS. I would like to get your view on that. Let's see if we got the same figure.

Posted by Tanleechoo > 4 days ago | Report Abuse

Tqsm Sardin for sharing

Posted by lionel messi > 3 days ago | Report Abuse

@moneyontheway, Q1 dividend already announced and will be paid on 28/6/24. 2.25 sen.

Posted by Thirai Thiraviam > 3 days ago | Report Abuse

@Sardin:
> There are at least 3 wonderful things about Inno. First, talk about the land. Land concession is until 2073. It had been extended before, and will be again in future. Company like UP needs to pay for the land as quite a lot of it are leasehold. This cost is recognized as amortization. Comparing this to the rental Inno is paying despite the fact that Inno owns no land, one will find that the "effective cost to use the land" for Inno is a significantly less (RM 1.83 per ha per year or RM 3.40 if you want to assign 0 cost to the land planted with laran trees and move all the cost to the oil palm plantation). The 2nd wonderful thing is this FY2024 EPS and DPS.

Innoprise is in a cyclic commodity business, yet it enjoys a rather decent PER. We have to ask why. I feel the wonderful things you mentioned above are already priced in. From their own reporting, we know that the company is highly dependent on the price of CPO, which, after almost halving a couple of years back, has been stable at around RM 4,000 per ton. So, any growth in earnings must come from either increased production or improved productivity.

As of the end of 2023, the company reported that only 0.5% of the trees were immature; the rest were already producing. (In 2022, 261 hectares were planted with immature trees; this reduced to 56 hectares in 2023.) Regarding the laran trees, they are expected to achieve maturity only about eight years from now. Overall, we do not see much room for growth.

Regarding productivity improvement, the company reported that oil and palm kernel extraction rates improved by 1% and 3%, respectively, in 2023. This, too, suggests a lack of room for growth.

My screener shortlisted this stock because of its strong financials, profitability, and its closeness to the 200-day SMA, but its lack of growth prospects gives me pause. Let me know if I've missed something. Cheers.

Posted by lionel messi > 2 days ago | Report Abuse

I am happy if they can give at least 10 sen dividend every year. Hope not asking too much.

Posted by Sardin > 2 days ago | Report Abuse

@Thirai Thiraviam. Happy to see your response and your thoughts. In the end all the thoughts must be summed up to EPS and DPS forecast in order to give yourself (ourselves) a clear buy, hold, or sell decision. So, based on your best knowledge in Inno, what would be the EPS and DPS for FY2024? After that I will respond in which areas you had not mentioned.

Posted by Thirai Thiraviam > 2 days ago | Report Abuse

@lionel_messi and @Sardin -

For a company to pay a decent (and, hopefully, growing) dividend, it needs to have a decent and growing revenue. In the case of Innoprise, its dividend payout ratio of 0.88 is rather high, leaving very little room to further increase the payout ratio should revenue suffer for any reason. This high payout ratio also suggests that the company might not have significant growth opportunities requiring reinvestment of earnings.

I also looked at the company's net income and accounts receivables for Q1-23 and Q1-24. In Q1-23, net income was RM9.1 million and accounts receivables were RM2.28 million. For the latest quarter, receivables have more than doubled to RM4.67 million, while net income has only slightly improved to RM11.8 million.

I also have questions about the increasing values assigned to plantation trees*, but this suggests (to me, at least) that the company could be a little too creative in recognising revenue.

Given all the above, I’d give this company a pass. I see little upside in the near future, and the dividend would likely be cut if the price of CPO falls below its current RM4,000 per tonne.

* The following is from its 2023 annual report: "Biological assets classified as non-current assets represent standing growing trees to be harvested upon maturity. These plantation trees are measured at fair value less costs to sell. Any gains or losses arises from changes in the fair value less costs to sell are recognised in profit or loss."

Posted by Sardin > 2 days ago | Report Abuse

Hi Thirai, my comments as below:
1. payout ratio ~90% - maintaining this means high or higher EPS WILL BE translated to high or higher DPS
2. Net income increase from 9.1 mil to 11.8 mil is 29.7% improvement, NOT "slightly improved"
3. No profit is assigned to plantation tree yet because these trees are not yet bearing commercial value due to insufficient biomass. The non-current biological assets increase are actually due to the cost incurred in planting and maintaining these trees.

Hope I have cleared your doubt.

Posted by Tanleechoo > 1 day ago | Report Abuse

Tqsm @sardin .. current price is 1.41 , n what is yr valuation . Is it a good time to enter ?