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duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 09:00 | Report Abuse

YiStock..

Plain English pls.. I also cant "kait" itu elder son.....

YiStock

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Posted by YiStock > 2016-07-29 09:02 | Report Abuse

hmm... duit, understand. they are people like that. OK. Cheers

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 09:02 | Report Abuse

By theory YES.

However, when there is very obvious SELL ON NEWS themed play and LENDER knew if he did not sell other will sell. Might as well don't sit idle but do something. This is my thinking.


Posted by YiStock > Jul 29, 2016 08:57 AM | Report Abuse

Duit, if point 2 is the key, if lender believe the counter will eventually show good figures, the share price will likely surplus RM 4 right? the paper value will be greater if not forcing (by short sell) the share price to dive. It is burn own pocket.

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 09:08 | Report Abuse

YiStock...

Cannot mention 2 counters I meet up their Major shareholder (owner) frequently......... both also billion Revenue company with perfect CAGR for last 10 years.

Let give U clear historical example.
One stock use 1.5 year to climb from RM3.5 to RM4.5
on news they sell on news and owner press down to RM3.98 with small money but retailers panicking dispose and make it landslide to RM3.60.

Owner bought back big sum and the share price rise back to RM4.50 after 5 months.

Key points here: Last time use 1.5 yr to earn RM1... Now use 5 months gain bigger money (because shares unit become BIGGER). This is not the example of short selling but to share why "owner" wan to burn his own pocket money. In fact, what we see is because we never factor in timeline concept.

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 09:15 | Report Abuse

YiStock...

yup.. I still believe in value investment. short term and mid term is for fun only..... I am very FA based........ but discuss more short term in i3 (to suit major appetite)..........

I never see short term or mid term investors enter Forbes Top 100 Richest Billionaire.... Forever will not believe it.

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 09:17 | Report Abuse

YiStock bro..

Thanks for valuable discussion.. I benefit a lot from ur article..... Like ssoojinhau , your, kc chong and RicheHo type article......

appreciate it.... hope I can learn more from U...

cheers

Posted by bichrome84 > 2016-07-29 09:34 | Report Abuse

thought short seliing is illegal in malaysia

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 09:39 | Report Abuse

we small bilis cannot do ma

connie

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Posted by connie > 2016-07-29 09:57 | Report Abuse

duit, nice pics of holland and good explanation on short selling !

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 09:59 | Report Abuse

alamakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

only eyeing my tulips only ar???? never aim my small canal meh???

scare die me

Undi_PAS

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Posted by Undi_PAS > 2016-07-29 10:04 | Report Abuse

That's why PAS so against gambling whether in casino or Bursa. For someone to gain(short sellers) someone else must lose. If you are losing party will you be happy? Hence under BN a lot of shooting cases or commit suicides recently. It could be gambling related although unspecified.

YiStock

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Posted by YiStock > 2016-07-29 10:06 | Report Abuse

Duit, thinking back, your above article maybe more relevant to your below scenario.

"taking advantage of retailer fearful mindset..人丢我丢。。自己吓死自己"

Initially i thought short sell = buy "short"


duitKWSPkita: YiStock...

Cannot mention 2 counters I meet up their Major shareholder (owner) frequently......... both also billion Revenue company with perfect CAGR for last 10 years.

Let give U clear historical example.
One stock use 1.5 year to climb from RM3.5 to RM4.5
on news they sell on news and owner press down to RM3.98 with small money but retailers panicking dispose and make it landslide to RM3.60.

Owner bought back big sum and the share price rise back to RM4.50 after 5 months.

Key points here: Last time use 1.5 yr to earn RM1... Now use 5 months gain bigger money (because shares unit become BIGGER). This is not the example of short selling but to share why "owner" wan to burn his own pocket money. In fact, what we see is because we never factor in timeline concept.

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 10:08 | Report Abuse

demi kesejahteraan hidup

I sokong dan undi PAS

Posted by Undi_PAS > Jul 29, 2016 10:04 AM | Report Abuse

That's why PAS so against gambling whether in casino or Bursa. For someone to gain(short sellers) someone else must lose. If you are losing party will you be happy? Hence under BN a lot of shooting cases or commit suicides recently. It could be gambling related although unspecified.

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 10:11 | Report Abuse

YiStock..

通常小股民还没输死时都是被吓死或玩死

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 10:15 | Report Abuse

后者 比较多。

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 10:17 | Report Abuse

盲目 买的, 肯定玩蛋。
人家 可是 有计划 做足 准备 来 jiao ikan bilis 的。
Kontra kakis 更不用说了。

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 10:20 | Report Abuse

也算 是 一种 Art of ' jiao完松' 吧。

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 12:03 | Report Abuse

Hahahahah

dreamer74

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Posted by dreamer74 > 2016-07-30 08:33 | Report Abuse

Thanks duit very informative. I think if going for long haul that wouldn't affect much ; only kena contra kakis that glued on the screen. BTW I dun vote PAS regressive party which shed no light on advancement or development.

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