nanoman

i agree it can be equally deadly, every method is not perfect , sure got weakness

2013-05-03 14:52

Kenny Foo

above of all talking, nobody point a gun at your head and ask you to gamble. When gaining you smile quietly. When you lose you point fingers and blame others. If BURSA is so easy to make money why ppl need to work. All can just shake legs at home and just use their finger to work by pressing what they like buy.

2013-05-03 14:57

lech001

bye bye ...

2013-05-03 14:58

Ooi Teik Bee

Any heavy shorting on KL stock market will affect small investors, like it or not.

I worry it will affect PR new government.

2013-05-03 15:04

Peter Lee

run b4 too late ,they will create trouble after ge13

2013-05-03 15:06

malaysiaboleh

News from youtube : PKR got chance to win P144 seats

2013-05-03 15:08

iafx

pr so fragile ke? the biggest "buaya" is not us but foreign funds. local kaki at best short individual counter only, but when real buaya come they short NOT only counter(s), they also combine with currency play... pr can do better than talk

2013-05-03 15:08

malaysiaboleh

Peter Lee , what trouble you mean ? Election only what .. u talk like want to WAR. pLease

2013-05-03 15:09

benhctan

We already have one foreign fund company shorting today,a day after GE 13 results announcement,a very highly volatility swing in the market is sure to happen.

This is not a world market crash,so nothing alarming.
After which the market will stabilise very fast during the week and there will be short covering.

2013-05-03 15:14

malaysiaboleh

Singapore Government also said .. they will dump money in Johor State if PKR win .. No worries. As long as , who can come out a good policy .. foreigner will come.

Buy Robert Kuok share .. he also announced to invested in Johor Iskandar.. because he also believed PKR will win.

Year 2008 have big drop because no one estimate BN will lost 5 state. But today, all predicted PKR will WIN. There is not a big problem, and those want to run already clear stock on hand. KWSP, PNB, wont simply sell share in market even BN Lose, because PKR is their boss later. DOn't be too panic.. ppls panic we collect...

2013-05-03 15:16

JeffLow

I noticed OTB deleted the posting where he accused me of being a Traitor. He got no balls to apologise, so quietly delete and pretend it was not there.

2013-05-03 15:16

CFattLoong

I don't mind to be a traitor. Short KHSB. Ha ha ha ha

2013-05-03 15:17

Ooi Teik Bee

Benhctan,

I am not here to offend you, I just express my fear for PR new government. Thank you for your last advice.

JeffLow, I say sorry to you. I misquoted your intention.

Thank you.

Ooi

2013-05-03 15:19

necro

hahahaha...
he does..

2013-05-03 15:20

Ooi Teik Bee

Posted by JeffLow > May 3, 2013 03:16 PM | Report Abuse

I noticed OTB deleted the posting where he accused me of being a Traitor. He got no balls to apologise, so quietly delete and pretend it was not there.

JeffLow, I say sorry to you. I misquoted your intention.

Thank you.

Ooi

2013-05-03 15:23

benhctan

Ooi Teik Bee:we are a very closely knit community here like brother and sisters irrespective of what creed.
No one is perfect,who knows I might be wrong at times.
At least you have highlighted to investors what happened before in this discussion.
That's how we fine tune ourselves through arguments.

2013-05-03 15:33

JeffLow

Bro OTB - apology accepted. I hv no grouses with anyone and I believe we are on the same side.

2013-05-03 15:50

Ooi Teik Bee

Thank you.

Let us all hope that PR will win in GE13 on 5/5/2013.

2013-05-03 16:11

malaysiaboleh

Wish for them Good Luck .. tis time must change.

2013-05-03 16:13

shirley1

i think got one guy like to play short one.. i speculate he was trying to short FKLI since early april .. i hope he won some money for that gamble.. haha

2013-05-03 21:10

shirley1

I must confessed, I was expecting the market badly hit today and was happy when see more than 20 points dropped, unfortunately market disappointed me, anyone waiting for market to drop ? will it drop badly next week ? mind to share ur views..

2013-05-03 21:45

PureBear

Hope for a hung parliament then market will drop like crazy :D

2013-05-04 15:55

kentyew

hi, benchctan, may I know which broker (and possibly remisier too) I can open a Regulated Short Selling (RSS)account, so that I can participate in short selling. TQ

2013-06-20 21:44

Lucky88

take note that this short selling is like a margin account.
Most counters listed are not rubbish counters, they overall going upwards. And when spikes of prices, you normally won't get the change to short it. Mostly those institution will sell it & their fee is virtually free.

If enough ppl have shorted shares, what dirty institutional manipulator could do is to push up the prices(Which is easy for them) and you all small investors will be forced to buy back (Like it or not, you are likely buy from them if cannot cover margin)

2013-06-20 21:55

arv18

Not worth it. Better to open a small FX trading account with a small sum of US1000-US10000 to take part market downturns via currencies or commodities. It also helps sharpen up your risk management, and Technical Analysis (TA) abilities

2013-06-20 21:55

Lucky88

Anyways, you could open an account & play little. There is no cash account for short selling as there is no limit of how high a counter can go.
ie unlimited risk with earning are as much as sales proceeds only

2013-06-20 21:56

Steve Jub

oh now i know got this to short sell one.

2013-06-20 21:57

arv18

The REAL short-sellers are the Propriety Day Traders. Don't pay brokerage and trade big. These guys are the ones responsible for providing "liquidity" or are supposed to anyway. I believe they work for the investment banks, but I could be wrong.

2013-06-20 22:01

kentyew

Lucky88, do u know which broker or remisier I can open the RSS account. arv18, I have FX account too, but I feel more comfortable trading SGX equity market where I can short sell stocks. and trading in SGX stock give me comfortable incomes

2013-06-20 22:02

arv18

Agreed. Don't play the fool with FX. You can lose EVERYTHING in 2 minutes!

2013-06-20 22:04

benhctan

The following stocks were withdarwn from the Regulated Short Selling.
1 5401 DIJAYA CORPORATION BERHAD
2 2143 ECM LIBRA FINANCIAL GROUP BERHAD
3 5205 EVERSENDAI CORPORATION BERHAD
4 3492 KFC HOLDINGS (M) BERHAD
5 3565 KUMPULAN EUROPLUS BERHAD
6 5202 MSM MALAYSIA HOLDINGS BERHAD
7 5703 MUHIBBAH ENGINEERING (M) BERHAD
8 5173 SHIN YANG SHIPPING CORP BERHAD
9 1589 TEBRAU TEGUH BERHAD
10 4243 WTK HOLDINGS BERHAD

Replacing the above are:
1 5210 BUMI ARMADA BERHAD
2 3794 LAFARGE MALAYAN CEMENT BERHAD
3 3662 MALAYAN FLOUR MILLS BERHAD
4 5983 MBM RESOURCES BERHAD
5 5201 OLDTOWN BERHAD
6 4065 PPB GROUP BERHAD
7 7158 SCOMI GROUP BERHAD
8 5211 SUNWAY BERHAD
9 4804 TRADEWINDS CORPORATION BERHAD
10 5142 WAH SEONG CORPORATION BERHAD

Latest inclusion is IHH Healthcare Berhad.

You need to open a separate trading account with your respective investment bank such as RHB,Kenanga,HDBS
or contact
Foreign participant:
UBS Securities Malaysia,Wisma Hong Leong (Tel: 2781 1100)
JP Morgan (http://jpmorganaccess.com.my/)

2013-06-20 22:28

arv18

Post removed.Why?

2013-06-20 22:33

Lucky88

haha.. mine wan dun use from RSS
I use from multiple CDS directly something like "Propriety Day Traders" said by arv18

2013-06-20 22:45

benhctan

Regulated short selling list as at 06 January 2013

1 5185 AFFIN HOLDINGS BERHAD
2 5099 AIRASIA BERHAD
3 2488 ALLIANCE FINANCIAL GROUP BERHAD
4 1015 AMMB HOLDINGS BERHAD
5 6888 AXIATA GROUP BERHAD
6 5190 BENALEC HOLDINGS BERHAD
7 3395 BERJAYA CORPORATION BERHAD
8 1562 BERJAYA SPORTS TOTO BERHAD
9 5258 BIMB HOLDINGS BERHAD
10 2771 BOUSTEAD HOLDINGS BERHAD
11 5210 BUMI ARMADA BERHAD
12 1818 BURSA MALAYSIA BERHAD
13 7076 CB INDUSTRIAL PRODUCT HOLDING BERHAD
14 1023 CIMB GROUP HOLDINGS BERHAD
15 5071 COASTAL CONTRACTS BERHAD
16 5141 DAYANG ENTERPRISE HOLDINGS BERHAD
17 7277 DIALOG GROUP BERHAD
18 6947 DIGI.COM BERHAD
19 3417 EASTERN & ORIENTAL BERHAD
20 1368 FABER GROUP BERHAD
21 5398 GAMUDA BERHAD
22 3182 GENTING BERHAD
23 4715 GENTING MALAYSIA BERHAD
24 2291 GENTING PLANTATIONS BERHAD
25 5020 GLOMAC BERHAD
26 3034 HAP SENG CONSOLIDATED BERHAD
27 5138 HAP SENG PLANTATIONS HOLDINGS BERHAD
28 5819 HONG LEONG BANK BERHAD
29 1597 IGB CORPORATION BERHAD
30 3336 IJM CORPORATION BERHAD
31 5215 IJM LAND BERHAD
32 2216 IJM PLANTATIONS BERHAD
33 1961 IOI CORPORATION BERHAD
34 5161 JCY INTERNATIONAL BERHAD
35 3522 KIAN JOO CAN FACTORY BERHAD
36 5089 KLCC PROPERTY HOLDINGS BERHAD
37 7164 KNM GROUP BERHAD
38 5878 KPJ HEALTHCARE BERHAD
39 5097 KSK GROUP BERHAD
40 2445 KUALA LUMPUR KEPONG BERHAD
41 2003 KULIM (M) BERHAD
42 3794 LAFARGE MALAYAN CEMENT BERHAD
43 4235 LION INDUSTRIES CORPORATION
44 8583 MAH SING GROUP BERHAD
45 1155 MALAYAN BANKING BERHAD
46 3662 MALAYAN FLOUR MILLS BERHAD
47 5014 MALAYSIA AIRPORTS HOLDINGS BERHAD
48 1171 MALAYSIA BUILDING SOCIETY BERHAD
49 5186 MALAYSIA MARINE AND HEAVY ENGINEERING HOLDINGS BERHAD
50 3786 MALAYSIAN AIRLINE SYSTEM BERHAD
51 5077 MALAYSIAN BULK CARRIERS BERHAD
52 1651 MALAYSIAN RESOURCES CORPORATION BERHAD
53 6012 MAXIS BERHAD
54 5983 MBM RESOURCES BERHAD
55 5090 MEDIA CHINESE INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
56 4502 MEDIA PRIMA BERHAD
57 3816 MISC BERHAD
58 2194 MMC CORPORATION BERHAD
59 5085 MUDAJAYA GROUP BERHAD
60 3905 MULPHA INTERNATIONAL BERHAD
61 3859 MULTI-PURPOSE HOLDINGS BERHAD
62 5201 OLDTOWN BERHAD
63 5053 OSK HOLDINGS BERHAD
64 7052 PADINI HOLDINGS BERHAD
65 5657 PARKSON HOLDINGS BERHAD
66 0047 PERISAI PETROLEUM TEKNOLOGI BERHAD
67 5183 PETRONAS CHEMICALS GROUP BERHAD
68 5681 PETRONAS DAGANGAN BERHAD
69 6033 PETRONAS GAS BERHAD
70 4634 POS MALAYSIA BERHAD
71 4065 PPB GROUP BERHAD
72 1295 PUBLIC BANK BERHAD (inc. Public Bank - F)
73 6807 PUNCAK NIAGA HOLDINGS BERHAD
74 1066 RHB CAPITAL BERHAD
75 5113 RIMBUNAN SAWIT BERHAD
76 7158 SCOMI GROUP BERHAD
77 9792 SEG INTERNATIONAL BERHAD
78 5173 SHIN YANG SHIPPING CORP BERHAD
79 4197 SIME DARBY BERHAD
80 8664 SP SETIA BERHAD
81 5211 SUNWAY BERHAD
82 7106 SUPERMAX CORPORATION BERHAD
83 4898 TA ENTERPRISE BERHAD
84 5158 TA GLOBAL BERHAD
85 4863 TELEKOM MALAYSIA BERHAD
86 5347 TENAGA NASIONAL BERHAD
87 5112 TH PLANTATIONS BERHAD
88 5031 TIME DOTCOM BERHAD
89 7113 TOP GLOVE CORPORATION BERHAD
90 4804 TRADEWINDS CORPORATION BERHAD
91 9059 TSH RESOURCES BERHAD
92 5148 UEM LAND HOLDINGS BERHAD
93 4588 UMW HOLDINGS BERHAD
94 5005 UNISEM (M) BERHAD
95 5200 UOA DEVELOPMENT BERHAD
96 5142 WAH SEONG CORPORATION BERHAD
97 9679 WCT BERHAD
98 4677 YTL CORPORATION BERHAD
99 2577 YTL LAND & DEVELOPMENT BERHAD
100 6742 YTL POWER INTERNATIONAL BERHAD

2013-06-20 22:48

fitfit

latest Bursa RSS list http://www.bursamalaysia.com/misc/system/assets/1809/RSS_approved_securities.pdf

2014-10-17 14:06

bravoUp

Which stock have u short lately. Complaint only no point.
If you really good in short selling go short US stock, currencies or commodity.
Trying to be hero to make Malaysian regulation look bad don't earn you a single cent.

2014-10-17 14:12

fitfit

bravoUp, my point is do we need to avoid these type of stocks?

2014-10-17 14:18

bennike129

can anyone recommend a good RSS account that has low fee? CIMB? HLB? etc

2014-12-02 08:50

buyhighselllow

most of the brokers do not know about RSS ...

2014-12-02 11:31

chebicef

Been searching around on the internet about brokerage that provides RSS, none so far.

2015-02-23 09:50

Surewin123

how to do RSS? can teach? i now using m2u

2017-04-14 11:14

Junichiro

If u are like selling short, try the futures market e.g. our local CPO futures.

If the market has no volatility, ii is easy to lose $$$.

2017-04-14 15:14

Junichiro

The price range of our CPO futures average around 40 points. One point is RM25-00. With some skill, u only need to scrap some 7 points or so multipy by the number of contracts u buy.

Before u short stocks in Bursa, better to find out if those candidates have ample volatility.

2017-04-14 15:23

profit profits

Pariah like YTL-land also allowed short selling , what a joke .

2018-03-07 06:35

KYY SureWin

Why they keep changing the RSS list ? Maybe companies send their agents to go lobby for the counter to be in the list..hahaha

2018-03-07 07:07

profit profits

Original intention to allow short sell is to cool down any goreng activity, some pariah like YTL-Land hardly active, how can they be qualified ? Someone please report to MACC.

2018-03-07 07:57

newbie5354

Is RSS behind BN losing 2013 GE popular votes? GE 14 RSS causing BN losing GE? No wonder Chua Tee Yong(Chua Soi Lek son) said parliament to dissolve last day ie June 24th.

2018-03-07 08:04

limch

No wonder Pak Lah won by biggest majority ever in 2004 GE. RSS was banned then.

In Bursa Malaysia, short selling is regulated under Regulated Short Selling (RSS) and Securities Borrowing and Lending (SBL) guidelines, which introduced to the market on 3rd January 2007. Prior to 2006, short selling was banned for about 8 years.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/benhctan/29089.jsp

2018-03-07 08:14

newbie_2018

sifus I am newbie. If ban short selling any chance those stocks shorted go up back?

2018-03-07 08:56

profit profits

Please clear and boycott all those counters which can short sell, that is the only way to protect our money.

2018-03-07 17:07