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2016-12-23 09:44 | Report Abuse
Dolly zai, if u want to promote Evergreen plz go to Evergreen forum. Don't post unnecessary and unrelated things here.
2016-12-23 09:03 | Report Abuse
Rankings and compare:
1. HEVEA: 109,790,000(CASH) - 6,947,000(LTB) - 8,164,000(STB) = 94,679,000 NET CASH
2. LATITUDE: 173,205,000(CASH) - 20,341,000(LTB) - 67,797,000(STB) = 85,067,000 NET CASH
3. LIIHEN: 113,946,000(CASH) - 5,293,000(LTB) - 29,053,000(STB) = 79,600,000 NET CASH
4. HOMERIZ: 57,017,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 0(STB) = 57,017,000 NET CASH
5. SIGN: 71,041,000(CASH) - 18,531,000(LTB) - 2,915,000(STB) = 49,595,000 NET CASH
6. SHH: 31,989,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 6,635,000(STB) = 25,354,000 NET CASH
7. POHUAT: 63,631,298(CASH) - 1,652,965(LTB) - 37,584,812(STB) = 24,393,521 NET CASH
8. FLBHD: 21,716,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 0(STB) = 21,716,000 NET CASH
9. JAYCORP: 35,951,000(CASH) - 7,384,000(LTB) - 11,636,000(STB) = 16,931,000 NET CASH
10. MIECO: 16,905,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 56,153,000(STB) = -39,248,000 NET DEBTS
11. EVERGREEN: 141,018,000(CASH) - 108,952,000(LTB) - 107,633,000(STB) = -75,567,000 NET DEBTS
12. SYF: 1,730,000(CASH) - 51,127,000(LTB) - 64,543,000(STB) = -113,940,000 NET DEBTS
LTB: Long Term Borrowings
STB: Short Term Borrowings
I believe some people will find my efforts to lay out the factual data among all related companies to be useful. Definitely, I'm not buying SYF, EVERGREEN and MIECO. I'm discussing these so that Dolly and friends should not mislead people to think the Evergreen's debts are manageable.
I would say SIGN, HOMERIZ, LIIHEN, LATITUDE and HEVEA are worth to buy especially Homeriz has no borrowings at all.
JAYCORP, FLBHD, POHUAT and SHH are worthy as well especially FLBHD has no borrowings at all.
LIIHEN, LATITUDE and HEVEA are on upper hand. Believe it, the fundamentals of all these companies will be reflected in their share prices eventually. MIECO's share price could possibly be manipulated so beware.
2016-12-23 07:22 | Report Abuse
The reason those people such as Dolly acting like that is because they could not reason it out with facts. I never create anything artificial. If u cannot explain with supporting facts then u should simply admit it.
I believe some people will find my efforts to lay out the factual data among all related companies to be useful. Definitely, I'm not buying SYF, EVERGREEN and MIECO. I'm discussing these so that Dolly and friends should not mislead people to think the Evergreen's debts are manageable.
I would say SIGN, HOMERIZ, LIIHEN, LATITUDE and HEVEA are worth to buy especially Homeriz has no borrowings at all.
JAYCORP, FLBHD, POHUAT and SHH are worthy as well especially FLBHD has no borrowings at all.
LIIHEN, LATITUDE and HEVEA are on upper hand. Believe it, the fundamentals of all these companies will be reflected in their share prices eventually. MIECO's share price could possibly be manipulated so beware.
2016-12-23 07:20 | Report Abuse
Rankings and compare:
1. HEVEA: 109,790,000(CASH) - 6,947,000(LTB) - 8,164,000(STB) = 94,679,000 NET CASH
2. LATITUDE: 173,205,000(CASH) - 20,341,000(LTB) - 67,797,000(STB) = 85,067,000 NET CASH
3. LIIHEN: 113,946,000(CASH) - 5,293,000(LTB) - 29,053,000(STB) = 79,600,000 NET CASH
4. HOMERIZ: 57,017,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 0(STB) = 57,017,000 NET CASH
5. SIGN: 71,041,000(CASH) - 18,531,000(LTB) - 2,915,000(STB) = 49,595,000 NET CASH
6. SHH: 31,989,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 6,635,000(STB) = 25,354,000 NET CASH
7. POHUAT: 63,631,298(CASH) - 1,652,965(LTB) - 37,584,812(STB) = 24,393,521 NET CASH
8. FLBHD: 21,716,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 0(STB) = 21,716,000 NET CASH
9. JAYCORP: 35,951,000(CASH) - 7,384,000(LTB) - 11,636,000(STB) = 16,931,000 NET CASH
10. MIECO: 16,905,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 56,153,000(STB) = -39,248,000 NET DEBTS
11. EVERGREEN: 141,018,000(CASH) - 108,952,000(LTB) - 107,633,000(STB) = -75,567,000 NET DEBTS
12. SYF: 1,730,000(CASH) - 51,127,000(LTB) - 64,543,000(STB) = -113,940,000 NET DEBTS
LTB: Long Term Borrowings
STB: Short Term Borrowings
2016-12-22 16:47 | Report Abuse
Rankings and compare:
1. HEVEA: 109,790,000(CASH) - 6,947,000(LTB) - 8,164,000(STB) = 94,679,000 NET CASH
2. LATITUDE: 173,205,000(CASH) - 20,341,000(LTB) - 67,797,000(STB) = 85,067,000 NET CASH
3. LIIHEN: 113,946,000(CASH) - 5,293,000(LTB) - 29,053,000(STB) = 79,600,000 NET CASH
4. HOMERIZ: 57,017,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 0(STB) = 57,017,000 NET CASH
5. SIGN: 71,041,000(CASH) - 18,531,000(LTB) - 2,915,000(STB) = 49,595,000 NET CASH
6. SHH: 31,989,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 6,635,000(STB) = 25,354,000 NET CASH
7. POHUAT: 63,631,298(CASH) - 1,652,965(LTB) - 37,584,812(STB) = 24,393,521 NET CASH
8. FLBHD: 21,716,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 0(STB) = 21,716,000 NET CASH
9. JAYCORP: 35,951,000(CASH) - 7,384,000(LTB) - 11,636,000(STB) = 16,931,000 NET CASH
10. MIECO: 16,905,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 56,153,000(STB) = -39,248,000 NET DEBTS
11. EVERGREEN: 141,018,000(CASH) - 108,952,000(LTB) - 107,633,000(STB) = -75,567,000 NET DEBTS
12. SYF: 1,730,000(CASH) - 51,127,000(LTB) - 64,543,000(STB) = -113,940,000 NET DEBTS
LTB: Long Term Borrowings
STB: Short Term Borrowings
2016-12-22 16:47 | Report Abuse
Rankings and compare:
1. HEVEA: 109,790,000(CASH) - 6,947,000(LTB) - 8,164,000(STB) = 94,679,000 NET CASH
2. LATITUDE: 173,205,000(CASH) - 20,341,000(LTB) - 67,797,000(STB) = 85,067,000 NET CASH
3. LIIHEN: 113,946,000(CASH) - 5,293,000(LTB) - 29,053,000(STB) = 79,600,000 NET CASH
4. HOMERIZ: 57,017,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 0(STB) = 57,017,000 NET CASH
5. SIGN: 71,041,000(CASH) - 18,531,000(LTB) - 2,915,000(STB) = 49,595,000 NET CASH
6. SHH: 31,989,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 6,635,000(STB) = 25,354,000 NET CASH
7. POHUAT: 63,631,298(CASH) - 1,652,965(LTB) - 37,584,812(STB) = 24,393,521 NET CASH
8. FLBHD: 21,716,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 0(STB) = 21,716,000 NET CASH
9. JAYCORP: 35,951,000(CASH) - 7,384,000(LTB) - 11,636,000(STB) = 16,931,000 NET CASH
10. MIECO: 16,905,000(CASH) - 0(LTB) - 56,153,000(STB) = -39,248,000 NET DEBTS
11. EVERGREEN: 141,018,000(CASH) - 108,952,000(LTB) - 107,633,000(STB) = -75,567,000 NET DEBTS
12. SYF: 1,730,000(CASH) - 51,127,000(LTB) - 64,543,000(STB) = -113,940,000 NET DEBTS
LTB: Long Term Borrowings
STB: Short Term Borrowings
2016-12-22 16:36 | Report Abuse
The reason those people such as Dolly acting like that is because they could not reason it out with facts.
Dolly, what and which points that I lied about? Can u be specific? I never create anything artificial. If u cannot explain with supporting facts then u can should simply admit it.
I believe some people will find my efforts to lay out the factual data among all related companies to be useful. Definitely, I'm not buying SYF, EVERGREEN and MIECO. I'm discussing these so that Dolly and friends should not mislead people to think the Evergreen's debts are manageable.
I would say SIGN, HOMERIZ, LIIHEN, LATITUDE and HEVEA are worth to buy especially Homeriz has no borrowings at all.
JAYCORP, FLBHD, POHUAT and SHH are worthy as well especially FLBHD has no borrowings at all.
LIIHEN, LATITUDE and HEVEA are on upper hand. Believe it, the fundamentals of all these companies will be reflected in their share prices eventually. MIECO's share price could possibly be manipulated so beware.
2016-12-22 16:36 | Report Abuse
I would say SIGN, HOMERIZ, LIIHEN, LATITUDE and HEVEA are worth to buy especially Homeriz has no borrowings at all.
JAYCORP, FLBHD, POHUAT and SHH are worthy as well especially FLBHD has no borrowings at all.
LIIHEN, LATITUDE and HEVEA are on upper hand. Believe it, the fundamentals of all these companies will be reflected in their share prices eventually. MIECO's share price could possibly be manipulated so beware.
2016-12-22 16:27 | Report Abuse
I believe some people will find my efforts to lay out the factual data among all related companies to be useful. Definitely, I'm not buying SYF, EVERGREEN and MIECO. I'm discussing these so that Dolly and friends should not mislead people to think the Evergreen's debts are manageable.
2016-12-22 16:23 | Report Abuse
The reason those people such as Freeasbird or Dolly acting like that is because they could not reason it out with facts.
Dolly, what and which points that I lied about? Can u be specific? I never create anything artificial. If u cannot explain with supporting facts then u can should simply admit it.
2016-12-22 15:50 | Report Abuse
Now comes a new coward Freeasbird? lol I think u can do better than that. STF is the worst but Evergreen has the highest outstanding debts.
2016-12-22 15:47 | Report Abuse
Dolly zai talks too much nonsense without proper discussion. Do u dare to take on what I posted? It's all taken from all latest quarterly reports of all the companies. So if u try to say I'm bluffing then all the companies are cheating???
2016-12-22 15:38 | Report Abuse
Many speak about good debts are good. For a company that is in the business of producing & exporting goods to overseas or locally, it borrowed more debts does not mean it's good because it all depends on the demands and economic situation. When it's inventories rise, it is a sign that it may not be able to sell the produced goods in it's own factories therefore u must look at the numbers carefully in the reports. Evergreen expands the facilities and increase capacities should be more careful especially with it's own total borrowings which is the highest ever among all industry players alike.
There is one thing that caught my eye, why is Evergreen's Long-term debts jumped +88.38% from RM 57.836m to RM 108.952m compared to previous quarter and also could be the increased in cash amounting RM 141.018m is boosted with sudden jumped in Long term borrowings? Plz check very carefully before u reply.
2016-12-22 15:15 | Report Abuse
Dolly zai, seems like u are the one closing ears and eyes and ignoring real facts about Evergreen. Why u double standard one? lol
2016-12-22 15:09 | Report Abuse
U can kiss Evergreen goodbye already. Check it yourself.
2016-12-22 15:04 | Report Abuse
RANKING OF INDEBTNESS:
1. HEVEA 109,790,000 (CASH) - 6,947,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 8,164,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = 94,679,000 NET CASH POSITION
2. LATITUDE 173,205,000 (CASH) - 20,341,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 67,797,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = 85,067,000 NET CASH POSITION
3. LIIHEN 113,946,000 (CASH) - 5,293,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 29,053,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = 79,600,000 NET CASH POSITION
4. HOMERIZ 57,017,000 (CASH) - 0 (LT BORROWINGS) - 0 (ST BORROWINGS) = 57,017,000 NET CASH POSITION
5. SIGN 71,041,000 (CASH) - 18,531,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 2,915,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = 49,595,000 NET CASH POSITION
6. SHH 31,989,000 (CASH) - 0 (LT BORROWINGS) - 6,635,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = 25,354,000 NET CASH POSITION
7. POHUAT 63,631,298 (CASH) - 1,652,965 (LT BORROWINGS) - 37,584,812 (ST BORROWINGS) = 24,393,521 NET CASH POSITION
8. FLBHD 21,716,000 (CASH) - 0 (LT BORROWINGS) - 0 (ST BORROWINGS) = 21,716,000 NET CASH POSITION
9. JAYCORP 35,951,000 (CASH) - 7,384,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 11,636,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = 16,931,000 NET CASH POSITION
10. MIECO 16,905,000 (CASH) - 0 (LT BORROWINGS) - 56,153,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = -39,248,000 NET DEBTS POSITION
11. EVERGREEN 141,018,000 (CASH) - 108,952,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 107,633,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = -75,567,000 NET DEBTS POSITION
12. SYF 1,730,000 (CASH) - 51,127,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 64,543,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = -113,940,000 NET DEBTS POSITION
LT = Long Term
ST = Short Term
Both HOMERIZ and FLBHD have NO BORROWINGS at all and hold lots of cash. Among all, the worst is EVERGREEN which has mountains of debts. LATITUDE is the one holding lots of cash on hand. Which one has the most debts though having the highest market cap? Justifiable? These are very alarming facts. I believe people know how to choose the stocks properly. I will reveal more.....
2016-12-22 15:04 | Report Abuse
RANKING OF INDEBTNESS:
1. HEVEA 109,790,000 (CASH) - 6,947,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 8,164,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = 94,679,000 NET CASH POSITION
2. LATITUDE 173,205,000 (CASH) - 20,341,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 67,797,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = 85,067,000 NET CASH POSITION
3. LIIHEN 113,946,000 (CASH) - 5,293,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 29,053,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = 79,600,000 NET CASH POSITION
4. HOMERIZ 57,017,000 (CASH) - 0 (LT BORROWINGS) - 0 (ST BORROWINGS) = 57,017,000 NET CASH POSITION
5. SIGN 71,041,000 (CASH) - 18,531,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 2,915,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = 49,595,000 NET CASH POSITION
6. SHH 31,989,000 (CASH) - 0 (LT BORROWINGS) - 6,635,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = 25,354,000 NET CASH POSITION
7. POHUAT 63,631,298 (CASH) - 1,652,965 (LT BORROWINGS) - 37,584,812 (ST BORROWINGS) = 24,393,521 NET CASH POSITION
8. FLBHD 21,716,000 (CASH) - 0 (LT BORROWINGS) - 0 (ST BORROWINGS) = 21,716,000 NET CASH POSITION
9. JAYCORP 35,951,000 (CASH) - 7,384,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 11,636,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = 16,931,000 NET CASH POSITION
10. MIECO 16,905,000 (CASH) - 0 (LT BORROWINGS) - 56,153,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = -39,248,000 NET DEBTS POSITION
11. EVERGREEN 141,018,000 (CASH) - 108,952,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 107,633,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = -75,567,000 NET DEBTS POSITION
12. SYF 1,730,000 (CASH) - 51,127,000 (LT BORROWINGS) - 64,543,000 (ST BORROWINGS) = -113,940,000 NET DEBTS POSITION
LT = Long Term
ST = Short Term
Both HOMERIZ and FLBHD have NO BORROWINGS at all and hold lots of cash. Among all, the worst is EVERGREEN which has mountains of debts. LATITUDE is the one holding lots of cash on hand. Which one has the most debts though having the highest market cap? Justifiable? These are very alarming facts. I believe people know how to choose the stocks properly. I will reveal more.....
2016-12-22 08:48 | Report Abuse
Why take the risks of buying into Evergreen which has not paid dividends for 3 years 2013-2015 and it paid only 1 sen dividend in april 2016. Still amassed RM200++ millions of debts. Holding RM140++ millions of cash is a lot? It needs to use the cash to service giant debts & interest charges and expansion plans.
Is Hevea not a better buy? Net cash position with RM100++ millions of cash on hand. Dividends are paid out in 3 to 4 times a year. Hold this not better than something with no dividends? I think it's clear.
2016-12-22 08:47 | Report Abuse
Why take the risks of buying into Evergreen which has not paid dividends for 3 years 2013-2015 and it paid only 1 sen dividend in april 2016. Still amassed RM200++ millions of debts. Holding RM140++ millions of cash is a lot? It needs to use the cash to service giant debts & interest charges and expansion plans.
Is Hevea not a better buy? Net cash position with RM100++ millions of cash on hand. Dividends are paid out in 3 to 4 times a year. Hold this not better than something with no dividends? I think it's clear.
2016-12-21 17:09 | Report Abuse
Unnecessary noises with unrelated comments to the stocks should be ignored and unwritten. Dolly zai is too emotional all the time. Never fall in love with a stock. Ignoring the facts will just get u hurt over and over again.
2016-12-21 16:53 | Report Abuse
Unnecessary noises with unrelated comments to the stocks should be ignored and unwritten. Dolly zai is too emotional all the time. Never fall in love with a stock. Ignoring the facts will just get u hurt over and over again.
2016-12-21 11:29 | Report Abuse
Dolly, people can know what is ur level of intelligence. I give u a chance so plz stop spamming and swearing ok.
2016-12-21 11:24 | Report Abuse
Dolly zai, can u stop spamming the forum with nonsense and non-related comments? Later u got banned then it's too late.
2016-12-21 11:24 | Report Abuse
Dolly zai, can u stop spamming the forum with nonsense and non-related comments? Later u got banned then it's too late.
2016-12-21 11:23 | Report Abuse
Basically particleboards are made from varying types of by-products hence the lower costs and savings whereas MDF requires hardwood materials to complete hence the name density and what are the prices of hardwood? Check here:
http://www.mtib.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=87&Itemid=88&lang=en
2016-12-21 11:19 | Report Abuse
Particleboard can be made and formed into any shapes and sizes by using molding and pressing machinery which means it's versatility is far superior. Cheaper to produced and raw materials are easily obtained (wood chips, sawmill shavings, or even sawdust). Study more on particleboard:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_board
It is more expensive and cumbersome to produce MDF and it requires certain hardwood timber and most timber plantations or replanting schemes are already growing softwood timber trees nowadays. In the future, hardwood will become more scarce. I don't see any plantation companies are planting hardwood trees because it needs a very long time and almost not economically feasible. Learn more also on MDF:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium-density_fibreboard
2016-12-21 11:01 | Report Abuse
How many quarters are needed for Evergreen to earn to payback the giant RM 216,585,000 total debts? Answer is a very long duration. TWO HUNDRED MILLIONS DEBTS is small amount? How much interest the company is paying the financial institutions every month? Have u calculate?
Some people claim Evergreen has shareholders fund? How to use it? Can only use it as more collateral to the banks means more debts inflated? Be practical and logical then u know u should never have talk about it in the first place.
2016-12-21 11:01 | Report Abuse
How many quarters are needed for Evergreen to earn to payback the giant RM 216,585,000 total debts? Answer is a very long duration. TWO HUNDRED MILLIONS DEBTS is small amount? How much interest the company is paying the financial institutions every month? Have u calculate?
Some people claim Evergreen has shareholders fund? How to use it? Can only use it as more collateral to the banks means more debts inflated? Be practical and logical then u know u should never have talk about it in the first place.
2016-12-21 11:01 | Report Abuse
aiyoooo...this Dolly very mahh fann person lol. My previous post showed u already mah. Let me quote out references again.
Evergreen's Annual Report 2015, page 17:
On a longer term Strategy, the Group will be focusing on increasing its production volume for its Ready To Assemble (RTA) Furniture Products as this will enable us to have a wider range of premium products that is able to fetch a higher profit margin on its designs and quality.
Evergreen's Annual Report 2015, page 19:
The Group’s Capital Expenditure allocation for 2016 is budgeted for approximately RM106.0 million mainly for enhancement of our existing Particle Board production line and the refurbishment / relocation of our MDF production plant from Masai, Johor to Segamat, Johor. This is to improve the production efficiency and enjoy a synergistic operation in one location. The upgrading of the Particle Board Press will enable us to produce premium particle boards for specific markets of higher profit margin.
Analysis:
If MDF business is good, Evergreen doesn't need to venture into particleboard and RTA. They are experiencing lower growth due to over-reliant on one segment that is MDF with 80% revenues derived from this segment alone. You can see the MDF profit margin is weaker, volatile and lower as compared to particleboard.
Below as indicated are the round-up of EVERGREEN and HEVEA profit margin:
EVERGREEN
2012: 3.2%
2013: -4.5%
2014: 0%
2015: 9.1%
2016: 7.3%
HEVEA
2012: 4.1% (Hevea's RTA segment started operation in early of 2012)
2013: 5.7% (Continuation of CAPEX throughout the year for more automation for RTA)
2014: 7.2%
2015: 14.7%
2016: 13.3%
EVERGREEN
Medium density fibreboard (MDF): 80% of revenues contribution
Value-added MDF: 15% of revenues contribution
Ready-to-Assemble (RTA): 5% of revenues contribution
HEVEA
Particleboard: 40% of revenues contribution
Ready-to-Assemble (RTA): 60% of revenues contribution
2016-12-21 10:49 | Report Abuse
aiyoooo...this Dolly very mahh fann person lol. My previous post showed u already mah. Let me quote out references again.
Evergreen's Annual Report 2015, page 17:
On a longer term Strategy, the Group will be focusing on increasing its production volume for its Ready To Assemble (RTA) Furniture Products as this will enable us to have a wider range of premium products that is able to fetch a higher profit margin on its designs and quality.
Evergreen's Annual Report 2015, page 19:
The Group’s Capital Expenditure allocation for 2016 is budgeted for approximately RM106.0 million mainly for enhancement of our existing Particle Board production line and the refurbishment / relocation of our MDF production plant from Masai, Johor to Segamat, Johor. This is to improve the production efficiency and enjoy a synergistic operation in one location. The upgrading of the Particle Board Press will enable us to produce premium particle boards for specific markets of higher profit margin.
Analysis:
If MDF business is good, Evergreen doesn't need to venture into particleboard and RTA. They are experiencing lower growth due to over-reliant on one segment that is MDF with 80% revenues derived from this segment alone. You can see the MDF profit margin is weaker, volatile and lower as compared to particleboard.
Below as indicated are the round-up of EVERGREEN and HEVEA profit margin:
EVERGREEN
2012: 3.2%
2013: -4.5%
2014: 0%
2015: 9.1%
2016: 7.3%
HEVEA
2012: 4.1% (Hevea's RTA segment started operation in early of 2012)
2013: 5.7% (Continuation of CAPEX throughout the year for more automation for RTA)
2014: 7.2%
2015: 14.7%
2016: 13.3%
EVERGREEN
Medium density fibreboard (MDF): 80% of revenues contribution
Value-added MDF: 15% of revenues contribution
Ready-to-Assemble (RTA): 5% of revenues contribution
HEVEA
Particleboard: 40% of revenues contribution
Ready-to-Assemble (RTA): 60% of revenues contribution
2016-12-21 10:35 | Report Abuse
frank74, wise words well said! I did not create anything artificial at all and everything I posted are facts. Dolly just upset because I uncovered Evergreen's high debts. RM200++ millions borrowings is not a small amount.
2016-12-21 10:31 | Report Abuse
How can I sabotage if Evergreen is strong as you always cheer on? I didn't create all the debts for Evergreen, right? ALl facts and figures are taken out from quarterly and annual reports mah.
2016-12-21 10:28 | Report Abuse
I'm only interested with discussions related to the stocks. Dolly here prefer to quarrel lol. Stop lah dolly.
2016-12-21 10:27 | Report Abuse
Dolly, plz stop spamming in the forum. U better comment something related to the stocks and stop ur other nonsense comments.
2016-12-21 10:26 | Report Abuse
Dolly, plz stop spamming in the forum. U better comment something related to the stocks and stop ur other nonsense comments.
2016-12-21 10:13 | Report Abuse
See that? Calling names now. Sad case for a person such as Dolly who couldn't reason it out with facts. That shows ur character.
2016-12-21 10:13 | Report Abuse
See that? Calling names now. Sad case for a person such as Dolly who couldn't reason it out with facts. That shows ur character.
2016-12-21 08:42 | Report Abuse
Dolly_chai, believe this: People will find out the truth that u are a joker and a half-filled jar. I've seen how u removed ur post yesterday in Evergreen board just to save ur own face. People can see the timestamp of comments, ok. I just laugh it out and continue to work because finally I realized u are really denying with FACTS which were taken out from quarterly and annual reports of both companies. Be truthful not only to the public but to yourself. Thank u!
2016-12-21 08:32 | Report Abuse
Dolly_chai, so now u are in desperate need to use someone's analysis to defend Evergreen? It's just facts that I've shown everyone here so that people are not misled by half-truth by u and your friends and clones. If u have bought a lot of it's shares, u supposed to share everything not only the good parts of the company but the other risks. If I've never show to the public that Evergreen has amassed RM 200 millions of debt borrowings, will u ever share it out and talk about it? I doubt u would and u never done so indeed.
2016-12-21 08:26 | Report Abuse
Olga is so free to search through the vast number of comments history & cross-referencing them here? Who would take the trouble if not related to the joker? Same joker!
2016-12-21 08:17 | Report Abuse
Dolly_chai, you lied really loudly this time again. You removed your comment after I've shown u they are both RTA makers. Look at the timestamp of my comment (20/12/2016 16:11). After exposing u for removing ur own comments, to save ur own dignity u re-post the comments again. Caught u red-handed! You're a joker!
2016-12-20 19:34 | Report Abuse
Walao.... dolly_Chai, u removed ur comment post ah?? LOL!!!! U scolded me saying tht I don't know Evergreen isn't furniture maker & all. I've quoted references & shown u both Evergreen & Hevea are RTA makers.
Why did u remove ur that comment post leh? So COWARD ah? LMAO!
2016-12-20 16:22 | Report Abuse
Now it has become more obvious these two stockradio and Dolly_chai are just shooting whatever they want and whenever they can without facts to back-up their claims. If u are a half-filled jar/bottle, it's better u check the facts first before u attack, yes? lol
2016-12-20 16:22 | Report Abuse
Now it has become more obvious these two stockradio and Dolly_chai are just shooting whatever they want and whenever they can without facts to back-up their claims. If u are a half-filled jar/bottle, it's better u check the facts first before u attack, yes? lol
2016-12-20 16:11 | Report Abuse
Ah Dolly_chai, Ready-To-Assemble (RTA) is not furniture-making??? Walao!
Hevea's Annual Report 2015, page 3:
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5079141
Our Ready-To-Assemble (“RTA”) furniture sector had also
contributed significantly to the Group. With the additional
capital expenditure (“CAPEX”) towards upgrading, we were
able to further achieve higher automation and a wider range of
higher value product diversifications. With that strategic move,
we expect to be able to mitigate the labour cost increase and
continue to contribute additionally to the Group. The RTA sector
had registered a 15.5% revenue growth to RM293.0 million in
FY 2015, up from RM253.6 million in FY 2014 and a PBT of
RM40.3 million in FY 2015, as compared with RM19.9 million in
FY 2014, an increase of 102.5%
Evergreen's Annual Report 2015, page 17:
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5070781
On a longer term Strategy, the Group will be focusing on increasing its production volume for its Ready To Assemble
(RTA) Furniture Products as this will enable us to have a wider range of premium products that is able to fetch a higher
profit margin on its designs and quality.
2016-12-20 16:10 | Report Abuse
Ah Dolly_chai, Ready-To-Assemble (RTA) is not furniture-making??? Walao!
Hevea's Annual Report 2015, page 3:
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5079141
Our Ready-To-Assemble (“RTA”) furniture sector had also
contributed significantly to the Group. With the additional
capital expenditure (“CAPEX”) towards upgrading, we were
able to further achieve higher automation and a wider range of
higher value product diversifications. With that strategic move,
we expect to be able to mitigate the labour cost increase and
continue to contribute additionally to the Group. The RTA sector
had registered a 15.5% revenue growth to RM293.0 million in
FY 2015, up from RM253.6 million in FY 2014 and a PBT of
RM40.3 million in FY 2015, as compared with RM19.9 million in
FY 2014, an increase of 102.5%
Evergreen's Annual Report 2015, page 17:
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5070781
On a longer term Strategy, the Group will be focusing on increasing its production volume for its Ready To Assemble
(RTA) Furniture Products as this will enable us to have a wider range of premium products that is able to fetch a higher
profit margin on its designs and quality.
2016-12-20 16:01 | Report Abuse
Dolly_chai, u must be trapped in Evergreen at very high costs. It must be so hard on u but don't worry, u will just have to wait another 2 years to get back ur invested sum since Evergreen doesn't pay dividends much.
2016-12-20 15:54 | Report Abuse
Dolly_chai still telling lies again? Apa macam ni? I'm talking about the past? The latest figures are posted by the comapnies just few weeks ago lah. Check mah lol:
28-Nov-2016
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5272277
22-Nov-2016
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5266045
stockradio the one talk things abt 10 years ago lah. Apa macam ni? Dolly_chai and stockradio same same? lol
2016-12-20 15:41 | Report Abuse
Someone shared a good point here before about Donald Trump filed bankruptcy 3 times to protect the interest of his company but who is he today? US president-elect that is.
stockradio can look harder for more excuses to cover-up Evergreen's mountains of debts which stood at RM 215,585,000. What about the rest of the furniture makers listed in KLSE? I think u can choose wisely.
Stock: [EVERGRN]: EVERGREEN FIBREBOARD BHD
2016-12-23 09:52 | Report Abuse
Dolly zai, u failed to promote Evergreen and mislead people into believing it's borrowings is second to none or manageable but in fact Evergreen has the highest borrowings among it's relate-able peers at a whopping RM 216,585,000. You should really see the facts. All figures are taken out from all latest quarterly reports. GO check it yourself.