Buy shares quietly and secretly. Sell shares quietly and secretly. Cut loss shares quietly and secretly. Sell shares lost money quietly and secretly. Sell shares make small money quietly and secretly. Sell shares win big, brag a bit openly.
No one will pay you back your capital if you sell shares lost money, why should you let others know about it ? Sell shares lost money and blame people, who will tell you any tips in future ?
oldtb and gang is in the game. They wtite and post the wonderful news of this company. I must not miss the gains. Please stop and think further.
2nd level of thinking:
If it is so undervalued, being smart, what would they have done? Yes, kongming posted secretly acquiring quietly. Why then as a group, they revealed to everyone they have bought into Currymee. Why?
The promotion of Hengyuan was no different. Did someone said that most stocks identified and promoted by oldtb eventually crashed? Why? Who were the patsies?
We do not care whether it is a black cat or white cat, can catch a rat is a good cat.
Ask yourself how much money you had made from stock market. It is important to make money overall. It is very important the report is full of facts and figures.
Posted by Zhuge_Liang > Feb 8, 2019 11:38 AM | Report Abuse
We do not care whether it is a black cat or white cat, can catch a rat is a good cat.
Ask yourself how much money you had made from stock market. It is important to make money overall. It is very important the report is full of facts and figures.
I write this post for the benefits of potential investors as i am into O&G business for over 15 years. If you are a speculator/gambler, well my advise is worthless. I lost 60% on JAKS as of now due to heavy promotion by KYY and hence won't want others to get burned just because this KYY claimed that he is a good Christian and just wanna help people. At 45 years old, i should have smelled the fishiness when someone claimed publicly how GOOD himself is. Now let's get down to fundamental. KYY claimed he projected Carimin share price based on PE10. I fully agree with that valuation and I buy a company share based on PE ratio too. Now, the question is can Carimin make 20 sens for 2019 as KYY claimed? If you read his blog, he copied and pasted Carimin company profile without indepth analysis. I guess he is desperate after losing fortunes in JAKS and Sendai. Or he was just damn lucky in his previous few selections. I deal with all the topsite maintenance contractors eg. Carimin, Dayang, Sapura. If i were to buy any contractor's shares, it will be Dayang. Why? They are the best managed and cost effective TSM in Malaysia. Did i buy? Yes, not much because their volume is too small. I can't buy without chasing up the price which i don't like. Liquidity is my concern. KYY said 4 x 5 sens for next 3 quarters? That's a simple primary school formula which my 10 years old son also know. But does he know that the next quarterly report gonna be a loss? Why i said so? Cos, every year, TSM contractors only work from March to Oct. Why? Monsoon season lah why. KYY don't know? Then why he so confident? Well, i won't argue with his expertise in construction sector but when it comes to O&G, he should learn from me instead. OK fine you said, not 20 sens at least 15 sens then. Well, based on Carimin last quarter result, net profit margin was more than 10%. As i said, the most efficient TSM i know of is Dayang and even them can't make 10% in today competitive environment. I can only say, i ask Carimin COD for their POs and Dayang, 6 months also i am not worried. Have a look at Carimin previous annual reports and Dayang to get the feel. Company can't change overnight. Remember, apart from the right industry, the right management is important. Good luck! As for Hibiscus, it's a solid company. My average cost was 0.40 right when they first announced they bought Sabah Shell. Why i bought then? Hibiscus bought Sabah Shell dirt cheap at RM100m with 8k-10k production. They could recoup their investment within 2 years or less. That was when oil price was USD20-30 when Shell can't operate profitably. I sold at 1.00 but regretted i didn't follow my initial plan to keep 1/3. Hibiscus is a good long term investment but not ridiculous profit like KYY claimed. Their profit is easier for even lay person to predict. Oil price & production. Current oil price USD50, Hibiscus will be overpriced based on PE10. Current price is justified at USD60-65 per barrel in my opinion and if oil can reach USD80 then 1.30-1.50. Well, how about future assets acquisitions?? Sure, but definitely not a ROI 2 years lo. If they can get ROI 5 years i already salute them. Last. JAKS. The Vietnam power plant is an unknown. But look at how Ang Lam Poh is accumulating JAKS shares recently? Obviously he pushed JAKS down to get rid of KYY. Any business owner who sees potential in his own company would do that. Owner knows best, that's why you have insider trading restrictions. The owner has acquired 20 over million shares at 51 sens. Whereas Carimin shareholders were in a rush to sell. My recommendation to you. Carimin even at 0.20 is not cheap, Hibiscus is worth 0.80-1.00 and JAKS is worth more than 1.00. Disclaimer. The turnover in JAKS is few millions shares a day and i am a minor shareholder and i don't need you to buy to push up the share price. I am just trying to HELP YOU :)
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hibiscus could give a surprise earnings i think....
Posted by Windy1974 > Feb 8, 2019 11:50 AM | Report Abuse
I write this post for the benefits of potential investors as i am into O&G business for over 15 years. If you are a speculator/gambler, well my advise is worthless. I lost 60% on JAKS as of now due to heavy promotion by KYY and hence won't want others to get burned just because this KYY claimed that he is a good Christian and just wanna help people. At 45 years old, i should have smelled the fishiness when someone claimed publicly how GOOD himself is. Now let's get down to fundamental. KYY claimed he projected Carimin share price based on PE10. I fully agree with that valuation and I buy a company share based on PE ratio too. Now, the question is can Carimin make 20 sens for 2019 as KYY claimed? If you read his blog, he copied and pasted Carimin company profile without indepth analysis. I guess he is desperate after losing fortunes in JAKS and Sendai. Or he was just damn lucky in his previous few selections. I deal with all the topsite maintenance contractors eg. Carimin, Dayang, Sapura. If i were to buy any contractor's shares, it will be Dayang. Why? They are the best managed and cost effective TSM in Malaysia. Did i buy? Yes, not much because their volume is too small. I can't buy without chasing up the price which i don't like. Liquidity is my concern. KYY said 4 x 5 sens for next 3 quarters? That's a simple primary school formula which my 10 years old son also know. But does he know that the next quarterly report gonna be a loss? Why i said so? Cos, every year, TSM contractors only work from March to Oct. Why? Monsoon season lah why. KYY don't know? Then why he so confident? Well, i won't argue with his expertise in construction sector but when it comes to O&G, he should learn from me instead. OK fine you said, not 20 sens at least 15 sens then. Well, based on Carimin last quarter result, net profit margin was more than 10%. As i said, the most efficient TSM i know of is Dayang and even them can't make 10% in today competitive environment. I can only say, i ask Carimin COD for their POs and Dayang, 6 months also i am not worried. Have a look at Carimin previous annual reports and Dayang to get the feel. Company can't change overnight. Remember, apart from the right industry, the right management is important. Good luck! As for Hibiscus, it's a solid company. My average cost was 0.40 right when they first announced they bought Sabah Shell. Why i bought then? Hibiscus bought Sabah Shell dirt cheap at RM100m with 8k-10k production. They could recoup their investment within 2 years or less. That was when oil price was USD20-30 when Shell can't operate profitably. I sold at 1.00 but regretted i didn't follow my initial plan to keep 1/3. Hibiscus is a good long term investment but not ridiculous profit like KYY claimed. Their profit is easier for even lay person to predict. Oil price & production. Current oil price USD50, Hibiscus will be overpriced based on PE10. Current price is justified at USD60-65 per barrel in my opinion and if oil can reach USD80 then 1.30-1.50. Well, how about future assets acquisitions?? Sure, but definitely not a ROI 2 years lo. If they can get ROI 5 years i already salute them. Last. JAKS. The Vietnam power plant is an unknown. But look at how Ang Lam Poh is accumulating JAKS shares recently? Obviously he pushed JAKS down to get rid of KYY. Any business owner who sees potential in his own company would do that. Owner knows best, that's why you have insider trading restrictions. The owner has acquired 20 over million shares at 51 sens. Whereas Carimin shareholders were in a rush to sell. My recommendation to you. Carimin even at 0.20 is not cheap, Hibiscus is worth 0.80-1.00 and JAKS is worth more than 1.00. Disclaimer. The turnover in JAKS is few millions shares a day and i am a minor shareholder and i don't need you to buy to push up the share price. I am just trying to HELP YOU :)
when big fish tells you this counter got potential just be cautious. nothing is free ( why promote the stock ) when the counter is solid just my personal take
your average cost maybe much higher than the promoter..just act according to your trading plan. Remember to look for numbers and facts, no just merely prediction
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Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2019-02-08 10:50 | Report Abuse
The traits of smart investor are as follows :-
Buy shares quietly and secretly.
Sell shares quietly and secretly.
Cut loss shares quietly and secretly.
Sell shares lost money quietly and secretly.
Sell shares make small money quietly and secretly.
Sell shares win big, brag a bit openly.
No one will pay you back your capital if you sell shares lost money, why should you let others know about it ?
Sell shares lost money and blame people, who will tell you any tips in future ?
Think about aforesaid traits, true or not ?