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2017-01-15 10:26 | Report Abuse
Aiyo stockraider...why so nervous leh? Oh yes I forgot that Evergreen share price is crashing down again lol. Hevea expanding loh still have lots of cash and net cash with no gearing at all yet. Hevea's RTA segment contributes 60% revenues already & it is selling fast and need to expand quick. The meteoric rise in it's earnings are all due to particleboard and mainly RTA. That is why Hevea has surpassed Evergreen quarterly earnings loh. Look below WOW:
Below as indicated are the round-up of EVERGREEN and HEVEA profit margin:
EVERGREEN
2012: 3.2%
2013: -4.5%
2014: 0%
2015: 9.1%
2016: 7.3%
HEVEA
2012: 4.1% (Hevea's RTA segment started operation in early of 2012)
2013: 5.7% (Continuation of CAPEX throughout the year for more automation for RTA)
2014: 7.2%
2015: 14.7%
2016: 13.3%
EVERGREEN
Medium density fibreboard (MDF): 80% of revenues contribution
Value-added MDF: 15% of revenues contribution
Ready-to-Assemble (RTA): 5% of revenues contribution
HEVEA
Particleboard: 40% of revenues contribution
Ready-to-Assemble (RTA): 60% of revenues contribution
2017-01-14 06:46 | Report Abuse
Dolly zai, if ur entry price for Evergreen is real then ur entire portfolio has ONLY ONE stock in it as shown clearly? WOW no wonder u are so nervous if Evergreen is going down. LOL
2017-01-13 16:25 | Report Abuse
Dolly zai, a win is a win. Hevea has outperformed Evergreen for a very long time.
2017-01-13 16:25 | Report Abuse
Andrewhlc, saltedfish belongs to rubbish bin coz smelly.
2017-01-13 16:23 | Report Abuse
How hard can it be to fabricate screenshots like that? LOL How much time u spent to photoshop that piece?
2017-01-13 16:21 | Report Abuse
Where is ur balls Dolly? Evergreen is worst performing today LOL
2017-01-13 11:09 | Report Abuse
Andrewhlc, correct! Land lease can be renewed. If all leasehold properties in Malaysia cannot be renewed then most people will be homeless. There are more leasehold than freehold assets in Malaysia. 29 years also not enough benefit to company use? How old is stockraider by then? Gone to old folks home loh. Proved to me he is true idiot in i3! LOL
2017-01-13 11:04 | Report Abuse
Evergreen peaked at 1.68 (11-JAN-2016) and descending to 0.735 (01-SEP-2016) and now at 0.985. It lose -41% since it peaked last year. From latest bottom price, it climbs +34% (0.735 -> 0.990).
Plz note that Evergreen is moving in downtrend ALWAYS BELOW 200-MOVING AVERAGE TREND LINE. It tried to break-out 25-OCT-2016 but FAILED & back to downtrend.
Hevea peaked at 1.72 (06-JAN-2016) and descending to 1.02 (30-Aug-2016) and now at 1.53. It lost -11% since it peaked last year. From latest bottom price, it climbs 51% (1.02 -> 1.54)
Hevea break-out on 07-OCT-2016 and entered uptrend above it's 200 MOVING AVERAGE TREND LINE ever since until today.
So, isn't the answer is darn clear already? EVERGREEN is losing and in DOWNTREND MODE while HEVEA is in UPTREND MODE. Cheak, study and see clearly. Obvious is certainty!
2017-01-13 11:04 | Report Abuse
Evergreen peaked at 1.68 (11-JAN-2016) and descending to 0.735 (01-SEP-2016) and now at 0.985. It lose -41% since it peaked last year. From latest bottom price, it climbs +34% (0.735 -> 0.990).
Plz note that Evergreen is moving in downtrend ALWAYS BELOW 200-MOVING AVERAGE TREND LINE. It tried to break-out 25-OCT-2016 but FAILED & back to downtrend.
Hevea peaked at 1.72 (06-JAN-2016) and descending to 1.02 (30-Aug-2016) and now at 1.53. It lost -11% since it peaked last year. From latest bottom price, it climbs 51% (1.02 -> 1.54)
Hevea break-out on 07-OCT-2016 and entered uptrend above it's 200 MOVING AVERAGE TREND LINE ever since until today.
So, isn't the answer is darn clear already? EVERGREEN is losing and in DOWNTREND MODE while HEVEA is in UPTREND MODE. Cheak, study and see clearly. Obvious is certainty!
2017-01-13 10:47 | Report Abuse
You're right. I expect better debate but too bad, stockraider has gone berserk crazy loh. LOL
2017-01-13 10:34 | Report Abuse
U can see that stockraider is getting nervous and losing it in Evergreen. Told him Hevea is a better buy. Can't blame him too because his money is deeply stuck in Evergreen. See how he's gone berserk like crazy LOL
2017-01-13 10:34 | Report Abuse
U can see that stockraider is getting nervous and losing it in Evergreen. Told him Hevea is a better buy. Can't blame him too because his money is deeply stuck in Evergreen. See how he's gone berserk like crazy LOL
2017-01-13 10:25 | Report Abuse
LOL someone so nervous now. How come Hevea share rpice not coming down? How come Evergreen coming down? Answer is this....
The share price trend is a reflection of it's fundamentals
Hevea climbs from 1.02 - 1.58 (+54% gain) WOW
Useless Evergreen from 0.88 - 1.02 (+15%) only?
54% - 15% = Hevea has +39% more than useless Evergreen! WOW
Why useless tortoise Evergreen always drop down below 1.00 one leh?
2017-01-13 10:13 | Report Abuse
Stuck holders flock together loh. LOL
2017-01-13 10:12 | Report Abuse
Eh....not u love talking about share price performance? How lah? I exposed it for ur viewing. So how?
Hevea climbs from 1.02 - 1.58 (+54% gain) WOW
Useless Evergreen from 0.88 - 1.02 (+15%) only?
54% - 15% = Hevea has +39% more than useless Evergreen! WOW
Why useless tortoise Evergreen always drop down below 1.00 one leh?
2017-01-13 10:11 | Report Abuse
Eh....not u love talking about share price performance? How lah? I exposed it for ur viewing. So how?
Hevea climbs from 1.02 - 1.58 (+54% gain) WOW
Useless Evergreen from 0.88 - 1.02 (+15%) only?
54% - 15% = Hevea has +39% more than useless Evergreen! WOW
Why useless tortoise Evergreen always drop down below 1.00 one leh?
2017-01-13 09:40 | Report Abuse
LOL Dolly zai can continue to cheat own self and those who stuck in Evergreen.
If Evergreen is considered steady then Hevea meh is superstar? LOL Hevea climbs from 1.02 - 1.58 (+54% gain) WOW
Useless Evergreen from 0.88 - 1.02 (+15%) only? LOL
54% - 15% = Hevea has +39% more than useless Evergreen! WOW
Why useless tortoise Evergreen always drop down below 1.00 one leh? LOL
2017-01-13 09:39 | Report Abuse
LOL Dolly zai can continue to cheat own self and those who stuck in Evergreen.
If Evergreen is considered steady then Hevea meh is superstar? LOL Hevea climbs from 1.02 - 1.58 (+54% gain) WOW
Useless Evergreen from 0.88 - 1.02 (+15%) only? LOL
54% - 15% = Hevea has +39% more than useless Evergreen! WOW
Why useless tortoise Evergreen always drop down below 1.00 one leh? LOL
2017-01-13 09:31 | Report Abuse
Hevea so strong. No need further to shout also keep climbing. Not like useless Evergreen always depressed. LOL
2017-01-13 09:29 | Report Abuse
Only going higher. Haha!
2017-01-12 13:35 | Report Abuse
Nvm this stockraider loh. He's just nervous because he bet wrong into Evergreen. Just look at the price trend of Evergreen and Hevea. Answer is clear. LOL.
2017-01-12 13:34 | Report Abuse
moneykj, these jokers know they are wasting time holding onto Evergreen shares but it is because they are stuck in it and it cannot rebound so they have to cheer themselves. Just look at the price trend & u can see clearly already. That is why stupid like stockraider talking nonsense nowadays.
Stop cheating own self loh ah stockraider. Later u panic borrow balls from someone. Cannot advise u more loh. LOL
2017-01-12 11:15 | Report Abuse
That is why u don't hold this stock loh. Evergreen will become like this same piece of rubbish.
2017-01-12 11:12 | Report Abuse
As I always said, the share price trend is a reflection of the company's fundamentals.
2017-01-12 11:10 | Report Abuse
KUALA LUMPUR: HeveaBoard Bhd’s subsidiary, HeveaPac Sdn Bhd, has entered into a sale and purchase agreement with its executive director, Yee Kong Yin, to acquire 3.13 ha leasehold vacant land for RM13.46mil.
In a filing with Bursa Malaysia, HeveaBoard said it would build additional factory premises and production facilities on the land located in Seremban to cater for new projects and increasing demand for its products.
“The strategic location of the land which is next to HeveaPac’s existing manufacturing plants will facilitate resources sharing and synergise production capacity.
“The acquisition will enable the company, through HeveaPac, to progressively expand its production capacities to meet the current and future demand for its product,” said HeveaBoard.
The company said the purchase consideration, to be satisfied by cash, was calculated based on a rate of RM40 per sq ft.
It would be financed by internally generated funds (33%) and borrowings (67%) by HeveaPac from banking or financial institution, it said.
The company said the transaction would not have any effect on the issued and paid-up share capital of HeveaBoard or the shareholdings of its substantial shareholders.
It also would not have any material effect on the earnings per share, net assets per share and gearing of the group for the financial year ending Dec 31, 2017. – Bernama
2017-01-11 21:38 | Report Abuse
Lol if like that then why don't u go buy lonbisc, etc which hav share price lower than its NTA & making profits consistently, stupid!
Just remember tht the share price trend is a reflection of its fundamentals.
2017-01-11 21:25 | Report Abuse
Lol so u say Hevea won't go up? The time will come when it just go higher and u will miss the chance.
Remember tht the share price trend is a reflection of its fundamentals.
2017-01-11 15:14 | Report Abuse
For ur info, all other related companies and competitors have their share price gone up higher. Only Evergreen falling. Continue to self-comfort.
2017-01-11 15:13 | Report Abuse
When it falls, jokers come out to defend. Typical scenario. LOL
2017-01-11 11:34 | Report Abuse
Evergreen is collapsing!!
2017-01-11 11:10 | Report Abuse
Just remember that the share price trend is a reflection of a company's fundamental.
2017-01-11 11:09 | Report Abuse
How to get stuck when Hevea has gone up so much since 1.10? Up 50% already
2017-01-11 10:30 | Report Abuse
Stockraider, admit it. U are just very stuck in Evergreen and it is continuously being sold down. Hevea is the winner.
2017-01-11 10:07 | Report Abuse
first stop at 1.84 while rolling
2017-01-11 10:01 | Report Abuse
Share price trend is a reflection of a company's fundamental.
2017-01-11 10:00 | Report Abuse
U must be really blind. Open ur charts bigger & see it. Hevea's share price is on an upward trajectory uptrend while Evergreen is going down the slope. U can continue to cheat your own self. It is still a fact and it continues going that direction.
2017-01-11 09:58 | Report Abuse
R3D3, u must be really blind. Open ur charts bigger & see it. Hevea's share price is on an upward trajectory uptrend while Evergreen is going down the slope. U can continue to cheat your own self. It is still a fact and it continues going that direction.
2017-01-11 09:55 | Report Abuse
Obviously the company does not care much about shareholders interest for those who hold for years because it is not generous with dividends payout. Stopped giving dividends for 3 years. Share price keeps descending.
With capex for years, what have been improved? If profit margins are not improved so how on earth is the company's net profits improved as a result? Other competitors have catch-up and their per quarter earnings have even surpassed that of Evergreen. So this is clear.
Look at the real facts and not to look at where u want it to look like (self-comforting).
2017-01-10 12:03 | Report Abuse
As an investor/shareholder, I only look at whether the company management is doing their best to maximize shareholders returns. All I see is Hevea in net cash position with increasing cash on hand as each quarter goes by. Whatever it earns each quarter is just adding up to it's cash-pile.
On the other hand, Evergreen has took the risks and amassed a significant amount of debts both long-term and short-term borrowings almost equally committed at RM 100m++ each so that makes RM 200m++ in total of borrowings. Do not be over optimistic with the business prospects going forward and if there are hiccups in the coming quarters, it will certainly strain the company's financial position.
U called that buying shares below it's NTA as a margin of safety. The NTA can always drop if it commits more debts along the way. I see only companies with lower or no debts, sufficient cash and having healthy profits & cashflow being better regarded as having margin of safety than the one with huge debts. Doing business and expansion also needs good timing and management.
2017-01-10 12:02 | Report Abuse
Homeriz ranks no.2 after Hevea for solid financial position. Need to see sustainable growth ahead to take charge. Do ur fwd PE estimation and readjust ur positions.
2017-01-10 11:58 | Report Abuse
It will keep rolling till 1.84 as I predicted weeks ago.
2017-01-10 11:40 | Report Abuse
U just look at Hevea's Capex starting from year 2012. Go check their annual reports for proofs. The profit margins were steady and increasing even during capex period. So what the heck has gone wrong with Evergreen even though keep saying Capex for years already??? Can u answer that? Don't try to be smart alec pulling out rubbish numbers again.
HEVEA's profit margins:-
2012: 4.1% (Hevea's RTA segment started operation in early of 2012)
2013: 5.7% (Continuation of CAPEX throughout the year for more automation for RTA)
2014: 7.2%
2015: 14.7%
2016: 13.3%
2017-01-10 11:36 | Report Abuse
Look below dividends payout for Evergreen:
2011: 1.50 sen
2012: 1.00 sen
2013: NONE DIVIDEND
2014: NONE DIVIDEND
2015: 1.00 sen
So stingy one? Rubbish excuses saying Capex for years already! Lousy 1 sen or 1.5 sen dividends? Long wait of share price to rebound is damaging investors confidence already. Still wait ah, Dolly zai?
U analyse and wrote so much also useless. Obviously this company does not care much about shareholders but just give small bits of skittle candies to shareholders to keep going with deteriorating business performance. Look below where the profit margins perform awfully and unstable:
2012: 3.2%
2013: -4.5%
2014: 0%
2015: 9.1%
2016: 7.3%
If capex is well done, it should ensure steady profit margins and net profits over the years. In this case, it is obviously not!
2017-01-09 16:40 | Report Abuse
Go Fxxx off lah stockraider. No one interested with ur babbles here. GO somewhere else to ease ur frustration.
2017-01-09 16:15 | Report Abuse
Don't worry, u secret is safe. I'm only attracted to low debts stocks.
2017-01-09 16:09 | Report Abuse
Then u should tie up ur barking wife at home loh. That way meh no noise loh. Got it?
Stock: [EVERGRN]: EVERGREEN FIBREBOARD BHD
2017-01-15 10:29 | Report Abuse
LOL Dolly has ONE STOCK IN PORTFOLIO or he photoshop a picture to show a gain? LOL