10 Yr Price Returns
June 2010 to Jun 2020

Topglove +826% (CAGR 95.7%)

Hartalega +1,731% (CAGR 110.7%)

Overpriced Nestle :-)


Jun 2010 to Jun 2020

10 Yrs Share Price Returns 303%
10 Yrs Dividend Returns 78%
Total Returns 381%
CAGR 17%

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Jun 28, 2020 8:40 PM | Report Abuse X

In Dec 2019 and Jan 2020, calvin et al sung the songs of how cheap this counter Netx was. At 2.5 sen and 3 sen, what could go wrong?

Well, we now learn that a 3 sen stock can still go down to 1 sen, giving you a 67% loss.


Always stay with quality.

Calvin and friends cannot face the truth and pain. Therefore resorts to deleting. The truth has to be faced and managed. In investing, there are risks and rewards. calvin goes overboard promoting on the rewards and never even raise the risks that accompany every investment.
28/06/2020 8:36 PM

Speculation is when the "investor" focus "not on what an asset will produce but rather on what the next fellow will pay for it."

Speculators may knowingly pay more than what a stock is worth in the hope of selling it for an even higher price, with the goal of dumping them before the stock becomes worthless.

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"Nothing sedates rationality like large doses of effortless money, however, irrational exuberance and boundless optimism is never sustainable."

A new wave of investors learns some very old lessons. One of those is that "speculation is most dangerous when it looks easiest."

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Quote from: stockraider on June 16, 2011, 04:49:37 PM
U sifu teach u accumulate high price meh...!?
U only buy when....price is low mah...!

That also buy little bit....slowly buy mah....!

Lagipun ESSO jatuh....takut apa takut ?
Raider......sudah....bagi....mind power focus training....ESSO Rm 10.00....sure mah....!

Itu nebie kat...! Tak guna punya...! Ini takut...! Itu takut...! Macam baby...!

U better don friend....itu nebies kat so much...! Bad influence loh....! Just use your mind power focus ESSO.......pasti 1 day Rm 10.00 mah...!

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Love to learn from other's mistake. The tuition fee is virtually free.

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stockraider
Marquess
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Posts: 16,465

Re: STUPID INSAS....
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2011, 04:39:37 PM »


Insas can accumulate more loh !....why u care what other people say leh ?
Raider ask u lah....if 2morrow insas Rm 0.60....will u sell everything ? And make nothing ah ?

No leh ? Then why worry, Insas Rm 0.515.........should buy more average mah...!
Opportunity loh...! Take advantage of Market mah...!

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Meet Mr Market. Swimming naked!

Caveat emptor

In Star today, a good article on: Reversal of private placement soon?

Quote: A veteran investor .... is worried if private placement shares end up in hands of market syndicates. "The shares are crossed to the syndicates for them to get a block of shares and promote the stock."

A former equity market analyst also points out there is an incentive for the companies to "artificially push" their shares higher prior to private placement exercise in order to maximise the amount of funds raised. This may result in the share prices declining post placement.


(Invert. Invert. Quoting Charlie Munger)

Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ Be cognisant of your biases.

For those who own Netx, be aware of 2 possible biases that may hamper your returns.

1. Endowment effect: Those who own Netx (like calvin, raider, strongcows and followers) tend to overestimate its value just because they own them. They fail to objectively look at the risks and re-worjed its actual true value. A RM 100 per share stock maybe undervalued and a 1 sen stock maybe overpriced. Think and invert.

2. Disposition effect: Many are in the same shoes of calvin, raider, strongcows and followers, having carrying cost of Netx shares at higher price than 1 sen. Because of imminent loss on selling at 1 sen (just as they did not sell at 3 sen, 2.5 sen, 2 sen, and 1.5 sen as adviced by some here), they are holding onto their losing positions for too long. As was the case if GSB 10 years ago, calvin "proudly declared" he made a profit in GSB when the share went up to 17 sen last year. :-)
26/06/2020 4:27 PM

Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ A lot of valuable lessons offered by players of Netx shares.
26/06/2020 12:02 PM
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defragmenter Cindy is right. Those parking at 1.5 cents should remove first. This is not helping at all.
26/06/2020 11:24 AM

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If Netx is worth next to nothing, it is a very expensive share indeed.


Hoping to sell to suckers!!! Good luck.
26/06/2020 12:04 PM
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Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ Massive distribution of shares occured at 1 sen the last 1 or more weeks, soon after private placement shares eete tradable. Good luck to those who bought.


Who are smarter? The seller of shares at 1 sen or the buyers of same share at 1 sen.

Who sold? Who bought? Why?


Invert! Invert! Invert!

(Did you make RM1 m in glove stocks recently? If not, why?)
26/06/2020 12:08 PM

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Netx

RM 771,184 transacted at 1 sen (Volume 77,118,400 shares)
RM 25,155 transacted at 1.5 sen (Volume 1,118,000 shares)


Sellers dominating.

Yet, closing price is always at 1.5 sen.

Do you think we will see 0.5 sen soon?


[Data driven decision making.]

NetX

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Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Jun 25, 2020 3:08 PM | Report Abuse X

Share Volume 782,364
Date: 25 Jun 2020
Share Trade Detail
Share Trade Value (RM) 787,954
Share VWAP (RM) 0.010



Closing Price 1.5 sen now! Wow, up 50% today! :-)

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RM 771,184 transacted at 1 sen (Volume 77,118,400 shares)
RM 25,155 transacted at 1.5 sen (Volume 1,118,000 shares)

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Jun 25, 2020 11:34 AM | Report Abuse X

But 90% of time the closing price is at 1.5 sen per share. Remarkable. It is a miracle.


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Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Jun 25, 2020 11:39 AM | Report Abuse X

If manipulators are around, who is the patsy?


Have a good look at cows, especially the strong ones.

Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥



Share Volume 759,617
Date: 25 Jun 2020
Share Trade Detail
Share Trade Value (RM) 762,338
Share VWAP (RM) 0.010


How to calculate VWAP?

Volume transacted 75.96 m shares
Value in RM transacted RM 762,338

VWAP
= 762,338 / 75,960,000
= RM 0.010036
= 1.0036 sen
25/06/2020 11:33 AM
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Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥

But 90% of time the closing price is at 1.5 sen per share. Remarkable. It is a miracle.
25/06/2020 11:34 AM

The closing price of Netx is deceptive. Has been manipulated for a long time. Remember 168, 1331 etc.

Look at the VWAP (Volume Weighted Average Price) to get the true price.

Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ NetX

Share Volume 757,755
Share Trade Value (RM) 759,783
Share VWAP (RM) 0.010


Almost 100% transacted at 1 sen this morning.

Only the manipulators bought a bit at 1.5 sen to put the price up.

Many are happy to get out of this stock at 1 sen. I think these are the "smart insiders."
25/06/2020 10:33 AM

Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥


Netx

Stay away. What was cheap has become cheaper. Ask calvin, raider, strongcows and followers. From 3 sen to 2.5 sen to 1.5 sen and the last whole week, distribution of shares in large quantities at 1 sen.


Also what is cheap today can become cheaper. 1 sen can drop to 0.5 sen.

Someone here posted this company is bankrupt, surviving on frequent "cash" infusions through private placements. These pruvate placements shares eventually end up in the pockets of calvin, raider, strongcows and followers.


PBB is a wonderful company. Do you like its present price?
25/06/2020 8:46 AM

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Netx
Share Trade Detail
Share Trade Value (RM) 1,506,545
Share VWAP (RM) 0.010
Share Volume 1,501,983



Once again, almost 100% of shares transacted at 1 sen.

The price is manipulated the whole day to close at 1.5 sen.

Target price <<< 0.5 sen (high probability).
24/06/2020 7:29 PM

Mikecyc Why Netx is going bankrupt, operation cash flow required yearly ,10 mill to 20 mil :

1.) Unaudited 4Q FY19 Report :

Admin.Expenses = RM 13.63 million
Operating.Expenses = RM RM 7.69 million

Total = RM 21.32 million

2.) Audited Annual Report :

FY18 :
Admin. Expenses = RM 9.756 million
Operating Expenses = RM 9.362 million

Total = RM 19.12 million

FY17 :
Admin. Expenses = RM 4.180 million
Operating Expenses = RM 0.14 million

Total = RM 4.32 million

FY16 :
Admin.Expenses = RM 2.06 million
Operating Expenses = RM 10.81 million

Total = RM 12.87

FY15 :
Admin. Expenses = RM 1.23 million
Operating Expenses =RM 9.76 million

Total = RM 10.99 million
22/06/2020 8:28 AM

Stock: [NETX]: NETX HOLDINGS BHD

Jun 19, 2020 6:29 PM | Report Abuse

Invert, invert, invert.


If calvin, raider, strongcows, the prosperous and a few are buying at 1 sen (a big IF), WHO are selling in such big quantities?

Who are the smart investors and who are the dumb investors?

Invert, invert, invert.


If calvin, raider, strongcows, the prosperous and a few are buying at 1 sen (a big IF), WHO are selling in such big quantities?

Who are the smart investors and who are the dumb investors?

http://myinvestingnotes.blogspot.com/2020/06/excellent-comment-on-margin-of-safety.html?m=0

Excellent video Buffett teaches on Margin of Safety

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Jun 19, 2020 5:36 PM | Report Abuse X

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stncws NAIM 85C...WHICH SIFU RECOMMEND 71C...?? JJ? MOUSE? 3BODOH? PASTOR?FIAZAL?
19/06/2020 3:44 PM

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This cow is edgy indeed! Stay cool, my friend.


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Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Jun 19, 2020 5:39 PM | Report Abuse X

faizal

Tiap tiap hari di Netx. Nampak nya harga tepat 1 sen. Lebih baik jangan buang masa anda di sini. Buat kerja yang lebih berhasil.


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Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Jun 19, 2020 5:42 PM | Report Abuse X

Poor calvin

Very frustrated person indeed. His character was already debated by many in this forum in the past too.

Just search, liar, in i3 and you will understand.


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Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Jun 19, 2020 5:44 PM | Report Abuse X

raider


On many occasions, he displays dishonesty.

Sure, we will accept his latest post that his investing is for the very long term. Many unsuccessful short term speculators become involuntary long term "investors". :-)


Have a good laugh.


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Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Jun 19, 2020 5:48 PM | Report Abuse X

By the way, raider, in his characteristic dishonest way, posted Petdag was the biggest loser in the market on a certain day.

I immediately remarked on his stupidity. Of course, he was showing off his cleverness. But what was his basis? Yes, he looked at price!

What is there to add?

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Netx at 1 sen is the best bargain in the new tech world

Just buy while cheap

Regards
Calvin

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My intrinsic value for NetX is << 0.5 sen.

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jjohnchew 12) every year is Loss .. FY18 loss rm 18.3 mil.. FY19 loss 32 mil ..

13) GEM Hong Kong partner 2go trading is ceased operations since 2016 .. signed with its subsidiary 2go Tech on June2019.. why still made Huge losses!.. now change to GEMspot then to GEMspotPro .. Q6 no revenue fr GEM , only RM 33,000 ?
19/06/2020 7:54 AM
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Just add up all the yearly losses.

Take a look at the big picture.

Gruesome.

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Jun 18, 2020 3:08 PM | Report Abuse

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qqq3 calvin...EPF would not buy any of your shares....how?
03/06/2019 6:29 PM



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https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/paulchengks/2018-04-06-story153226-C...


Stock: [NETX]: NETX HOLDINGS BHD

Jun 18, 2020 3:06 PM | Report Abuse

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PotentialGhost Hahaha laugh died me , this pukimak PSYCHOPATH Calvintaneng 300 pick stock in bursa , all Chun Chun call . Calvintaneng have free boat trip to hollad.
22/05/2019 9:18 PM

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wow

December 02, 2015, 09:50:42 PM »

Yes...raider bought clothing market leader Padini....and with dividend paying too.....!!
This give raider a good return loh......!!

Although....Padini do not have huge discount on nta....but its dividend yield and PE is still attractive loh....!!
Also Padini is net cash mah.....!!

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18/06/2020 1:29 PM



Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ raider

bertelor sebiji teriak sekampong
18/06/2020 2:07 PM

strongcows

Padini is a stock I have in my portfolio for almost a decade already.


https://myinvestingnotes.blogspot.com/2010/03/searching-for-good-quality-stocks-in.html

Share Volume 74,800
Date: 18 Jun 2020
Share Trade Value (RM) 74,800
Share VWAP (RM) 0.010


By now, according to calvin, strongcows and his merry friend, this stock should be ..... sen.

Ha, the lovely cow is around.

I like this game which I know as:

Buy from Suckers, Sell to Suckers

Often, I abbreviate this to

BFS, STS.


Certainly I have noticed a lot of Suckers around.

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Stock: [NETX]: NETX HOLDINGS BHD

Jan 9, 2020 10:43 PM | Report Abuse

Volume suddenly up so much today


Stock: [NETX]: NETX HOLDINGS BHD

Jan 9, 2020 10:29 PM | Report Abuse

3 sen coming soon


Stock: [NETX]: NETX HOLDINGS BHD

Jan 7, 2020 10:04 AM | Report Abuse

Some guys can be so slow when they see fortune sleeping or lying stagnant before them.

Then they spring into frenzied action when fortune starts running & flying away from them.

Becos they just do not have the clarity of vision to see that what is in front of their very eyes is actually golden fortune, but dressed only in humble, plain, homely garb.


Stock: [NETX]: NETX HOLDINGS BHD

Jan 7, 2020 9:51 AM | Report Abuse

Go NetX Go

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I am always amazed when a investor suddenly got interested in a stock because its price has risen recently.


Amazing indeed!

When you have this philosophy, you love the market more when the prices drop further.

This will be unlike those wired the other way.

.... and always for the long term (5 years and above).

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Posted by Fabien "The Efficient Capital Allocater" > Jun 16, 2020 8:10 PM | Report Abuse

3iii

don't get me wrong, i am not prohibited by high PE from investing in any wonderful companies

what i'm trying to say is given the exceptional profit growth in the next 1-2 years, with mean reversion in mind, don't you think the forward PE as implied by current price is sustainable vis a vis its historical PE valuation.

i paid PE 38x to own Disney shares as i believe the future runway is still very long, i'm not too sure about TopGlove

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Your point is well taken. You are right from your own perspective. Everyone has to manage risk.

Let me argue the case of the major shareholder. Tan Sri Lim holds a lot of shares in Topglove. Will he be selling his shares today? Nothing to prevent him from trading his own shares and he has done so in the past too. However, a big portion of his share will be permanently in his company. Why? In the long run, perhaps, a very long time, his company will be bigger and worth more then than today.

OTOH for you and many others, the perspective will be different. Your investment time horizon and your risk tolerance maybe different. Therefore, your action likewise.

Both Tan Sri (the major shareholder who is effectively buy and hold for the long term) and you are right. No one is more right than another, just do what you think is comfortable and safe for your own investing.

OTOH, everytime I have sold TG in the past, because it was overpriced, it has bounced back higher. Often I have to buy back at higher prices to ride up the stock again.

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GoldenHarvest1 naysaying gang is nothing but a bunch of sore arse sour grape non-stop bittching whining griping groaning complainers who already miss the first round NetX boat at 1 sen
18/06/2020 8:45 AM

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If only what you said is true.

Comfort yourself.

Sorry to express so. A bit of evil thought crept into this post. Sometimes, you get entertained more here than Netflix. Ha ha :-)

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sammj101286 sammj previous post:-

EMPLOYEES BOUGHT 2 SEN NETX
BECAUSE THEY KNOW..
I BOUGHT NETX TO FOLLOW THE INSIDERS

MY NETX NOT FOR SALE AT THIS PRICE

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I commented on this post but shan't repeat this here.

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Posted by stncws > Dec 26, 2019 6:16 PM | Report Abuse

invicible...u wont lose...

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Of course, even the devil has some followers too.

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Posted by calvintaneng > Dec 26, 2019 4:21 PM | Report Abuse

Nfcp bull run stock is Netx

Don't miss this once a lifetime bull run in digital stocks

Get on board now

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The devil comes back to haunt

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Posted by calvintaneng > Dec 26, 2019 11:43 AM | Report Abuse

Pump scomies?

Still holding and buying more and want to see Scomies, at 30 sen

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today scomi is 13 sen.

a fool and his money soon go separate ways.