Can't believe he is reduced (humbled) to behaving like a penny stock trader. Holding a stock for 4-7 days? Buy 1 mil shares @ 1.15 sell @ 1.40?
Nothing wrong of course, but this is used to be chump change for him. What happened? Something has cracked in his head?
Is he really broke now?
______________ ______________ Tobby Hihihaha! Even Grandpa Koon biggest defractors are praising and singing to his tune! Like i said, plenty of anchovies in i3! Anyway, MNRB is a good stock! But after risen almost double, you know i know, he already bought MNRB weeks ago! 19/03/2021 10:50 PM
Im very sorry about my late inform. Please forgive me. Just share with you why I sell, its because I find out bond price is crush in foreign country! Beside that, Im on profit side. On other hand, I always believe no one can sell on the top.
PNB + ASB sold a total of 11.1 mil share on the 1st 3 days of this week consecutively; On 15/3. 1.59 mil share On 16/3. 3.62 mil share On 17/3. 5.91 mil share. Judging by the incrementsl Volume of disposal in from 15/3 tob17/3 , I suspect large amount of share ( may be another 10-12 mil shares) may have bbeen disposed on 18/3 (Thursday) and 19/3 (Friday). If my guess is somewhat correct, total disposal on this week would be well over 20 mil shares! MNRB share price closed at $1.27 last Friday (12/3). It closed at $1.42 this Friday (19/3). It is clear that the huge disposal has even resulted its share price to go up by about 12%! KYY only came out to say something on NNRB this Friday afternoon. Food for thought!
Is PNB and ASB thinking MNRB is now over- valued and hence selling down? Is an Insurance company of PE 5-6 and hold the sole reinsurance license and in a growing Takaful insurance segment overvalued at this price ? If nos are the answers, we must think rationally what drive the action of PNB/ASB (especially it have resulted share price increase)? Who are the buyers ? Traders and speculators ? I doubt so. Is PNB and ASB who collectively hold about 57% in MNRB paring down to provide liquidity and efficiency for foreign and local institutions' to buy in? Is PNB and ASB action is trying to get fair valuation for MNRB share price ? We must know that institution investors don't buy illiquid stock ( lack of free-float) and too tightly held stock until the controlling shareholders pare down. I remember PNB has said not too long ago that it is not their investment bstrategy to have management control in the companies they invested and therefore intend to pare down in companies which they have high stakes. Food for thought!
I am not encourage anybody to buy or sell. Just sharing my thoughts and hope it invoke some deeper thinking as I see a lot of irrational and unjustified comments in this forum.
Thus Raider highly agree MNRB is highly undervalue mah...!!
U think uncle KOON want to sell like a cheapskate at current price to u meh ?
Based on General Raider analysis that usually from past historical records & behavior uncle koon, wants to make 100% on its share investment, that means TP rm 1.80 mah!!
Even Tp Rm 1.80 MNRB still very cheap mah...!!
Have confidence lah....just join the party early loh...!!
Think carefully lah....mnrb rights issue 90 sen....now above Rm 1.40 PNB want to sell some lock in some...to hedge their bets mah...!!
It is bcos of PNB selling, KYY & gangs can collect MNRB at reasonable undervalue price with very good profit potential margin mah....!!
Thus MNRB still got big opportunity,to go up further loh, U think PNB do not realise MNRB is highly undervalue meh ?? Of course they also know mah, they just happy that Uncle Koon had the joined the party by invitation or just by gate crash mah...!!
It is likely the PNB sells will eventually stop, thus the price rise of MNRB is likely be sustainable loh!!
Below info are likely intelligent reasons why PNB sold some MNRB loh!!
By getting more liquidity & participations MNRB can be well accepted & share price will move up much stronger mah...!!
Posted by Johnzhang > Mar 20, 2021 11:05 AM | Report Abuse
Is PNB and ASB thinking MNRB is now over- valued and hence selling down? Is an Insurance company of PE 5-6 and hold the sole reinsurance license and in a growing Takaful insurance segment overvalued at this price ? If nos are the answers, we must think rationally what drive the action of PNB/ASB (especially it have resulted share price increase)?
Who are the buyers ? Traders and speculators ?
Is PNB and ASB who collectively hold about 57% in MNRB paring down to provide liquidity and efficiency for foreign and local institutions' to buy in?
Is PNB and ASB action is trying to get fair valuation for MNRB share price ?
We must know that institution investors don't buy illiquid stock ( lack of free-float) and too tightly held stock until the controlling shareholders pare down.
I remember PNB has said not too long ago that it is not their investment bestrategy to have management control in the companies they invested and therefore intend to pare down in companies which they have high stakes.
Raider is always against KYY mah....then why raider support this KYY recommendations leh ??
Bcos this is a very good profit recommendations....Raider would not be honest if do not support this MNRB investment at current attractive price loh...!!
Jokes aside lah....be honest & truthful with ourselves when we want to make monies mah!!!!
Posted by arv18 > Mar 20, 2021 6:28 PM | Report Abuse
how much did you sell you back-side to kyy for "stockraider"?
you should stick to promoting the DEAD stock Insas
This is a very good observation & conclusion loh!!
It is a goldmine profit making opportunity coming mah!!
Posted by Johnzhang > Mar 20, 2021 10:39 AM | Report Abuse
PNB + ASB sold a total of 11.1 mil share on the 1st 3 days of this week consecutively; On 15/3. 1.59 mil share On 16/3. 3.62 mil share On 17/3. 5.91 mil share. Judging by the incrementsl Volume of disposal in from 15/3 tob17/3 , I suspect large amount of share ( may be another 10-12 mil shares) may have bbeen disposed on 18/3 (Thursday) and 19/3 (Friday). If my guess is somewhat correct, total disposal on this week would be well over 20 mil shares! MNRB share price closed at $1.27 last Friday (12/3). It closed at $1.42 this Friday (19/3). It is clear that the huge disposal has even resulted its share price to go up by about 12%! KYY only came out to say something on NNRB this Friday afternoon. Food for thought!
Moratorium, MNRB do not have the monopoly in reinsurance in Malaysia. This sector was open up several years ago. I think this company can be consider undervalue due to its more consistent earning now and NAPS of 3.28.
KYY average cost is around 85sen The last price is 1.42sen i.e. up 70%
Most likely you can only get in at not less than 1.42 Buying is easier; but selling with a good reward could be tough at this price, unless the syndicate had cornered the stock
@ooihk899, the reinsurance segment is still controlled. As far as I learned from a very senior executive in the industry, local insurance company are required to cede a portion of the insurance risk to MNRB . Only in circumstance where MNRB has exhausted the capability to take more , local insurance companies can then reinsure with other external parties.
Rubbish lah....physically impossible to get average cost of 85 sen loh!
Raider so panlai average cost already Rm 1.10 mah....most likely kyy average cost around the same mah...!!
Posted by positiontrader > Mar 21, 2021 1:04 AM | Report Abuse
KYY average cost is around 85sen The last price is 1.42sen i.e. up 70%
Most likely you can only get in at not less than 1.42 Buying is easier; but selling with a good reward could be tough at this price, unless the syndicate had cornered the stock
Johnzhang @ooihk899, the reinsurance segment is still controlled. As far as I learned from a very senior executive in the industry, local insurance company are required to cede a portion of the insurance risk to MNRB . Only in circumstance where MNRB has exhausted the capability to take more , local insurance companies can then reinsure with other external parties.
Mnrb already prepare for freeing up the monopoly of Reinsurance many years ago loh...!!
Thats why u can see Mnrb is in the takaful business competing directly with Mkt leader like Syarikat takaful & etiqa mah...!!
MNRB even get to set up new takaful reinsurance loh!!
The extension of convention reinsurance monopoly is just an added bonus for MNRB loh!
Posted by Moratorium > Mar 21, 2021 1:21 PM | Report Abuse
Johnzhang @ooihk899, the reinsurance segment is still controlled. As far as I learned from a very senior executive in the industry, local insurance company are required to cede a portion of the insurance risk to MNRB . Only in circumstance where MNRB has exhausted the capability to take more , local insurance companies can then reinsure with other external parties.
@AlsvinChangan,. PNB selling down because MNRB is non Shariah compliance doesn't hold water at all! Firstly, MNRB is always not lin shariah compliance list published by Bursa,. now just today. Secondly, in PNB's portfolio there are other non Shariah stocks too. Thirdly, if shariah compliance is the issue, PNB/ASB shall dispose TOTALLY all MNRB shares . In that event, PNB/ASB will not sell in the open market but sell the whole lot to a buyer In order to get much much higher valuation. You may know when PNB sell the whole lot of CCM to KLK , they get about 3x higher price than the 6 months average traded share price . Mphbcap sold 49% of it's small insurance unit to Generali for about $350 mil based on over 3x book value . Book value for MBRB is about $3.50. How much do you think MNRB worth if PNB decide to sell the whole lot or substantially?? I decide to respond to you is to give other investors a fair and different perspective to analyse before making buy or sell decision.
Pls read carefully. KYY disclose he holds shares in Dominan & KPS. He did not mention whether he holds any shares in MNRB. Don’t know why KYY want to do this.
Also, AlsvinChangan claims that the reinsurance business is the most risky one . I don't think this is in anyway reflected in the financial results in the reinsurance segment of Mnrb since listing . The annual reports for many many years are available in Bursa website for your checking. Don't make statement that you can not defend !
Conclusion: The PE of insurance companies comparison shows that MNRB is the cheapest in term on PE ratio. This is so ridiculous because MNRB has the monopoly of selling reinsurance and all the 21 insurance companies have to buy 10-25% of reinsurance from MNRB. In fact, MNRB with its inherent advantage, should deserve a much higher rating than any one of the leading insurance companies. Currently it is selling at the cheapest PE.
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Posted by apolloang > 2021-03-19 22:06 | Report Abuse
uncle u should let us know when it was trading at between 0.95-1.05 and not now