With the lay off, this will affect the solar contribution. Would this be reflected in the coming quarter report? Last time i was hoping its solar expansion will fuel the earnings. Many new lines were in plan to be rolled out. This propect contributed to the price rally. Quarter earnings were higher and higher.
With the lay off, clearly the expansion is put onhold. Demand is falling. Solar earnings may turn southward. Bear in mind, last quarter, the solar earnings were not tht great and was balanced by non-solar segment.
Posted by skyrider > Aug 13, 2016 11:37 AM | Report Abuse
Actually 2Q was saved by the PVC and other business, otherwise 2Q result will be quite poor. solar profit 1Q - 20.32 mil 2Q - 13.268 mil PVC profit 1Q - 3.867 mil 2Q - 7.416 mil other profit 1Q - 0.861 mil 2Q - 2.09 mil This is mainly due to decrease of unrealised forex gain in the solar business. With RM in 3Q is about the same as 2Q and if PVC and other business drop in 3Q, even with the additional 3 solar lines (which only fully operational in Sept 2016) 3Q result may not be good as I expected earlier. http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2016/07/18/tek-seng-counts-on-solar-cell-business/ May have to wait until 4Q out before we really see excellent result. This time really need patience with ah seng.
One forumer posted his analysis on last quarter report. Solar earnings were already coming down. This could be the start point where solar business is turning south. The layoff event is a strong signal.
Tekseng is a growth story play. With solar future in shaky ground, the growth play no longer valid.
All the hopes on solar expansion now also questionable.
Remember tht mr.Loh bought huge chunk offmarket? (~rm3mil worth of shares). Seems like tht is to avoid market panic.
Take care guys. Decide on your own. Strong signals are there for us; news, management actions, last quarterly figures.
Just wanna ask where is all the sifu like Harry and Erkongseng that promote it hard? All quiet now and go promote other counter? I hold this counter since last Dec and I have seen worse when their Solar business still losing money but company still trading at 80 to 90sen. Now with just three line cut ppl are giving extremely low TP. Just ask some question. Do you believe solar energy is the future? Do you prefer management to keep quiet and not doing anything during low demand or save cost? When other are pessimistic I actually see some opportunity. The problem on retailet are they tend to buy high when good result and sell low during bad news. However the decision still yours to make and by the time of speaking I hold some of the company share.
kt_invest, don't think the lay off will have much impact on the bottom line as the main issue for 3Q is not sale volume but profit margin. PV prices has dropped drastically in 3Q, so much so that Taiwan Solartech is estimated to incur loss for the qtr ending Sep-16 and Dec-16. http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/financialHighlights?symbol=3561.TW I understand ah seng has better profit margin compare to Taiwan solartech as malaysia is not affected by U.S. tariff on pv products, however ah seng will be affected by this global pv price drop nonetheless. (大華繼顯發表的分析報告也指出「德成集團太陽能晶片的平均售價從8月的每兆瓦32美分,下跌至9月的每兆瓦27美分, That is 15% drop in price in 1 month from Aug to Sep. How about the price% drop from 2Q (apr, may, Jun)? Should be much more than 15% I deduced and this will definitely cut profit margin a lot (lucky if no loss). I do not think ah seng will make loss like Taiwan Solartech due to this pv prices drop, but profit definitely will be reduced severely. Based on the circumstancial data I have above, my estimated GUESS is ah seng 3Q solar profit will be cut at least by half compared to 2Q. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by kt_invest > Sep 29, 2016 10:27 PM | Report Abuse
With the lay off, this will affect the solar contribution. Would this be reflected in the coming quarter report? .....
Value wise, Tek Seng is trading at 5x PER. The management has clarified there is minimal impact on the recent retrenchment due to some productivity enhancement. In fact they also mentioned they still have 500 employees doing the production lines. There is no mention of production cuts whatsoever... Dont believe management? Dont forget tekseng has already delivered handsome result for 3 consecutive results. And also dont forget ringgit is still weak at the moment. While downside risk is limited due to some uncalm panic selling, this stock's risk- reward ratio looks very compelling..
TS is cheap with brighter prospects. PM najib is in talk with German chancellor angela merkel and u guys should know germany is the largest producer of renewable energy. The green renewable energy theme will be in play in Bursa!
We wish to clarify that the above measures undertaken by TS Solartech Sdn Bhd, a 50.69% owned subsidiary of Tek Seng Holdings Berhad (“Tek Seng” or “the Company”) is to optimize manpower to enhance productivity efficiency and to reduce its operating cost over the longer term.
The cost saving measures will not have any operational impact on TS Solartech Sdn Bhd or the Group. TS Solartech Sdn Bhd still has sufficient manpower of around 500 employees to fulfill the operation lines and is operating as usual in Penang Science Park. The Management of TS Solartech Sdn Bhd had resolved the issue by compensating monetarily. Despite that, the financial impact of manpower retrenchment is minimal.
The Company has and will always been looking to improve the Group’s performance and to increase its shareholders’ value.
Tekseng Author: Olga | Publish date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016, 08:31 AM
A Wave Across Penang Tek Seng Holdings Berhad
Tek Seng Holdings Berhad ("TekSeng") was incorporated in Malaysia under the Company Act, 1965 on 10 May 2002 as a private limited company under the name of Tek Seng Holdings Sdn. Bhd. On 16 May 2003, it was converted to a public limited company and assumed its present name.
TekSeng was listed on the Second Board of Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad on 2 November 2004. On 22 September 2006, TekSeng was successful transferred from the Second Board to the Main Board of Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad.
TekSeng is an investment holding company. Its subsidiaries are principally engaged in manufacturing and trading of polyvinyl chloride related products and PP non-woven products and letting of properties.
The Group has a track record of more than 30 years in the plastics industry with the late Loh Phah Seng @ Loh Boon Teik as the original founder until 1989, when Loh Kok Beng, his eldest son took over the management of the business.
TS Solartech Sdn Bhd (920573-K) Plot 320, Jalan Perindustrian Bukit Minyak 8, Penang Science Park Bukit Minyak, MK13, 14100,Seberang Perai Tengah, Pulau Pinang, Malaysia Founded in 2010, located in Penang Science Park Malaysia, TS Solartech is dedicated to the research, development, and production of high-quality solar cells, modules, and PV system. The company strives to become one of the world’s leading solar supplier through continuous innovation, outstanding processes, high yield rates, and world- class product efficiencies. TS Solartech was established as a subsidiary of Tek Seng Holdings Group, a well-established PVC products manufacturer for over 30 years. Since 2010, TS Solartech has become the first Malaysian-owned company that inked contract with German leading solar equipment maker and equipped with the first automatic solar cell-manufacturing equipment in Malaysia. Under its leadership, TS Solartech is committed to provide a clean and effective solar energy with affordable price for a sustainable world. From the beginning of its production in June 2012, TS Solartech has been working tirelessly to boost the output and efficiency. As of 2015, TS Solartech has achieved a yield rate of 98% with an average conversion efficiency of 17.8%. TS Solartech plans to continue expanding its production capacity in order to achieve greater economies of scale as well as being more competitive. As an international manufacturer, TS Solartech consistently provides premium quality solar cells, with outstanding delivery, reliability and a competitive price. By upgrading its product efficiency and service quality, TS Solartech constantly supplies state-of-the-art crystalline solar cells to prominent international module manufacturers worldwide. At TS Solartech, it is essential to focus on establishing long-term supplier relationships with major international makers. In the future, TS Solartech will be forming strategic alliances of upstream polysilicon wafer makers together with downstream module manufacturers and system integration distributors, in order to enhance its competitiveness through vertical integration and to create value for the entire supply chain.
do u see what i been telling u all? selling out fast! PM Najib in talks with German Chancellor Angela Merkel!! Germany is world's largest green renewable energy leader with highest output of megawatts! Do u not see the big pictures? Najib said to seek more technology transfer from Germany to Malaysia. Oil palm will do good also because Najib said to go all out to fight for trade barriers/restrictions with EU countries so we can export more to EU.
Do not sell TS shares. More to come to the green renewable energy scenes in Malaysia!! The dramatic fall in TS share price is a once in a lifetime opportunity! Invest like a real business owner! I dare tell u guys that TS will shoot up skyrocketing!
TS is already the largest manufacturer of PV cells and panels in M'sia with technology transfer from Joint venture partner Taiwan's listed company Solartech! u wanna make a lot of money then don't sell! I bought a large stake since 2 days ago and NOT SELLING.
Sime darby is venturing into solar farm in kedah as well in a massive project! Expect a green renewable energy theme! Don't play O&G counters, Petronas cutting staff and projects
Those who follow BRITISHMPIRE call earlier is having big loss now, those who follow wahahaha calls will in time (latest by the time poor 3Q result out) make big loss also.
Actually if you analyze the PE, now its sitting at PE 10 based on 2 quarters results. Even if it suffers eventual slowdown, average Eps could be 3 assuming 30 %drop. That's 12 cents annualised. PE at 10 is 1.20 Upside still high
sell if u not confident or interested. i'm still collecting. invest based on fundamentals. if u so easily shaken by some bad news, u will never gain. u can only buy cheaper when its sold below market price. if u don't believe me then we will talk about this in 1 month's time from now and it will be appreciated so much by then.
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Posted by mando > 2016-09-29 21:32 | Report Abuse
If condition worse, can drop till 55sen......