Posted by KC Loh > 2012-07-11 17:44 | Report Abuse

for all Datuk's (and his doppelgangers) rhetorics, Sozo still didnt breach the Rm0.60 mark. Pity all those who speculated.

6 month tracking by Bloomberg:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1p9ozvtpmo13wn4/SOZO-Bursa%20Malays%20Stock%20Chart%20-%20Sozo%20Global%20Ltd%20-%20Bloomberg.png

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-11 17:45 | Report Abuse

KC Loh....great thing come slow mah.......sozo

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-11 17:48 | Report Abuse

honestly speaking...my average holding cost at rm0.515....with 3.8 cents divident.....combine ROIC....approxi..15% ....beh pailah....also...since i bot HB ....luck with me a bit...never really come down to below my acqisition costleh...okalah !!!

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-07-11 17:49 | Report Abuse

i think so too. but therein lies the uncertainty with Chinese accounting valuation.

Hope you don't drag many down with your fanaticism of Sozo.

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-11 17:51 | Report Abuse

fair comment........it's at my own risk....and reward....my wealth formula is quite simple....think big....act decisively, be a contrarian....iron confident level!!!!

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-11 17:52 | Report Abuse

i think i made more money than most of the blogger in bursa...at least my profit at 8 digits acorss 2 decade...

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-07-11 18:00 | Report Abuse

That's fine datuk, but please be aware that sometimes, irresponsible comments like yours and many others who are merely punters, destroy livelihood of others.

As a value investor myself, i believe in the code to help each other, but not tear others for our own selfish motives. The market is large enough for everyone to gain irrespective of 8 or 15 digits profits. If you dont wish to share anything you know, that is fine! but dont make people speculate on hearsay comments.

i dont have any ill-will with anyone, being new here myself. I find that if i have nothing good to share, just keep it to myself then.

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-11 18:03 | Report Abuse

1) i dun think i can made what i have 2day if i'm not a
fanatic....

2) i dun think i can made what i have 2day if i dun understand the real accounting system...


3) i dun think i can made what i have if i dun understand the business model in stock that i had invested......

4) I dun think i can made what i have if i dun have any insider friend that run the comapany.....

5) i dun think i can made what i have if i m not owned a vision that average investor dun inherited...

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-07-11 18:05 | Report Abuse

good points, especially no.4 LoL. All the best to you again nonetheless! :)

Posted by Namoyaki Takarajima > 2012-07-11 18:57 | Report Abuse

Halo DATOK! all your statements from No.1 to No.5 start with 'I dun'; Hah!!!, You are sure later to be 'ADUN' lah Datok!

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 08:38 | Report Abuse

Oh ya!! Namoyaki...at least you are able to see it....yes, i m adun of HB global limited.....hehehehehe

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 08:54 | Report Abuse

KC LOh....i think you must be insane or newbie in bursa.....how can ounter be able to make 8 digits profit across the last 20 years??????

Punters and speculators will be the ultimate loserlah!!!

Honestly speaking, nearly all of my profit were made from the growth in profit from the companies i invested....not on the price difference alone!!!

Your comments were really irresponsible; not mine!!! Did i ever tell people to speculate here or be a contra player??? Not at all!!!

However, i can accept your comment if my joke hurt you one way or another.....BTW, are you a female??? Otherwise, your remark on my irresponsible comment deserve a shot !!! hehehehe

Posted by limpek4896 > 2012-07-12 10:56 | Report Abuse

WOW,DATUK,NICE ,U NOT JUST GOOD INVESTED,ALSO NICE TO SHOT SOMEONE,

Posted by limpek4896 > 2012-07-12 11:01 | Report Abuse

datuk,tak payah buang masa dengan dia,penting sekali kita dapat cari wang disini,alway is winner,
datuk ,sozo just wait for u support,come,make it rm0.60

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 11:19 | Report Abuse

Hi Limpek...i got already 2552.6KK units on HB global limited...i think it's enough for me....rm97K to be received in early oct. kau liewlah......but if the price come down below rm0.54....perhaps...will buy another 1000KK....lepas tu no more...

BTW......i better give you the real answer why i most of the lenloi like LCL or equivalent were hainam rang....

Becos.....all of them share the same charecteristic as hainam rang...got a lot of HOng (pronounce in hokkian)....hainam hong !!!!hehehehe

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-07-12 11:20 | Report Abuse

Datuk, I do suggest you read my previous replies and not get into name calling. I think you are the one hurt.

Anyway, there are gaps about what you post. Reading from your postings from first til now. You said your average investment in sozo comes to 0.515 when you have been saying your purchases by the hundreds of thousands are in the region of 0.53-05.555. Unless you purchased many around the region of 0.48 back then in October last year, how does your holding average it out? For someone who likes to mention his purchases as how your postings go, its rather puzzling you made no mention of your purchases back in October. If I did make wrong assumption, then I am sorry.

I find it no point to get into verbal jaustling with neither you nor limpek4896 because it leads to pointless and probably long drawn end. So, I will take my leave from here onwards and will not reply to anymore taunting both of you (and any of your followers) can afford. If, future comments are helpful and mature, I am more than happy to discuss it like gentlemen would.

Wish you a pleasant day ahead and prosperity in your trading and claims!

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 11:28 | Report Abuse

KC LOh...okayleh......pu yau seow zhileh....kan kita jantan semua with the same hobbies....making $ enough and wealthy enough for indulging in "hole" satisfaction

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 11:30 | Report Abuse

Limpek....teo bo??

Posted by Yuzuki > 2012-07-12 11:35 | Report Abuse

lol datuk "the HOLE truth & nothing but the truth"

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 11:35 | Report Abuse

i think KC Loh must be hainam rang.......with unpredictable "hong"...hehehehehehe

Posted by limpek4896 > 2012-07-12 11:39 | Report Abuse

very teo,datuk but don teo hong

Posted by Yuzuki > 2012-07-12 11:39 | Report Abuse

A real "hole"ly man lol

Posted by limpek4896 > 2012-07-12 11:50 | Report Abuse

kcloh,just see the right way.why we can earn alot money ,not coz just me lucky.and datuk can make 8 digit for 20 year.i am not follower,but i know datuk same with me,tiap tiap hari kena do homework

Posted by limpek4896 > 2012-07-12 11:54 | Report Abuse

sozo is one of good counter,earning rm0.25 per year,dividen more then 7% and low PE plus the shares prices is lower

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 11:57 | Report Abuse

Bother Yuzuki....mana lu pirgi???tak nampak lama....ada ong with other ctr bo??

Sozo might be erupted on next monday after no long "sozo" but HB...Hong Boa ...wow ruby !!!! Hoped myself bo teo hong !! heheehe

Posted by limpek4896 > 2012-07-12 12:01 | Report Abuse

hahaha,hope this peking roaster duck can fly.hahahahahaha

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 12:11 | Report Abuse

Limpek....if not bad percetion on chinese companies....do u think we can owned HB at the current price ranges with that earning and cash on hand???

Fake accounting won't happend in HB....that i cam assured you...

FYI....i had spotted Transmile with fake accounting much earlier
than reported becos the growth in top line and account receivable didn't match with cash position and cash flow direction.....even sage investor like sugar king and PB mutual were also the victim of fake accounting

Cash position and cash flow are the ultimate indicators for decising accounting scam...

Megam media is another typical company on fake accounting....Perhaps i will write an article to assist investor to spot lau chian kosi....hehehe

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-07-12 12:15 | Report Abuse

Datuk, I am cool. My objective is to make intelligent investments, not getting into forum debate. Yes, i do feel i need to speak out sometimes if things are not making sense. Call it moral obligation or even hardhead-ness. Advice newbies properly, that is afterall the objective of the forum. I have seen families destroyed because greed took over. Indeed, its the buyers' own decision(s), but sometimes a push is all it takes to push a punter over the edge....sometimes literally. In my many experiences prior to this forum, i have seen how some even going to the extend of borrowing from loan sharks just to earn and bet on "sure" thing.

again, i am one for things to move on. And in doing so, i wish you all the best in all your endeavour.

p.s. I am not hainam, but love their chicken no doubt! :)

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 12:16 | Report Abuse

limpek...dun sell HB too early....dun let the roasted duck fly as the chinese saying "chou bao".....you should keep HB..."hold Bao"...hehhehehehehe

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 12:20 | Report Abuse

KC loh....if you are not Hainam rang ....are u "kaki nang"????

Boh siong kang....at least we share 2 common things:

i) hold up our moral value....mine hai nang !
2) enjoying the smimilar hobby.....dun too loud...Datin just passby!!!! hehehee

Posted by limpek4896 > 2012-07-12 12:26 | Report Abuse

datuk,same as u say,i am not buy today sales tomorrow,hahaha,and when i buy it,no hit my target i will not chow,sozo my target set as rm 0.80.

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-07-12 12:27 | Report Abuse

so far, i have come to respect one or two who has made decent recommendations due to fundamentals. They are the ones i keep to my list and make attempts to check their recommendations. I normally glance a lot of stocks per day and if they mentioned their recommendations, i would probably allow a second look into it. That will be how high i rate them in this forum!

not into girls as per my younger days, learnt that ROI is bad there! :)

Posted by limpek4896 > 2012-07-12 12:28 | Report Abuse

now just focus at high dividen counter

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 12:29 | Report Abuse

limpek....hau san kor wei (cantonese dialect) ....good to dream big ! aim big ! earn big .....but not hole big, oK!!!kikikikiki

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 12:36 | Report Abuse

KC Loh.....i.m not young either.....inheried great experiences with girls and share yours ...not really good in ROI with them...but

what to do? i'm willing to spend $$$ and won't measure in roi if the "thing" can make me like a valcano man resemblend of young man like limpek......kikikikii

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 12:40 | Report Abuse

BTW.....when i was young....limpek4896 carried big meaning in my circle of friends.....cannot simply use......kena teo par (hokkian dialect) !!!! Guess why??

Limpek 4896???

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-07-12 12:45 | Report Abuse

why not give us your article on megam media fake accounting? you are going on and on about nothing in all your postings today. Sorry for being a straight shooter! :)

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 12:51 | Report Abuse

Limpek 4896.....if you are able to teka correctly.....perhaps i will give a "gift of opportunity to make" worth RMKK ! i'm serious !

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 12:52 | Report Abuse

bisa bayar kopi lui???? KC Loh?

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 12:53 | Report Abuse

Perhaps.....i will be write an article on fake accounting on megan media on this week end...and to be published on next monday......need to use 5-6 year of annual reportleh...

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 12:59 | Report Abuse

Will send to yr private email.....provided you call me "sifu". Afterall, there is no such thing as free lunch......kikikiki

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-07-12 13:26 | Report Abuse

Oh, don't bother then. Have enough reading as it is! Thanks anyway!

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 14:07 | Report Abuse

your choice!

Posted by melvin > 2012-07-12 14:15 | Report Abuse

Fight.

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 14:18 | Report Abuse

BTW....if u intend to be a wealthy man via share investment...in my humble opinion.....you can't fool around with too many shares or companies that you dun undertsand the operating business model and landscape....none will be an expert across all industries! We can' have friends sit in the senior magmt in all companies !!!!

Just by reading company report although is a must but insufficient to guarantee great returrn in ROIC.....sole, my opinion .....

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 14:21 | Report Abuse

circle of competent, influence, business acument, discipline, finatic, strong capital and risk tolerance and balance portfolio are essential ingredient ......

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-07-12 14:23 | Report Abuse

there is a beautiful word call "compounding"!

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 14:25 | Report Abuse

Hi Melvin...you are a bad boy!! dun encourage people to fight....but advocate toshoot !! shoot on face!....hehehehe

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 14:28 | Report Abuse

compounding? X $ % & * ??? rule of 72???

Posted by datuk > 2012-07-12 14:32 | Report Abuse

Limpek....lu bo siah bo ser......teo liar liew hor???kikikikiki