Another round of making money underway in Hevea loh. stockraider, buy more Hevea to recoup ur heavy losses in Evergreen LOL.

Hevea con monies? Where and what to be specifics? Got evidence to back-up ur claims? If don't have then u better stop preaching ur half-truths here to avoid further embarrassment of urself. If Hevea has something to hide, they wouldn't even publish the purchase price of the said land from auction by the director. This is called transparency and nothing to hide loh. Clean and clear mah while doing well. Any other points u want to raise here?

Can sleep soundly with Evergreen? Did u sleep soundly since the year 2012? When was the last time Evergreen paid out dividends? It was in 2012 and halted for years loh. Latest in earlier 2016 only paid RM 0.01 sen. Big joke!

Evergreen won't be able to give anymore dividends for years to come because it has BIG OBLIGATIONS over RM 216,585,000 of debts and it's net profits are shrinking and NP had been falling for FIVE consecutive quarters loh.

Let me analyze and speak out truths and facts. HEVEA has peaked at 1.58 recently and touched down to 1.47 recently too so that is a mere 7.5% retreat from recent peak at 1.58, not a significant number so still regard that as PROFIT TAKING and PRICE RETRACEMENT (*Healthy price movement because no share price is straight up & more importantly the UPTREND is INTACT).

What about EVERGREEN? One thing to say to assure people not to continue stuck in it is.....DOWNTREND is INTACT. HIGH BORROWINGS of RM 216,585,000 WOW!

Let me analyze and speak out truths and facts. HEVEA has peaked at 1.58 recently and touched down to 1.47 recently too so that is a mere 7.5% retreat from recent peak at 1.58, not a significant number so still regard that as PROFIT TAKING and PRICE RETRACEMENT (*Healthy price movement because no share price is straight up & more importantly the UPTREND is INTACT).

What about EVERGREEN? One thing to say to assure people not to continue stuck in it is.....DOWNTREND is INTACT. HIGH BORROWINGS of RM 216,585,000 WOW!

Hevea is one of the BEST PERFORMING export stock. No doubt. Most furniture makers have LOW P/E RATIO usually single digit P/E. Hevea is well below P/E of 10. Continue to buy Hevea because of it's SOLID fundamentals and financial position. Main reasons:

- NET CASH.
- DOUBLE DIGIT PROFIT MARGINS GROWTH per quarter.
- Rapid expansion for RTA by buying & bulding new factory. (*This RTA segment has higher profit margins & that is why kiasu late-comer Evergreen also want to venture into it)

LOL why buy debt-laden Evergreen? It is OVER-RELIANT of ONE PRODUCT SEGMENT that is MDF at 80% revenues. Not diversified. It has RM 216,585,000 of both long-term and short-term debts. U should start to worry by now because Evergreen's share price does not move much & always forever CAPPED BELOW 1.00 MARK.

Hevea is one of the BEST PERFORMING export stock. No doubt. Most furniture makers have LOW P/E RATIO usually single digit P/E. Hevea is well below P/E of 10. Continue to buy Hevea because of it's SOLID fundamentals and financial position. Main reasons:

- NET CASH.
- DOUBLE DIGIT PROFIT MARGINS GROWTH per quarter.
- Rapid expansion for RTA by buying & bulding new factory. (*This RTA segment has higher profit margins & that is why kiasu late-comer Evergreen also want to venture into it)

LOL why buy debt-laden Evergreen? It is OVER-RELIANT of ONE PRODUCT SEGMENT that is MDF at 80% revenues. Not diversified. It has RM 216,585,000 of both long-term and short-term debts. U should start to worry by now because Evergreen's share price does not move much & always forever CAPPED BELOW 1.00 MARK.

Most ppl in Hevea sold at high and buyback for more future profits. Who would hold indefinitely? Ah yes, I forgot u and ur comrades are stuck in Evergreen.

Lovely Hevea always trending up.

Some analysis?
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/candlestick/112850.jsp

Good thing is loser evergreen is not in the list because it has highest debts among all makers and worst is that it is strapped with a whopping RM 216.585m debts! Can buy all others but avoid Evergreen at all cost!

mwbong,

Good thing is loser evergreen is not in the list because it has highest debts among all makers and worst is that it is strapped with a whopping RM 216.585m debts! Can buy all others but avoid Evergreen at all cost!

Good thing is loser evergreen is not in the list because it has highest debts among all makers and worst is that it is strapped with a whopping RM 216.585m debts! Can buy all others but avoid Evergreen at all cost!

stockraider is a loser. I can understand his frustration. LOL

Hevea announces & publishes everything including how much the director bought it from auction years ago. That u called a con? LOL plz try harder to find any case out of it.

He is stuck in Evergreen and dare not even mention it's mountains of DEBTS RM 200m++ LOL.

No wonder Evergreen borrows so much money from banks lah. A giant RM 216,585,000 MILLIONS of DEBTS. It's profit margins are lower than it's peers and competitors. The borrowed money from banks are used to cushion itself. I will do a round-up of all related companies and show u. Ha ha!

1) NO DIVIDENDS SINCE 2012 so not good to hold long-term. Evergreen is already STINGY and NOT GENEROUS. WOW 3/4 years also so stingy. Don't think they will give out dividends with giant of DEBTS right now, check:

Evergreen's latest quarter report announced on "28 Nov 2016":
CASH AND BANK BALANCES 141,018,000
LONG TERM BORROWINGS 108,952,000
SHORT-TERM BORROWINGS 107,633,000
Total debts: 216,585,000
Cash - Total Borrowings = -75,567,000 (*NET DEBTS POSITION)
No. of shares in circulation: 846,423,985 shares
-75,567,000(Net debts) / 846,423,985 shares = *Worth approx. RM (-0.089) per share


2) FIVE CONSECUTIVE QUARTERS OF FALLING NET PROFITS, check:

Hevea
http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Infomation.aspx?securityCode=5095
Evergreen
http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Infomation.aspx?securityCode=5101


3) PROFIT MARGINS ARE HALF OF HEVEA, check the above links.

4) WHY EVERGREEN's PROFIT MARGINS FLUCTUATE SO MUCH AFTER YEARS OF CAPITAL EXPENDITURES (CAPEX)??? Below as indicated are the round-up of EVERGREEN and HEVEA profit margin:

EVERGREEN
2012: 3.2%
2013: -4.5%
2014: 0%
2015: 9.1%
2016: 7.3%

HEVEA
2012: 4.1% (Hevea's RTA segment started operation in early of 2012)
2013: 5.7% (Continuation of CAPEX throughout the year for more automation for RTA)
2014: 7.2%
2015: 14.7%
2016: 13.3%

5) OVER-RELIANT ON ONE PRODUCT SEGMENT THAT IS MDF. WRONG TIME TO DO EXPANSION. INTEREST RATES WILL INCREASE SOON AND IT'S HEFTY DEBTS ARE EXPENSIVE TO SERVICE. Latest recorded revenues by segments of both companies:

EVERGREEN
Medium density fibreboard (MDF): 80% of revenues contribution
Value-added MDF: 15% of revenues contribution
Ready-to-Assemble (RTA): 5% of revenues contribution

HEVEA
Particleboard: 40% of revenues contribution
Ready-to-Assemble (RTA): 60% of revenues contribution

The share price is a reflection of it's fundamentals. Hevea has NO GEARING & in NET CASH of RM 43.278m currently while Evergreen is in net debts of RM 238.501m

238.501m / 43.278m = 5.5 times

WOW Hevea holds real hard cash and Evergreen has 5.5 times the DEBTS of Hevea's cash holdings. Big difference right there. How many quarters are needed for Evergreen to earn and payback the debts? Hevea keeps adding up it's cash-pile. Interesting revelation? Haha!

The share price is a reflection of it's fundamentals. Hevea has NO GEARING & in NET CASH of RM 43.278m currently while Evergreen is in net debts of RM 238.501m

238.501m / 43.278m = 5.5 times

WOW Hevea holds real hard cash and Evergreen has 5.5 times the DEBTS of Hevea's cash holdings. Big difference right there. How many quarters are needed for Evergreen to earn and payback the debts? Hevea keeps adding up it's cash-pile. Interesting revelation? Haha!

Underperforming EVERGREEN has amassed a giant RM 216.585m of debts. NET DEBTS!

WOW Homeriz has ZERO debts and RM 57.017m CASH. NET CASH!
WOW HEVEA has RM 15.111m debts but RM 109.790m CASH. NET CASH!

Spot the BIG difference?? Recognize the facts well. LOL

WOW made more money from Homeriz. Had it for 5 rounds.

Maybe I can edit a new pics of my RHB paltform with my portfolio and show to the world that I have 300% unrealized profits in my account. LOL. Isn't that a beauty of it to show fake proofs just like Dolly zai did? That is why don't believe Dolly loh.

Eh...why is idiot Evergreen5101 still talk blank here? Faster reveal my name & ic since u shouted that u have BALLS & have the info. Quick lah. U got balls or not? LOL

Hevea's financial position is so strong & I have Hevea so why would I bought Evergreen which has amassed giant RM 200m++ of debts? Joker LOL

Why Dolly has no balls to write using own ID but multiple ID? That is because I proved that how easy it is to fake any pics as proof. Continue to write nonsense.

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If u have no new proofs to back-up your claims then plz just make less pollution everywhere.

Dolly zai, u are just stuck in Evergreen and u have ONE stock in ur portfolio. Is that why u are so nervous daily? That is why no one will believe what u defend about Evergreen because u are bias.

What else fake stuff u trying to prove here?

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Someone using different ID to shout. LOL an immature idiot.

Homeriz is strong! Second strongest after Hevea in terms of financial muscle!

Who would create a topic & comment himself? What a loser!

Bring it if u have the balls. Don't bluff & be COWARD OK! I'm waiting. Remember don't use different ID to write...very low life coward LOL

Deal with it! One way or the other, it is sinking lower. Don't keep using different ID everywhere. Coward

WOW speaking of being a loser who lost it all in Daya and Alam. LOL

LOL the loh-lan stockraider stuck high in FLBHD after Evergreen. Self-comfort talk long-term loh.

WOW from the way that Dolly writes, I can assume that he is a poser and liar. Caught him lied last time where he accused Evergreen is not RTA maker but I showed him in Evergreen's own Annual Report. Check that facts before pointing ur fingers ya. This time around, he use some edited rubbish pics to show his portfolio but too bad caught him red handed with ONE STOCK in PORTFOLIO only. LOL

What else fake stuff u trying to prove here?

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The share price is a reflection of it's fundamentals. Hevea has NO GEARING & in NET CASH of RM 43.278m currently while Evergreen is in net debts of RM 238.501m

238.501m / 43.278m = 5.5 times

WOW Hevea holds real hard cash and Evergreen has 5.5 times the DEBTS of Hevea's cash holdings. Big difference right there! How many quarters are needed for Evergreen to earn and payback the debts? Hevea keeps adding up it's cash-pile. Interesting revelation? Haha!

Plz also take note that Hevea's quarterly net profits have surpassed that of Evergreen and this Evergreen has it's net profits falling for FIVE CONSECUTIVE quarters, check & compare the NP at these links:

Hevea
http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Infomation.aspx?securityCode=5095
Evergreen
http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Infomation.aspx?securityCode=5101

A company that discloses everything about the land deals between director and Hevea is still not having integrity or dishonest? LOL what a joke! They can choose not to disclose the real price that director bought it from auction but as a matter of fact that all details are made transparently to the public. Like this also called dodgy ah? WOW.....

Stockraider tries so hard to make a case out of it. Plz try harder but always remember this:

The share price is a reflection of it's fundamentals. Hevea has NO GEARING & in NET CASH of RM 43.278m currently while Evergreen is in net debts of RM 238.501m

238.501m / 43.278m = 5.5 times

WOW Hevea holds real hard cash and Evergreen has 5.5 times the DEBTS of Hevea's cash holdings. Big difference right there. How many quarters are needed for Evergreen to earn and payback the debts? Hevea keeps adding up it's cash-pile. Interesting revelation? Haha!

A desperate selldown has been spotted! Dolly and stockraider are losing it.

It's share price is a reflection of it's fundamentals. SELL

Important is don't hide/deny facts and tell lies. Dolly preach on half-truths and that stockraider amplifying the ideas. This is just bare wrong.

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Do u see how easy to simply edit & upload then shout to the world that i made profits?

Dolly & stockraider are the new dumb & dumber duo.

Dolly zai, do u want me to show u how easy that I can Photoshop modify the picture to show a fake cds account and portfolio? Even if it's true then u hae showed everyone that u have one stock in portfolio only and u are extreme bias. That is why when I started to talk about Evergreen's debts weeks ago, u were furious. LOL

LOL Dolly has ONE STOCK IN PORTFOLIO! And that is EVERGREEN. No wonder u are so nervous about it's price movement daily! Thanks for letting the whole world see it!

Useless stock. Barely moves and always capped under 1.00 that is why should dump all if u hold.

Here u compare it:

INDIVIDUAL QUARTER 3 MONTHS ENDED (*Just 1 quarter)
EVERGREEN Net profit after taxation: 15,692,000
HEVEA Net profit after taxation: 17,233,000
*HEVEA has RM 1,541,000 more net profit after taxes for "latest quarter"

CUMULATIVE QUARTER 9 MONTHS ENDED (*Just 3 quarters combined)
EVERGREEN Net profit after taxation: 51,691,000
HEVEA Net profit after taxation: 52,662,000
*HEVEA has RM 971,000 more net profit after taxes for that "previous 3 quarters combined".

Compare...

EVERGREEN
P/E Normalized: 8.798
ROIC: 9.408%
EPS GROWTH RATE: -3.41%
NET PROFIT MARGIN: 9.294%


HEVEA
P/E Normalized: 11.209
ROIC: 21.282%
EPS GROWTH RATE: 13.803%
NET PROFIT MARGIN: 14.617%


Below as indicated are the round-up of EVERGREEN and HEVEA profit margin:

EVERGREEN
2012: 3.2%
2013: -4.5%
2014: 0%
2015: 9.1%
2016: 7.3%


HEVEA
2012: 4.1% (Hevea's RTA segment started operation in early of 2012)
2013: 5.7% (Continuation of CAPEX throughout the year for more automation for RTA)
2014: 7.2%
2015: 14.7%
2016: 13.3%



Latest recorded revenues by segments of both companies:

EVERGREEN
Medium density fibreboard (MDF): 80% of revenues contribution
Value-added MDF: 15% of revenues contribution
Ready-to-Assemble (RTA): 5% of revenues contribution

HEVEA
Particleboard: 40% of revenues contribution
Ready-to-Assemble (RTA): 60% of revenues contribution



Hevea's latest quarter report announced on 22 Nov 2016.
CASH AND BANK BALANCES 109,790,000
LONG TERM BORROWINGS 6,947,000
SHORT-TERM BORROWINGS 8,164,000
Total debts: 15,111,000
Cash - Total Borrowings = 94,679,000 (*NET CASH POSITION)
No. of shares in circulation: 500,851,890 shares
94,679,000(Net cash) / 500,851,890 shares = *Worth RM (0.189) net cash a piece


Evergreen's latest quarter report announced on 28 Nov 2016.
CASH AND BANK BALANCES 141,018,000
LONG TERM BORROWINGS 108,952,000
SHORT-TERM BORROWINGS 107,633,000
Total debts: 216,585,000
Cash - Total Borrowings = -75,567,000 (*NET DEBTS POSITION)
No. of shares in circulation: 846,423,985 shares
-75,567,000(Net debts) / 846,423,985 shares = *Worth approx. RM (-0.089) per share

The fact is Evergreen has amassed RM 216,585,000 of debts while Hevea is in net cash position. Obvious is certainty in share investment so choose wisely don't get into lots of debts.

No wonder Dolly zai so nervous lah! Let me copy and post here so Dolly cannot cheat later by removing the postings like last time again LOL

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