work hard in you career, climb up the ladder and get your employer to reward you with car allowance, not forking out your hard earned money on continental cars! earned it through your career advancement

if MGO does happen, it can't be at this price. it's absurd.

you don't even need to do a proper Sum Of Parts on Insas. It's stake in Inari alone already worth double of Insas market cap.

Unbelievably undervalued.

It's ok. I have plenty of patience.

The rest, apart from insas, pays good dividend yield, while i'm waiting for market re-rating. i get paid while waiting.



Posted by stockraider > Jul 2, 2019 4:21 PM | Report Abuse

The key is catalyst....the missing in gradient of your pick loh...!!

Posted by Fabien "The Efficient Capital Allocater" > Jul 2, 2019 4:05 PM | Report Abuse

For assets play, Insas, Oriental, OSK, TA, Affin all selling dirt cheap. Take your pick.

Icon, did u take a look at WCE? Worth a look, high upside potential relative to downside, imo.

For assets play, Insas, Oriental, OSK, TA, Affin all selling dirt cheap. Take your pick.

HLI can earn ROE of above 25%. how many investors can do that? with the excess cash to you, can you make use of it and beat the 25% return?

i believe HLI is doing good actually. despite the massive cash piles, the management is still able to earn ROE above 20% consistently. they know what they are doing. moreoever, dividends have been increasing yearly. they have a strategy in place.

in contrast, Oriental ROE is below 10%, the cash is sitting there idling, the management is over conservative. Oriental should distribute those excess cash to the shareholders.

"Somehow I saw the potential in Yamaha bikes when many do not."

@kywoo, mind sharing your research and insights on the prospect of Yamaha bikes?

i also hold both HLIND and Oriental

hence, investing requires a lot of patience. as long as the fundamentals are good, even maintaining at 50sen dividend you will still get 4.5% yield better than FD.

i remember investing in Padini. similarly strong fundamental company, trading at low digit PE to 10x. been holding for few years while enjoying 5-6% dividend yield. after 2 years plus of holding, market sentiment towards Padini changed resulting in higher valuation multiple. Padini was re-rated higher and higher, even to 20x, if i'm not mistaken, and became one of top investment success.

well, Calvin has the last laugh..haha


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23/04/2019 10:27 PM

its growing owner earnings, i.e. free cashflows, itself is a catalyst to better valuation multiple hence its market valuation

we all know PE 10x is unreasonable for such company (net cash, growing earnings, growing FCF, good dividend yield, growing dividends, high ROE, high ROIC). ex cash PE ratio < 10x.

what is lacking is the "demand", perhaps due to its small public float and no analyst coverage.

Quoted from Seth Klarman...never blindly to be contrarian, betting whatever is out of favor to be restored. often, investments are disfavored for good reason..

investors must consider the possibility that recovery may not occur. it is also important to gauge the psychology of other investors. how far along is the curren trend? how much further it may go? what are the driving forces?

being extremely early is tantamount to being wrong. conclusion, contrarian need to understand the psychology of other investors.

similar to other property counters. earnings are contracting but sales remain above target. current price is at massive discount, decent yield

@TheContrarian why not consider MahSing?

CIMB target price is 3.40

More runway to go.

Main/key takeaway from Seth Klarman's annual letter to the investors of his hedge fund, Baupost: to minimize the duration of portfolio holdings.

Klarman believes it is vital to invest in short-duration equity opportunities, where there is a catalyst on the horizon to unlock value.

“We believe another key element in portfolio management is curtailing the duration (the weighted average life) of one’s portfolio through exposure to investments with catalysts for the realization of underlying value. Catalytic events shift the outcome of investments from a reliance on future market multiples and macroeconomic developments (which are not at all under your control) to a dependence on your assessment of the outcomes, probabilities, and implications of announced or anticipated corporate events, including mergers and acquisitions, bond maturities, debt restructurings, bankruptcies, major corporate asset sales, spinoffs, and tender offers. No strategy can avoid all risk of loss. But we believe our approach should increase the likelihood of achieving sustainable gains with limited downside risk over the long- run. To put it differently, a portfolio of near infinite duration (such as an all equity portfolio without catalysts) can trade just about anywhere. With such exposures, if stock prices plummet, the odds go up that an investor will feel pressure to do the wrong thing and sell into market weakness. A limited duration portfolio, both because of the hopefully truncated downside in a bad market as well as the beneficial cash inflows (buying power) that catalysts usually generate, is hugely advantageous in navigating through turmoil.”

i prefer this way, slowly but surely. will entitled for 8.5sen end of this month.

Using Ben Graham PE method. conservatively, assuming HLIND earnings to grow in line with the economy, sustainable rate of 3-4% annually, implied PER should be at least 15x. with EPS at least RM1, do the math...

Vietnam's economy is growing at a fast pace, 6-7% annual growth..very soon its economy will overtake Singapore.

Even maintaining current market share, HLIND will still able to grow its sales (in absolute terms) in line with the growing economy.

their dividend payout has been increasing anyway. ROE is very high so management is doing the right thing well.

RainT if HLIND can pay dividend as generous as AIRASIA , how good

HLIND have huge cash pile
06/06/2019 12:54 PM

inching towards new high

tong herr has been through even worse phase before, back in 2015. they have turnaround subsequently. but recent quarters have been impacted badly by the slowing economy. doubt they will reach 5 figure quarterly profit anytime soon.

maybe 3iii has some perspective to share?

well, market pyschology swings all the time. will see...

for PE 20x, i won't touch for now. at that valuation, positive growth already priced in. if earnings disappoint again, market will bring down its valuation.

valuation still at 20x PE. it is justified given its not so promising outlook?

it's a good company. though i prefer to have a wider margin of safety before having some positions.

its pointless to position in this stock based on expectations of future petrochemical prices

looking at the volume, there aren't much. datuk is nimbling as much shares as he could.

well, at current price, it is dirt cheap relative to its fundamentals. i see no reason why it drops. remaining shareholders are of "strong hands", they are in for the VALUE.

this company generates healthy ROE (>20%) and ROIC (>60%), creating value for the shareholders. i will hold tightly to my shares.

5 consecutive quarters drop. no light at the end of tunnel yet.

TheContrarian Because MGO failed, the share price can't go above 66 sen until the one year expire.
26/04/2019 11:06 PM


Contrarian, when will the one year period expires? It's quietly inch up to 68sen now.

Don't mislead people. Maybank has always been declaring dividends in Q2 and Q4.

a little more than 2 weeks time we will entitled for 35sen dividend

probably it will be good with some publicity. if any gentleman analyst care to initiate coverage, this company will explode... HLIND deserves a better valuation multiple

getting ready to employ capital if it drops to 8

net cash is 30% of market cap

RainT the cash balance since from 1 year ago have been growing 50% to RM1 billion now

this is impressive
29/05/2019 8:26 AM

decent yield of 3.7%

ok la, not bad. dividend grew by 6% more than previous year growth (4%).

slowly but surely. just look at its cash flows...

one weak quarter results and you guys panic? first time investing ar..

don't worry about the share price. have some patience.

you get decent yield anyway.

Own both la, save the headache. Which i am, skin in the game....

Once i see PE 10 times, i stop reading.

From his perspective/intention, his analysis is not wrong.

HLG target price 4.22, not far from mine.

Management guided a lower revenue for the semiconductor segment. Coupled with the headline news "trade war'. Selling most likely due to heightened risk aversion.