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Publish date: Sat, 08 Oct 2016, 09:22 AM
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STAN DRUCKENMILLER: The only way to win the hedge fund game is by being a ‘pig’

 

 

Stan Druckenmiller

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Forget portfolio diversification. 

Legendary hedge fund manager Stanley Druckenmiller said when you see something in the market that really, really excites you, “bet the ranch on it.” 

I think diversification and all the stuff they’re teaching at business school today is probably the most misguided concept everywhere,” Druckenmiller said during a speech on January 18th at the Lone Tree Club in North Palm Beach, Florida.

In his speech, Druckenmiller described his investment philosophy as that of a “pig” instead of a stock market “bull” or “bear.”  

“The first thing I heard when I got in the business….was bulls make money, bears make money, and pigs get slaughtered. I’m here to tell you I was a pig. And I strongly believe the only way to make long-term returns in our business that are superior is by being a pig.”

The 61-year-old founder of Duquesne Capital Management has one of the best long-term track records in the hedge fund world. He retired in 2010 and now runs his firm as a family office. 

He explained that if you find a trade that “excites you” tend to have better results.

And if you look at what excites you and then you look down the road, your record on those particular transactions is far superior to everything else, but the mistake I’d say 98 percent of money managers and individuals make is they feel like they’ve got to be playing with a bunch of of stuff. And if you really see it, put all your eggs in one basket and watch the basket very carefully.”  

These sorts of trades don’t happen often though. They usually happen one or two times a year, Druckenmiller explained. 

During Druckenmiller’s career, he had two mentors and one of them was famed fund manager George Soros. 

Working for Soros cemented Druckenmiller’s investment philosophy of “if you see it, you got to go for it.” 

Druckenmiller worked a portfolio manager for Soros’ Quantum Fund. He noted that Soros had been spending a majority of his time on philanthropy in addition to running his personal account.

According to Druckenmiller, about 90% of the trades Soros was making were actually his ideas. Soros was crushing Druckenmiller’s returns though. 

“I’m a competitive person, frankly embarrassing, that in his personal account working about 10% of the time he continued to beat Duquesne and Quantum while I was managing the money,” Druckenmiller said. “And again it’s because he was taking my ideas and he just had more guts. He was betting more money with my ideas that I was.” 

Druckenmiller shared the story of he and Soros’ famous British pound short bet that “Broke the Bank of England.” Druckenmiller said that he had pitched his short idea to Soros and suggested that they put 100% of the fund in the trade.

Soros told Druckenmiller that was “ridiculous” and that they should put more even more on it. 

“That is the most ridiculous use of money management I ever heard,” Soros said to Druckenmiller. “What you described is an incredible one-way bet. We should have 200 percent of our net worth in this trade, not 100 percent. Do you know how often something like this comes around?” 

That trade certainly paid off. 

WHAT DO YOU THINK

1.  Please be clear that hedge fund manager is very different from retail investors.

2.  Their objective, risk, capital structure, and expertise is different from individual stock picking.

3.  I like his statement "I think diversification and all the stuff they taught in business school today is the most misguided concept everywhere.

4.  There is certain truth to it.  Let say you are a businessman in telco tower services sector, your expertise is in this sector, you build your business and team in this sector.  Day and night, you are with this sector, you gave your 100% or 200% to expand this business.  What other choice do you have?  Does a businessman have choices of DIVERSIFICATION?  The issue here is, he knows what he is doing and he is good at what he is doing - he must have some kind of competitive edge in that sector, otherwise, business will not survive.

 

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i had the same feeling on Diversification all this while....i think anything above 5 stocks is a bit of blur decisions....diluting your returns..

(of course you need more if your capital is very big - else you will start affecting the price of the stock drastically when you sell or buy.)

2016-10-08 13:32

yuanlong57

Cannot take Fund Managers words as gospel truth. These people usually mention a little bit here and a little bit there. They will keep something they don't want you to know under wraps. Otherwise, how are they going to preserve their rice bowls when investors start doing D.I.Y.? Common sense and logical reasoning will reveal to us for every success story there is a confluence of factors at work. For example, geopolitical market trends, market cycles, global and regional macroeconomics, etc. Speaking of George Soros, he has a baggage of some ethical deficits for which he is trying to compensate with his facade of charity funding. This ethical deficit is one reason why the renowned Jim Rogers left Quantum Fund after a short partnership with Soros.

2016-10-09 08:21

sosfinance

"Diversification is protection against ignorance. It make little sense if you know what you are doing" Warren Buffett said

Well, I do advocate diversify our currency into USD, or Sterling (flash crash last Friday to 5.14, if your kids studying in UK). It's nothing to do with diversification in stocks.

2016-10-09 12:54

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