I want the stupid idiotic commentators to know that every day when VS goes up by 10 sen we are richer by 1.5 million Ringgits because my wife and I own 15 million VS shares.
Sounds familiar?? Yes, this is from your idol who is humble and with Buddha's long ears, according to his beloved fund manager
However, I feel obliged to explain why the few stocks, particularly Jaya Tiasa and Mudajaya did not perform as I expected and a few readers including myself lost money. I am extremely sorry.
I am extremely sorry.
On account of this I Am Sorry, I personally have decided to move on
But... this scheming... deliberate... purposefully.. has got to stop
We are not asking all the readers to believe everything we comment here, but we are urging you guys to think twice of the "pump and dump" methodology used by big crooks. I don't mind if some big players wanna 'koon' people, but stop calling those who expose you as "idiots". you decided to get rich with such level of ethics, then don't be surprised if you get bombarded by criticism (and even curses for those who lost their hard earned money). you have your "noble intentions", so do we here for exposing you (we don't get paid to do so)
Price is price. The price is right forever. Don't sit tight but do work in analysing n filtering before investing in any stock. Don't be swollen headed with your own analysis n don't trust too much your analysis. Observe the market carefully n be decisive when the opportunity arises. Otherwise you have little chance to survive in the stock market.
As a stock market investor, there is no shame in losing money; only some temporary pain hopefully. There is, however, great shame in causing others to lose money especially those who can ill afford losses, through your deliberate actions or inaction. Worse karma for you if your incessant promotion of a stock is a cynical confidence trick to help you unload. Of course a few smart ones may benefit but the majority of followers will get hammered.
Successful stock market investors cannot possibly have noble intentions, the game in the short term is zero sum; win or lose. We are all in it to make some money. Having read through all recent posts here, I get this awful deja vu feeling. The last occasion I experienced it was in 2012 when a senior consultant friend from Genneva Gold was trying to sell me its wealth sharing platform. He refused to believe it was a money scam, the Genneva principals were such wonderfully generous charitable people with a secret gold trading formula, he said. I have not heard from him since Genneva collapsed.
"the buy at your own risk" clause does not give u the license to deliberately spin news for ulterior selfish motives and blame others for "believing" your "noble intentions"!
Murali, though some of us, if not most, really feel like cursing him, lets not get personal here. bear in mind we are just here to state our opinion from another point of view so that other readers can judge 2 sides of the stories. well, we also will not know how long our comments will stay on here, right dear forum admins? :p
Good morning Bsngpg: (1)You never mentioned me, I am jeolous, you said you like lenglui because you thought I am not on your side. Actually, I normally don't choose side, but I always choose to be on your side because I want to change the world around you and me but the world is not important without you, have you realized that: there is no need to change the world without you. Even though you said different things or I said different things, I still think we are still on the same side because I just don't want to live in the world without you.
(3)Sunztzhe "What one says or says on insult is a reflection on oneself...one got to move beyond emotions...emotions will get one no where...." 所有事情都跟別人沒有關係,你會不會像這位孫子講的,一卻的錯誤都是因為你自己反應過度?
@82yrs old and you are still interested in accumulating more wealth...that speaks by itself. go lah enjoy your twilight years (whatever its left) be it in philanthropy or whatever...but not trying to give stock tips la....ppl will never appreciate once a tip turns sour.
Cool down. Not many people willing to pay money to attend course about how to investing. Learn more, so that you have to skill to fishing. It is easy, please search the investing course available. It won't gain anything if keep on thinking "Who Move My Cheese".
Our noble intention to warn newbies about KYY is commendable....we not blaming those recommend what share to buy provided your intention is also noble like us.....KYY at 82 better do charity with noble intention not hookwink new victims front with not so noble intention, brag about making millions. ask newbies to use margin to buy and dump shares that already 60% up....don't come here on your next round of dumping
If you want to follow, check what others say about them. We are here with noble intention to warn newbies specifically targeting KYY only....in the past KYY bankrap a lot of newbies after his Mudajaya and JTiasa....and we grew more suspicious after hiding 7 months he came out with same modus operandi thinking we have all forgoting about his not so noble intention
The different between the big shark and small fish. Big shark eat small fish. The small fish have to learn to hide in the rock so that won't become big shark lunch. I believe there are other expected in the forum can help earn money. So that, please choice what you believe.
Now is actually the time to buy JTiasa because the price has been beaten down. Maybe also Mudajarya, because the prices are beaten down. No down, they belong to rich people company, because now is a good time to collect! They will not go bankrupt. If you are interested now is the time to collect JTiasa, Mudarya, because nobody becomes interested after KYY espisode so they can collect back the share again. Then he repeat the cycle, this time he will tell you, I told you to buy, why didn't you act. You see, or you have no patient. I am not sure about other stock, but JTiasa is a good buy at this current price! Keep for 5 years can make 50%! Now is the time to look for beaten down stocks with rich parent! Not the highly expensive stock!
The owner and the person or syndicate that push the shares are different. The person or syndicate they like to choose this kind of company, the company with rich boss but company share price is beaten down so their cost of purchase is low. They slowly collect over a period of time, rich man stock will not go bankrupt, price is low. This is the kind the stock people like KYY or the syndicate like to choose to push later on and there are a lot of shares floating on the market too so that the boss usually don't care about how the shares are doing at all because the boss is already very rich. This gives the people like KYY and his syndicate a chance to repeat their trick over and over again. Buy in now! Take revenge, this time, they push up, we sell to them!
A stock investor unduly influenced n dictated by emotions in making decisions in stock investment will surely in due time part with their hard earned capital.
I build portfolio, my shares kept for long time, I sell a portion whenever I want to buy some other quantity of shares. I don't trade everyday. I have good emotions everyday, I am also an electrical engineer. I also have a lot of things to do like going out to dance, drink, find girl friends, singing and etc. What a good life! I am seriously thinking of buying JTiasa now, think it is a good buy. Got support at 1.80 (see the one year-graph on bursa website), it is building the "second" leg right now.
Ayamtua, bro, the stock market is not so interesting today. But I am more interested in your writing. So, I am just writing for fun. we are using emotion in seeking both growth and potentiality and that growth is subjective...and...this got me thinking......Of couse growth is subjective to many factors such as sunlight, fertilizers, and milk powder so growth is subjective for a plant. But I haven't heard about growth that is permanent for a human being that is subjected first to emotions. In my opinion, actually growth for a person is not subjective but potential is (the aspect of doing things)is based on growth (our own potential (ability) now and whether it would increase the potential (ability) some more in the future). For a person, not plant, potential is subjective, and you need to know that potential is subjected to growth for a human being. Without past growth, how can you have the potential now to day anything in the first place? Learning comes before growth for a person, and change comes before learning, and mistake comes before learning and so on. All together the human cycle has 5 stages: (1) Mistake (2) Learning (3)Change (4)Growth (5)Potential. and (6) is what others in your life think of you, your reputation and composure. Thanks for sharing on previous post.
john, you are very young is a good thing cos' I wish I am that young too---but i still go dancing and flirting with girls when I have the time. Let me give you an idea what I am doing: have you heard of the chinese saying "知錯能改", I borrow the idea from there. Only that you know what the mistake is then you know how to change right. This is why they said successful people are not afraid of making mistake. And if you hasn't made a mistake, how do you know how to change. Without changing there is no learning of anything at all. Without learning how can you have the knowledge to know what kind of change you need, and no change of couse no growth and increase in potential now and later on. I am writing this just to encourage you that mistake is inevitable, this is part of growing up, that is all. Tell you Mom, I say hi, I live in KL, does she want to learn computing or computer games?
john, to apologize for my idiotic comments and disrespectful and unthoughtful for others' feelings, I am going to reveal to you. I am going to tell you how to be happy in life and be prosperous later on. Step 1: You must not live for yourself (貪) and at the same time you must not live for others (嗔), this is an important mistake that most people make in life (癡). How to avoid being greedy, fear and folly? Make this your first goal in investment, this is how the master do it and this is his first few quote from the Internet. I have a quote from Warren Buffett: 1. "Rule No.1: Never lose money. Rule No.2: Never forget rule No.1"
2. "In a bull market, one must avoid the error of the preening duck that quacks boastfully after a torrential rainstorm, thinking that its paddling skills have caused it to rise in the world. A right-thinking duck would instead compare its position after the downpour to that of the other ducks on the pond."
3. "The fact that people will be full of greed, fear or folly is predictable. The sequence is not predictable."
4. "Be fearful when others are greedy. Be greedy when others are fearful."
My version: (1)Look for something small to you to do: you must protect yourself even in small areas, be very particular even on really small and minute details. (2)You should not think you are better than your competitor in any time of your life and underestimate them. Look for your own mistakes and not others or else you will be angry with other people later on. (3)The same sequence I mentioned to you. (4)Do not be afraid to confront trouble. Act only when there is a trouble, you need to become not afraid of trouble in order to avoid future trouble. (不要怕現在的麻煩你將來才不會有麻煩). That is why mistake is inevitable!
John: fear (Buffett)and angry (mine) is the same. In quote 2 of Warren Buffett, what is the mistake of the stupid duck he was trying to point out, do you know? It is a common mistake: we are either thinking we are damp good ourselves or that we are fear (afraid) to ask question. The duck didn't ask question, john, either, the duck is thinking he is damp good or he is afraid to ask question when he sees that his thinking ( or situation or position)is different than other people. ok!That is why the duck later on become the roasted duck! You see, Warren Buffett's ingenuity from here?
You are perfectly correct. It's a risk we take when we buy and I am thankful for your truthfulness. You have guided many for so long and I hope you will continue to guide us. Please don't lose heart. Many are still tuning in to your blogs.
Posted by Kian Leong Lim > Mar 4, 2015 02:07 PM | Report Abuse
Ayamtua, bro, the stock market is not so interesting today. But I am more interested in your writing. So, I am just writing for fun. we are using emotion in seeking both growth and potentiality and that growth is subjective...and...this got me thinking......Of couse growth is subjective to many factors such as sunlight, fertilizers, and milk powder so growth is subjective for a plant. But I haven't heard about growth that is permanent for a human being that is subjected first to emotions. In my opinion, actually growth for a person is not subjective but potential is (the aspect of doing things)is based on growth (our own potential (ability) now and whether it would increase the potential (ability) some more in the future). For a person, not plant, potential is subjective, and you need to know that potential is subjected to growth for a human being. Without past growth, how can you have the potential now to day anything in the first place? Learning comes before growth for a person, and change comes before learning, and mistake comes before learning and so on. All together the human cycle has 5 stages: (1) Mistake (2) Learning (3)Change (4)Growth (5)Potential. and (6) is what others in your life think of you, your reputation and composure. Thanks for sharing on previous post.
My criteria of investment in stocks is very simple as follows - Right Business Model - Right Management that focus on enhancing the biz model to turnaround the biz, deliver Profits, deliver Increasing Profits , deliver increasing free cash flows - Right entry price
In any market meltdown, one can be greedy when everyone is fearful as one has plenty of opportunities to buy low and wait out to sell high.
As the market rebounded and does a trend reversal, one should buy at relative higher low and sell when the price is near/at/exceed its intrinsic worth
Please do not forget the primary objective of everyone here is to make money. If things do not work accordingly then one must limit one's investment loss immediately to preserve capital. If you do not preserve your capital, you will reduce your capacity for future profitable investment.
I treat stock investment as a business...the stock must make money for me and I do not have any emotional attachment to any stock invested neither do I fall in love with the invested stock.
Mr KYY gave a valuable recommendation on VS recently. How many investors here do the homework(despite Mr KYY recommendation) by asking the following questions - Does VS has the right business model - Does VS has the management that delivers increasing profits - What is the right entry price for VS at that material time??
You are wrong. All here know Ooi Teik Bee was the one that recommended VS and Latitud. KYY only came after both stocks gone up 60% and at the same time take credit for Ooi hard work. Do not hookwink newbies into thinking KYY is noble.
Are you the self appointed leader for the "NEWBIES"?? Who are the newbies ??? Could you name all these newbies?? Have you approached all these newbies personally that you want to be their leader and have all these newbies consented to you that you are their leader? or you just merely appoint yourself as "the leader of newbies"??
This book is the result of the author's many years of experience and observation throughout his 26 years in the stockbroking industry. It was written for general public to learn to invest based on facts and not on fantasies or hearsay....
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Posted by murali > 2015-03-04 08:24 | Report Abuse
I want the stupid idiotic commentators to know that every day when VS goes up by 10 sen we are richer by 1.5 million Ringgits because my wife and I own 15 million VS shares.
Sounds familiar?? Yes, this is from your idol who is humble and with Buddha's long ears, according to his beloved fund manager