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2017-02-06 12:11 | Report Abuse
Look at the trend when u invest or hold the stocks. NEVER hold onto downtrend stocks. These losers get stuck in Evergreen and the only thing they can do is talk good on it. Nothing more or spectacular. Boring same old hopeful waiting game. Ha ha!!
2017-02-06 12:11 | Report Abuse
Look at the trend when u invest or hold the stocks. NEVER hold onto downtrend stocks. These losers get stuck in Evergreen and the only thing they can do is talk good on it. Nothing more or spectacular. Boring same old hopeful waiting game. Ha ha!!
2017-02-06 12:10 | Report Abuse
Those losers came out and shout when share price up little bit but remain quiet when down. Typical losers attitude detected. Ha ha!!
2017-02-06 12:08 | Report Abuse
Dolly is obsessed to have ppl refer him as expert but the fact is he's asspert/arsepert. It's easier to shout when share price up but remain quiet when down. Typical loser attitude detected. Ha ha!!
2017-02-06 12:03 | Report Abuse
If Evergreen's upcoming qtr result decrease profit again then red flags will be raised again.
2017-02-06 12:02 | Report Abuse
It is easy to shout for glory when price up. Typical loser attitude detected. Ha ha!! Why those days when down, this dolly mad dog was hiding leh? Idiotic loser.
2017-02-03 16:58 | Report Abuse
Someone use another ID to praise back himself. What an idiot! LOL
2017-02-03 16:56 | Report Abuse
This idiot Dolly mislead ppl in Evergreen still not enough? Don't preach the wrong things due to ur own stuck positions in pansar lah. Idiot!
2017-02-03 16:55 | Report Abuse
Dolly is just a KCChong's balls licker. Idiot follows others buy calls simply. Plz lah have ur own stance & don't always follow. Typical balls licker.
2017-02-03 16:53 | Report Abuse
Idiot dolly changed his stance every time feeling vulnerable & feel like to take a reverse gear. Just read ur own past comments & public can know lah. U don't have to act like idiot because u are already an idiot.
2017-02-03 16:37 | Report Abuse
WOW Dolly resurfaces with true self LOL
2017-02-03 16:33 | Report Abuse
Typical loser like DOlly will always come out when up and hiding himself when down. Loser is always a loser.
2017-02-03 10:34 | Report Abuse
LOL stockraider failed miserably! Meh failed in Evergreen already loh. This poor dude trying so hard to save his own face. Ha ha!!
2017-02-03 10:09 | Report Abuse
Dolly and stockraider abandoned Evergreen already. Since it starts falling, the clown duo couple have vanished. Maybe hiding or sold out Evergreen? Ha ha!!
2017-01-31 09:22 | Report Abuse
Read today's news above. Good for Hevea!
2017-01-31 09:21 | Report Abuse
Mieco Chipboard Bhd, one of the largest particle board manufacturers in
Malaysia, stands to benefit from the increasing demand and higher prices of
particle boards in the coming months.
According to industry observers and analysts, particle board prices will likely
increase by over 10%, following floods in Thailand which are curbing the
supply of raw materials. Demand for particle boards is also seen increasing
with many local furniture players enjoying better sales on the back of the
stronger US dollar since last year. (StarBiz)
2017-01-27 11:28 | Report Abuse
Dolly zai, don't speak vulgar language. Serves u right.
2017-01-26 14:21 | Report Abuse
I've responded u everything loh. Why u so long-winded one? LOL
Look at Hevea's market cap overtaking Evergreen loh.
2017-01-26 14:19 | Report Abuse
Biased and manipulated? Look at facts. Did I change the figures? No mah. All are taken directly from all reports.
If Evergreen can earn RM 20m net profit per quarter then it will take at least 3 years to pare down and break-even with the giant debts. Unless u don't know how to calculate? LOL
2017-01-26 11:37 | Report Abuse
WOW someone gone berserk today. I must have twitched Dolly's nerve. Why so mad leh? Relax lah, there is nothing u can do but accept that the balance sheet of Evergreen is not good and will be worse because of these:
1) Huge total debts of RM 216.585m.
2) Short-term debts of RM 107.633m MUST be settled by next quarter release.
3) Cash balance will decrease from RM 141,018,000 to RM 31,519,197 or less (#Bank interest not calculated yet). Most likely to borrow more debts because it needs more cash to service the other LONG-TERM DEBTS of RM 108,952,000.
4) Over-reliant on ONE product that is MDF (80% revenues from it) which is hampered by the unstable pricing and raw materials because of hard wood prices.
5) Net profit margins run into negative and fluctuate not stable over the years. Go check for proof. Net profits falling for 5 consecutive quarters.
6) No dividends given out since year 2012 and most recent given out lousy RM 0.01 only on 20-04-2016. If a company amassed such huge debts, how do u think they will give out dividends with cash balance going to diminish?
2017-01-26 11:34 | Report Abuse
Do u not understand the word Short-term ???
2017-01-26 11:30 | Report Abuse
Mislead what to be specific? How did I mislead?
U are the one mislead others into believing the debts of Evergreen is nothing but the facts is that it is worrying.
2017-01-26 11:25 | Report Abuse
Ha ha! The fact is that MDF business is no more good that is why Evergreen become a late-comer into the particleboard and RTA scenes. Now so much debts and all other competitors are in net cash.
2017-01-26 11:09 | Report Abuse
LOL pansar's profit margins so low also u buy ah? Liquidity so low, the stock barely moves. Stay away from it lah. WOW
2017-01-26 11:02 | Report Abuse
Aiyoooo! Why Dolly buy this one leh? 1.63 is way over it's NTA 1.264 mah. LOL
WOW why family members fight until go court case leh? Habis loh HSL. These sarawakians don't play-play one
2017-01-26 10:57 | Report Abuse
Dolly, don't block the way. Hevea is busy and continues. LOL
2017-01-26 10:39 | Report Abuse
May u answer that why Evergreen spend on heavy CAPEX for years but PROFIT MARGINS not stable like Hevea and other competitors? Either Evergreen's management is not capable or lazy? Inefficient or ineffective?
2017-01-26 10:37 | Report Abuse
WOW someone gone berserk today. I must have twitched Dolly's nerve. Why so mad leh? Relax lah, there is nothing u can do but accept that the balance sheet of Evergreen is not good and will be worse because of these:
1) Huge total debts of RM 216.585m.
2) Short-term debts of RM 107.633m MUST be settled by next quarter release.
3) Cash balance will decrease from RM 141,018,000 to RM 31,519,197 or less (#Bank interest not calculated yet). Most likely to borrow more debts because it needs more cash to service the other LONG-TERM DEBTS of RM 108,952,000.
4) Over-reliant on ONE product that is MDF (80% revenues from it) which is hampered by the unstable pricing and raw materials because of hard wood prices.
5) Net profit margins run into negative and fluctuate not stable over the years. Go check for proof. Net profits falling for 5 consecutive quarters.
6) No dividends given out since year 2012 and most recent given out lousy RM 0.01 only on 20-04-2016. If a company amassed such huge debts, how do u think they will give out dividends with cash balance going to diminish?
2017-01-26 10:20 | Report Abuse
LOL I must have twitched Dolly's nerve today. What happened to u again? Ah...it must be ur Evergreen going down to longkang. Stop accusing me lah I wrote and replied based on factual data from all reports available only. Why u so mad? Was it I revealed Evergreen's huge debts? If I don't talk about it, other people also will mah.
Buy Hevea to regain ur confidence and losses loh.
2017-01-26 08:29 | Report Abuse
If u want to buy stocks based on book value then there are tons of it out there. Homeriz is a a NET CASH company with ZERO DEBTS. No one will buy ur Evergreen lah so save ur gas loh.
2017-01-26 08:20 | Report Abuse
LOL Dolly zai tried to sabotage Homeriz supporters but didn't know it is a solid company. Ha ha!!
2017-01-26 08:19 | Report Abuse
Someone talk nonsense about Hevea without proven basis so I replied that Evergreen supporter loh. Buy Hevea.
2017-01-26 08:14 | Report Abuse
Aiyoo! This stockraider won't quit bitching about everything one lah. U just see him talk about everything everywhere & u know loh. Too bad he's just as annoying as always so most of us will have to put a sign to him.
2017-01-25 19:10 | Report Abuse
If Evergreen's business in MDF is good then why does it need to get into particleboard & RTA leh? MDF business is no good loh. Do u want me reveal why MDF's raw materials pricing is expensive and unstable? Particleboard raw materials is cheaper and more stable. If u ask me, I will explain further. Ha ha!!
2017-01-25 19:09 | Report Abuse
If Evergreen's business in MDF is good then why does it need to get into particleboard & RTA leh? MDF business is no good loh. Do u want me reveal why MDF's raw materials pricing is expensive and unstable? Particleboard raw materials is cheaper and more stable. If u ask me, I will explain further. Ha ha!!
2017-01-25 19:05 | Report Abuse
LOL Hevea is very prudent with it's trades, capex and money management until it can amass a whooping RM 109.79m cash on hand. This has proven it's management is very effective and efficient loh.
846,423,985 shares x RM 0.94 = RM 795,638,546 market cap (EVERGREEN)
507,151,890 shares x RM 1.47 = RM 745,513,278 market cap (HEVEA)
WOW Hevea's market cap is poised to surpass Evergreen loh while having lots of cash and low debts. Great to invest in such company with solid fundamentals. Safe and sound. Can sleep well with price trend upward.
2017-01-25 18:55 | Report Abuse
TNB is a utility company with recurring income streams. How can u compare TNB with Evergreen leh? U are starting to show me that u are an amateur.
Evergreen's good debts? What good debts to be specific? It is a manufacturer & exporter that relies on machinery to churn out saleable products. A manufacturer does not intentionally borrow money to invest in appreciating assets but they mainly borrow to expand production capacity. Get that right in ur head first loh.
I'm disappointed in stockraider once again. I expect u not to be so amateur. Sigh.
2017-01-25 18:15 | Report Abuse
Unlike investment property, machinery depreciates and no capital appreciation. Why u so amateur one leh? LOL
2017-01-25 18:14 | Report Abuse
Aiyooo! Use loans for properties and use loans for business are 2 total different thing loh.
A company borrows loans to do business but when it's earnings decrease and per quarter not enough to cover repayments and other expenses then it will take the company longer time period to repay the loans loh.
Evergreen borrows that huge debts RM 216.585m for property investment meh? LOL don't make me laugh lah stockraider.
2017-01-25 18:04 | Report Abuse
LOL .... stockraider still make not funny jokes.
Hevea's per quarter Net Profit and Profit Margins have exceeded Evergreen loh. Look below the round-up of EVERGREEN and HEVEA profit margin:
EVERGREEN
2012: 3.2%
2013: -4.5%
2014: 0%
2015: 9.1%
2016: 7.3%
HEVEA
2012: 4.1% (Hevea's RTA segment started operation in early of 2012)
2013: 5.7% (Continuation of CAPEX throughout the year for more automation for RTA)
2014: 7.2%
2015: 14.7%
2016: 13.3%
WHY DOES EVERGREEN BEEN SPENDING ON HEAVY CAPEX AVERAGELY RM 30m PER YEAR ALSO BEAR NO FRUITS ?? Hmmmmmm.....THINK THINK
2017-01-25 17:51 | Report Abuse
WOW
3 YEARS JUST TO BREAK-EVEN WITH ALL DEBTS??? That's if everything goes well and the debts interest is not taken into calculation yet.
Sure it will have no choice but to borrow more money to pay dividends if shareholders like stockraider and Dolly are begging for dividends. LOL
2017-01-25 17:49 | Report Abuse
EVERGREEN
Financial quarter 30 Sep 2015: Net Profit 27,586,000
Financial quarter 31 Dec 2015: Net Profit 21,029,000
Financial quarter 31 Mar 2016: Net Profit 20,619,000
Financial quarter 30 Jun 2016: Net Profit 16,459,000
Financial quarter 30 Sep 2016: Net Profit 16,880,000
27.586m + 21.029m + 20.619m + 16.459m + 16.88m = 102.573m
102.573m / 5 = 20.5146m median average of NP for latest 5 quarters
RM 216,585,000 (Total debts) / RM 20,514,600 (NP: Median average) = 10.5x times
That means Evergreen needs at least 10-11 quarters or more just to break-even with the total debts while most competitors are already in net cash position! I have not taken into consideration of the interest charges of the giant debts over RM 216.585m so it will definitely take longer than 12 quarters just to break-even with that mountains of debts.
12 QUARTERS = 3 YEARS needed to break-even with giants of debts. That's if they do everything right & net profit does not fall further per quarter. Remember that it's NP has been falling for 5 consecutive quarters!
*Long-term borrowings interest: If based on 6.85% interest rate. RM 108,952,000 x 6.85% p.a. = RM 7,463,212 p.a.
(RM 7,463,212 p.a. / 12) x 3 months = RM 1,865,803 interest payment to banks per quarter. This will add up to the NP be reduced further hence longer period or more quarters just to break-even with the giant debts!
2017-01-25 17:48 | Report Abuse
This knylck is another ID used by...?? LOL
Okay u want to talk about Evergreen's dividend? So it gives NO DIVIDEND SINCE YEAR 2012 and only gave out RM 0.01 once in 20-04-2016.
WOW u really need more balls to hold it's shares that long because it is stingy with dividends and most likely no dividends anymore because it has amassed huge debts and net profits falling.
IF NOT ENOUGH CASH THEN HOW DOES A COMPANY ABLE TO GIVE OUT DIVIDENDS LEH? MAYBE BORROW MORE MONEY FROM BANKS TO GIVE SWEET DIVIDENDS TO SHAREHOLDERS?
I'VE SHOWN U EVERGREEN DOES NOT EARN ENOUGH TO PARE DOWN DEBTS. LOOK BELOW:
2017-01-25 17:42 | Report Abuse
Evergreen's share price is going down so what else excuses u plan to use next? Always remember that:
"The share price is the reflection of it's fundamentals."
Stock: [EVERGRN]: EVERGREEN FIBREBOARD BHD
2017-02-07 14:40 | Report Abuse
Evergreen never go above 1.00 anymore since it collapsed from 1.60 last year January. If a stock is good, it won't collapse and stay under 1.00 now. It failed due to high debts and lackluster performance just check it's sliding net profits for 5 consecutive quarters and u can know already.
Bibiana, I don't create the results because those are facts. Don't simply listen to half-truths this stubborn Dolly said. He is stuck and he will never tell u anything risky about this company.