Lim Kian Leong,
Any fund manager who had underperformed must be answerable to the investors of iCap. Likewise any of your subordinates who had underperformed in their job must avail themselves for questioning by their superiors on their underperformance and future action plan to improve performance.

Leno,
Better get on board ....you can shout out loud BOOOOO CHOOOOW CCCCCCCCCCCCCC AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA after you had cashed out of BJCORP at high price!!!

Hng33 latest info of BJCORP NAV of 1.45 is good fundamental news...
datuk's "other new earnings makers" will turbo boost BJCORP share price up..

Leno,
better get on board...

Nancy Tang,
You invest with your own researched facts/info then decide what to do..to invest or forego... one cannot blame others for investing or not investing...it's your money....it's your decision to make... you make the call...not others..

salman,
Please do always focus on the long term trend of any stocks including DS...just look at the 5 years charts...ask yourself is this stock still in uptrend, downtrend or sideways consolidation...the chart does not lie!!!

DS is now confirmed in DOWNTREND...One should avoid stocks in DOWNTREND as the risk of losing is much more than winning...Be patient...Mr Market will let you know the bottom price of any down trending stock including down trending DS...if you still believe in its fundamentals...for me I do not invest in hope and with hope...I look at the objective facts at hand and ask this simple basic question...

- Is it still in uptrend, if yes is the price toppish or at the high end relative to its low?
- Has it changed trend to downtrend? Is it at start of downtrend or near bottom?
- Has its price bottomed out?
- Is it now in sideways consolidation with upside bias
- Was there a huge volume breakout whilst in consolidation
- Has its fundamentals improved
- Has its biz model improved
- Is it under owned or over owned
- Is there too much expectation built into its price or very little expectation

You can discover what your promoter fears most by observing the means he uses to disparage critics and to entice the unsuspecting and trusting...Nothing succeeds like the appearance of success.... LOL

Fear not those who argue but Fear those who DODGE!!!

"Small minds are much distressed by little things...Great minds see them all but are not disturbed by them....Please do exercise as exercise relieves stress"

There will be a rebound...one should just sell into the rebound..LOL!!!

coffeecup,
I had already communicated weeks ago that the smart astute investors had already got out and the Followers and Losers were still in DS but now they too will soon exit. If any i3 investors had listened then, they could easily have got out at 1.70 to 1.60.The followers and Losers are still investing in DS with HOPE...They should retune their investment mindset to invest with OBJECTIVE FACTS AND ACT UPON THE ODJECTIVE FACT INFO...not rumours that makes one feel good, nice cum having a fantastic dream!!

I will buy a under owned, not popular bombed out stock (with little expectation built into its price)in sideways consolidation or just in trend reversal if I see that its fundamentals had started to improve n will continue to improve further through assets sales/new biz( improving cash, reduce debt, improving EPS, improving NAV, NTA, improving cash flows) or its retuned biz model will empower it to be very cost competitive, efficient and a consistent quality player in its respective industry.

I will not buy into a stock like DS that has too much hype built into its share price and is now confirmed in DOWNTREND. DS has too much expectation built into its share price and the current price downtrend is slowly factoring out the hype...how low it will go...no one knows...let the market tells you the bottom price...the market is ALWAY CORRECT IN TELLING YOU THE BOTTOM PRICE...NOT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE ESPECIALLY THE DS PROMOTERS HERE IN THIS FORUM!!! LOL

DS WAS A GREAT STOCK TO OWN IN 2013 WHEN IT STARTED ITS UPTREND(LITTLE EXPECTATION BUILT INTO ITS SHARE PRICE THEN) BUT NOT NOW ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS TOO MUCH EXPECTATION BUILT INTO ITS PRICE AND DS IS ALSO CONFIRMED IN DOWNTREND..LOL

Auntiex,
MYEG since it reversed trend to UPTREND@63 cents in Aug 2012 had always remained in UPTREND despite the intermittent correction. MYEG NEVER crashed through its long term support at all times. MYEG had ALWAYS REMAINED IN UPTREND TILL NOW.

DS up trended in may 2013 and had remained in uptrend despite intermittent correction until recently when it crashed through its long term support. DS is now in DOWNTREND. MYEG WAS ALWAYS IN UPTREND AT ALL TIMES but not DS.

To reverse current downtrend, DS must stay above 1.66 and go beyond 1.66. At 1.36 DS is definitely in DOWNTREND!!!! So in DOWNTREND stocks like DS, SELL INTO ANY REBOUND.

If DS cannot rebound to 1.66 and stay above 1.66, its downtrend all the way down and its anyone's guess on what will be its bottom price!!!

hng33,
I truly salute you for your detailed work but more importantly your BRILLIANT INCISIVE insights and comments arising from your research work. IF one goes through the management comments in Q2 2014 report , the management of BJCORP had already expressed confidence that the year end report on 30/4/2015 will be GOOD!!!

BJCORP had already started its turnaround starting Q2 2014.It's fundamentals will improve significantly in the near future. That is the reason why I had invested in BJCORP as this is another of my turnaround stock selection. My basis of decision is as follows:
- BJCORP had taken 3 years to bottom out
- It is now in sideways consolidation. The longer the sideways consolidation, the stronger will be the trend reversal
- Its fundamentals started to improve starting Q2 2014 and will improve further in the near future.
- Price Downside at current price levels is VERY LIMITED but PRICE UPSIDE will be quite SIGNIFICANT the longer it consolidates at current price levels

Wayne X Siong,
Sorry I do not agree with you to just leave it to fate...yes last time long ago when there is no sophisticated software, you can always leave it to fate...

Now with technology, You can create your own fate by arming yourself with knowledge on FA and TA to make decision on BUY and SELL! For DS now it is more on usage of TA info to decide on BUY or SELL.

You should take advantage of any rebound in DS to sell into strength as DS is clearly now in DOWNTREND!!!

Cashking, u r free to decide whether u want to cash out of DS ....if u do, you allocate yoyr proposed 100k capital to invest in EVERGREEN n long the stock. U can donate my commission n management fee to any charity of your choice...R u serious in cashing out? The I3 forumers here are the witnesses.

berry, I seems to me that the DS last minute closing at 1.36 had really soothed your nerves and calmed you down and consequently improved your thinking process but lest one gets too carried away with elation on the 1.36 closing(or rather last minute push up) , the negative fact is DS is still in downtrend mode..lol

berry, I am truly amazed that you had shown your true colours...what a great surprise!! .lol

"Small minds are much distressed by little things...Great minds see them all but are not disturbed by them....Please do exercise as exercise relieves stress and nothing relieves exercise" lol

auntiexx, you are free to decide what to do....you are old enough to decide what to do ....do you still need to ask for approval...lol

CashKing, Please by all means Invest as you wish with your vast liquid cash......who is stopping you given the fact that you just appeared in this thread...are you hiding behind your previous identity??

What is the issue here berry? Nobody including me is denying you your right to invest in your chosen counter? Are you feeling OK or not? Why are you feeling so uncomfortable with DS and showing strains of mental anguish and distress??? Are you mentally sound or not?

Sorry...it is basically between you and DS stock that you had bought...you either make profit or lose with DS....that is the real issue...in down trending DS you will most likely lose rather than win...that is the main point I am driving at...there is also a bigger picture here....either you win or the DS promoters win as they have sizeable investment in DS in this thread...It is not whether sunztzhe wins or you win....that is going off the tangent...you better have your objectives and priorities sorted out and aligned in real balance so that you can see the big picture and make a decision ....what matters is that you win over the DS promoters who loves the unsuspecting and trusting i3 forumers here...do you understand what I have just expressed to you???

I addressed to cuticuti and is responding to cuticuti concerns n queries...its between cuticuti and me...sorry I am not responding to you prosperous ...please do have some decent manners and decorum.... it is very bad to eavesdrop...don't you know that ???

cuticuti,
If you have the time please go through the DS threads when I first came into this thread ...my first question is what is the fundamental basis of DS share price intrinsic valuation which no one was able to express ...what is its real intrinsic worth especially when its NTA is so low....what are the driving catalyst for DS future stock price performance but there were zilch info except with occasional narrative of happenings etc...which bores me to tears as I was not getting the real info on the future drivers cum catalyst for DS future stock price performance...

My view is EVERGREEN is a turnaround stock, has more upside potential relative to DS, potentially a 3 bagger and I am well invested with EVERGREEN and I can confidently sleep soundly every night in holding EVERGREEN as long term investment...The management of EVERGREEN had invested significantly to improve and fine tuned its biz model over the years which will empower it to increase revenue, increase profits, improve delivery, produce better quality products and win future market share. EVERGREEN is a buy now at current price or better still when it corrects further. The empowered biz model can easily propel its share up to its previous high and even surpass it as the previous high was based on its old biz model. Please don't take my word as the gospel truth....please do your own research to find out ...and please don't be unduly influenced by the so called DS expert opinions here as there is always an axe to grind for these experts ....

Why are you invested in DS?

You can perfectly swim by your own by all means do so....I am very happy for you.......why do you always occupy your mind with nefarious inconsequential thought perception of other people trying to teach you how to swim?

winterwolf,
So your handsome profits had gone down significantly since 29/10/2014 when DS close at 1.70 ? Is that right?

By giving advise on "don't talk to strangers" you are hoping to slowly sell off your stocks to unsuspecting but trusting i3 investors in this thread?

What are you really afraid of? further selling by i3 investors that further erodes your "UNREALIZED PROFITS" significantly?

When datuk is active in this thread with TP 70 cents, then it is just a matter of time before the stock moves .....

Kikikiki

Humbled,
Do u do online trade or you trade through your remisier? If u trade online, you will have access to stock charts from the security houses

You can start by first have a feel of TA by going to website of google finance KLSE or yahoo finance KLSE and type in any stocks of your choice.. you will be able to see the charts..

The first thing you must understand is whether the stock is on uptrend, downtrend or sideways consolidation by looking at its price against the 200 days MA. If price is below 200 days MA--> its downtrend as in the case of DS. If price is above 200days MA, the stock is on uptrend.

Once stock is on uptrend, you can buy when it retrace at the supports.
Once stock is on downtrend, you should sell immediately at start of downtrend. If you missed out selling on start of downtrend , better sell the stock on its first rebound rather than at later rebounds.

Agree with you 100% sleepingtiger!!!

cuticuti,
Please do not be so narrow minded in not seeing the woods from the trees that a healthy exchange of investment ideas is healthy for honing ones investment views/skill...unless you are telling everyone here that you just want to become an ostrich , bury your head in the sand and become excellent target as barbeque meat for the DS Sharks!!!

hosei,
This stock had already bottomed out. How to kalah when u had already gone in at bottomed price? What is EVERGREEN price at bottom and what is its price now? Do you have any TA software to get this info?

The most important factor in any stocks is...what is its biz model? Will its biz model empower the company to increase revenue, increase profits, produce higher quality products, increase market share further...

With good TA softwares, you will know 100% whether any stock has bottomed out or not.

Pavillion, Are you blinded and retarded in not noticing and admitting that DS had changed trend to DOWNTREND since 29/10/2014?

nordimohd,
R U already into SKPETRO?

hosei and cuticuti,
Please do do a bit of homework starting from 29th October 2014 when DS failed to penetrate its 200days MA on its last final attempt to remain in uptrend mode. Since it failed to penetrate and stay above 200 days MA, DS is in DOWNTREND.

Where was DS price at 29/10/2014? Ans:1.70
What was EVERGREN price at 29/10/2015 ? Ans: 51.5 cents

What is DS price today? Ans: 1.32 --> Down -38 cents
What is EVERGREEN price today? Ans:59 cents--> Up +7.5 cents

you just have to open your eyes to see the REALITY and not still continue to believe in a DREAM of FUEL CARD SUBSIDY etc...Do u 100% know for sure what will be the final bottom price of DS????

DS is already in BEARISH DOWNTREND. Any down trending stocks including DS will result in LOWER HIGHS and LOWER LOWS. One should take opportunity at every rebound to get out rather than get in.DS was an up trending stock in the past BUT now it is a BEARISH DOWNTRENDING STOCK. Do you honestly know at what price will DS bottom out?

EVERGREEN on the other hand is an UPTREDING stock. So any UPTRENDING Stock will result in HIGHER HIGHS and HIGHER LOWS.

When you know that DS is on downtrend, just sell and wait for it to bottom, then you buy back when it had already bottomed. You can buy back same no of shares and still have some cash balance rather than ride DS to the bottom!!!

If one has profits with a stock that is down trending, SELL to lock in profits or SELL to limit loss.

chebicef, They are in love with DS!!! thus the self denial but they don't know that DS does not love them and cannot love them! Now the absolute profits are getting smaller and will get smaller as DS price goes lower or the LOSS is getting bigger and bigger as DS crashes down further. Still loving DS, cannot part with DS by selling DS!!!!

REBOUND means DS will hit a resistance and thereafter resume its DOWNTREND!!!

Why must you convolute your mind with such nefarious inconsequential thoughts that borders on self denial and blind your self away from the REAL FACT THAT DS PRICE HAD CRASHED AND IS NOW ON BEARISH DOWNTREND???
The pertinent question any worried investor of DS should ask is:
- How long with DS downtrend last?
- How low will DS price crash to?
- When will DS resume its uptrend?
- What alternative option should one pursue based on ones conclusion of the above 3 questions

Why do you still want to fall in love with DS when DS cannot even love you even if it wants to????

With its empowered new biz model which gives it the cost competitive edge and the capability and capacity to produce and sell consistent and higher quality products, there is a strong possibility that EVERGREEN will surpass its all time high of RM 1.86 in the future years!!! One should just buy EVERGREEN without any hesitation and long this stock.

optimusR, BJCORP had already bottomed out after it finished its 3 years downtrend from 1.78 to 0.475. As yungshen1 says, if BJCORP breaks RM 0.507 and stays above RM 0.507 it will be on uptrend. Downtrend for DS is just beginning...it will take a long time before DS downtrend ends.....whereas UPTREND for BJCORP can start anytime....why? It has already finished its 3 solid years of downtrend....hahahaha!!!

Don't fall in love with DS as DS will not love you and DS is now in bearish downtrend!!! Once downtrend has started, it will take a long while before it bottom out and thereafter resume its uptrend.

Rule no 1: Don't lose money
Rule no 2: Don't forget rule no 1

Buy stocks in downtrend, high risk of losing money
Buy stocks in uptrend, high chance of making money

DS downtrend started when it failed to breach its 200 days MA on its last final attempt on 29/10/2014. It started its fast descent down starting last Friday and today. Once downtrend has accelerated, it is wise to wait for DS to bottom out if you are still interested in DS. If not find other stocks that has limited downside but huge upside.

DS is already in BEARISH DOWNTREND. It crashed through both its strong support at 1.46 and 1.42 last Friday. Today DS Price crashed through two important supports at 1.37 and 1.34 with very high volume. Current support at 1.31 is very crucial. If 1.31 fails to hold tmrow, the next support will be at 1.25 which is a weak support. If 1.25 is breached, it will find strong support at 1.16.

nordimohd,
You can long SKPETRO dan tidur dgn tenteram tiap tiap malam tanpa risau!!! kikikikiki

Zelan is a great pure construction stock to own for the long term post restructuring. I had already collected Zelan during the 2nd week of October and I am confident the management will be able to deliver the goods in the coming future. Hitting 80 cents to RM 1.00 in the future will not be an insurmountable hurdle for Zelan. I am long Zelan.

Thanks Alpha Trader for the solid recommendation. I have already realized my profit. MEGB will be a great stock to own in the future. Its asset light model will be able to deliver good dividends in the future besides giving future capital appreciation. The financial restructuring is already a done deal and the market price had already factored this. So I rather realized the profit now.

However there will be significant strategic cum operational tasks ahead albeit nitty gritty task in restructuring the organization, recruiting competent teaching personnel and attracting quality students , rebranding, re-marketing, turning the operations around. It will need at least 1 to 1.5 years before it realizes operational profits from its core biz. Moreover, one can always buy the winning horse after its has won the first race!!

God bless and best wishes

yungshen1, These are indeed words of wisdom honed by experience!

Thank you MEGB for the profit and thank you Alpha Trader for your solid recommendation. Good luck everyone!!

Switch to EVERGREEN sean88...You will recover your loss for sure!!!