When investing into any share market, ... My rules: 1. consider the monies that you invested is gone 2. expect losses 3. don't be greedy 4. if you are not sure, don't buy or sell 5. missed the best price, so to hell with it. 6. use our brain if we have one or two 7. remember, get a life 8. still not sure, invest in the Fixed Deposit which is guaranteed by the BNM 9. still not sure again, work, enjoy life, and stay healthy. Just My Humble Opinions
andychucky28, I understand. The most important issue is earn as much as you can for yourself and family. If possible assist those on forum too. Eff the gov for all I care.
is the same play like ping pong......goreng counter is always a goreng gimmick....very high swing it will be.....just stick to what eye can see... big ping pong show within 20-25sen last week back..........
Posted by nomanland > Jun 21, 2014 09:42 AM | Report Abuse
Very simple economy. If both Khazanah and MAS kick the bucket, the rest GLC that linked to them will be following them to Zimbabwe. Every skin coloured in the country will be in deep sh!t. Don't assumed those people working there are a bunch of a$$e$. I doubt they will be making another effing mistake again. JMHO
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investor only fundamental:
1. the goverment 2. khazanah 3. MAS national carrier 4. GLC / cronies
the outcome of AGM...... will show further. if MAS = Bye Bye....... how many employees will be jobless and flood the streets....high time for them to pull up their socks.
Very small market. 30millions plus of souls in Malaysia. If MAS + Khazanah = kick the bucket. it will create one biggest hell of change of events.
Think about these chain reaction. 1. currently paying for car installment, how many will default payments? 2. what about houses installment? 3. how many companies rely on credit to do business? 4. with the current level of salary they have, how many months can the employees survive? 5. too many .....
If we don't support the company, too bad, sayonara to the whole country is the best word. IT IS A MULTIPLE CHANGE OF EFFECTS. Those talk nonsense will get affected and have no ideas what hit them. Solution: Change the management + gov + employee's attitude. Just My Humble Opinion
I dont think anybody in the right frame of mind want to get rid of the employees. The employees wages are only the tip of the iceberg, overstaffing can be gradually reduced with VSS is not an issue at all.Please be informed Mas spents a lot of money to train the staff n we need experienced staff to manage a complicated aviation company. I blame the Govt for the MH370 n not the employees. The govt should talk of efficiency at all Govt Dept as well as the GLC related companies. Lately you would read in the media that GLC companies returns are not good as the private companies although they have been on the job for donkey years (A good example is UP/IOI/KLK shares are above RM25 n Sime/FGV is much lower then that and what is the Govt doing about it).I was told the executives n above of MAS r highly paid which need addressing. Bonus is paid from the profit but last bonus was paid because of GE which makes no sense. So all have to work hard for the company to make profit to qualify for bonus. Mas must be managed without Govt interference, too many cronies are involved with corruption. PAC should audit Mas thoroughly and expose the wrongdoing.PM wants Khazanah is doing diligence study n will come out with proposals but why now, all this while what have they been doing. Being a national airline Khazanah can keep the golden share n sell the company to like Etihad etc. Mas is highly in debts so here common sense will tell any buyer for MAS may want to buy cheaply to overcome the debts. MB have given a fair value for Mas as "19cts"..ppl r speculating for a much higher price?.
The fair value by MB is based on NTA value of MAS that is 19 cts. The buyer if any will go to the bank for loan n the loan will be based on NTA value or MAS itself want to revamp the company themselves which all this years not be able to do it appears a joke to the man in the street suddenly perhaps they may be growing horns now.
@Ring, agree without much disagreement about MAS. Still, I will just invest it for long term purposes. As stated, whatever I invested into any share counters or any businesses, I already considered it as gone, lost, or whatever. If only if that counter does bring some fruit in near future, off cause I will be glad. I don't have any pressure or worried. And on top of everything, I spread my investment to many counters. Some gain, some lost. If I still think the particular counter isn't doing what I am expecting, well, I just cut lose or gain. Life is to short too worried about every damn thing in this small world. Cheers to you.
mas has all the publicity nowadays compare to any other stocks in entire bursa - either good or bad .. thats the crust of the game ! look into bigger picture .. kikiki
hard to imagine MAS delisted ... either way the gov will do something , somebody might buy it - the question are you willing to wait that long? if MAS dies, all other GLC linked counters may have repercussions ....... being 69% largest shareholding - Khazanah will find a way ... either way one look it on a bigger picture ... still MAS can break and make it ... not convinced? take a flight to zimbabwe or holland enjoy the view ... this will sure ease the anxiety ha.. ha.. ha
up down up down 2014/2015: 0.170 - 0.500 - 0.900 (catalyst news, rumours etc)
too many news for MAS now ..... to let it die .......
Old Chicken, ditto. "... if MAS dies, all other GLC linked counters may have repercussions ... " + all those people or businesses that deal with them + your EPF monies.
MAS not like any kedai mamak tepi jalan can change anytime, not even close to oil and gas counter, or any other counters except aax and aasia .. if aax or aasia gone orang tak heran if MAS gone? people heran ... so many life (mh370) and monies lost (genuine investors) either somebody or something will keep MAS alive ..... tukar nama, tukar strategies , tukar baju ... most what they can do ........ end of the day MAS will always stay ..
question is : are you small ikan bilis like you and me with no deep pockets willing to wait long while seeing other counters moving? kikikii
mas is like cancer located at vital organs .. how to remove own heart if that only one have? imagine aax, airasia as artificial heart or organ ... kikikki
Beginner1989, 1. short term side way for awhile 0.20-0.240 2. medium term 0.240-0.280, might go up(assume some little bits of good new) 3. medium term again 0.240-0.500++ if someone find the 370's toilet sit 4. long term, around 0.800-1.00++ 5. long term again 3.00++ if someone find the 370 6. worst term, Ah jib kor confirm MAS file bankruptcy. 7. worst term again, another missing plane. 8. worst come to worst, buy and lose the investment. 9. come to a term where you have to decide what is the best price range that you want to get out. 10. nomanland has no term, just a nuts case or crazy effer! (check google for the meaning of "eff") 11. come to a term again, we all need a better life then a share market. 12. all the best to MAS investors. Win or lose is just a game. Don't worry and be happy. Cheers to you all.
put it this way, mas just like living with your bad ass super rich mother in law ... a hate and love relationships ha ha ha .. you love it, you hate it - still that rich mother in law lived ... ha ha ha
Old chicken, have lots of counters to monitor. MAS is one of the counter that I am more interested. My guts feeling is telling me, this counter has a good future. I am looking forward at about 1.5 to 3 years. Me worried, nah.
simply because ini Malaysia .. bolehland... all other counters no matter how rock solid ... can go kaput but not MAS - most what they can do restructure, tukar nama, tukar baju ..... how to close MAS shop when its already part of the system? even MAS trading volumes accounted for KLCI trading volumes last week .. lmao .. kikiki
nomanland and ayamtua. i was thinking the worst case scenario last night if it drops to 0.15. i will buy more if it drops to 0.15. I invested 2000 lots inside now.
again look on better picture: MAS unlike any other stock - either hate it or love it ... it needs to be repair by the Gov ..... either way MAS will not end at 0.05 or 0.220 .. worst case scenario, being sold off or privatize thus - either way still goes up... at least more than 0.300 because of brand name and yea - our national carrier ..
if your pakatan rakyat fan .. you have no choice but to support barisan all the way now if you're invested in MAS .. because you will thanked BN to keep MAS alive hahahhaa - just kidding about that part
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Posted by andychucky28 > 2014-06-21 09:50 | Report Abuse
It is very simple, before bolehland kick the backet, it will drag all of you down first, like what they are doing now.