Posted by murali > 2015-12-20 08:42 | Report Abuse

Intention not so noble now to ask people keep on buying vs n hevea etc at current prices as prices have increased few times since early this year....unless u expect its earning potential could grow further....

Posted by JT Yeo > 2015-12-20 09:14 | Report Abuse

lol Icon. People can make up their mind if what i said make sense. A stock at one price is 'buy', at another price it is 'hold', and on the another price point it is 'sell'.

Public Bank grows every year as long as I can remember, but buying PBB at RM1 is very different to buying it at RM50.

Posted by Koon Bee > 2015-12-20 09:25 | Report Abuse

OTB ask buy comcorp?

Posted by xuewen66 > 2015-12-20 09:35 | Report Abuse

Jt yeo

Well said

Investing without FA is no different from betting based on luck

Ignoring history is something like throwing away the mirror because you will never look alike tomorrow

"  Posted by JT Yeo > Dec 20, 2015 08:09 AM | Report Abuse 

OTB you are correct it is the future earnings that determined the stock price. But you do notice you didnt explain if future earnings expectation has been priced into the share price. It isn't how much the future growth will be, it is about how much surprise there is.

Posted by xuewen66 > 2015-12-20 10:12 | Report Abuse

What is so difficult?

Bintang is a good example

Posted by xuewen66 > 2015-12-20 10:12 | Report Abuse

I mean bintai

Posted by xuewen66 > 2015-12-20 10:16 | Report Abuse

http://www.klse.my/stock/result/qr/quarter/6998.jsp#stockDetailDiv

Posted by Tkoklin > 2015-12-20 10:36 | Report Abuse

Myr not going stay low forvlever. Use logic a bit mah.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-12-20 10:47 | Report Abuse

that is an interesting case.

Bintai's case is more complicated than you thought. You can only appreciate the nuances if you dig harder.

I said this with a reason, not to flame you.

remember to remind me to write another article about it

Posted by xuewen66 > Dec 20, 2015 10:12 AM | Report Abuse

What is so difficult?

Bintang is a good example

Posted by Tkoklin > 2015-12-20 10:57 | Report Abuse

Stock mkt full of hypocrite. They push up prices and tell u to follow them. Then charge u money to get their advise. They keep saying believe karma. I wait when karma turn to themm. I wish they lose more than 50% of wealth.

Posted by Tkoklin > 2015-12-20 11:02 | Report Abuse

Sam, rgb, vs all these not recommended by icon ok? He is just sifu wannabe. Trying pick up others recommendation n make it his effort. Same like kyy loh. If recommend 100 stocks sure got few hits. The rest he will respond, pls dont blame me, it is your own risk to take.f typical way
A c9nman act.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-12-20 11:30 | Report Abuse

paperplane, you have certain experience, knowledge, wisdom and insights that all of us here are interested to tap into. Unfortunately, you seemed to lack the ability to have a decent conversation with virtually everybody here (due to arrogance, prejudice, cynicism, etc etc, which is a long list)

Until you turn around, you will forever be treated in this forum as a nuisance and a clown.

Will there be a day that you will change and finally be accepted as part of the family ? Only you can decide

(please spare me the denial that you are paperplane, blah blah blah)

=====


Posted by Tkoklin > Dec 20, 2015 10:57 AM | Report Abuse

Stock mkt full of hypocrite. They push up prices and tell u to follow them. Then charge u money to get their advise. They keep saying believe karma. I wait when karma turn to themm. I wish they lose more than 50% of wealth.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2015-12-20 12:04 | Report Abuse

I do not call a buy on VS and Comcorp, I just use the situation to say that future earning is more important than past earning.

I need to do my homework on Comcorp before I decide to recommend this stock. TA had passed my stock selection criteria, I do not know about FA. I need to study it.

I do not buy VS in a big way because the price is high now. I just bought it at 1.50 (small way for coffee money only) because of bonus issue of warrant. I can afford to lose on VS because I had made a lot of money on this stock before. Please do not follow me, I have my own strategy to trade this stock.

RGB - TA is very good, FA failed my stock selection criteria. May be I am wrong, please do not follow me.

Please be informed.
Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by xuewen > 2015-12-20 12:14 | Report Abuse

RGB failed your FA because of low profit margin around 8%

then comintel even worst, it is just around 4%

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2015-12-20 12:32 | Report Abuse

Last 2 quarter results - There is no growth. In fact it is decreasing.
May be I am wrong, please do not follow me.
Thank you.

Posted by PlsGiveBonus > 2015-12-20 12:53 | Report Abuse

EG made 11.5m profit from its EMS division while Comintel manufacturing made 12.58m from their annual report respectively, it is interesting that a smaller company could make more money than a bigger one. However I don't know why Comintel has plenty of money lossing division, and what is the purpose of their existence.

Posted by kk123 > 2015-12-20 13:54 | Report Abuse

Icon cant even get simple things like pe ratio calculated right ..
"Concorp" profit has NOT "baloon".. if any it was balooned by icon himself who annualised it using the highest earnings this qtr..
Icon shld go back to school and at least take a cfa course before he can be fit to write..
Whether what was his motive to "inflate" earnings so that it looks damn good- Pe 3.7x instead of 9-10x as reported by bloomberg..only icon himself will know his "hidden" agenda..
He has also admitted to buying concorp at lower price for this agenda..
So all i can say is monday - good luck - this blog writers this days have little ethics and have hidden agenda..
Beware...
U dont need to subscribe to their services and follow them..this will only enrich these themselves...these are not sifu, they are out to make money ...
Ps..this comments is meant well -so that newbies wont fall for their trap ...

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-12-20 13:58 | Report Abuse

comcorp lah, dude, not concorp

you can't even get the spelling right...

Posted by xuewen66 > 2015-12-20 13:59 | Report Abuse

I agree with otb that Growth plus good fundemental values will decide the market price

Now comintel show little growth some small sifu still claim it will sky rocketing

No wonder people doubt your truthfulness

Please learn from OTB

Be rational and more objective in your comment

The strategy to make coffee money is different from building wealth

Icon, you are my good brother

I always like to read your writing

In fact you have helped me to make quite a lot of money

Now I hentam kuat kuat at your rgb recommendation

My cost is around 0.16, my fair value is 0.28

That why I said if you buy now the mos is around 35%

If you think I am trying to convince you into buying to push up the price

Then forget about it, we are just ikan bilis, we can't do much other than

buy a good company and wait for the fruit

Then what the hell I talk so much rgb here

If you believe then I will tell you

I am just sharing something I think good , nothing else

My intention is HUAT sama sama HUAT

Cabut mesti pandai sendiri

Posted by Koon Bee > 2015-12-20 13:59 | Report Abuse

Those who bad mouth to icon, pls review yourself how good you are compare to icon? How many article have u guys post to benefit the member here? If no, STOP critic on icon sifu...i challenge who so well in critic icon pls participate in 2016 stock pick...all theory in CPA can earn in share in msia?? Dont be childish pls...comcorp at 44 cent, no body entertain me when i shout, when icon post this article at 52 cent, nobody diu him and many ppl asking:: can buy kah?? Hello...now 64 cent come out to rock thr boat, real losing normal human being charactor...bla bla bla sunday

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-12-20 14:05 | Report Abuse

xuewen, dont hentam me dont hentam me

I am writing articles to address the recent contradictions appearing between two different camps of fundamental investors

one article will be published today, the other next week

you read my articles first, then hentam me if you still don't like my stock picks


Posted by xuewen66 > Dec 20, 2015 01:59 PM | Report Abuse

I agree with otb that Growth plus good fundemental values will decide the market price

Now comintel show little growth some small sifu still claim it will sky rocketing

No wonder people doubt your truthfulness

Please learn from OTB

Be rational and more objective in your comment

The strategy to make coffee money is different from building wealth

Icon, you are my good brother

I always like to read your writing

In fact you have helped me to make quite a lot of money

Now I hentam kuat kuat at your rgb recommendation

My cost is around 0.16, my fair value is 0.28

That why I said if you buy now the mos is around 35%

If you think I am trying to convince you into buying to push up the price

Then forget about it, we are just ikan bilis, we can't do much other than

buy a good company and wait for the fruit

Then what the hell I talk so much rgb here

If you believe then I will tell you

I am just sharing something I think good , nothing else

My intention is HUAT sama sama HUAT

Cabut mesti pandai sendiri

Posted by Koon Bee > 2015-12-20 14:05 | Report Abuse

Icon8888, u did a great job from the past to share to us a lots of good article and save our time to spend on research on the company...keep it up sifu..i will always stand in front of u to support you..who critic you without a good point is my enermy, i will whack them

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-12-20 14:12 | Report Abuse

ok ok guys tone it down. Don't fight, we are here to make money.

kk123 you too. Calm down. Get your spelling right then come back again.

We wait for you

Posted by xuewen66 > 2015-12-20 14:15 | Report Abuse

Kk123

I think you something wrong lah..

Icon has done nothing wrong, he is just sharing with us what he is thinking is good

Isn't it very very good to have people like icon telling us what are the the good buys.

Try ask others and see

They will charge you a few hundreds

No money no talk

Icon is good

He provides tip free of charge

Thank you and many thanks to my good brother icon

If Kk123 bad mouth you, I will kick him

Posted by kk123 > 2015-12-20 14:16 | Report Abuse

Also tkoklin is right that some of the stock which icon 'shamelessly" claim credit was not originally recommended by him.. for example ajinomoto was highlighted as a buy by one of the research house early on..
Icon rewrite and shamelessly claim credit that it was his recommendation..what a big joke...
Now you all know who or what icon is...

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-12-20 14:20 | Report Abuse

ok ok good point. Next time if you spot me plagiarising again, please point it out and I will insert a disclaimer inside to give credit to the originator

what is important to me is to make money, I don't crave reputation. Vanity is useless.

no issue, no issue, ha ha

Posted by kk123 > Dec 20, 2015 02:16 PM | Report Abuse

Also tkoklin is right that some of the stock which icon 'shamelessly" claim credit was not originally recommended by him.. for example ajinomoto was highlighted as a buy by one of the research house early on..
Icon rewrite and shamelessly claim credit that it was his recommendation..what a big joke...
Now you all know who or what icon is...

Posted by Koon Bee > 2015-12-20 14:22 | Report Abuse

Icon, no need entertain those ppl like to crictic...continue to post and write good article to us...you hv 20,000 reader that are support u!! You are more or less same level with sifu OTB now

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-12-20 14:24 | Report Abuse

thanks Koon Bee, you make me want to cry... I am so touched... sob sob....

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-12-20 14:25 | Report Abuse

by the way, while you guys were quarrelling, I am busy writing my next article... so much distractions .... haiya...

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-12-20 14:32 | Report Abuse

I see I see, understood...

Actually if hentam me also never mind... I am just a small ciku.. I am used to being hentam.. No problem...

By the way, why are you cross dressing ? xuewen is a female, right ?

You so kinky ah...


Posted by xuewen66 > Dec 20, 2015 02:26 PM | Report Abuse

Icon,

I am you good buddy pisanggoreng

You have mistaken me already

When I said small sifu I do not mean you

Some other long essay writers

Definitely not you

You are my respected sifu in gadang

Posted by kk123 > 2015-12-20 14:32 | Report Abuse

Its pointless to hantam...Monday if "con"-corp goes down..
Many ppl will go hantam their i-"con"
PS.the spellings are correct.
Shameless icon...he has also admit taking others recommendation, and shamelessly claim as his.. what more i need to say? Hahaha

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-12-20 14:35 | Report Abuse

ok ok kk123, good points....

Posted by Koon Bee > 2015-12-20 14:36 | Report Abuse

Kk123...dont talk big and ego la...how is your share pick performance so far?

Posted by Koon Bee > 2015-12-20 14:41 | Report Abuse

You only can lansi like OTB, Kyy and Icon if u hv a good performance like them

Posted by Koon Bee > 2015-12-20 14:43 | Report Abuse

Kk123, i suggest u dont learn like Chicken Calvin Tan Eng which empty drum make the loudest noise

Posted by kk123 > 2015-12-20 15:02 | Report Abuse

Koonbee, i am not some kid who upon reading icon writing , jump in like a wild goose..
my portfolio ytd is up 67%...
The gains largely come from "timing" & trading - buying and selling stocks...
I also trade warrant etc if the timing and condition is right..

Posted by saddiqsepakraga > 2015-12-20 15:04 | Report Abuse

your KSCB how?

Posted by saddiqsepakraga > 2015-12-20 15:04 | Report Abuse

kPSCB

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-12-20 15:08 | Report Abuse

good loh, happy for you

next time write some articles to share ideas lah

Posted by kk123 > Dec 20, 2015 03:02 PM | Report Abuse

Koonbee, i am not some kid who upon reading icon writing , jump in like a wild goose..
my portfolio ytd is up 67%...
The gains largely come from "timing" & trading - buying and selling stocks...
I also trade warrant etc if the timing and condition is right..

Posted by Koon Bee > 2015-12-20 15:11 | Report Abuse

Kk123, any proof or just like chicken calvin sing song and play ping pong story only

Posted by Koon Bee > 2015-12-20 15:13 | Report Abuse

My selection of someone to become my sifu is very strict...only OTB, Kyy, Icon, Murali and Tan Kw can be my sifu for time being based on my TA and FA selection and I spend 12 hours a day to read their comment and work very hard to identify 5 of them

Posted by goody99 > 2015-12-20 15:15 | Report Abuse

kk123, may I know what is the proper way to annualize EPS? Can you show us the calculation? Thank you!

Posted by Koon Bee > 2015-12-20 15:20 | Report Abuse

Kk123...haha...you "terperangkap" by me already when i ask you regarding your performance so far...i m sure many will asking you on your performances liao...how? Answer or not answer also die...kikiki...sing song and play ping pong..today is sunday bla bla bla

Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2015-12-20 15:33 | Report Abuse

Tilapia bro...

I envy u so much lo... U are so calm and open heart... LIKE u....

I know one guy very calm and really 心静大师 he is Mr. Lim at AMPROP thread.. I always talk to him and now I am a little bit calm liao...

WELL DONE bro..... can see u do pretty well in "ignoring"......

Next time when ppl shoot u then U jz say:
YES, I copy from others
YES, I claim credit and also DEBIT
Yes, I have poor performance which is negative 80% this year
Yes, you are right I'm jz beginner
Yes, bla bla black sheep is the best....

and lan-lain


Posted by Icon8888 > Dec 20, 2015 02:35 PM | Report Abuse

ok ok kk123, good points....

Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2015-12-20 15:34 | Report Abuse

Koon Bee bro,

U smart as usual... Know how to dig hole. Good one

Posted by pisanggoreng > 2015-12-20 15:52 | Report Abuse

Hi duit

Jim pa boi

Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2015-12-20 15:54 | Report Abuse

pisanggoreng..

need ur help..can U goreng more pisang or sell more cempedak goreng... so CPO price can shoot up and we sama sama push up GENTING PLantation and TDM for 35%............

can or not??

Posted by pisanggoreng > 2015-12-20 15:57 | Report Abuse

Now year end already

Don't want to gao-gao-chan

Want want close account kira untung

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-12-20 15:57 | Report Abuse

thanks Duit for your moral support !

Posted by Koon Bee > 2015-12-20 15:59 | Report Abuse

Duit, you want become my sifu? My selection criteria of my sifu very strict one and i spend 12 hours a day to read my sifu comment