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2013-11-15 10:18 | Report Abuse

the giant is waking up :-)

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2013-11-15 09:58 | Report Abuse

yet people call him guru :-) heheheeh.

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2013-11-15 09:56 | Report Abuse

Told everybody already. If MPI go up then Unisem will follow :-)

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2013-11-15 09:55 | Report Abuse

HUURAIIIIIII HUAT ARRR

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2013-11-15 02:12 | Report Abuse

hehehe i still hope i can get some at 2.88 :-)

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2013-11-15 02:10 | Report Abuse

if you doubtful then dont come here. why come here when you doubtful ? just to let everybody know that you doubtful? aiyo. well goodnite.

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2013-11-15 02:05 | Report Abuse

Aiyo calvin you revealed too much here. The reason is to push the weak holder out of this stock. because they will become pengacau. we dont want that pengacau at pmcorp.they dont even know what is correction is and start blaming others. so dont revealed a group of investor strategy here.

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2013-11-15 01:07 | Report Abuse

Again this will be forwarded direct to POLICE.

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2013-11-15 00:51 | Report Abuse

This forum should be directed to POLICE.

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2013-11-15 00:07 | Report Abuse

aiyo i hope i can get 2.88 tomorrow early morning. :-( . Looking at the profit for Q1 like this i think i will turn my strategy to become mid term and long investor for this counter. If the momentum maintain and improving, the high chance MPI will wake up again back to its glory day.

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2013-11-14 23:57 | Report Abuse

This is really a shocking profit result. I also miss look this counter. never thought it will touch that huge profit and increase in their revenue simultaneously. I think the giant is waking up. it just wow.

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2013-11-14 22:55 | Report Abuse

early Christmas angpau :-). Normally if MPI up then UNISEM also up. :-) .

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2013-11-14 22:49 | Report Abuse

hahahah aiyo dont sell your underwear...later become ayam togel.hahahhaah

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2013-11-14 22:46 | Report Abuse

ayam tua tomorrow morning my team have to attack MPI first and dump some money there waiting for price hike and 5 cent dividend. the other group will stand by on PM related counter & MUI. :-)

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2013-11-14 22:39 | Report Abuse

hahahah ayam tua this lord of the ring got so many tower.and all will rise together. :-) .

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2013-11-14 22:33 | Report Abuse

MUI BERHAD (A Conglomerate With 7 Branches of Businesses.) Own 70% of PM Corp & also MUI Properties

PM CORP (Also A Conglomerate With 4 Major Divisions) Top 3 Holder of PM Capital & Top 10 in PM Holdings

MUI Properties (Own the Bandar Springhill Land 1,000 Acres outside Seremban on way to PD. Book Value at Only RM2.50 psf.)

PM Holdings (Tours & Travel Company) Just Nice For VISIT MALAYSIA YEAR 2014

PM Industries (Actually this should be at the Top Rank because of Interest in MUI Berhad) Management will get it out of PN17 one day.

PM Capital (Also in PN 17. Company is considering all options. May consider selling PM Securities. Nothing is confirmed yet.

Of the 6, PM CORP IS THE CASH COW OR ATM. No More. For The Last 4 AGMs Share Holders Have Voiced Out Vehemently against using PM Corp's Cash To Save Other Subsidiaries. Since then 3 Directors have resigned and one deceased.
PM CORP IS CASH RICH NOW. WITH HIGH NTA BACKING OF REAL UNDERVALUED SOLID ASSETS. A RECESSION PROOF CONSUMER BUSINESS.

MUI berhad Has RM900 Million Debt. RM300 Millions In Cash. However, MUI BERHAD Has VERY VERY HIGHLY VALUABLE PROPERTIES IN PRIME AREAS. CURRENTLY NOT REVALUED FOR UMPTEEN YEARS. According To Mui Report 2012, Retailing Brought In The Highest Profit.
Unfortunately, The Interest on Borrowings have Overshadowed Positive Results
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Solution To Problem: Sell Some MUI Assets & Settle All Debts. Then the Superior Results of METROJAYA & LAURA ASHLEY WILL SHINE FORTH!! MUI BERHAD WILL THEN APPEAR TO DO VERY WELL

UNDERSTANDING THE PROBLEM - DISSOLVES THE PROBLEM! DO YOU SEE NOW!! SIMPLE. ISN'T IT?


The Computation Of NET NET VALUE OF MUI BERHAD ASSETS (Now 25 cents) ARE ESTIMATED TO BE AT LEAST RM1.50 to RM2.00 Or Even More. As Some One Say, "Like the tentacles of octopus or Spider Web." These Valuable Assets Stretches As Far As UK & USA From East To West. And From HK To Australia(Tasmania). Since the Ringgit Has Collapsed, these assets look even more valuable now.

OUR VERY FIRM CONVICTION FOR PM CORP & MUI BERHAD ARE CLEAR:

1) PM CORP - THE BARGAIN OF THE CENTURY!

2) MUI BERHAD - THE HIBERNATING GIANT IS WAKING UP AT LAST!


For Short Term Trading Or Speculating We Cannot Tell Your Profit Or Loss.

BUT IF YOU ARE A REALLY SERIOUS LONG TERM INVESTOR, THIS PULL BACK TIME OPENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BOTH PM CORP & MUI BERHAD AT CHEAP ENTRY PRICE..

Best Regards,

Calvin Tan

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2013-11-14 22:32 | Report Abuse

hey calvin allow me to post some of your comment in investlah here.

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2013-11-14 22:26 | Report Abuse

our team now focusing on MUI and PMCORP will rise as you mention from the good result. MUI also going have a good result soon.

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2013-11-14 22:15 | Report Abuse

mikekong you answer it already. PMI egm on sale of building RM60m to clear debt and get company out of PN17. And that building is the sole provider of PMI profit all this while. If they decide to sell it then they have think of other way to generate income and if not then PMI will not able to go out from PN17 status.That is what we waiting for. What management decision way forward.Yes it will reduce PMI debt but it will not get PMI out of PN17 status as they going sell their only profit making vehicle. So the share holder know this well and better. That what our group here waiting for.it will not much effect tomorrow price as the EGM only on 5 pm but maybe next week.

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2013-11-14 20:45 | Report Abuse

waaaaaa why im not buying this counter before.tomorrow sure up kaw kaw. will q early morning. the revenue increase from last year 318 Million to 330 Million and profit increase like crazy from 2 million last year to 23 million this year. EPS already 9.43 and dividend 5 cent. wow. the best.

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2013-11-14 20:37 | Report Abuse

relax still at early stage.everyday makan also not good ma.need rest and flush some more before the next push :-) .

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2013-11-14 20:25 | Report Abuse

i still wait for the EGM tomorrow. What will be the decision from management of MUI & PMI. If they agree to sell the assets for RM 60 Million cash then PMCORP,MUI & PMI have to make decision whether on the future of PMI. PMI hold a lot of MUI share and PMCORP also PMI shareholder. So very interesting to see the outcome for tomorrow EGM.PMCAP also going to shoot tomorrow since its profit turn from negative to positive and the revenue also increase.

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2013-11-14 14:19 | Report Abuse

hoi Mok4444 why you blaming calvin. You should blame your self. Calvin didnt put gun in your head and ask you to buy. You make your own decision on buy or sell. Calvin even not ask you to be a contra,day trader or T4 buyer. When the price go up you said a good thing about him and when the price go down you blame. Aper punya orang.I hope those contra kaki will burn kaw kaw. This stock not for u. go other place to invest or put your money. This is fro mid term and long term holder. If you still insist you put your money inside and when there is a correction dont blame other. You have your self to blame.

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2013-11-14 13:29 | Report Abuse

waiting for PMI EGM tomorrow. :-)

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2013-11-13 11:35 | Report Abuse

i told already for weak holder please sell and go away. dont kacau here. play somewhere else.

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2013-11-13 11:33 | Report Abuse

mcm ni punya orang = Eric Tee ni pun masih ada in malaysia. He didnt put a gun in your head to ask you to buy . What a stupid .....

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2013-11-13 11:21 | Report Abuse

Will Be Leaving For Iskandar Now. My 014 6101668 will be accessible by 12 noon till this evening in Johor. Any questions Feel Free To Call, Thank You.

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2013-11-13 11:15 | Report Abuse

for those weak holder please sell. cepat cepat. sell and go main jauh jauh.hahahhaha.

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2013-11-13 11:05 | Report Abuse

« Reply #140 on: Today at 11:03:37 AM »
Master Washing,

Hope to see you in June 2014 PM Corp AGM.

As Long As Invest Lah Allow me to post here, I will be always around. Feel Free To Ask Questions About PM Corp or MUI Berhad.
If I don't have the answer I can always ask Management for you.

What Is Legal Can Always Be Disclosed. Everything Is Transparent. There Is Nothing To Hide.

Remember The Book Says, "STRONG MEN RETAIN RICHES"

Will Be Leaving For Iskandar Now. My 014 6101668 will be accessible by 12 noon till this evening in Johor. Any questions Feel Free To Call, Thank You.

Faith Is the Victory Over All Doubts, Naysayers and Above All

Our Own Greatest Enemy Within Us - "GREED AND FEAR"

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2013-11-13 11:04 | Report Abuse

« Reply #137 on: Today at 10:50:40 AM »
Yes. Special ID. Announcement of 3rd Quarter Result will be out this month. I told Mr. Ho to incorporate the profit of Singapore Warehouse Sale Into It.

As To Cash Pay Out. It Will Be Either This Month Or Next month latest by Dec 31st, 2013.

Opportunity For Those Who Missed PM Corp Rally Has A Very Good Entry Point Now In Heavy Correction.

I remember KPS & BJ Corp corrections on their way up. Since I am still FULLY INVESTED. I don't have extra cash to buy.

ANYWAY, IF YOU ARE A LONG TERM HOLDER, YOU SHOULD DO WELL.

I REPEAT YEAR 2014 & 2015 BELONG TO PM CORP & MUI BERHAD.

WE ARE TOLD TO BE GREEDY WHEN OTHERS ARE FEARFUL & TO BE FEARFUL WHEN OTHERS ARE GREEDILY BUYING.

Have To Leave For Exciting Iskandar Again.

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2013-11-13 11:04 | Report Abuse

« Reply #133 on: Today at 10:26:23 AM »
How To Arrive At The Intrinsic Value of PM Corp at RM1.20? That is a Good Question.

PM CORP HAS 3 MAIN DIVISIONS:

1) INVESTMENTS IN QUOTED & UNQUOTED SHARES'
Quoted Shares Are MUI Berhad, MUI Properties, PM Holding & PM Capital
Unquoted Shares Are Many. Eg. RM20 Millions in Laura Ashley Franchise in South America.

2) FOOD MANUFACTURING
OEM FOR TESCO, COSWAY & FERNTEA (BARNSBERRY SOLD IN MYDIN)
Own Products Like Tudor Gold, Tango & Crispy
Also Distributes Silang Potato Chips & Sticks
KIWI Fruit Drinks
Toblerone Chocolate to 7 Eleven
Capri Sonne Fruit Drinks
M150 Energy Drink
And Others. More Will Be Added. DKSH & Harrison Also Doing The Same - in larger quantities.

3) REAL ESTATE. The Real Estates of PM Corp Like All MUI Group of Properties Are All Very Undervalued.
Since they have more than doubled & tripled some up 10 times. It is a Conservative estimate to say that the NTA is Not 44.5 cents but RM1.20.

4) PM Corp Also Lend Substantial Amount of Monies To Other MUI Companies With Interest.

Let me give just 2 examples of PM Corp's Assets

1) A 2,000 sq ft Penthouse in Tangling View, Orchard Road, Singapore. Book Value listed in PM Corps's Annual Report Year 2012. Stated at RM2.7 Millions. You can check and verify Singapore Tangling View at Property Guru S'pore. Company has received offer of S$3.5 Millions (About RM9 Millions)

2) A 6 ACRE WAREHOUSE In Shah Alam With MAIN ROAD FRONTAGE. Bought in Year 2009 For RM17 Millions. Current Value: Over RM50 Millions.

Both these 2 examples showed that PM Corp's Assets Have TRIPLED In Price.

PM Corp Has RM141 Millions (About 20 Cents CASH Per Share) Only RM 5 Million borrowing. Almost Zero Gearing.

A ROCK SOLID COUNTER!!


I Just Spoke To Mr. Ho To Include The NFI WAREHOUSE SALE RESULT IN THIS MONTH'S RESULTS. Book Value RM14 Millions.
SOLD FOR RM39.7 MILLIONS. A HUGE PROFIT OF RM25.7 MILLIONS!

PLUS THE IMPENDING GOOD NEWS OF CASH PAY OUT SOON!

WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN DAY TRADERS, T+4 TRADERS, SHORT TERM SPECULATORS, FICKLE MINDED CROWD FOLOWERS. WE WANT TO MEET SERIOUS LONG TERM INVESTORS.

AFTER THIS EARTH QUAKE OF 9 MAGNITUDE. WHO WILL STILL KEEP FAITH? WE WANT TO MEET YOU IN JUNE 2014 PM CORP AGM.
SEE YOU THERE!

WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTION PERSONALLY? Call 014 6101668. 02 91069127 (Spore) Sorry my email is flooded with spams.

WARNING! DON'T LISTEN TO RUMOURS. WAIT FOR GOOD RESULTS FROM PM CORP MANAGEMENT.

THOSE WHO HAD SOLD OUT PM CORP AT HIGHER PRICES AND THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE PM CORP SHARES ARE DESPERATELY TRYING TO FRIGHTEN YOU GUYS & GALS TO SELL DOWN CHEAP FOR THEM TO BUY BACK CHEAP.

PM CORP IS NO ORDINARY SHARE. THE COMPANY IS ROCK SOLID! I CANNOT SAY ABOUT THE FICKLE BEHAVIOUR OF PEOPLE.

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2013-11-13 11:03 | Report Abuse

« Reply #131 on: Today at 09:19:38 AM »
Dear Friends & Genuine Investors at PM Corp Forum,

Shaken By Fear Because PM Corp's Price Has Corrected? The Bargain Of The Century Is Now Below 30 Cents. Intrinsic Value RM1.20.
As A Very Long Term Investor It Doesn't bother us at all'

IF YOU KNOW - THERE IS REALLY NOTHING TO FEAR.

CERTITUDE IS A GREAT THING - I AM ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN OF THE WORLD BEATING VALUE OF TUDOR GOLD & TANGO!

PM CORP IS NOT A GORENG COUNTER.

With Or Without My Promotion - PM Corp Shall Rise Or Fall On Its On Intrinsic Deep Value and Sound Fundamental!

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2013-11-13 11:03 | Report Abuse

Reply #129 on: Today at 08:46:46 AM »
A Very Good Morning from Calvin of Jurong West, Singapore,

Yes! I forgot to mention my brief visit to Giant Supermarket in Plentong & ECONSAVE Supermarket in Taman Daya (Keck Seng Territory).

As my usual practice (hobby) I will rearrange all the TUDOR GOLD, TANGO & CRISPY Chocolates on the shelves into their respective places. Shuffle those behind to the front for clearer visibility. What is not seen is not sold. Cadbury employs special workers who travel to least 5 or 6 supermarkets a day for this purpose.

Of course, all the Supermarkets have staff who fill up the empty shelves with fresh stocks. But they only do so mostly during the morning daily. A neat appearance attracts shoppers. Also Nestle & Cadbury will take up prominent display shelves near check out counters. This Is Expensive space, very high rent. Since NFI keeps its cost low and GIVE GOOD VALUE, you rarely see TUDOR GOLD OR TANGO on check out counters or shelves.

I have been doing this from year 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 & much of this year. I noticed that TANGO Chocolates sell better in Singapore because Malaysian Made Cadbury & Vocelle are not found in Singapore. The Made in Malaysia Cadbury has only less than 7% genuine cocoa. The rest is filled with chocolate fillers like illipe and shea fats (both cost about 2 cents a kg)

For an averaged Made in Malaysia Cadbury Bar 200gm - the cost to make is about 80 cents. Offered For Sale In Giant Supermarket at RM7.99. Many times Promoted at RM5.99. And of course, to the unsuspecting and gullible Malaysians, they are snapping it up happily. Not knowing there is a Future Pay Back time in High Medical Bills Due To Heart Attack (World No. 1 Killer) & Stroke (World No.2 Killer).

Personally, I Will Not Eat any Malaysian Made Cadbury, Nestle's Kit Kat, Vocelle, or Made in China Van Houten or Hershey. They All Have Illipe / shea as a MAJOR COMPONENT As INGREDIENTS. Will You Drink MASSAGE OIL & EAT CANDLE WAX? This Is What Illipe Is Meant To Be Used. Surprise of Surprises. Men, Women & Children are lapping it up unknowingly by eating them wrapped in the colorful packaging of Branded Chocolate Names to an early grave.

TUDOR GOLD & TANGO have None Of These Destructive Ingredients. Illipe & Shea Fats Block your blood vessels and do great damage to your bodies. Once consumed, these lipids, saturated fats and tri glycerides stay in our bodies and slowly do their destructive work. silently.

While melamine does harm instantly illipe's ill effects will only show up later in life by a fattening body, heart attack, stroke, breast cancer, high blood pressure and all other related illnesses.

TUDOR GOLD & TANGO (With ANTIOXIDANT) Gives Health & Prolong Lives By Clearing our Blood Vessels of Lipids- enabling blood flow and Vital Oxygen To All Parts of Our Bodies. A Really God Sent - Giving Good Health To All. It Is Costly To Produce Tudor Gold with 29% Cocoa content.

This Is My Mission. I Take This As A Hobby. Call Me By Any Names. It Doesn't Matter. I hope You Will Protect Your Selves First, then tell all your close friends about TUDOR GOLD & TANGO.

TUDOR GOLD AMBASSADOR

I Have Seen The Vision;
And For Self I Cannot Live.
Life Is Less Than Worthless;
Till My All I Give.

I Have Caught A Passion;
And For Tudor Gold I Live.
Life Is Filled With Purpose;
With My All I Give.

Are You Now In Action?
Telling Every One You Meet?
Tudor Gold and Tango;
So Good and So Sweet.

Have You Seen The Vision?
Caught The Passion?
Now In Action?

Have A Nice Day.

TUDOR GOLD, TANGO & CRISPY Are Available In GIANT, TESCO, AEON, COLD STORAGE, MYDIN & ECONSAVE(Only Tango & Crispy)

Please Eat In Moderation For Joy & Good Health.

And Bon Appetito!

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2013-11-13 10:15 | Report Abuse

please sell please sell please..to all weak holder. cepat cepat sell. :-) . heheheh

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2013-11-13 01:19 | Report Abuse

Message from CALVIN in INVESTLAH :-) To all PMCORP Member :-

I think the admin of i3 forum is very partial. Nothing is done to stop the postings of calvintansyndicate which attack character. I am unable to reply as I am barred. As such I think i3 admin will definitely lose credibility due to partiality

GREAT MINDS TALK ABOUT IDEAS, GOOD MINDS ABOUT THINGS; WEAK MINDS TALK ABOUT PEOPLE. SEEK THOSE THAT HAVE GREAT MINDS AND AVOID THOSE THAT HAVE WEAK MINDS UNLESS YOU CAN BE OF HELP TO THEM! - Dr. Jack Hyles

ALL i3 PM CORP FORUM MEMBERS ARE CORDIALLY INVITED TO COME OVER TO INVEST LAH!

There Is Nothing To Hide. My H/Phone is 014 6101668 and Weekend 02 91069127 (S'pore)

Best Regards,

Calvin Tan

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2013-11-13 01:10 | Report Abuse

MESSAGE FROM CALVIN TODAY TO ALL i3investor Forum member under PMCORP :-

Dear Friends & Investors at PM Corp Forum,


I have waited since November 9th, 2013 to post comments on i3 Forum. But till today I am unable to do so; despite trying day and night. I hereby declare to all Our Friends & Investors in i3 Forum that it is not my intention to avoid posting; BUT I AM PREVENTED FROM POSTING Since i3 Forum admin has not kept their words.

Today has been a very busy day in Iskandar. I visited the KN Kenanga guy who bought 1 Million PM Corp Shares. I told him that MUI Berhad is the number One beneficiary of PM Corp's Price Surge since MUI Berhad owns 70& PM Corp shares. The last 4% bought at only 12 to 13 cents.

So MUI Berhad is a far better buy than Tafi or any other shares since MUI Berhad hasn't moved much.


Then I paid a visit to OSK (RHB) Investment Bank. Here I met Our True Sifu & Champion Lawrence Tan & other Johor Investors. We did a comparison between Keck Seng & MUI Berhad. Which has the better assets? Bring out Keck Seng Assets? Land in Kangkar Baru, Kong Kong & Tanjung Puteri. They are located in worse places than MP Corp's land in Nusa Damai. Then we talked about MUI Berhad's Gain in PM Corp's share price surge.

Also the highly valuable assets of MUI Berhad in prime location, unlike Keck Seng. Mr. Market has Overpriced Keck Seng & GROSSLY UNDERPRICED MUI BERHAD.

PM Corp & MUI Berhad are interlinked just as KFima & Fima Corp. Since PM Corp has gone up in price, it is only a matter of time that MUI Berhad follows.

Then I left to inspect 2 houses under renovation concurrently. One more house starting soon. And also I managed to sell one low cost house bought for RM63K in year 2007. A corner unit with renovation on 2200 sq ft freehold land. Price? Only RM152K. You can't get this in KL or Penang. Only in Iskandar.

Also collected a rental cheque & called other tenants to bank in rental.

And lastly, I met a buddy investor. I have mentioned this in i3 forum before. Let me relate his experience. He said that in the early days of KLSE he received actual paper scripts when he bought shares. One stock called United Engineers was purchased at 90 cents.
Alas! he lost the physical scripts but since UE priced dropped lower and lower he didn't bother with it.

One day he saw UE price doubled to RM1.80. So he got interested and told his stock brother to get a replacement duplicate shares. But it took 3 long agonising years to trace and trace and trace till he got the new scripts. 3 Long Wearying years! Then to His Glad Surprise!!
UE Price Has Shot Up To RM9.00. If he has the shares in hand he would have sold them off at RM1.80. He became a long term investor by default - So He Got A Locked In Windfall of RM9.00. An accidental 10 bagger.

He suggested buying PM Corp & hiding it out of sight. And see how PM Corp will perform in future years. You see, Shares are Very Liquid, unlike Illiquid Real Estate. You don't call your Housing Agent morning, afternoon and evening to check on the price of your house daily. Do you? But you will check the share price morning, afternoon and evening daily. Some are stuck to the Computer Screen the Whole Day Checking Share Prices.

Unless you have strong discipline or strong will you won't be able to keep your shares long. The temptation to sell or buy by Greed or Fear Is Always There Everyday -Every Hour-Every Minute To Buy Or To Sell!

How I Wish That We Return To Those Days of Physical Scripts & Let Every One Lose PM Corp Scripts. Then See At What Price PM Corp Will Be in Year 2016?

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2013-11-12 20:48 | Report Abuse

aiyo now start the blaming games already.

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2013-11-12 20:40 | Report Abuse

the highest price it think around 0.16. can it break that price this time. :-)

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2013-11-12 20:36 | Report Abuse

im a long term holder and my TP is 0.50. So not much to worried about the price. My focus is on DGSB this week and next week. PMCORP will monitor also but still a long way to go November and December still not yet finish.

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2013-11-12 20:29 | Report Abuse

mikekong55 i believe it is only a minor correction for another push and rally.well Im not give a prediction based on TA/FA. So hope people dont follow treat this personal view seriously. heheheh. I just that again i think it will go down on the opening and may be go up after that. Every rally must have a pull back and it is done.I think the remaining contra or weak holder all run already and the remaining will do it so tomorrow morning.but then it is only my personal view. :-)

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2013-11-12 19:40 | Report Abuse

the best flush away yet. Now waiting for tomorrow. Hope no one chase it so that it is easy for it to shoot to 0.38.

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2013-11-12 16:25 | Report Abuse

cepat cepat jual siapa mau jual.hahahah almost 4.30 already. this is the best chance to kasi all the weak holder tendang keluar.

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2013-11-12 10:35 | Report Abuse

If NEXTNAT going up then RA will follow since NEXTNAT got share in RA.
:-)

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2013-11-08 21:06 | Report Abuse

hehehe kan sulah ciakap. :-) . flush buy...flush buy... until next week. 13,14,15 heheheh watch out for the shoot. :-)

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2013-11-08 15:18 | Report Abuse

why suddenly eat all the buy Q. eeee.

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2013-11-08 15:07 | Report Abuse

aiyo down again :-(

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2013-11-07 20:45 | Report Abuse

http://www.malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/60327-what-actually-did-happen-in-sungai-limau

What actually did happen in Sungai Limau

The ‘missing’ 777 Chinese voters could mean a sign of protest by the Chinese (especially since their turnout of 57.82% is lower than the 85.5% average). This could be because they are not happy with PAS and neither do they want to vote Umno so they would rather ‘abstain’ from voting.

THE CORRIDORS OF POWER

Raja Petra Kamarudin


In my article ‘Chinese still the kingmaker’ of two days ago I said:

About 85.5% or 23,249 of the 27,222 registered voters in Sungai Limau turned out to vote. Out of these 27,222 registered voters, 1,842 are Chinese. Let us assume that 85.5% of the Chinese voters turned out to vote as well. That means about 1,575 of the 1,842 Chinese voters voted yesterday.

Now, in the recent general election, 97% of the Chinese voters voted opposition. So let us assume that the Chinese support for the opposition has remained the same and in yesterday’s by-election 97% of the 1,575 Chinese voters voted opposition as well. That would mean 1,347 Chinese voted for PAS yesterday.

PAS garnered 12,069 votes versus Umno’s 10,985 (giving PAS a majority of 1,084). Now, if the 12,069 votes that PAS won includes the 1,347 Chinese votes, that would mean the Malay votes that PAS won was only 10,722 versus Umno’s 10,655 (10,985 minus the 3% Chinese votes that Umno won based on the assumption that 97% of the Chinese voters voted opposition).

This would mean (if it was 10,722 Malay votes for PAS versus 10,655 Malay votes for Umno) the Malays are still split 50:50 like what Nazri Aziz told me five years ago. And this would also mean that PAS won the Sungai Limau by-election yesterday with a 1,084 majority because of the 97% Chinese support representing 1,347 Chinese voters.

Hence the Chinese (if 97% continue to vote opposition until the next general election) are the kingmaker. And it also means that the Chinese have not swung back to the ruling party and continue to support the opposition until today.

(READ MORE HERE)

I also said: I am still working on the basis of ‘educated guess’ and not backed with the details of the saluran.

Well, these are the actual figures that I just received.

While 23,249 or 85.5% of the 27,222 registered voters came out to vote, only 23,054 votes were counted (195 votes were rejected/spoiled votes or not counted).

From this 23,054 counted votes, 1,065 were Chinese voters and not 1,575 as I had expected -- which would translate to only 57.82% and not a 85.5% voter turnout for the Chinese.

Barisan Nasional claims that 30% of the Chinese voted for the ruling party while 70% voted opposition. Others say only about 10% of the Chinese voted government (they claim an increase of 60-70% from the last time) while the rest voted opposition.

Okay, let us take the average of the two: 20%. That would mean about 213 Chinese voters voted for Umno while about 852 voted PAS.

The total counted votes was 23,054. Minus the 1,065 Chinese voters, we can assume that 21,989 of the voters were Malays.

PAS won 12,069 of the votes and Umno won 10,985. Minus the Chinese votes, that would mean PAS won 11,217 of the Malay votes and Umno won 10,772 -- a majority of 445 for PAS based on just the Malay votes.

Hence PAS’s majority of 1,084 would translate to 11,217 Malay votes and 852 Chinese votes while Umno won only 10,772 Malay votes and 213 Chinese votes.

The ‘missing’ 777 Chinese voters could mean a sign of protest by the Chinese (especially since their turnout of 57.82% is lower than the 85.5% average). This could be because they are not happy with PAS and neither do they want to vote Umno so they would rather ‘abstain’ from voting.

My conclusion is: with a slim majority of Malay votes for PAS (445), the 777 Chinese voters could have swung the results had they come out to vote and had they voted for Umno, especially if the 1,065 Chinese voters who did come out to vote had also voted government.

Hence for my statement in my earlier article: Chinese still the kingmaker.

Or maybe I should have said: Chinese still the kingmaker, if they so choose to be.

Incidentally, the opposition votes in the five voting districts that the Chinese voted in saw a drop this time around compared to the last general election in May this year. Was this because of the Chinese voters? Even MCA and Gerakan can't confirm this yet at the time I wrote this article.

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