@dragonslayer !
please read again n again n again n again n again my posting ! until your mind is clear then only start barking !!
when a person loose big money in shares their mind set is something like you liow !!!
DID I ASK to hold sumatec ????? !!!! YOU ARE the ONE may be !!!!
go read again n again n again my posting until you understand !!
by the way yesterday you claimed that SOLD all sumatec and SAPU hibiscus !! like that, buy me drink lah !! can make 100 K easily hi hi hi !!!
this only an internet forum lah, everything could be not real, why take thing so emotional !!! calm down yourself think again why you put so much money in sumatec ??? what are the risk ???, is it a earth quake area ? is that country political stable, why HS can get the project easily 3 years ago and never do anything about it ? is khazastan monetary system ok ?
my advice is still avoid first !!! consider after next 2 qtr results !!

now the price can hold is because of new wave in hibiscus !!
when hibiscus cool down Sumatec will face BIG selling pressure again !!!!!
sumatec directors already mentioned clearly their profit will b from mid 2014 onward !! they got to proof it !!
due to their bad track record, fund mgr will only consider after they proof what they claimed !!

minitrader,
have you read any line i condemn ppl here??
i only state my view and concern for newbie here !!!
if we know this share is in down trend,how come we keep telling ppls good buy, TP 50 sen, long term RM3 !!!
i believe you are not newbie !!! and i believe in your heart YOU ALSO notice this share is in heavy distribution to retailers !!!
come on !! dont be selfish lah, if can prevent ppl get trap again, must as well keep send out this reminder to them to be careful. but if they dont listen i also cant help much!!!

@minitrader,
you must be sleeping all this while !!!!!
i have strong recommend big buy n explain in details on second days of listing at barakah thread !!!
go and read again !!!

WHAT IS YOUR ACTUAL MOTIVE HERE?
@flybird
ppl here who read all my posting know i am worry they kena trapped !!!
this type of share is for syndicate game only !! even 1000 havard57 also can not affect a single half a sen !!! so why you worry about me keep remind them to be careful !!!???
ok ok let me ask you;
WHAT IS YOUR MOTIF then !!!???

hhi hi hi another kapala sakit !!!

in china jalan jalan !
Xinjiang area, i am chinese, the ppl here a bit look like malay !
yesterday passed by an oil fields !! ai yah so simple lah !!! just one pipe go in with a valve ! then another pipe distant away burning off the gas !! china oil n gas is so simple !!!
if hibiscus say go china then i will sell the share !!!!!

yes ! smart people will not condemned other !! but look at Victor Valdez, whole day condemn peoples even with dirty words !! really pity him !!

hi hi hi i am here again ! victor sakit kepala again !!
smart people like me will not condemn other but give advice to protect small retailers !!
ok ok today i think they are disposing at 29.5 !!! sellers will keep coming out, how you makan also keep coming out !!! my advice is still avoid this counter for 6 to 8 months !!! unless they can show result then no harm try luck but ......better go for other counter.

hi hi hi
remember a good share of yesterday not guarantee will be good tomorrow !!! UNLESS got proven good track record !!

Posted by Yk John > Dec 11, 2013 09:59 AM | Report Abuse

if u dun like sumatec... u dun come here give comment...

you can not say like that lah, just bcos you buy so you only want good comment.got to be fair to a lot of undecided buyers mah ! They also like you heard a lot of good new but believe only 50%,they deserve to know more before putting in money mah, weh money is hard earn leh !
i am in corporate circle for last 35 years !! i know what is happening in most of the bursa companies !!
money is yours, i only give my view.
HS is already with Sumatec since 2011 !!! CMY just put his name as investor only, he hold very little shares !!! (investor got issue share @17.5 and free WB mah !!!, if invite me i also sell house,sell this first,sell that first to take up the issue share !!! guarantee make money !!!! cost 17.5 some more got 0.25 free wb !!!!! they make 100% by selling @ 30 sen!!! Those old timers will know how this game play, will be same as idris n renong and ending with a BIG bang !!!!!!!!
so far NOT even a single analyst willing to go Khazastan to do a report on oil block there. surprisingly reporters hav been there and got better report than fund mgr !!!
as i said, sumatec must prove that they are able to make profit for NEXT(2014) financial year !!!! 2013 is totally out of question as part of restructure money will be the 84 million profit (all is under regularisation plan)
some joker mention the contract sum of 144 million as profit for next 3 years !!this show how poor knowledge he understand what is that 144 million !!! wont be surprise revenue 144 million,operation cost 250 million !!!
buy only when volume stable down to 10 to 20 million daily

today should have another wave !!
watch closely !!

today ppl are educated not easy fool by news article.
article write up by the edge and the star are mostly got hidden agenda !!
what ever business news has to be come out from director mouth or company spoke man !! They can not tell lie because will end up in jail !!!
Newspaper article is different, who kautim them, they will promote it !!
if keep on like that, sona might loose a lot of potential investors !!

all still blur blur ！
directors sell shares few days before signing contract！？？
so is it a good contract ？
this year sumatec still heavy loss but will declare part of right issue money as profit.
only hope to attract funds to come 舒马特 must show profit for next 2 Q but no evidence that they can ！
chowwwwww

today if you lucky can open 29.5 sen
better run
chowwww

here i come again hi hi hi !!
if i dont come, it will one b one sided story promoting on sumatec, its not fair and also not healthy especially to neutral investors !!
ok let see today any good new for sumatec ?? walao again from the edge !!?? why alway the edge ?? never mind may be the reporter more hard working than business times. signing big project with ME-L-L !!! oh no no right hand signing left hand give project, what so special !!!
ME-L-L is HS 100% personal company who do business in "stan" country
public listed company doing business with director personal company !!!
all business also got risk punya !! the biggest risk here is after successfully developing the project, ME-L-L no money to pay then how ???
simple as that sell the company to sumatec !!!!
i think many share kaki here sure familiar with this sort of story !!!
hi hi hi !!! got ppl angry again liow !!! as far as i am here sumatec newbie will be protected by me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ki ki ki

my sincere advice to all newbie and derrick,
after reading thro n scroll thro again i found that most of the posting here got hidden agenda !! derrick,i dont know whether you are telling truth here or just same as other cakap cakap only !! if you r telling truth i afraid u already kena trapped in sumatec !!! listen , money is not easy to earn unless you r very rich !! i suggest you pull out from sumatec first, monitor for few more months !! If sumatec is so good as they claimed, the shares will trade slowly slowly in up trend direction, then you buy back also not too late because if sumatec can move to 40 sen 5 months later you go buy will not loose money.
if you pull out now, the price keep hovering like this n slow slow down to 20 sen then at least you are saved !!1
dont risk your hard earn money !!!

Posted by derrickinvestor > Dec 10, 2013 04:29 PM | Report Abuse

@harvard57.... i already got trapped at 0.32 la... how to run....

its very susah to go 32 for you to run,what you need to do is cut loss and go to other counter for recovery !! actually today is best chance for you to run at 30 sen, which i keep remind you all to run but too bad ..... next time when the edge n the star got article on that share, you dont need to consult anybody !! you just run for life !!!! NOW A DAY reporters are paid for write up, you better dont trust them !!! unless the news come out from directors mouth !!!
if i am you just cut loss n can hav a peace of mind !!! other T3 again will be killing field.....n normally will trade lower n lower !!!

i will not touch this counter for many more months!!

just to update you guys i bought the OR and subscribed for right n get the free warrant !
but I sold all mother @35 and wb @26 !!!
now scenario is different BECAUSE directors sell, so you also must run fast fast !!!
anyway up to you guys to judge on all my posting !!!
i never send a single holland tip or posting !!!!

not very good sign !!
play share can not be emotional and STICK to the share you LOVED !!!
Got to do some changes when Market "Boh Twe lor"
newbie trust me lah run fast fast esp wa !!!

i hav monitor it very closely, today no selling pressure at all !!!
big guys still on collecting mode, i suspect they dont want it to up so fast for reason only known to them. may be they want margin holder to take profit.
i foresee it will go up another 50 to 100% !!! investors got no much choice on oil exploring counter liow,look like hibiscus is the only one left !!! sumatec directors made a bad move by selling their issued shares last week, confidence on sumatec is eroded badly !!!

this is for all newbie !!!
i am still worry sumatec will sudden throw down !!!!!
in share market we got to very alert !!! last 2 week a buy call can suddenly become big sell call also !!
my concern is DIRECTORS are selling is definitely a very bad sign !!! same as a restaurant owner keep telling their staffs their food is best in town but he quietly eating other restaurant food !!!!
do you notice 30sen sellers non stop coming out !!!!!!?????

@Noraini Ismail
better dont get excited over TN, i think they are playing up to dispose WR !!!!
WR is over price now !!! let say you buy 20 sen,right price another 20 sen, your cost is 40 sen !!! but once ex date mother might fall down to 95 sen !!! then you sure kena trap the warrant !!!
DO you know the the warrant exercise price is RM1.0 !!!!!!!!

@sammj,
ok i understand your feeling........ anyway be careful when invest a counter where's their core business is NOT in Malaysia !!!
unless the countries they in are very transparent in policy !!
eg. if australia ok,middle east only kuwait,oman n UAE ok,china !!! first year ok second year sure kena con upside down !!! africa all cannot consider !! SEA all ok but beware phillipine.. all the "stan" countries !!! so far all Msian company failed there including petronas !!

Posted by Victor Valdez > Dec 10, 2013 11:22 AM | Report Abuse

Paging Harvard57...please give your "brilliant" comments if its not real..and do come back in 6-12 mnths time..We love to hear your thoughts sucker!

if you are so emotional on playing share, THAT will b 1st point of failure in your life.
market is not that simple as you see !!! From what i see first thing to do in sumatec is SELL all your Wa as fast as possible !!!
second thing to do if can sell off at 30 sen better do it now !!!!
let me tell you all 30 sen is from them, they keep makan also their own shares, they will lure some retailers in to buy 30 sen, that is how they slowly slowly dispose off all at 30 sen. all 29.5 sen also theirs !!!
BASICALLY buyers and SELLERS are same person, who ever join in sure buy a share from them !!! stay calm for 5 minutes ..................................................ok now think carefully if you are issued with few hundred million sumatec share@14 sen, DO you keep it or start selling now with 100% profit !!!!
if you been kazastan or mongolia belts, you should know that oil well means nothing, few villagers can pool together can start drilling a oil well !!! they are using very very out of date method of exploring oil !!
if i am not mistaken from inner mongolia to khazastan,there are few thousands sumatec types of oil wells !!!,

as far as price hovering this range, still ok.
monitor the mother, if it break new high or 2.52 today, then no turning back liow !!!!

sell your wa immediately !!!
it not worth even a SINGLE sen !!!

i also got monitor this share and BHS, still undecided when is the right entry price n time .
scable image temperary tarnished by Taib family which prevented the foreign fund buying. BHS lack liquidity also susah to buy n sell.

ok its not fair for me to just give a big blow like that, i retract it if hurt you guys. hi hi hi
but just be careful,they sell shares is nothing to do with debt, the debt already settle through shares value@17.5 sen. what they are selling last friday are "special issued shares" @ 14 sen !!!!!!!! its unfair to those who go for right @ 17.5, i believe they will keep selling !!!
what ever it is, i am here to stop newbie from loose more money !! i will not simply promote a counter or buy call. you will notice my posting is more on remind you dont buy this dont buy that !!! dont worry about my kacau kacau, its of good faith.
you need moral support on sumatec, no problem !!! cheer sumatec ! up sumatec ! go go go sumatec !!!!
got profit just pull out first, dont keep, that is my view.

the share price can hold or not is very depend on the management !!
If like ace counters the bosses sell shares sure koyak !!
sumatec boss did the same by throwing so much mother n warrant in open market, so i would say dont touch sumatec.
so far hibiscus boss never throw a single share, that's why volume so low and yet price jump up so much !! up to now all investors have good faith with the hibiscus directors, if they dont play us out, the price shall surge very much further !!!

avoid this share or jump ship immediately !!!!
its a very bad sign all directors sell shares n warrant in open market !!!!! can forget about this counter liow,company image has GONE !!!

tomorrow will face heavy selling pressure again !!
better run early in the morning !!
sona management is too passive !! syndicates alway use newspaper article to manipulate the the price !! they hav to b more pro active on up dating the QA status to shares holder.
if keep on like this,no investor will hav confidence on the management !!!

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Posted by Harvard57 > Dec 5, 2013 03:03 PM | Report Abuse X

i hav actually monitor the warrant for about a month !!
the movement and behaviour is the same in early sept (95 sen)where every time move up was press down again.then suddenly on 19/9/13 n 20/9/13(thursday n friday) shoot up all the way 60% and never come down till today !!! therefore very high chance will sudden push up another 50% to 2.30 level for xmas !!!

history is going to repeat !!if its truth monday will limit up !!!!



i told you guys dont you !!!!!!!

dont worry about warrant expire date, still got 7 months !!!
now your job is just keep buy warrant !!!
we very sure hibiscus is on uptrend, so of course buy the son which is cheaper because can buy more and more profit also !!!
just buy warrant, dont ask too many question !!!!

hav you guys come across a share keep breaking new historical height !!

morning to now keep create all time historical height !!!
nuclear diffusion is going to take place !!

the edge and star alway write up a false article !!
after that bursa will query sona and the STANDARD reply is ....blar blra...blar...we r not aware.....the reporters must send to jail !!!

i got a feeling its moving toward limit up !!!!!

it hit new high on friday with volume, if next week hit another new high then BHS will break RM2.00 mark before X'mas !!
3 sen tax free div is not relevant anymore because liquidity of this shares are scarce !

those ace with more than 500 million shares are facing selling pressure !! this one more than 2 over billion shares !!!even up 0.05 sen sellers will come out 50 million !!!
how can a IT company suka suka invest in SOHO project,suka suka buy 100 million RA shares,suka suka go indonesia dig coal !!!
his own hard core business dont do but jump here jump there !!! how much private placement n right issue money also no enough for operation cost lah !!! go read your self how much this right issue money will be use for their operation cost again!!!!!!!! Gaji buta !!!

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if you guys dont agreed with me never mind,just read yourself this information from TA, few big brokers are dumping out the shares !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
newbie i advice you guys run as fast as possible,once right issue flood the market all koyak !! Also this right issue GOT NO UNDERWRITER willing to take up the under subscribe share !!! Only the MD mr si who hold only 12% shares willing to under take 120 million shares !!!!
just imagine major share holder ONLY own 12% of shares,88% are free floats in open market !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! same as dvm got no big share holder !!!

mr calvin, i am not surprised you got banned in invetilah !!!
i did follow that forum and find that the admin and some seniors there are of same gangs !!!! normally a senior will start a thread and their gangs member will add water and salts to lure poor newbie in.
honestly i dont find your posting there deserve a ban !!! if their admin is fare many senior sure be ban long ago, i find that got secret agenda behind !! even through i dont agreed with your aggressively campaign for pmc BUT at least you persistently and hav deep faith in pmcorp.
may god bless you in coming x'mas !!
since you are so faithful in pmc, i can not advice you to try other better counter, actually there are some better and faster one !!

Posted by erica > Dec 7, 2013 03:18 PM | Report Abuse

boaz, my average price is at 0.11....

see, when you say in this rotten ship i know you sure loose money punya bcos nobody will make money on this share !!!
this share alway right issue and private placement and keep dumping out into market !!! Now the shares already 2 billion plus !!! after right issue will be 3 billion p[lus !!!!!! They will dump every thing out as far as 9 sen above !!! because they will dump out free warrant at 3 sen also, so actually they still make 2 sen !!!
mr erica ,trust me,if you dont want to be kena trap again just do as what i said !!!! dont listen to ppl who say it will go up, this share has gone, it will hovering around 7 to 9 sen for next 1-2 years, its better quickly jump out from all penny ace counters because very soon all will be trading 5- 8 sen !!! (because bursa never control ace counter therefore every counter also issue private/right share n free warrant and distribute into market !!!)

This shares is old man shares, those who below 35 won't be able to understand their background. Can say is a abandon kid in bursa bcos boss also not bother about it as he is living in London . It's a dead counter occasionally play by sharks for quick money then just forget it. This counter only can play when volume increase,must quick to jump out when volume shrinking !!!

My advice to Erica,
If you are in this rotten ship, you should think how to get out fast before whole ship sink into sea!
Your only way out not to loose all your money is ......
First thing early in the morning of 23/12/13 you quickly sell off all 15000 mother and 7500
OR shares remember give all to buyers,if you lucky still can sell 9 sen if not 8.5 sen also must throw!! Hopefully the OR can throw 3 sen !
If you miss this date I am worry you might kena trap for life this share which will trade 7 to 9 sen

we hav to understand now a day computer equipment is very advance that can detect hydrocarbon 1 to 3 km underground. the result is near 95% accurate !!! the conventional method use 10 -20 years ago which got high failure rate of 50% is obsolete now.
today once you decide to set up rig, the hydrocarbon is confirm underneath, its just a matter how to get the oil out from the well !!
today if the hydrocarbon is too dense or thick can use special solvent to dilute it,if under ground pressure too low to push the oil up, got special pipe to pump in air pressure also, therefore question of no oil is out of topic here !!!!! it all boil down to net profit of how much only !! Hibiscus will not fail in block 50,even it fail this well(not likely) hibiscus still got so many new permit on oil exploring in Norway n Australia. The most important aspect is hibiscus is an oil exploring company NOT a spac anymore !! Sona n Cliq r only a spac status and their handicap are both got NO international connection( their strong political connection got no use in international market), so quite difficult for them to get a good proposal !!
for time being only hibiscus will keep flourishing
the other 2 spac will take many many months more.......to see some light.

i monitor for a month on this stock, totally no liquidity and quietly inch up 1 sen 2 sen daily, 1.40 is the new height,i afraid once break through no turning back liow.
x dividend on chrismas eve, if keep trading at low liquidity, after x dividend will move up to 1.6 level

Posted by Harvard57 > Dec 5, 2013 03:03 PM | Report Abuse X

i hav actually monitor the warrant for about a month !!
the movement and behaviour is the same in early sept (95 sen)where every time move up was press down again.then suddenly on 19/9/13 n 20/9/13(thursday n friday) shoot up all the way 60% and never come down till today !!! therefore very high chance will sudden push up another 50% to 2.30 level for xmas !!!

history is going to repeat !!if its truth monday will limit up !!!!

actually sumatec n hibiscus are of same category for investment
the different of two is sumatec is political link,hibiscus is international link.
sumatec oil exploring only on one country which very secretive n no much info on the country monetary system. Hibiscus exploring is globalise with intl partner.
my view is hibiscus definitely will BIG surge in price soon !!!!

i hav actually monitor the warrant for about a month !!
the movement and behaviour is the same in early sept (95 sen)where every time move up was press down again.then suddenly on 19/9/13 n 20/9/13(thursday n friday) shoot up all the way 60% and never come down till today !!! therefore very high chance will sudden push up another 50% to 2.30 level for xmas !!!

this share should worth same price as prestariang or higher because 95% control by big shares holder.
once move will jump many bids, this type of control share sometime can even limit up !

Yes better stay away from this share !!!
this morning right hand to left hand is a sign of going to FORCE SELL on this share again !!!
If you notice on another forum there is DR and a ikan keep promoting today with another master washing machine support on it (that dr,ikan and washing machine are of same group of shark, that dr alway promote penny stock n the ikan will swim beside him backing him up, many newbie in that forum already kena many times) i hope the newbie here becareful, dont fall trap on all this game !!!!!

yesterday warn you guys to get out already, now news confirmed major share holders has disposed off 15% of shares !
tomorrow will be under more heavy selling pressure especially on mother !! run before TRAPPED !!! they disposed that parcel of shares IS NOT FROM right issue BUT the placement share @14 sen only!!!! i advice you guys better quickly leave the killing field fast !